Love!!! Love!!! LOVE, this format! A Race to 12, this is definitely a keeper format. You gave us the specs and info needed upfront and got straight to the good part. Really loved the fact that we got to see it from both a righty and a lefty's stance. We got to see a little transition, a little break down, and the moves you guys made to compensate, for both sides. Definitely keep this format.
Ron, you mentioned “change his layout because it’s so forward for him” Would you plug and redrill? What are the pros and cons? This type of content interests me. Thank you for all your contributions.
This format is AWESOME!! Being able to see how the ball reacts when making adjustments is great information. Personally, I would enjoy more talk about the layouts, mass bias, and surface of the ball, to better understand the motion.
I definitely love this format. A ball layout video detailing what pin distances to have that relate to different reactions would be extremely beneficial! 👍🏽
I really like the format with missed shots and talking through the adjustments. Having different styles helps as well. It was interesting seeing the ball reaction with the higher rev rate. That has been my experience with Asyms and particularly Hammer, but now that I'm learning more about layouts, I think my hate for asyms has to do with how they have been laied out for me. Keep up the great work.
Truly a great video Ron! I am about to pull the trigger on BW 3.0 and I am a lefty with a 350 revrate, so this content is EXACTLY what I was looking for. As always, your feedback is awesome! It's been a while since I have had an asymm ball drilled, so my PSO will definitely need to run some numbers.
You mentioned increasing the pin distance on the layout to reduce how forward it is. This great knowledge, as one of my struggles with low tilt, high speed, high rev is forward roll.
This is a nice format. However I think Ron had the advantage from the jump. Ron was bowling on the lane that has more friction due to the make up of the SPL. The left lane is faster than the right. I would like to see this format again but switching at the halfway point…. 12 strikes (first to 6) then switch just so you can see the ball reaction from the same player on two different lane surfaces.
Great vid, love the format and the discussion of what your seeing the ball do. Good to get perspective from 2 diff rev rate bowlers also. Curious on your axis tilt also to try and compare to my style
being a lefty myself this format is really helpful to really see where another lefty is putting the ball. my layouts are a 4x4x2 or a 4x4x3 which would you prefer for this ball
Finally!! I get to see real ball reactions and misses. so tired of seeing crankers and 2 handers with 450+ rev rates, and edits to show only strikes. Im an older bowler with bad shoulders, rev rate about 350-375, need a ball that can make the turn and finish. I would like to know what the THS pattern is though?? I had an OG 16# Black Widow back in the day. I think this video just sold me a new one.
I have the 3.0 and have an extremely low rev rate. The comes back if I get it too far outside and hit seems to hold if it goes inside. Just bought one for my wife and she loves the ball
I really enjoyed this format. I bowled youth league back in the 70's and early 80's, I can't believe the changes to the sport have gotten so other worldly. What would you recommend, ball wise, for me getting back into the sport after all these years?
I loved everything but the one thing I would say you guys should’ve done was after the first person made six you guys should’ve switched lanes due to the two different textures of the lane. We would’ve been able to see if Chris’s ball had a different reaction and yours aswell Ron. I feel like this would actually help out a lot, because a lot of people bowl on certain lanes having two different bowlers and two different lanes would’ve been the perfect execution in my opinion. As I know, his revs would’ve came off your lanes a little different than the slick China.😮😂
Those steps are what the factory put the ball through. Why not just 2000? Because they use Siaair pads and not TruCut which is also why it won’t scan at that surface.
love this format, but will not be buying this ball... not enough volume in most of the local patterns for me to use that ball for more than a game at a time. I have better luck with symmetrical solids overall.
I’d watch every new ball video with this format no doubt!
This format is a must for all new ball reviews. Love it.
Thanks
Love!!! Love!!! LOVE, this format! A Race to 12, this is definitely a keeper format. You gave us the specs and info needed upfront and got straight to the good part.
Really loved the fact that we got to see it from both a righty and a lefty's stance. We got to see a little transition, a little break down, and the moves you guys made to compensate, for both sides.
Definitely keep this format.
