broncos guru, great video, i just saw a bonehead clip on NBC news....2 carnival ships grazing each other in Mexico......don’t those guys know how to drive in reverse......?? The one ship ended up having some deck lounge chairs and glass on their bow!!
Thanks for the #1 I'm going to continue working on it to prove the reliability aspect and show that the stock LU is fine to all the people saying 'SpOrTmAsTeR'
broncos guru hay i thist wont 2 say your video rocks about out board motors ;my nommer 1 motor is murcury my nommer 2 motor i like is suzuki and my nommer 3 motor is yamaha i hope you like my msg keep on makeing video you did grate
YA MEAN Suzuki's version of a mechanical nightmare, that even yamaha tried and dropped? THAT ONE? HAHAHA You're wrong. there is NO best. They all SUCK, it's just to what degree do they SUCK? That's a video. But ya better have the expertise and time on the water to back it all up. But, I know the title and video was just 💲''click bait'💲'. So apology accepted...sort of.
All I can say is, I've owned a few brands but the 2011 big block Suzuki DF150 I have now that's approaching 1000 hrs with essentially zero repairs has been by far the most reliable and strongest engine for its size I've ever had. A real beast.
Mike Castellon no sir, I am freelance these days and no longer do engine repairs except for my personal stuff! And in case I misinterpreted you, I do feel they all build a pretty good engine these days. Although I prefer the old carbureted 2strokes for the power and simplicity.
4200 on mine. The last one only lasted 3300 because it was abused to hell and back. The abuse that puppy took while never leaving us stranded sold me. She was still running with cylinders at like 20-40 psi.
Yeah I also got a 2007 150 Yamaha on my lobster boat. No joke, I have 20,000 hours on it and it still works great. The cowling May have no paint left but aside from parts replacement that you would expect to one of that age (EFI injector etc) it’s been great. It still starts up in the winter great. I recently was out lobstering in -5 degree Fahrenheit and the motor hadn’t started for two day’s, which is rare since i lobster 6 days a week. While you could certainly tell that it was cold (motor took about 10 seconds to start and didn’t piss water for about 5 min because the indicator stream was plugged) it started up. My father has a 2014 mercury 250 sea pro on his boat and his wouldn’t start and he was unable to go out.
For what it’s worth I have a 1990 Yamaha 200 two stroke and have no clue what the hours are but man that thing won’t die. I’ve had to replace the shift shaft and the steering bracket which was a pain in the ass. But by far the most reliable motor I’ve ever had.
I agree with Doug. Having an inboard myself I find it to be a huge waste of boat space. I need to replace my starter and master starter solenoid but can’t do it due to space issues ... it hangs underneath the engine down in the bilge and I can’t find the space to take it off and replace it
I still love the sound of a supercharged BBC with captain's call. The new outboards are impressive. Hydraulic jack plates allow to dial your boat, engine combination perfectly. I also think that vanity plays the multi outboard trend. HP and number of engines are on full display.
I got an 80's model 70 hp Evinrude that sat up for 14 years. Fresh gas, and bam....Runs like a Howard Miller clock. I just bought a 2020 Yamaha 15 for my puddle jumper, I like it but those 4 stroke engines leave alot to be desired for, they just don't have the punch a two stroke does. Lastly, if anyone is interested in learning how to work on an outboard, get a Mercury. I've had a couple of those over the years and they broke down every season. Next time you're at a Marina, if you can see in the shop, that's what you will see, those black engines. Hardly any grey or white.
We use Evinrude 200 HO and 250s on 15 of our 17 RHIBs and I can attest to their reliability. But they do not like to idle for any prolonged period of time and unfortunately, the nature of our work requires us to sit on station for several hours at a time. Every once in a while we have to take them out and open them up to burn out the built up carbon. The Suzuki 250s are great engines (so dang quiet too) but they are slower than the Evinrudes by about 5 knots because they are 3 bladed props versus 4 on the Evins. Plus the throttle setup doesn’t allow us to sync the motors and use one throttle to control both engines which kinda sucks at high speeds.
I've had all (minus 7s) Suzuki is a distant #1 for mass production reliability. Yamaha to follow even though they have been terrible about taking care of their customers offering repairs for significant design flaws.
I’m in the business and have been for 20 years and have many dealers that sell boats. So when it came to buying a new fishing boat I heard a lot of opinions. A few dealers insisted on Evinrude but that’s all they sold of course. This is how the list ended up. Note a big thing for me is reliability 1)Yamaha 2) Honda 3) Suzuki 4) Mercury 5) Evinrude. This list is what my big dealers all agreed on that sold most all these brands. I ended up putting a 90 tiller Yamaha sho on an alumacraft 185.
It shouldn’t be surprising, if u replaced Mercury with Harley your list would be the same for motorcycles too (for the most part). The Japanese just have better quality control and Yamaha and Honda are huge companies that can tap the very best engineers from other divisions when they need to.
If i have a choice I would use yamaha all day. I would have put one on my current boat but couldn't swing it finacially at the time. Instead I ended up with a mercury branded tohatsu. Its an alright motor once i solved all it's issues...leaked gas into the sump through a bad lp fuel pump and leaked oil from the block due to lack of thread sealant on the oil pressure sensor and top oil gallery plug..left an oil slick everywhere i went.. This motor is my 1st four stroke and it really made me miss my 2 stroke yamaha.
I just mean that it’s probably literally in close to reverse order! Reliability is what matters to me. But that’s just me. Still “liked” the video though lol. Don’t stop making them man
@jimmy hoffa To each their own I guess. As an outboard mechanic and fisherman I prefer mercury hands down. With more modern tech coming out and becoming common like all the new EFI motors they're a lot more comparable. I wouldn't personally trust a carburetored Yamaha outboard though
Yep my little fishing boat passed onto me from my dad has a Johnson two stroke I’m forty we bought the boat when I was eight and if was fifteen years old then it fires up every spring had spark plugs and that’s it
@@melrose9252 but absolutely! Despite knowing that they're the exact same engine under the cowl 😄 I guess that's marketing psychology at its best. Though in my case it's the old "my Daddy had Johnson's, so it's the best" thing... Like Yamaha guys think it's better than Tohatsu. But after everything is said and done, I really do appreciate them, mostly for their simplicity. Putting a 2003 model 50hp back together in the moment, which will replace my 60 Yamaha
I remember my '79 big block evinrude 100s, those things rocked. Some heating issues later down the line, ended up burying it in 2004 for a busted axis.
