Thanks for the pointer. I just ordered and built my pilot watch with a blue dial and Seagull movement. But you do have to be careful with the Miuksi shop. They mix up movements with the second hand at 6 with a dial with the seconds at 9. Some casings don't match the dial. You have to check a few measurements. Well, I got nearly everything right, except the second hand that was too long for the dial. I used the hand that came with the movement. Still 130.- Euro including tools.
People will pay more for a hand holding experience. It’s not the restaurant analogy, it’s the food box analogy. You can buy produce and make a meal cheaper than Factor or those other companies but if you are nervous about it or don’t care, getting the hand holding experience is worth it. It also helps people who want to gift something without having to become an expert themselves. I am interested to make a hobby of this so I have taken time to learn what tools I need and what parts I need. Buying from a US website (not being entirely convinced about buying directly from China without protection) my tools and parts are not much less than DWC who are a company who offers a service and makes a profit.
You are partially correct, but those tool kits on Amazon don’t have many of the tools to assemble the watch. They usually contain only enough tools to install/adjust straps and change batteries, not much more. Tools for removing and installing hands, loup, blower, pad, etc. are not included. I agree the watch only kits are far more expensive then they should be but the price with the pro tool kit is a much better deal. Generally, you’d buy only once and take the course along the way. Then you go to other sources for DIY parts.
Thats the vibe I get too, I dont get nearly that many comments on other videos positive or negative, and everyone comes out to comment on this one. Its odd.
I have 3 DIY Watch club pieces and I agree you can do it cheaper. But, I still love my 3 pieces. Now I build watches through ali express like you but when diy drops something I like ill buy it also
Just found your videos on this subject after thinking that DIY watch club might be overpriced knowing that most companies are usually get their supplies from China (especially for watches). So thank you for these details, I'll start making watches without overspending now xD.
Ok, not gonna lie, I was going to comment on your other video with an analogy about how DIY watch club is like going to a restaurant vs buying the ingredients yourself, but....damn, DIY watch club is a rip-off.
you are not adding the cost or running a business selling a product to consumers. those companies selling parts buy them from China in bulk and sell them to you that's it; you have a question about putting the thing together, good luck. The DIY CLUB had to spend money and hire people to do customer service, answer questions, do marketing, make those tutorial videos, source and package everything for you, make the packaging, boxes, etc, etc , all that cost money! you can't possibly compare some store in China selling individual parts to a company selling kits with customer service, they are completely different types of businesses. Are their prices a bit high? sure, but if some people prefer the convenience of buying the complete kits from them then they are doing something right. Like someone in the comments said, you can buy the ingredients and cook a nice dinner for $50 or go to a fancy restaurant and get charged four times that for less quality ingredients and nobody is calling them a scam, its just not the same thing...
Sure, except they are literally the same company as the ones selling the parts and just rebranding them to charge more. It’s just a Chinese parts kit coming from the same literal factories. This isn’t some hip American company buying the parts and paying import taxes and putting a nice package together, it’s the same people just upcharging you. Be less blind.
Ahah you are using their name to make your publicity? And your say that they are doing bad things? Kind of sad. You are not doing anything you. And what you are showing looks really poor quality
Thanks for the pointer. I just ordered and built my pilot watch with a blue dial and Seagull movement. But you do have to be careful with the Miuksi shop. They mix up movements with the second hand at 6 with a dial with the seconds at 9. Some casings don't match the dial. You have to check a few measurements. Well, I got nearly everything right, except the second hand that was too long for the dial. I used the hand that came with the movement. Still 130.- Euro including tools.
Seagul movements are dope 👌🏻
@@Jsjdudjendudh After all, mine worked for two months. Now it's scrap metal.
@@ingraban98 bummer, which movement? I've mostly used ST19 from seagul. Kind of pricey tho, like $100 each
@@Jsjdudjendudh ST3600, the very basic one.
The tool kit argument you made is what did it for me 👍
Glad to have changed at least one mind
So your point is that blablabla it too expensive?
