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- 2024 is starting off with an absolute banger! The Black Widow 3.0 comes equipped with HK22 Aggression Solid and the original Gas Mask asymmetrical core. There's a LOT of high expectations whenever a new Widow is introduced - let's see if it can live up to the hype?!
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With the help of SPECTO data, it'll help tell the story about reaction shape, overall hook and continuation through the pins. Here are the SPECTO data points used and definition of each term:
Launch Speed - Speed measured off the hand.
Entry Speed - Speed measured at the pins. (What you'd see on your home center MPH screens)
Rev Rate - Revolutions Per Minute (RPM)
Launch Angle - The angle the ball traveled the first 10 feet.
Break Point Position - Board at which the ball was at its outermost position.
Total Hook - Total number of boards the ball crosses on the way to the pins.
Hook Power - Number of boards the ball hooked based on the True Breakpoint.
Entry Angle - The angle of the ball between 51 and 55 feet.
Impact Angle - The angle of the ball between 57 and 59.5 feet.
Pin Deck Exit - Ball position at the end of the pin deck.
Questions? Comments? Did you order one after seeing this video? Let me know! I read all the comments and respond to many!
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What is there to say? Another awesome Black Widow release. I've never been disappointed with a Widow ball.
The longevity and performance from Widows is legendary. I’m just happy I get to throw them!
My bro still has the original red black widow, it's beaten up, but still hooks
The BW nasty was terrible
Nick, I’d really love to see a comparison between this 3.0 and the Extreme Envy please 😊
Was looking into purchasing an Extreme Envy until I saw the 3.0 coming out, would like to see this comparison as well
Me too
@@nana-lt5gy me to !!
I agree. I already have the extreme and have the 3.0 pre-ordered
I threw my 3.0 today. I'm still learning how to properly throw a bowling ball, but when I had a decent throw, she produced!
Won my 1st local tournament using the original Black Widow. Awesome to see the progression. Thank you for another great review video.
Wow, this ball looks amazing. Can't wait to get one.
Loved the video
Looks great! Looking forward to the black pearl review and black pearl vs purple hammer!!
Great review Nick. Looking forward to the other reviews.
Just watching this video I just ordered mine today can't wait to get my fingers in this ball
This ball definitely looks promising. I can't wait to see your review of the Black Hammer 78D and Scorpion Low Flare.
Just got the widow 3.0! Super excited to try it out this weekend
You matched up with that ball perfectly.
It’s insane how easy it was for me to just line up and go!
Used the Extreme Envy in all 3 league games-700. Even used it to pick up 10-pins. 223,254,223. The EX En works with my hand changes very well. I’ll use it again next week.
I pick mine up on Friday! Super stoked to throw it.
Thinking about replacing my Phase 2 with this to go along with my BW hybrid 2.0. Love the channel.
Good looking ball, i am going to go back a bit and say that it reminds me of the old Hammer 3D. That was an awesome ball.
Hammer is gonna make me go broke! Gotta have this one sometime.
Excited for this BW 3.0 Solid!!!
Thank you for making this video
No problem 😎
Just ordered one yesterday. Hope it makes a difference. Already have the 2.0. Proper finger-tip drilling is crucial for these balls in order to get the best performance.
Another solid release by hammer 👍
and its in my favorite color orange, awesome ball
I’m still throwing my Hammer from the mid 80’s!
I have mine also! Paid 40 bucks for itv with my discount at the bowling alley my mom worked at.!
I've got my Dads old Roto Grip UC2 from the 80s you think I should use it ?
Looks so good
Well I know what I’m getting, was going to get the white 2.0 since I have the 2.0 red one, this cove on this 3.0 will be in my 6 pk.. 10:33 that was a beautiful shock Nick
I just bought one and wanted to see some video of it going down the lane. I’m really excited to use this ball now!
I just ordered one today. Have you had a chance to use it yet?
Just brought this bowl because of this video. Love the video breakdown and the lessons you was giving and the video of the throws. Thank you for that
Enjoy it!