Maybe I'm just biased but I spent 10 years in Alaska and I must say I trust Honda hands down even now that I have moved back to Oregon and own a 24ft reinell cabin boat. I'm getting ready to rip out the I/O and put a 250hp Honda on it there light but got the horse power and there quiet that I like.
@@gregmsnow you must aint never had a Suzuki. Ive got them both. And Yamahas are pretty reliable but they vibrate twice as much as Suzuki. And there half as strong as Suzuki. Ive never had no touble out of my Suzuki. But i had to buy a power pack for my Yamaha not long ago.
joshua williams Yamaha is smoother and what do you mean half as strong? Yamaha would kick a Suzuki’s but any day, there are more problems with Suzuki then any other engine and Yamaha has the least amount of problems. That’s why when your on the water you see most with a Yamaha because of the reliability and because there most powerful.
joshua williams Suzuki is a little bit smoother and efficient but they are weak as heck,drag raced one against a Yamaha and the Yamaha made the Suzuki look like a wimp.
I got one of the first New Gen. Evinrude outboards, I was able to cut the HP /size in half, my boat goes 5 mph faster than my older motor, the response of this outboard to this very day, is unbelievable. Uses less fuel than previous engine. So I went from 300 HP, to 150 HP, and my boat goes faster, I have greater capacity, and range. Once this Evinrude dies, I will go to an inboard engine, as outboards cost way more than they are worth.
Not only R U the best TH-cam announcer I’ve ever heard,you also rank right up there with the top 5 stand-up comedians as well.Lol,keep the quick whit & perfectly placed sarcasm as well.Kudos to my brotha from anotha mutha with attitude .......
The #1 criteria for me is reliability and #2 is routine maintenance cost. Everything else is subservient. Nearly all of them are quite capable of excellent performance. It's not like "go forward, turn sometimes" is all that complicated. Making an outboard that is reliable IS.
Great video. My fave is Johnson I know they ate gone but I still run a 1989 90hp 2stroke on my 19 foot Mako. The little outboard i used on the lake when I was a kid was a Johnson 5.5 HP or he Evenrude 6HP. Those were late 50's motors in the mid 80's. As A teen my buddy had a Johnson 65HP Stinger on his Boston Whaler. These were are great motors so sad to see these brands go.
I once mounted 3 Honda BF15s on an 18 foot aluminum Gregor Sea Hawk in 1987 years before their first BF45 3 cylinder :-) Also, American Honda's Marine division built a turbo BF90 in 1996 for testing.
Although this is pretty far off for new motors older motors are way off.Mercury and evinrude are equal for older ones until you get to high hours in which like my grandfathers 1980 60hp merc has melted THROUGH a cylinder and needs a rebuild while my uncle's 70hp evinrude motor from 1976 with more hours still works like new. If buying an older outboard OMC is the way to go
all i do is work on these and i wholeheartedly agree! as long as it's taken care of properly, they last literally thousands of hours. sadly, too many dont have a clue how to read an owners manual about maintenance.
I have a 17’ montauk with a 115 Yami on it. It came new with a 90 Mercury, and before it even left the shop I had them tear that POS off and put a Yami on. Mercury has the worst reliability imo, Yamahas warranty is a lot better, their parts are a lot better, and they just LOOK a lot better.
Personally I've had experience with Mercury, and Evinrude. My latest boat has a older Suzuki 2 stroke on the back of it. It was overhauled a few years ago, and should give me years of service. If I were to repower with a newer motor I'd probably go with Suzuki. Their 60hp 4 stroke is the lightest in it's class.
Totally agree. Evinrude was very popular for its holeshot. Lower laguna madre. Shallow. But lately unreliable. Most guys moved on from etecs and yamaha to suzuki. Priced right super reliable and fuel efficient.
For me, I liked the listing as it introduced me to some history I did not know - Evinrude - and motors I didn't know existed - the 7 thing. The number one doesn't count as it doesn't exist really.
When you watch the next Bass tournament, tell me what you see on the back of those bass boats. Most all the pros use Yamaha or Mercury’s. There’s a reason why they use them... reliability, performance and fuel efficient. There’s a outboard company on your list that’s not here anymore. BIG fish always eat little fish!
Tyrsa Fray sorry Tyrsa that you feel obligated to defend the POS engine you must have on your boat. Evinrude is garbage. I have a 300hp Yamaha four stroke on mine. Bulletproof. If I had an Evinrude it would kill my resale value for sure.
I’ve had Evinrude’s for years with zero problems and nothing but good experience with them and their reliability. You may be right on resales but I don’t buy them to sell. I simply use them. Cheers!
I'm a boat mechanic in Sweden. Now I'm about to translate an untranslatable joke. Of course I like Evinrude. That doesn't keep me from using a nickname for it. 🤪 The nickname is "Evig Rodd". The g is silent. "Evig" means eternal and "rodd" means rowing. It's approximately pronounced [evirod]. Eternal rowing. 😂
I bought a 60hp 4 years ago. I couldn’t be happier. I’m in harsh conditions duck hunting in very cold weather as well as pulling my grandkids on a tube and just a ton of fishing and boating around. Just turn the key at any time and it fires up immediately. No pumping the ball etc. Amazing on fuel as well, used to burn around 12 tanks a season, I’m down to 7, so nearly half the fuel. Other motor was a hard to start 2000 Merc 50hp. It’s a real shame Evenrude couldn’t keep the doors open.
I had 90hpmerc 2 stroke.. Those engines are unbelievably durable. I tried for years too blow that thing up but I failed and I underestimated mercury. I did things to that engine that should never be done to an outboard! It just kept going.. even after I sold it
There's a reason why Mercury is the OEM motor of choice for most manufacturers. It's the best. I can't disagree with this list more. Every boat I've ever owned has had a Mercury and they've never let me down. It's true some of the early OptiMax motors had issues but everything since has been rock solid.