Thanks for letting us know
Ron, you mentioned “change his layout because it’s so forward for him” Would you plug and redrill? What are the pros and cons? This type of content interests me. Thank you for all your contributions.
This format is AWESOME!! Being able to see how the ball reacts when making adjustments is great information. Personally, I would enjoy more talk about the layouts, mass bias, and surface of the ball, to better understand the motion.
Very cool format Ron. I know I for one am enjoying this format and all the new stuff as well very informative and entertaining. That 3.0 hits hard!
Glad you enjoyed it
I definitely love this format. A ball layout video detailing what pin distances to have that relate to different reactions would be extremely beneficial! 👍🏽
I really like the format with missed shots and talking through the adjustments. Having different styles helps as well. It was interesting seeing the ball reaction with the higher rev rate. That has been my experience with Asyms and particularly Hammer, but now that I'm learning more about layouts, I think my hate for asyms has to do with how they have been laied out for me. Keep up the great work.
Yes, it is interesting to see how rev rate impacts the ball performance.
Really cool take, love this type of video. Learned some things about my game and ball reaction.
Enjoyed this tremendously. It was nice seeing competition plus learning some differences in strategy and reaction. Keep doing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best format I’ve seen for a ball review. Would love to see more of this
Truly a great video Ron! I am about to pull the trigger on BW 3.0 and I am a lefty with a 350 revrate, so this content is EXACTLY what I was looking for. As always, your feedback is awesome! It's been a while since I have had an asymm ball drilled, so my PSO will definitely need to run some numbers.
Love the format awesome review 👏
Much appreciated!
Great format. Love this channel either way.
Thanks for watching
Like the new format
Thanks
I like the format 👍🏻, Thank you
Glad to hear it!
The format along with the information that you gave me is great. The Mortal Kombat reference was hilarious. keep up the good work.🤙🏿🤙🏿💯💯
Thanks! Will do!
Guys... this video is one of the only ones I've viewed that useS language I can relate to and understand... THANKS!!
Thanks for watching
You mentioned increasing the pin distance on the layout to reduce how forward it is. This great knowledge, as one of my struggles with low tilt, high speed, high rev is forward roll.
Glad to help
I like seeing 2 different bowlers with different layouts and rev rates. Showing the misses is good as well.
Thanks for the feedback
I like this. I can see different bowlers throw the same ball
Yep just ordered black widown3.0, low speed lower revs, looking forward to throwing this
Great demonstration and review
Loved the format. Wished I could get a camera shot of the release from floor view.
This was fun. Look forward to seeing more. Would love to see you do a match against BrunsNick or Charles from The Hype.
this a great format to see the ball reaction more
Glad you like it
I can’t wait to get mine drilled
Just got the 2.0 hybrid it’s a great compliment to my gem currently have those also a new blue hammer an orange vibe and a used web
This is a nice format. However I think Ron had the advantage from the jump. Ron was bowling on the lane that has more friction due to the make up of the SPL. The left lane is faster than the right. I would like to see this format again but switching at the halfway point…. 12 strikes (first to 6) then switch just so you can see the ball reaction from the same player on two different lane surfaces.
We can incorporate the lane switch. We may have to set the cameras up in a different position
Great vid, love the format and the discussion of what your seeing the ball do. Good to get perspective from 2 diff rev rate bowlers also. Curious on your axis tilt also to try and compare to my style
I truly enjoyed that. I think that setup will be nice from me and my homies as well. Great Shooting Guys
I love love love the 3.0. It has majorly improved my game
being a lefty myself this format is really helpful to really see where another lefty is putting the ball. my layouts are a 4x4x2 or a 4x4x3 which would you prefer for this ball
I do like this format.Its interesting to see the higher rev vs "normal" rev rate
This format is great.
Thanks for letting us know
Finally!! I get to see real ball reactions and misses. so tired of seeing crankers and 2 handers with 450+ rev rates, and edits to show only strikes. Im an older bowler with bad shoulders, rev rate about 350-375, need a ball that can make the turn and finish. I would like to know what the THS pattern is though?? I had an OG 16# Black Widow back in the day. I think this video just sold me a new one.