@@brunsnick Update it took me a bit to figure out and i don't throw hard but once i figured it out i was nailing strikes i had 5 in a row before i got injured with my index finger. The ball was amazing and once i work out and gain more muscle to throw that ball 16-17 MPG i'll ace it i had to move way to my left and my follow through needs work
But everything you said was 100 percent on the money thank you sir
Just pre-ordered mine with my PSO. Damn you BrunsNick!
Enjoy! Not even 2 weeks to go!
This ball is a pocket seeking missile, so sick!
just purchased this ball last week and i absolutely love it. I was using the black widow 2.0 and considered that to be the best ball ever lol...boy was i wrong, the 3.0 is by far the best ball ive ever thrown.
Nick, you made this look awesome!!!! What a value for $149!!! It may out-sell the BW 2.0.
This ball looks like a killer! I throw Storm, but I may be throwing Widows again
Same here. This Widow looks like a killer.
I enjoyed watching this video alot about bowling ball
That's a nice motion
NICK!!!! Happy New year to you and your loved ones. Just a simple request: Can you please pit this gainst Brutal Collision? 😁
Probably not, it's discontinued and I don't have one.
What's there say, but WOW!! Looks like it's definitely a benchmark ball. I may just have to get that as I rebuild my 14# arsenal...
I'm on the fence about getting this ball or the extreme envy, I love my BW 2.0 hybrid, and my radioactive vibe.
I may be showing my age but my favored Hammer ball has been The Real Deal, which was my go-to ball in the late 90s.
Impressive ball, it looks like the best Widow to date.
I haven’t thrown that many of them but I can’t wait for the public to get their hands on these!
I just bough my 3.0 too. What type of towel are you using? Do you have a link where I can buy one?
Great video...
Thanks!
Pls do a video comparing all black widow balls n when to use them. D widow 2.0 3.0 and pink urethane. 😊
Yeah may or may not have just placed my order after seeing this. Was thinking about getting it but wasn't sure but after seeing this video I'm 100% sure
awesome! 🙌🏻
Just got the 3.0 can’t wait to throw it tomorrow in league. I gotta feeling they are going to add hk22 to the ghost version as well
This is a pretty impressive.HK22 solid. I'm hoping hammer does a 3D offset HK22 solid.
You were speaking about the colors of the ball orange and black those with the colors of the radical guru master
I’m really hoping this core makes it another 20 years. As close to perfection as it gets.
I’ll do my part to make it happen!
I nearly bought this ball. I mean I had it in my cart to buy until I saw: Columbia 300 High Speed. I had the shop add a 4000 grit abralon sand to it prior to buying it. I am waiting on it to get drilled and I will roll it this coming monday. I am looking forward to throwing my High Speed
Hey Nick! Awesome as always. Is the Aggression cover stronger than Semtex? I ask because the Hazmat is more expensive than the Widow line which makes no sense to me if the Aggression cover is stronger as well as asym vs. sym. This 3.0 along with the Hazmat would make an unbeatable 1-2 punch on most conditions.
Widow has always been in a lower price point down from the high end. It's not entirely how aggressive a ball is that determines the category. Widow should be at the top, but we don't want to change anything about it, especially the value.
Beast Mode
Can you do a comparison between the black widow 3.0 and the extreme envy
Hellcat xlr8/extreme envy/bw 3.0 comparison soon?
Love your vids. Just wondering where you start with the first shot? Feet st the middle dot or more right. Keep up the good work!
Start on 15. Drift left about 5.
@@brunsnick thx for the reply waiting for the next vid
Comparison with the envy tour solid?
This was a terrific ball review. This ball is so versatile. The shape is so smooth. No hockeystick motions. No skid flip. It reads the lane very nice. This is going to be my new benchmark ball.
I'm getting one of these
Oh man. I need try this one I still. Use my hybrid black widow. But I need. Buy me one these. Soon ? I have a collection of it. ❤
So, Envy Tour or BW Solid 3.0? Do they use up the same spot in your bag or are they slightly different?
Not at all. Widow a lot more flare and hook potential, especially from playing deeper inside.
Maaaan another Widow!
How would you stack this one up against The Hitter?
Need to fill the stronger asym slot in my league bag and I’ve got it down between these two.
I think the Widow is a little stronger and a lot more off the spot.