The reason there are so many OEM Mercurys is because they give boat builders deep discounts on them, and it's parent company Brunswick owns many boat brands such as Sea Ray, Bayliner, Crestliner, Harris Boats, and Boston Whaler.
Nice cop out video. Not only with the number one pick, but placing others with what you saw at a Florida boat show. Then again watching a video on outboards from a Yamaha jetboat owner not surprised.
I agree 100% we are oyster growers and use every brand outboards, lower units were a huge issue on Hondas, BRP are junk and expensive to fix, Mercs are now garbage and Yamahas has used us well but the Suzuki has held up the best for everyone here. This guy obviously has no clue about outboards.
wasup fool Yamaha is still the number one in our it’s for power and reliability and they’ve ranked number one forever, it’s the most bought outboard, but I agree this guy knows nothing about outboards
Your video and rankings are spot on except for the turbo Honda All the Yamaha guys got butt hurt but when they watch the Rude walk right past them with no oil changes and minimal tuning and maintenance they get all jealous because they all want a bigger Johnson
Honda on my pontoon and Merc on my bass boat. No problems out of either of them. Both are quiet 4 cyl, 4 stroke outboards. Had an Evinrude 85hp on a bass boat and ran the stew out of it for over 25 years including fresh and salt water, fishing, pulling skiers, etc. Never had any problems with it either.
I don't have 7 marine money either so my real number one for me was probably evinrude with Yamaha a close second since number one on the list is a unicorn.
That’s as close to my list as possible. I live in the North and not one fly-in fishing operator will run the black anchor ...Yamaha , Honda and Suzuki can take incredible abuse .
Johnson last for over 20 years my last Johnson lasted for over 30 years my Johnson cranks right up from cold start on the first time plus it’s so easy to work on a Johnson outboard motor the only other motor I’d have besides this motor would have to be a evinrude only if I couldn’t get a hold of another Johnson
This dude definitely doesn't have much sea time under his belt. Etecs was the worst outboard to offshore maritime. Suzuki is the most reliable speaking as to 300hp class,then yamaha,then mercury and the rest follows. Sevens are for rich people,so let's not entertain them. I could go on and on....
My Suzuki has been a super reliable beast. ONLY issue to date has been neutral safety switches which we replaced both. Approaching 1000 hrs on our 2011 DF150
Boating in general is for rich people, anymore. I miss the 90's and early 2000's. I was just a kid then, but we had it made with a 175hp 15 foot 79 glastron. Bitch would do 70 on the water.
@@JacksonStewart-yr2rg I work at very busy boat yard and I see what real fisherman are using 70+ hours a week, and which ones spend more time in the shop. Haha
ChrisCo my dad bought a 2019 Yamaha 15 hp and lost his trailer going down the road and the motor busted the transom and flipped down the ditch and it cracked the tiller handle but didn’t even scratch anything else the battery cables ripped the terminals out of the battery but a quick weld and new battery she’s been fine ever since. But I have a 20 hp tohatsu and it’s been a trooper too.
My 1988 evinrude 70hp 2 stroke ran like a beast until I sank it last year and it seized solid. 30 years of running, never rebuilt. They know 2 strokes. I also just bought a 25 mariner/Yamaha, with restrictions removed it's running 30hp, 25 years old, still runs sweeeeewt.
Suzuki is an excellent outboard and always has been. Bought a new 75hp in 96. Got rid of it in 2015. Only thing ever replaced was plugs and water pump. Yamaha is hands down the best you can get and is #1. Mercury is a good motor. But they overcomplicate the design. Maintenance and parts cost a lot more as well.
and my 18hp 2001 tohatsu has to be the quietest, smoothest and by FAR most powerful 18 ever made. got it for $150 on craigslist. needed a coil and a carb clean and water pump. $280 all in haha!
A Shore yeah no shit Tohatsu is coming up I haven't heard anything bad about them you know if made in Japan it has to be good I bought a brand new merc in 1984 35 hp and it blew up twice my dad grew me up on Evinrude he bought a brand new Evinrude 9.9 long shaft for his big boat and running the drainage canal with my school buddy sank that motor twice and kept running should have stuck with them but it cost more than mercury at that time haven't gone back since JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🛥🌴⛱😃😊🙏🏻🙏🏻
So, the best outboard is the worst outboard modified by some kids, and you can’t buy it on the market.. hmmm. Bigger is not better, it’s just a different size, like a drill bit.
they tossed in a 10 year warranty on my evinrude etec 30 as a promo..been a fantastic motor..tons of power for my 14' princecraft aluminum..quiet and good gas mileage..i'm very happy
This has to be a troll video. Yamaha is the best on reliability and they have great motors on performance as well, and thats all that really matters. I think this was more of a features and cool factor list rather than comparing numbers and reliability.
The captains of these shrimpin boats around here tow 18 ft Carolina Skiffs behind their shrimp boats to run the nets with. each of them are outfitted with 90 HP Yamahas. They're all sitting on well over 2,000 hours. I've got a 2003 15 HP Mercury on my RiverCraft with over 950 hours. If you take care of these things they will last for a long time.
I HAVE OWNED 5 NEW RANGERS IN 5 YEARS TRIED ALL DIFFERENT OUTBOARDS HANDS DOWN BEST WAS THE EVINRUDE E-TEC. IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD ONE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
"Evinrude was never reliable." Obviously, you have zero knowledge of the history of outboard motors and Evinrude. In the 1940's through 1970's - they were the most reliable motor on the market followed closely by Mercury when Carl Kiekhaefer owned the company.
@@buckhorncortez Sorry I wasn't alive during the 1940s and I doubt you were either. Not trying to bash them but if they made good solid reliable engines then maybe they'd still be around.
Judging by all the dislikes on this video you have to remember what one person looks for in a outboard is going to be different from the next person. One person might just look at reliability and another might be looking for power, while others want a little of both... see what i'm getting at? Bronco even said in the beginning that this is his list and will not get technical at all. lol, I didn't agree with this list either but still gave it a thumbs up!
