Warhammer: The Old World | Novels, Lore, Maps & RPGs | A great narrative expansion on the horizon?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- How important is lore development for Warhammer: The Old World, and do recent Map updates & a RPG on the horizon point to a golden age of old world narrative expansion?
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Cubicle 7's stuff is great. I ended up picking up all of the The Enemy Within books even though i played the original campaign years ago, just because they're so nice.
I love the city guides, the maps are brilliant.
We do not have details on the system of this old world RPG, but certainly the supplements (ruels aside) can be used with the main WHFRP system (it is the sam place after all, just a few years later). So I will probably get the odd supplement or dventure. We still play 1rs edition ruleswise, so our group already adapts a lot when we get a current day WHFRP book.
Yes they’re all very flexible
Great stuff. I'd love to see more novels in the current setting
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Do you belive in orbs? At 12:37 one appears to the left of the head, moving for 10 seconds .
A spirit visit maybe 🤔?
I’m familiar with some of the theories around them. Good spot though.
Cubicle 7's WFRP books are fantastic and do wonders to flesh out the world. I think it's no coincidence that they released a Dwarf book for WFRP4e around the time Dwarfs were released for TOW, and that the next, upcoming book is one for High Elves!
Clever bit of marketing going on there.
I need to pick up the dwarf book (and the end one when it comes out). Their books are great
Very hopeful we get more lore- I really want more books. A roleplaying game could be very fun to try.
I think it will slowly come over time, but some novels would give it a real boost.
I’d love to see new fiction for The Old World, and would certainly pick up Warhammer FRP. I just dug out my old Trollslayer book and started re-reading that.
It’s hard to beat a bit of Gotrek & Felix.
I got my first Cubicle 7 WFRP book - Salzemund - and they’re lovely. I’d pick up Old World equivalents for the lore and the pictures. Really enriches the world. As you say though, the WFRP books are already great for that. It’s the same world and you can find the Old World moment in the histories.
They are stunning books, add so much depth to the world of Warhammer, and I hope the Old World equivalents to the same for ToW.
Hi Stu... Love your shows, keeping me going while I get through my longbeards! You don't happen to have a link to the community interactive map? I'm damned if I can find it :) Thank you.
Thank you.
It’s currently offline, has been a for a few days now, hopefully it will be back soon. It’s normally imbedded in this website www.theoldworld.com
@@MiniatureRealms thanks my friend 👍🙂
Cool deep dive!
PS: It's _cubicle_ and not "crucible" 😉
Yeah I’m an idiot 😂
@@MiniatureRealmsyou’re a busy man
When do you turn that pc off ? 😂
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Still waiting for Beastmen and wood elves. Can’t wait to see what new content those two armies receive!
Exciting times
The roleplaying game/supplements for Old World would be pretty interesting even if just from a lore perspective. It has been maybe 25 years since I last did some roleplaying, I actually would like to do it but finding the time and a group would no doubt be a fair challenge.
I would hazard a guess and say that most of the map development is lore/fluff and won’t end up with supported minis. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong however as I think it would be awesome for new factions or even just some new kits that could be used with existing minis to create new units (heads, shields packs etc).
I have a bunch of Norse dwarfs particularly because I was able to pick up a fair batch of them from a LGS in the early 90s at clearance type prices (maybe £3 per blister?). They had quite a range of minis so it is possible that they could release those again as MTO or something?
A campaign book would let them introduce all kinds of new material including as you said Dogs of War etc. Such a book and any new minis introduced would sell like hot cakes I’m sure
It’s definitely not impossible to see more OOP minis brought back in that way, I hope to see quite a lot more old classics that way.
I think often when a company like gw is incorporating fanmade content into canon is because they don't really have exhaustive encyclopedia about their ip and they write things looking at wikis online and it is often quite blurry where canon and headcanon are separated.
Yep I think that’s what often happens, definitely with Black Library authors.
Wow!! Where can I get that map??
The map has currently been taken down sadly, but you can usually find it here: www.theoldworld.com
@@MiniatureRealms Thank you! And is that the map found at time stamp 13:56?
@Valathiril Oh no, I figured you meant the map that I spent some time talking about at the start of the video.
The map from that time stamp is from a Cubicle 7 Map back pdf that you can purchase from their website under the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay section.
In 3rd edition you could get mercenaries from wider reaches of the old world
I remember, some very interesting army lists back then.
I'm waiting for something 'new' before jumping in. Hopefully Cathay will fill that void.
The current prices for ancient models are quite egregious imo. They're only going to keep going up too!
GW prices are a tricky subject, I think they’re pretty much too expensive across the board really. But I do think the older minis are quite good value compared to other GW ranges/newer models etc). I completely understand the opposite argument though.
I honestly think the map expansion was simply the wrong version - it included new wood elf and Beastmen locations that haven’t been discussed yet for example. I don’t imagine GW really would be phased by ‘map from fan content’ warrants such a change - but ‘early spoilers’, particularly the southern realms stuff, felt more like a mistake by web developers
Yep most likely, I definitely don’t buy into the whole fan content thing that was popular in the Facebook groups and Reddit.
Tilea and Estalia are pretty much like Empire (maybe little less advanced), Estalia with a bit of Arabic influence. So using imperial minis, especially milia box, should allow to field their armies with no problem. I really don't think we need fully fledged armies of those lands. Rules like AJ - sure, fully fledged armies: no. We still have plenty of legacy factions that are waiting for full release - vampires, Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Skaven, even Chaos Dwarfs (I dislike ogres - I think their place is in other armies as mercs - and daemons should be summonable by other chaos factions), before GW should even think about new-new armies in TOW. That's why I'm pretty salty about possible Cathay release. Not a big fan of Dogs of War either. I like current TOW merc system and I think we should stick with that.
I’m pretty much on board with all of that. I don’t mind Cathay though, as much as they don’t excite me as much as some legacy factions returning, I think it will be good for the games growth (and I don’t think it was ever an either or choice over the legacy ones, I just think we might get them with a second edition).
@@MiniatureRealms I don't mind Cathay, Kislev or Nippon either - as long as those factions don't come at the expense of legacy factions. There are people with those armies waiting for full release (and be, for example allowed to play at Warhammer World or other official GW tournaments) - and it should have a priority over new and more exotic factions.
I agree. I’m pretty sure it’s internal politics that have meant those factions are missing more than being delayed by Cathay etc, but that’s just an educated guess.