Hi Nick -- How would you compare 3.0 to the Archetype or Brutal Collision?
In the same range of motions, but Widow core just rolls different. Never threw the Brutal.
This is awesome but damn I can't keep up, Everytime I start saving up a new ball comes out 🤣, I'm working on getting the NU Blue
Buy the time I get the black widow 3.0 they'll be on 5.0 🤣
Ive got this one pre-ordered, I throw no thumb and am comfortable between 18-20 mph. Think this was a good choice? Any suggestion for layout? I have revs but the speed kills me at times. Any other balls also?
Good choice. I’d talk to your pro shop about layouts. I have no idea how you bowl or track without a thumb. Keep the surface duller and throw it hard like you like to, so long as they can drill it to flare and not hit your fingers you’re golden.
Thanks man! Keep the videos comin!! 💪🏽
Getting mine tomorrow. By specs for my fitting, my launch and down lane speed are about 3mph faster with a 400 rev rate. Will let you Know after my pro shop drills it and I throw a few.
Have fun!
Ball seems to be a magnet to the pocket. I suddenly have miss room I didn't have before, even with the Gem
@@brunsnick Threw against two urethane balls tonight. Shot 719. Both urethane balls were off the lanes by the 3rd game.
Nick,
What do you think about this ball vs the extreme envy?
I have to think the Extreme is a little stronger and smoother compared.
I am positive this is my next ball soon. Been wanting to go back to hammer and I feel this is the one that is going to push me Start with this then go to 2.0 as second ball you think would be a good one two option with a a thud ball not sure yet
2.0 Hybrid below this would be the right choice, then something below that could be Ocean Vibe Or Scorpion Sting.
@brunsnick would the Black Widow Savage be a good 3rd ball in that group?
would like to see a comparison or know which ball the Mindset or Hammer 3.0 will hook more over all given similar layouts?
3.0 will hook more and recover better from inside angles in my experience. Mindset is very smooth and controllable.
Omy man that first shot was awesome 2:52 you got to be kidding, I saw a ball that is following the black widow with no disappointments, 3:41 oh man this 3.0 is unbelievable. Hey Nick are you on a house shot ? Maybe I missed your comment in the beginning Sir
Yes, Crown Jewel 43' typical house shot I use.
Nice video Nick! On the 1st shot : you said you were more off the back of the ball not much side rotation, but on the contrary you had plenty of side (which is your usual shot). And it wasnt that straight of a shot on the track either. It was 11 to 5. My question is : will this play ok for down and in players or will it usually spend too much energy too early? Also something to keep in mind : as you went left further and further, the ball was getting shinier, so it could manage to be a bit more skid flippy. (this happens in all ball reviews of course).
It’s relative. Am I more on the side compared to the shots from 15 and 20 left?
And I think if you have the ball speed, the Widow can be a great ball for down and in.
@@brunsnick I realize it is not easy to change axis rotation by a lot for most people. I see this on other ball reviewers as well. They may mention a big change in axis rotation, but then it is small , sometimes none. It's no biggie, i am a nitpicker lol. Also the camera angle may trick the eye a bit. More or less most of your shots look like 55-60 degrees, somewhere around there. Could be wrong. Your speed was certainly lower, and maybe a bit more rpm. Ball looks great on a house shot. Do you think it might look better on patterns towards 4 to 1 , 3 to 1 ?
Gotcha for the down and in. It's gonna need speed. Thanks!
Nice. I heard there other new one.I may order calls Scorpion Low Flare.
Is this a good ball for me? So bought my first ball last summer a tropical surge. I like it when it hooks back in but the last few games I’ve played it hasn’t been hooking much so I feel like I’m missing lots of strike opportunities. I bowl 2 handed right handed or I can bowl left handed with just one hand but it hurts my shoulder pretty bad. I think my surge is a 11-12 pound I can’t remember so I definitely want to go up to at least 13 pounds maybe 14
If you have the ball speed for it, sure! It’s a big step up from what you got. Best to talk to your pro shop and let them watch you bowl some shots and make a suggestion. You might be better suited in the 2.0 Hybrid instead. 👍🏻
how does this compare to the ghost pearl and phaze 2? those are my main balls with a 10 lb surge as my spare ball. my phaze strikes harder down the middle buy my widow seems to stay right
Stronger than all.