Mercury beating out Honda you are too funny. Yamaha ranking 4th Evinrude 3rd really. I'm so glad you are not my mechanic nor salesman. Where do you get your info
I do apologize I meant to say Suzuki's first dual prop engine I do realize there are several other older outboard dual props.
broncos guru, great video, i just saw a bonehead clip on NBC news....2 carnival ships grazing each other in Mexico......don’t those guys know how to drive in reverse......?? The one ship ended up having some deck lounge chairs and glass on their bow!!
@@scotwoodz3787 LOL nice catch Scot Woodz I was just looking at it.
Thanks for the #1 I'm going to continue working on it to prove the reliability aspect and show that the stock LU is fine to all the people saying 'SpOrTmAsTeR'
broncos guru hay i thist wont 2 say your video rocks about out board motors ;my nommer 1 motor is murcury my nommer 2 motor i like is suzuki and my nommer 3 motor is yamaha i hope you like my msg keep on makeing video you did grate
YA MEAN Suzuki's version of a mechanical nightmare, that even yamaha tried and dropped? THAT ONE? HAHAHA You're wrong. there is NO best. They all SUCK, it's just to what degree do they SUCK? That's a video. But ya better have the expertise and time on the water to back it all up. But, I know the title and video was just 💲''click bait'💲'. So apology accepted...sort of.
The best outboard is the one that gets you back to shore😃
Carolina Tar Heel , true
Yep. You could have the lightest and most powerful outboard, but still be made terribly.
Rip evirude
The best outboard is your friends outboard.
That’s what I was thinking
All I can say is, I've owned a few brands but the 2011 big block Suzuki DF150 I have now that's approaching 1000 hrs with essentially zero repairs has been by far the most reliable and strongest engine for its size I've ever had. A real beast.
At 62, I'm still enthralled with those old monstrous outboards of Johnson & Evinrude. Only Mercury was the sleek one.
Someone needs to steal your drain plug for making this list😂😂
😂👆🏻
🤣 right about that. This guy doesn't have a clue
LOL
ya got that straight....this dude ain't no GURU, he's a click bait king, of BS.
@@CaptDavesSportfishing Dude has a jet boat talking about the top outboards
Sad about Evinrude :(
Yeah
Im still sad about the cr500 going away evinrude going away was like seeing the last of the bad ass 2 stroke era go away
After 20 plus years in the industry, I will say that all the manufacturers are producing good reliable engines!
This is the truth you can't really go wrong with any of them anymore
Except for Evinrude...…. garbage
You have to say that
Mike Castellon no sir, I am freelance these days and no longer do engine repairs except for my personal stuff!
And in case I misinterpreted you, I do feel they all build a pretty good engine these days. Although I prefer the old carbureted 2strokes for the power and simplicity.
Also Parsun?
My favorite outboard is the one on my boat. 👍
As long as it doesn't break down, down river.
Always surprises me to see no Gen 2 ETecs at Haulover. Shame they're gone, seemed like fabulous, cutting edge, design and innovation.
JUNK
i have 3,574 hours on my 2007 yamaha 115. best outboard ever.
Parker Rupe it will run forever if you keep it maintained
If you take a displacement that should be producing 150+ hp and only make 115 of course it will last.
4200 on mine. The last one only lasted 3300 because it was abused to hell and back. The abuse that puppy took while never leaving us stranded sold me. She was still running with cylinders at like 20-40 psi.
Yeah I also got a 2007 150 Yamaha on my lobster boat. No joke, I have 20,000 hours on it and it still works great. The cowling May have no paint left but aside from parts replacement that you would expect to one of that age (EFI injector etc) it’s been great. It still starts up in the winter great. I recently was out lobstering in -5 degree Fahrenheit and the motor hadn’t started for two day’s, which is rare since i lobster 6 days a week. While you could certainly tell that it was cold (motor took about 10 seconds to start and didn’t piss water for about 5 min because the indicator stream was plugged) it started up. My father has a 2014 mercury 250 sea pro on his boat and his wouldn’t start and he was unable to go out.
For what it’s worth I have a 1990 Yamaha 200 two stroke and have no clue what the hours are but man that thing won’t die. I’ve had to replace the shift shaft and the steering bracket which was a pain in the ass. But by far the most reliable motor I’ve ever had.
When he put mercury at number four I loaded my shot gun with malicious intent
Ummm, that's #5 dude.
I would have put it at 7.
@@magnusatheos7301 alrt sir you sound like Cd
I like my mercury still run a 1978 200 series 20hp and she gose first pull every time
@@liamfrangos3277 What?
Well it didn't come in first but I have and always will be a Mercury Man !
Imagine having a visible motor
-this message is brought to you by the inboard gang
Imagine having to lift the engine out to replace a $6 bearing...
Brought to you by the outboard gang.
I agree with Doug. Having an inboard myself I find it to be a huge waste of boat space. I need to replace my starter and master starter solenoid but can’t do it due to space issues ... it hangs underneath the engine down in the bilge and I can’t find the space to take it off and replace it
Mechanics hate you: from me and my fellow mechanics
Imagine needing to hide your engine.
I still love the sound of a supercharged BBC with captain's call. The new outboards are impressive. Hydraulic jack plates allow to dial your boat, engine combination perfectly. I also think that vanity plays the multi outboard trend. HP and number of engines are on full display.
Yamaha.. The best outboards💪
Facts
Best of the best
No Mercury Verado is better but Yamaha is close second.
@@fireballbtw887 no one is using veraods tho my guy.
envirude have more power and less weight, why yamaha is the best??
I got an 80's model 70 hp Evinrude that sat up for 14 years. Fresh gas, and bam....Runs like a Howard Miller clock. I just bought a 2020 Yamaha 15 for my puddle jumper, I like it but those 4 stroke engines leave alot to be desired for, they just don't have the punch a two stroke does. Lastly, if anyone is interested in learning how to work on an outboard, get a Mercury. I've had a couple of those over the years and they broke down every season. Next time you're at a Marina, if you can see in the shop, that's what you will see, those black engines. Hardly any grey or white.
Judging by your list, I can tell you dont work in a marina
I agree with the list, coming from a jr. Mechanic
Whats that mean. Im also a marine mechanic
@black out yes
Evinrude,Yamaha,Mercury,Suzuki,Honda.But the commercial fisherman live by Suzuki.
riverakers not where I live. All I see in the FL panhandle is Yamaha and Merc.