Thanks for the intro to Miksui….just who I have been looking for….
Great video ! however is it the real Seiko movement on Ali express ?
Yes
Yes
People will pay more for a hand holding experience. It’s not the restaurant analogy, it’s the food box analogy. You can buy produce and make a meal cheaper than Factor or those other companies but if you are nervous about it or don’t care, getting the hand holding experience is worth it.
It also helps people who want to gift something without having to become an expert themselves.
I am interested to make a hobby of this so I have taken time to learn what tools I need and what parts I need. Buying from a US website (not being entirely convinced about buying directly from China without protection) my tools and parts are not much less than DWC who are a company who offers a service and makes a profit.
You are partially correct, but those tool kits on Amazon don’t have many of the tools to assemble the watch. They usually contain only enough tools to install/adjust straps and change batteries, not much more. Tools for removing and installing hands, loup, blower, pad, etc. are not included. I agree the watch only kits are far more expensive then they should be but the price with the pro tool kit is a much better deal. Generally, you’d buy only once and take the course along the way. Then you go to other sources for DIY parts.
There are plenty on Amazon that come with far more than DIY give you and for way cheaper
I decided to buy a seiko 5 on sale from Amazon to mod instead of a diy kit. Also bought tools from Amazon.
You made a good choice lol
I'm totally on your side! And I think also that most unhappy with what you say are actually paid to say so.
Thats the vibe I get too, I dont get nearly that many comments on other videos positive or negative, and everyone comes out to comment on this one. Its odd.
We're not actually making a watch. We're assembling them.
Yup
I have 3 DIY Watch club pieces and I agree you can do it cheaper. But, I still love my 3 pieces. Now I build watches through ali express like you but when diy drops something I like ill buy it also
Phenomenal video 👏
Thanks! Repeatedly see this on my instagram and glad I found your video.
I’m looking out for y’all!
Just found your videos on this subject after thinking that DIY watch club might be overpriced knowing that most companies are usually get their supplies from China (especially for watches). So thank you for these details, I'll start making watches without overspending now xD.
That’s my goal!
Ok, not gonna lie, I was going to comment on your other video with an analogy about how DIY watch club is like going to a restaurant vs buying the ingredients yourself, but....damn, DIY watch club is a rip-off.
Yo thats whats up, I was definetly thinking of my next bday present.
you are not adding the cost or running a business selling a product to consumers. those companies selling parts buy them from China in bulk and sell them to you that's it; you have a question about putting the thing together, good luck. The DIY CLUB had to spend money and hire people to do customer service, answer questions, do marketing, make those tutorial videos, source and package everything for you, make the packaging, boxes, etc, etc , all that cost money! you can't possibly compare some store in China selling individual parts to a company selling kits with customer service, they are completely different types of businesses. Are their prices a bit high? sure, but if some people prefer the convenience of buying the complete kits from them then they are doing something right. Like someone in the comments said, you can buy the ingredients and cook a nice dinner for $50 or go to a fancy restaurant and get charged four times that for less quality ingredients and nobody is calling them a scam, its just not the same thing...
Sure, except they are literally the same company as the ones selling the parts and just rebranding them to charge more. It’s just a Chinese parts kit coming from the same literal factories. This isn’t some hip American company buying the parts and paying import taxes and putting a nice package together, it’s the same people just upcharging you. Be less blind.
It's for novices who dont know, there is still plenty of people waiting to be invoiced
You are correct.
You can lead a horse to water 😂😂😂
DWC=COOKED 🤣🤣🤣
Ahah you are using their name to make your publicity? And your say that they are doing bad things? Kind of sad. You are not doing anything
Ahah you are using their name to make your publicity? And your say that they are doing bad things? Kind of sad. You are not doing anything you. And what you are showing looks really poor quality
You commented 3 times and couldn’t get one real point across.
@@NotAnotherWatchChannel exactly what you are doing 😘
Yes they are paid.... its sad
Don’t like them? Don’t buy from them. See how simple it is?
Not a matter of not liking them, I’m stopping people from getting scammed by these people.