How does the 3.0 solid compare to the 2.0 solid? I have the 2.0 and even at 500 grit it still hits hard. I assume the 2.0 reads sooner without hk, while the 3.0 is a little stronger and corners harder, but not as much as the 2.0 hybrid. Thoughts?
I have to think this is just a bit sharper off the spot with overall hook about the same. It’s not a replacement for 2.0 as they are different enough.
What is the PIN location on this layout pin up a pin down on the 60x5x 20
The pin is up
Just purchased the Black Widow 3.0 the other day and it is WICKED. I can't believe how much it hooks. Going to take some adjusting with how I throw, which is more of a Norm Duke style. Curious as to if you have any tips or recommendations for mastering this ball? I realize many factors like throw style, lane conditions, etc., are in play, but figured I'd ask! Nice video!
If you let it lane shine, it’ll tame down some naturally. But yeah, it’s made to hook!
Appreciate it, my man! I'm not going to lie, I had to look up what Lane Shine was! Lol. I would say I'm a hobby bowler looking to take it more seriously as of late!@@brunsnick
Which board did you initially start at? Really thinking about getting one now
I always start at 15 but I do drift about 5 left.
@@brunsnick ok. I have trouble throwing it slow. Do you think I should about 25-30 range
I also have a bit of a high rev rate
That’s not really a question I can answer without seeing you bowl
I just bought this to replace my storm tropical surge because the storm don't wanna hook it works better as a spare ball lol how would you compare the 2
That’s like comparing a filet mignon to ground chuck.
@brunsnick hahaha good to know I'm excited. I'm new ish to bowling so I hope the widow helps me learn to hook better
Did this ball come out of nowhere? I don’t remember seeing any videos that this ball was in the works. It looks pretty damn sweet and the performance to match.
Every ball seems to come out of nowhere. All the work is done behind the scenes
I picked up my brand new 2.0 hybrid on Monday. Very next day the 3.0 was announced. Just my luck haha. Oh well still loving my new ball.
@@DeutschBago very different bowling balls.
@@brunsnick If I sand my 2.0 Hybrid to 2000, would I get the same ball reaction (and results) as with this new 3.0? They have the same core, and both have HK22 coverstocks...
I'd love to know the pattern you thrown on, was it the normal pattern?
I show the pattern in the video, Crown Jewel 43' house shot. It's what I use in most every review.
Nick, I need an overseas u.s. comparison the 3.0 to the demolition I'm rolling now
Afraid not.
When you say "bowl in" or "bowl out" what do you mean?
Changing my targets on the lanes by moving my feet in or out. Out is closer by the right gutter. In gets closer to the left gutter.
Is this specto contraption accurate? I cannot accept his revrate is 300-340
Not always accurate on rev rate since it’s a calculation. Might under read by 10% but close enough.
What's up with the holes and layout of his ball? I've never seen a ball drilled that way before
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We need comparison between this and the solid 2.0
What has more hook? This black widow or the motive crimson jackal?
This. Probably.
@brunsnick glad I found your channel. After watching your content I decided to go with the Hammer Extreme Envy. I've been throwing the quantum bias for the last few years and really love the highly reactive balls. Glad you showed such an in depth analysis of these balls. Keep up the great work😎👍
What finger tip insert do you use??
Ultimate Sticky Semi
@@brunsnick appreciate it
This ball looks really great! I love the Black Widow series.
I actually have 4 BW urethanes, the OG, the Black Solid, the Red Pearl and the Purple Pearl.
Maybe it is time to add a resin BW to the collection?
What is the PIN location on this layout 60x5x 20 pin up or pin down
Might be that time!
@@brunsnick Indeed. But first I want to see the Black Pearl in action against the Purple Hammer. Same layouts and grits on same lines. Please. 😁
you think the troublemaker pearl would be good on fresh for a house shot?
If you’re slower ball speed or more rev dominant sure. Or if you bowl on a drier house shot.