Suzuki is definatly number 1!
joshua williams not realy, its Yamaha or mercury
And why...
@@richboutin4044 mercury is the best but it all depends on what you trust
Gotta love #3! Favourite motors of all time!
We use Evinrude 200 HO and 250s on 15 of our 17 RHIBs and I can attest to their reliability. But they do not like to idle for any prolonged period of time and unfortunately, the nature of our work requires us to sit on station for several hours at a time. Every once in a while we have to take them out and open them up to burn out the built up carbon. The Suzuki 250s are great engines (so dang quiet too) but they are slower than the Evinrudes by about 5 knots because they are 3 bladed props versus 4 on the Evins. Plus the throttle setup doesn’t allow us to sync the motors and use one throttle to control both engines which kinda sucks at high speeds.
I've had all (minus 7s) Suzuki is a distant #1 for mass production reliability. Yamaha to follow even though they have been terrible about taking care of their customers offering repairs for significant design flaws.
I have heard the same thing about Yamaha customer service.
it like all the Yammy defenders havnt had to foot the bill yet for the corrosion issues in the '06 ish motors...
Buying Suzuki Engines is always a good decision. They are technical matured and extremly durable.
I’m in the business and have been for 20 years and have many dealers that sell boats. So when it came to buying a new fishing boat I heard a lot of opinions. A few dealers insisted on Evinrude but that’s all they sold of course. This is how the list ended up. Note a big thing for me is reliability 1)Yamaha 2) Honda 3) Suzuki 4) Mercury 5) Evinrude. This list is what my big dealers all agreed on that sold most all these brands. I ended up putting a 90 tiller Yamaha sho on an alumacraft 185.
Yamaha all day ! Reliability is unmatched.
It shouldn’t be surprising, if u replaced Mercury with Harley your list would be the same for motorcycles too (for the most part). The Japanese just have better quality control and Yamaha and Honda are huge companies that can tap the very best engineers from other divisions when they need to.
If i have a choice I would use yamaha all day. I would have put one on my current boat but couldn't swing it finacially at the time. Instead I ended up with a mercury branded tohatsu. Its an alright motor once i solved all it's issues...leaked gas into the sump through a bad lp fuel pump and leaked oil from the block due to lack of thread sealant on the oil pressure sensor and top oil gallery plug..left an oil slick everywhere i went.. This motor is my 1st four stroke and it really made me miss my 2 stroke yamaha.
This is the dumbest list I’ve ever seen lmao
I said upfront it wasn't going to be a technical list lol
I just mean that it’s probably literally in close to reverse order! Reliability is what matters to me. But that’s just me. Still “liked” the video though lol. Don’t stop making them man
@@allseriousness I figured you where just busting chops lol the list is for sure a little funky I still think the turbo honda is in it correct spot.
broncos guru oh yeah I do agree with you on that
What would your list be?
Yamaha, all day long every day. #1. The rest can follow however they want to. My $$$ goes to Yamaha.
Yamaha's are junk my dude. I work on all kinds of boats and motors and Yamaha's always run the worst
@jimmy hoffa They're not bad motors but compared to a mercury they're junk
@jimmy hoffa To each their own I guess. As an outboard mechanic and fisherman I prefer mercury hands down. With more modern tech coming out and becoming common like all the new EFI motors they're a lot more comparable. I wouldn't personally trust a carburetored Yamaha outboard though
@jimmy hoffa The work boats around here, like crabbing, oyster, etc are all diesel powered and are keel driven
@jimmy hoffa I am partially biased though because I'm a certified mercury technician and dealer 😂
I love my Johnson outboard. 45 yrs old and still starts on the 3rd pull after setting for 5 yrs.
Yep my little fishing boat passed onto me from my dad has a Johnson two stroke I’m forty we bought the boat when I was eight and if was fifteen years old then it fires up every spring had spark plugs and that’s it
Very interesting. I bought a used 23' with twin 150HP E-tecs. Hadn't started them for five months; both rolled over twice and were singing.
HiTechDiver as the should be
Sad that they aren’t producing anymore E-Tecs, at least for now
Motors die if they dont get used, they die if they get used too much
My old 99 Johnson ocean pro has far surpassed the last mercury I had this past June went from Miami to bimini Bahamas and back
Growing up I had a 85 Johnson. It was unstoppable. Great engine
I have a 2000 225 Johnson Sea Horse. Pretty darn good MPG, 0 issues and runs like a top.
Yamaha is still number 1 in reliability and the most horsepower engines over every other outboard company
Not true my guy there are merc 450
Merc just came out with a 600HP V12
Johnson, can't beat an old Johnson....
Denis Rasch I guess you think they are better than an old Evinrude?
@@melrose9252 but absolutely! Despite knowing that they're the exact same engine under the cowl 😄 I guess that's marketing psychology at its best. Though in my case it's the old "my Daddy had Johnson's, so it's the best" thing... Like Yamaha guys think it's better than Tohatsu. But after everything is said and done, I really do appreciate them, mostly for their simplicity. Putting a 2003 model 50hp back together in the moment, which will replace my 60 Yamaha
I remember my '79 big block evinrude 100s, those things rocked. Some heating issues later down the line, ended up burying it in 2004 for a busted axis.
A gt 300 is the best sounding outboard ever made
If u take that blue pill u can
Maybe I'm just biased but I spent 10 years in Alaska and I must say I trust Honda hands down even now that I have moved back to Oregon and own a 24ft reinell cabin boat. I'm getting ready to rip out the I/O and put a 250hp Honda on it there light but got the horse power and there quiet that I like.
That was 6 minutes of my life that I want back
Yamaha all day
I used to be a yamaha man. Until i tried a Suzuki. Way smoother and stronger.
joshua williams your crazy Suzuki is trash compared to Yamaha, they break down, not reliable engines
@@gregmsnow you must aint never had a Suzuki. Ive got them both. And Yamahas are pretty reliable but they vibrate twice as much as Suzuki. And there half as strong as Suzuki. Ive never had no touble out of my Suzuki. But i had to buy a power pack for my Yamaha not long ago.
joshua williams Yamaha is smoother and what do you mean half as strong? Yamaha would kick a Suzuki’s but any day, there are more problems with Suzuki then any other engine and Yamaha has the least amount of problems. That’s why when your on the water you see most with a Yamaha because of the reliability and because there most powerful.
joshua williams Suzuki is a little bit smoother and efficient but they are weak as heck,drag raced one against a Yamaha and the Yamaha made the Suzuki look like a wimp.