I like this format alot!!
Thanks for watching
This is needed!! Hi nd med rev rates , shows us a better look at the ball thank you ♻️
I have the 3.0 and have an extremely low rev rate. The comes back if I get it too far outside and hit seems to hold if it goes inside. Just bought one for my wife and she loves the ball
I like the format. I would love to see the SPECTO on the shots afterwards.
We definitely can add some Specto on lane data
Like the format
Like the format. Did you try out the perfect mindset and if so what are your thoughts on it?
Great format.
Thanks for info on your pap needs to adjust according dif plus angle.. Many proshop or driller wouldn't know.. Do more..
Really like the 12 shots as well ! Helps to see the ball motion what was the surfaces to start ?
2000 grit
Great video!!! What’s your opinion on the extreme envy ball
I think the Extreme Envy is earlier with more total hook
I just bought this widow 3.0 used it last night league i have a low rev rate on house shot i was playing too straight probably should throw at a angle
how often do you need to re sand (surface) the Hammer Black Widow 3.0 Bowling Ball?
Every 3 to 6 games
Any possible way to see this on different patterns short/ long heavy as well ?
That is possible for future content
"Brooklyn's don't count" 😆 Lol, whole other level.
Would u recommend this ball for a 15 mph player
It would depend on the rev rate
@@CtdbowlingI'm 12.5mph through the pins and big hands for a high rev rate. 70x5x30 works well. I'm loving mine, especially being my first 14lb ball.
Love the 3.0 AWESOME POWER
I really enjoyed this format. I bowled youth league back in the 70's and early 80's, I can't believe the changes to the sport have gotten so other worldly. What would you recommend, ball wise, for me getting back into the sport after all these years?
Start with a known good ball. Storm iQ Tour, Hammer Envy Tour or Motiv Venom Shock
It would have been even better when switching lanes
Nice format
I enjoyed this both 👍🏿👍🏿 up for me.
Glad you enjoyed it
How come ur wearing the old TW gear? I figured you would have VIP treatment.
Sun Day Red next?
I wonder if it'd be better for Chris if his ball is drilled differently?
Great video! Not easy to beat Chris to 12
You got that right, he's really good.
His game is similar to mine. Like watching him
Excellent
Love the Format just add ball weights for the bowlers keep up the good work on videos
15# is what we always use for ball reviews.
I loved everything but the one thing I would say you guys should’ve done was after the first person made six you guys should’ve switched lanes due to the two different textures of the lane. We would’ve been able to see if Chris’s ball had a different reaction and yours aswell Ron. I feel like this would actually help out a lot, because a lot of people bowl on certain lanes having two different bowlers and two different lanes would’ve been the perfect execution in my opinion. As I know, his revs would’ve came off your lanes a little different than the slick China.😮😂
Format is good!
Also compare ball speed with rev rate.
Like the format. Ethos you would have won Chris
Use the 3.0 as a step down after the Extreme Envy. Great 1,2 on more volume.
Agreed
My apologies. You answered my question. It might be helpful if you guys show us the drill pattern.
I know. I need to learn the numbers. Lol🙃
Widow 3.0 or new evoke????
Widow
Is this Chris from Chicago, IL?
It is
2 questions
Is it on the spinner?
Why 500 1000 2000? Why not just 2000?
Those steps are what the factory put the ball through. Why not just 2000? Because they use Siaair pads and not TruCut which is also why it won’t scan at that surface.
I have a black widow 3. I like it as I can throw it harder.
I have that ball and I feel it needs speed to act right
Yea man. The way I throw it’s way too much hook
Yeah I like this video.
Can see it from a right-handed and a left-handed at the same time and looks like different lame topologies as well
love this format, but will not be buying this ball... not enough volume in most of the local patterns for me to use that ball for more than a game at a time. I have better luck with symmetrical solids overall.
Oddly.....had to change from 2000 to 1800 grit....full roller layout
Brooklyn's Don't Count Here 😂
Naw only real strikes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool video talk tech bowling ball