I’m more struggling on what ball to begin with… I have the vintage phantom and the Melee Jab Carbon that i usually use on fresh, but I don’t get a good read with them early. Any suggestions? 17 mph 450 rpm 2 hander*
@@tmccbc are you playing wide open angles to start?
No, usually up 10/11 is where I like to start at… I don’t like getting deeper early unless the lane calls for it.
How can I tell which which Black Widow ⚫ I need or want?
I still use my Black Widow Pearl (1.0) and after long periods of not playing I still have command and control.
I'd like to get one that slides less in the oil.
I was great on lanes that used to be wood. But feels way slick on synthetic lanes of current.
Sincerely
Mike B. B. From Philly, P.A. U.S.A.
I would recommend the 2.0 Solid or if you have more ball speed, the 3.0.
@@brunsnick I have a lot of power with low rev rates; though never measured.
You may wonder how Do I strike with a Pearl under those conditions?
Me too!
Usually the ball slides and goes straight until it hooks, thus making shots that hit the head pin needlessly difficult.
My goal is a ball for Dry, Wet, in-between, and my spare.
I believe my old ball is the Dry, and my pure rubber spare is a delight.
Thank You for the response!
Sincerely Mike B. B.
is there a video out there explaining why he has his ball drilled the way it is
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Is the cover stronger that 2.0?
Seems like it but not early strong for me.
Do you start on the big dot?
Right of it 5 boards.
Ill just wait for the black widow 4.0
Missing out 😎
How often should you clean or resurface the Hammer Black Widow 3.0 Bowling Ball
Being dull, it’s important to refresh the surface more often. It only takes a few games to lane shine, so hitting it with SiaAir pads to keep it dull is a good idea.
@@brunsnick Thank you... 2000 grit?
That’s the ending grit I believe but to get a true box surface you need to recreate the steps from the beginning. Try it with 2000 by hand and see. If not, try 1500. It all can depend on how you throw.
Thanks
Would this ball be a good everyday driver for someone thats only planning on having one ball?....for now
A lot of people probably do just have a Black Widow in their bag. Have at it.
Dang, that thing is NASTY!
Looks like a stronger version of the radical hitter
what about ball speed mains is between 9/ 11 sometimes 8:19
I'm currently bowling at 12lbs but transitioning to 13 will probably have the same core inside. I'm hoping to throw 14lbs but not until I get stronger. Is it worth getting this ball at 14lbs or should it be ok to use at either 12 or 13lbs?
There will still be plenty of flare potential and performance with 12/13, you just don't get the Gas Mask core until 14lb.
Hey Nick, are you bowling on the PBA tour? I can't remember seeing any videos from you regarding bowling professionally, but I've just started watching bowling videos this season. Your accuracy and consistency amazes me, but I realize that video editing is a thing, so maybe you just edit out all of your bad shots, though I don't think that you throw many bad shots, you bowl so effortlessly. Secondly, are there many Pro-Amateur bowling events that happen, where amateur bowlers have a chance to compete against the pros? I'm enjoying bowling again after over 35 years, that I'm going to start looking for some senior tournaments, as I like to compete, and miss it from my youth as an amateur athlete in a few different sports. I'm loving my Black Widow 3.0, as well as my Rotogrip Harsh Reality.
I was pro for 15 years or so, mostly just a regional player. Haven’t competed much since 2015. You can bowl with pros during tour season pretty much at every stop they have. There’s pro ams there.
As a 2 hander this ball is going to RIP I can't wait
Tested a BW3.0 at a demo yesterday. As much as ive loved it when seeing others use it, it turned out not to fit my style of play. If my speed/revs were better matched, maybe. But otherwise, found it to be very unforgiving for someone like me whos still not very experienced
Hey Nick, Does this mean I now park my Purple Hammer?
Purple always comes with.
Which do I use first on a league house pattern
Whichever you want to throw. If you want to play straighter, then Purple. If you want to move in more and hook it, then 3.0.
Instead of a "Mind Blown" thumbnail, you need a "I Just Crapped In My Pants" thumbnail. 🤣
Ha! SNL did that with oops I crapped my pants skit 🤣
@@brunsnick Even before that, Bobcat Goldthwait and "I pooped a little." 🤣