I got one of the first New Gen. Evinrude outboards, I was able to cut the HP /size in half, my boat goes 5 mph faster than my older motor, the response of this outboard to this very day, is unbelievable. Uses less fuel than previous engine. So I went from 300 HP, to 150 HP, and my boat goes faster, I have greater capacity, and range. Once this Evinrude dies, I will go to an inboard engine, as outboards cost way more than they are worth.
I've heard similar stories everywhere I've been.
Not only R U the best TH-cam announcer I’ve ever heard,you also rank right up there with the top 5 stand-up comedians as well.Lol,keep the quick whit & perfectly placed sarcasm as well.Kudos to my brotha from anotha mutha with attitude .......
The #1 criteria for me is reliability and #2 is routine maintenance cost. Everything else is subservient. Nearly all of them are quite capable of excellent performance. It's not like "go forward, turn sometimes" is all that complicated. Making an outboard that is reliable IS.
Great video. My fave is Johnson I know they ate gone but I still run a 1989 90hp 2stroke on my 19 foot Mako. The little outboard i used on the lake when I was a kid was a Johnson 5.5 HP or he Evenrude 6HP. Those were late 50's motors in the mid 80's. As A teen my buddy had a Johnson 65HP Stinger on his Boston Whaler. These were are great motors so sad to see these brands go.
Who bought out OMC's parts warehouse?
Yamaha needs to bring back the 2 strokes, anyone agree?
It mixes rice better? Support American industry.
Yes
Just saw this video for the first time. Strange how in less than two years #2 and #3 are out of business. Especially Evinrude.
sad :(
I would have put the last one as an honorable mention. But congratulations to them that was pretty cool.
Tohatsu is the must have motor in Japan! They just don't have a big market share here in the states....but they should!
I once mounted 3 Honda BF15s on an 18 foot aluminum Gregor Sea Hawk in 1987 years before their first BF45 3 cylinder :-) Also, American Honda's Marine division built a turbo BF90 in 1996 for testing.
Although this is pretty far off for new motors older motors are way off.Mercury and evinrude are equal for older ones until you get to high hours in which like my grandfathers 1980 60hp merc has melted THROUGH a cylinder and needs a rebuild while my uncle's 70hp evinrude motor from 1976 with more hours still works like new. If buying an older outboard OMC is the way to go
all i do is work on these and i wholeheartedly agree! as long as it's taken care of properly, they last literally thousands of hours. sadly, too many dont have a clue how to read an owners manual about maintenance.
I have a 17’ montauk with a 115 Yami on it. It came new with a 90 Mercury, and before it even left the shop I had them tear that POS off and put a Yami on. Mercury has the worst reliability imo, Yamahas warranty is a lot better, their parts are a lot better, and they just LOOK a lot better.
Personally I've had experience with Mercury, and Evinrude. My latest boat has a older Suzuki 2 stroke on the back of it. It was overhauled a few years ago, and should give me years of service. If I were to repower with a newer motor I'd probably go with Suzuki. Their 60hp 4 stroke is the lightest in it's class.
Just put a 50 Suzuki on one of the boats at my work. Upgraded from a 50 Yamaha. The difference is phenomenal
Suzuki is #1
ABSOLUTELY from a reliability and build standpoint
Totally agree. Evinrude was very popular for its holeshot. Lower laguna madre. Shallow. But lately unreliable. Most guys moved on from etecs and yamaha to suzuki. Priced right super reliable and fuel efficient.
Yes and suzuki and yamaha are pretty similar except suzi is cheaper
For me, I liked the listing as it introduced me to some history I did not know - Evinrude - and motors I didn't know existed - the 7 thing. The number one doesn't count as it doesn't exist really.
When you watch the next Bass tournament, tell me what you see on the back of those bass boats. Most all the pros use Yamaha or Mercury’s. There’s a reason why they use them... reliability, performance and fuel efficient. There’s a outboard company on your list that’s not here anymore. BIG fish always eat little fish!
I take Evinrude.
When my 197x johnson 20hp finally dies. I'll replace it with a yamaha. So I guess I'm going to die first.
Yamaha 4 stroke...full stop, end of discussion.
anton1949 Mercury verado nuff said
Evinrude thanks fellas.
Guys, 2 strokes are the best.
Gas: yamaha
Diesel: Caterpillar
You can enjoy boating now!!
Replace cat with a good ole cummins, then you're in the ballpark 😆
I have an 87, evenrude 250, 2 stroke, and starting it up while Singing smoke on the water is a blast. Every time!
Back then evinrude and Johnson ruled the outboard nation
Plus, the engine is so loud you don’t have to be bothered by making conversation with others while on the water! lol
they didn't make a 250 in 87'. thats either a 200 or 225 2.7 looper
A Shore 225! For sure
My motor size got bigger on TH-cam! Hahaha
When I saw Evinrude at #3 I stopped paying attention.
Yep they are the worst
brett run lol jealous
brett run obviously you never owned one
Tyrsa Fray sorry Tyrsa that you feel obligated to defend the POS engine you must have on your boat. Evinrude is garbage. I have a 300hp Yamaha four stroke on mine. Bulletproof. If I had an Evinrude it would kill my resale value for sure.
I’ve had Evinrude’s for years with zero problems and nothing but good experience with them and their reliability. You may be right on resales but I don’t buy them to sell. I simply use them. Cheers!
Top 5:
5: suzuki
4: mercury
3: evinrude
2:honda
1: yamaha
True dat
Mine
5:Suzuki
4:Honda
3:evinrude
2:mercury
1: are lord and savior YAMAHA
Mercury faster than Yamaha
Yeah but the mercury will break down while going out to set a speed record
I think Honda's are a nice motor quality and quiet
They are very quiet torquey and kind of light for a 4 stroke
I'm a boat mechanic in Sweden. Now I'm about to translate an untranslatable joke.
Of course I like Evinrude. That doesn't keep me from using a nickname for it. 🤪
The nickname is "Evig Rodd". The g is silent. "Evig" means eternal and "rodd" means rowing. It's approximately pronounced [evirod]. Eternal rowing. 😂
Ain't nuthin like a big Johnson lol
Capt. Irk Before or after Bankruptcy?
I have a massive Johnson 🤣🤣🤣
fastasfox Thats Funny.
My lady enjoys my big johnson too
Yup. 80's johnson v4 for the win!!
I bought a 60hp 4 years ago. I couldn’t be happier. I’m in harsh conditions duck hunting in very cold weather as well as pulling my grandkids on a tube and just a ton of fishing and boating around. Just turn the key at any time and it fires up immediately. No pumping the ball etc. Amazing on fuel as well, used to burn around 12 tanks a season, I’m down to 7, so nearly half the fuel. Other motor was a hard to start 2000 Merc 50hp. It’s a real shame Evenrude couldn’t keep the doors open.
I have an old 2 stroke 1998 mercury outboard runs good
I had 90hpmerc 2 stroke.. Those engines are unbelievably durable. I tried for years too blow that thing up but I failed and I underestimated mercury. I did things to that engine that should never be done to an outboard! It just kept going.. even after I sold it
There's a reason why Mercury is the OEM motor of choice for most manufacturers. It's the best. I can't disagree with this list more. Every boat I've ever owned has had a Mercury and they've never let me down. It's true some of the early OptiMax motors had issues but everything since has been rock solid.
The reason there are so many OEM Mercurys is because they give boat builders deep discounts on them, and it's parent company Brunswick owns many boat brands such as Sea Ray, Bayliner, Crestliner, Harris Boats, and Boston Whaler.
Steve Petttyjohn OMC tried this with their junky Evinrudes but went bankrupt.
I still have my V6 Suzuki 150 2 stroke because I bought it as I didn't trust four strokes at that time.
Still rocking a 2000 fi dt140 it just wont die and pushes my cc 44mph
I have been a motorcycle/marine/auto mechanic for over 30yrs and have been on the water for 40yrs.Yamaha makes the best outboards.period
Yep. I've found that you always ask an experienced mechanic what they would buy. This has saved me endless grief. BTW my grandfather taught me that.
Jeff Perrault Your opinion sucks.
This list makes no sense to me.
#1 Mercury
#2 Suzuki
#3 Seven Marine
#4 Yamaha
#5 Evinrude
Imagine having a motor
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Yamaha is the godfather of all outboards
Mercury is only popular because it is owned by the Brunswick Corporation. So all the boat brands Brunswick owns gets them.
Jacob Allen Your comment exposes your ignorance and stupidity.
@@melrose9252 How so? Brunswick does own them and they slap them on Boston Whalers, Sea Ray, Bayliner, and all these www.brunswick.com/our-brands
1000%true
90% of boats in WI/MN have a Merc on the back, no questions
Being built there helps
This was a waste.
Nice cop out video. Not only with the number one pick, but placing others with what you saw at a Florida boat show. Then again watching a video on outboards from a Yamaha jetboat owner not surprised.
Suzuki wins with the working boats and the guys who use there boats everyday, like myself.
Suzuki is a dam good motor!
joshua williams trash engine, Yamaha is the best most reliable and power.
@@gregmsnow you probaly dont even own a dam boat. You dam sure dont know shit about boat motors.
I agree 100% we are oyster growers and use every brand outboards, lower units were a huge issue on Hondas, BRP are junk and expensive to fix, Mercs are now garbage and Yamahas has used us well but the Suzuki has held up the best for everyone here. This guy obviously has no clue about outboards.
wasup fool Yamaha is still the number one in our it’s for power and reliability and they’ve ranked number one forever, it’s the most bought outboard, but I agree this guy knows nothing about outboards
Your video and rankings are spot on except for the turbo Honda All the Yamaha guys got butt hurt but when they watch the Rude walk right past them with no oil changes and minimal tuning and maintenance they get all jealous because they all want a bigger Johnson
Love Evinrudes! Power, torque, reliability!
I once rode on a 42’ Freeman with quintuple prototype Suzuki 450’s, damn it was awesome.
I am still rocking my 1970 55hp Evinrude on my 1970 15’ Crestliner.
Bill Williams Yeah it is. I love it.
Honda on my pontoon and Merc on my bass boat. No problems out of either of them. Both are quiet 4 cyl, 4 stroke outboards. Had an Evinrude 85hp on a bass boat and ran the stew out of it for over 25 years including fresh and salt water, fishing, pulling skiers, etc. Never had any problems with it either.
I love a Yamaha, Honda 2nd, Suzuki 3rd, Evinrude 4th and Merc can just stay in the shop. 7 marine is awesome but I don't have 7 marine money.
I don't have 7 marine money either so my real number one for me was probably evinrude with Yamaha a close second since number one on the list is a unicorn.
@John Higginbotham Now that is the real list lol, mercury's 👎👎👎 Yamaha 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That’s as close to my list as possible. I live in the North and not one fly-in fishing operator will run the black anchor ...Yamaha , Honda and Suzuki can take incredible abuse .
@@duncandmcgrath6290 that's what my friend calls mercs lol
Duncan D McGrath He is probably too dumb to know that Merck’s are the best then Yamaha.
How did Tohatsu not make the list??
Johnson last for over 20 years my last Johnson lasted for over 30 years my Johnson cranks right up from cold start on the first time plus it’s so easy to work on a Johnson outboard motor the only other motor I’d have besides this motor would have to be a evinrude only if I couldn’t get a hold of another Johnson
a 20 year old johnson IS an evinrude.
I know I’m making a point that evinrude and Johnson are the best
@@dreamcatcherwolf6132 Just making sure you know. I have a 92 johnson 150 on my 21ft pontoon
I do
Travis Simpson Johnson’s were so good they went bankrupt.
Well, number 7 is my number one. I don’t need more 225HP to get around, and having a Honda I don’t need more engines to get home. Always.
This dude definitely doesn't have much sea time under his belt. Etecs was the worst outboard to offshore maritime. Suzuki is the most reliable speaking as to 300hp class,then yamaha,then mercury and the rest follows. Sevens are for rich people,so let's not entertain them. I could go on and on....
My Suzuki has been a super reliable beast. ONLY issue to date has been neutral safety switches which we replaced both. Approaching 1000 hrs on our 2011 DF150
I am also unimpressed with Etecs from reliability standpoint. Seen them break down too many times sorry Etec fans.
Boating in general is for rich people, anymore. I miss the 90's and early 2000's. I was just a kid then, but we had it made with a 175hp 15 foot 79 glastron. Bitch would do 70 on the water.
Love my G2 700 hrs, flawless. Repowered my G1 a 2900, still ran perfect. So sad they are discontinued.
#1. Yamaha
#2 Suzuki
#3 Mercury
#4 Evinrude
#5 Honda
True
Yams are the heaviest and slowest
@@adventurefishing3190 most reliable but dont take that offensive
@@JacksonStewart-yr2rg I work at very busy boat yard and I see what real fisherman are using 70+ hours a week, and which ones spend more time in the shop. Haha
ChrisCo my dad bought a 2019 Yamaha 15 hp and lost his trailer going down the road and the motor busted the transom and flipped down the ditch and it cracked the tiller handle but didn’t even scratch anything else the battery cables ripped the terminals out of the battery but a quick weld and new battery she’s been fine ever since. But I have a 20 hp tohatsu and it’s been a trooper too.
My 1988 evinrude 70hp 2 stroke ran like a beast until I sank it last year and it seized solid. 30 years of running, never rebuilt. They know 2 strokes. I also just bought a 25 mariner/Yamaha, with restrictions removed it's running 30hp, 25 years old, still runs sweeeeewt.
Man come on Tohatsu doesn’t make a top 7????
I totally agree-a great motor!
Tohatsu is a rebadged Honda.
@Sparky vlogs a friend of mine just put one on his Parker.
@Sparky vlogs he put a Tohastsu on his Parker boat. Saved thousands over the Honda and it's the same motor.
Suzuki is an excellent outboard and always has been. Bought a new 75hp in 96. Got rid of it in 2015. Only thing ever replaced was plugs and water pump.
Yamaha is hands down the best you can get and is #1.
Mercury is a good motor. But they overcomplicate the design. Maintenance and parts cost a lot more as well.
You forgot Tohatsu. The highest produced outboards in the world.
Adam Riale they make the small hp mercs up to thirty hp and fourty to sixty made in China and higher hp motors are made here in USA 🇺🇸
and my 18hp 2001 tohatsu has to be the quietest, smoothest and by FAR most powerful 18 ever made. got it for $150 on craigslist. needed a coil and a carb clean and water pump. $280 all in haha!
A Shore yeah no shit Tohatsu is coming up I haven't heard anything bad about them you know if made in Japan it has to be good I bought a brand new merc in 1984 35 hp and it blew up twice my dad grew me up on Evinrude he bought a brand new Evinrude 9.9 long shaft for his big boat and running the drainage canal with my school buddy sank that motor twice and kept running should have stuck with them but it cost more than mercury at that time haven't gone back since JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🛥🌴⛱😃😊🙏🏻🙏🏻
They are me I had one and it lived in the shop also had a 15 hp merc they make for them also shit
So, the best outboard is the worst outboard modified by some kids, and you can’t buy it on the market.. hmmm.
Bigger is not better, it’s just a different size, like a drill bit.
Hi! Thanks for this video! My top 7 outboard brands are Elto, McCulloch, Martin, Scott Atwater, Yamato, Konig, Quincy Welding.
Me dreaming of all of these when my outboard is a 1950 gale buccaneer 5hp that still runs 69 years later
Heck yeah!
I hear you with my 53 Johnson seahorse 7.5
they tossed in a 10 year warranty on my evinrude etec 30 as a promo..been a fantastic motor..tons of power for my 14' princecraft aluminum..quiet and good gas mileage..i'm very happy
This has to be a troll video. Yamaha is the best on reliability and they have great motors on performance as well, and thats all that really matters. I think this was more of a features and cool factor list rather than comparing numbers and reliability.
I'm running a 1988 yamaha 150 pro v. Had it since it was new and the only thing I have done to it was change the plugs. Best engine I have ever had.
Evinrude is so great they went out of business🤣
The captains of these shrimpin boats around here tow 18 ft Carolina Skiffs behind their shrimp boats to run the nets with. each of them are outfitted with 90 HP Yamahas. They're all sitting on well over 2,000 hours. I've got a 2003 15 HP Mercury on my RiverCraft with over 950 hours. If you take care of these things they will last for a long time.
I HAVE OWNED 5 NEW RANGERS IN 5 YEARS TRIED ALL DIFFERENT OUTBOARDS HANDS DOWN BEST WAS THE EVINRUDE E-TEC. IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD ONE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
ONE YEAR of anything is No test...try 10 in saltwater everyday use.
If you worked at a marina like me the you would understand that the etec is the worst engine bar none
In older times we used to say.....If its white it might, if its grey it may ,but if its black it'll get you back.
I heard the same thing except. "If it was black, you had to paddle back.
@@kensummerlin180 and silver will deliver.
Lol you have this list reversed and Evinrude was never reliable shouldn't make the list good thing is now they're outta business.
"Evinrude was never reliable." Obviously, you have zero knowledge of the history of outboard motors and Evinrude. In the 1940's through 1970's - they were the most reliable motor on the market followed closely by Mercury when Carl Kiekhaefer owned the company.
@@buckhorncortez Sorry I wasn't alive during the 1940s and I doubt you were either. Not trying to bash them but if they made good solid reliable engines then maybe they'd still be around.
@@buckhorncortez true, and its also true in recent years both are junk
Judging by all the dislikes on this video you have to remember what one person looks for in a outboard is going to be different from the next person. One person might just look at reliability and another might be looking for power, while others want a little of both... see what i'm getting at? Bronco even said in the beginning that this is his list and will not get technical at all. lol, I didn't agree with this list either but still gave it a thumbs up!
Mercury beating out Honda you are too funny. Yamaha ranking 4th Evinrude 3rd really. I'm so glad you are not my mechanic nor salesman. Where do you get your info
1. Yamaha 2. Suzuki 3. Mercury