On carrier / Bryant furnaces like that. Pull the limit. Feel inside to the right and left. Those love to crack in the dimples of the heat exchanger and you can feel the cracks
Thanks for taking the time to check the video out! I had 4 furnaces and ac units plus 3 gas water heaters to check and verify operation. Leave me a comment below if you would have done differently.
we had an very old 2 family house remodeled for rentals the furnaces had no blower fans at all its was gravity type with large ducts we never seen it before and during tenant use of heating though winter it was very high gas bill ! i told landlord those need to be replace with blower type as gravity feed is sooo inefficent! we purchased 2 slightly new blower type furances and had someone delivered to the basement and next day someone just stole them right under our nose ….dang it
The last furnace around here the inspector would fail it return in the side, but I guess it’s code in your area. I’m a 49+ HVAC&R tech (mostly commercial refrigeration now) I’ve never known of “out of spec igniters” checking with an ohm meter only good or open. Under any circumstances that chimney needs a flue liner.
I have a very bad habit when I buy buildings unless it 2 years old or I say rest in peace and get high efficiency. And I stay with the same brand we have used the same furnace and air conditioner company for roughly 30 years the only time I did not that was when I bought a modular home biggest mistake of my life! You make great videos and do great work
@@HVACRSurvival our family have been property owners since 1953 we have proper care for your building gets good long term renters we don't let any appliances get over 10 years old and appliances and building get fully checked every 6 months
high efficiency. aka highly efficient at parting your money when it fails non stop or needs replaced again in short term. none of it will last long at all and for sure not 30+ years
@@throttlebottle5906 If you make money on the property, you can write a depreciation schedule on the asset such that it offsets profit on taxes. High efficiency makes great sense for business applications, so that you can claim the rebates, have lower operating expenses, an active parts supply chain that doesn't involve ebay, and depreciate the asset over the useful life, which you can set at shortly beyond the major component warranties.
I'm not surprised to see those furnaces in the condition they're in because that complex most likely has sat empty for a very long time and it's actually common to see that with similar buildings since most people want either houses or subsidized apartments to live in around this city. If you like Lennox stuff you would probably like my furnace which is a Concord 80% from the 90's and has been giving me issues for about two years now and is very annoying.. lol
This was a bar with 2 apt up stairs that just closed. So it had been used up till resent. I use to like Lennox when they were good but I don't classify Concord as a equal with Lennox, The Ducane and Air-Flow brand products are about as close to a clone as you can get minus the fancy features
That inspection camera seems pretty badass mate 👌 I like the fact that you're a tool nut like me , my colleagues take the piss at me so it makes me feel like less of a weirdo 😂
good job Rick. Talk about scams, I spent all kinds money on a new pair of glasses, junk, frames all bent and scratched up. will never spend that kind of money again on something like that.
Your totally right, when I see the price of frames in a eye store, I just laugh, how can I buy $20 reading glasses with a nice wire frame and spring loaded ear pieces. Total scam...$3500 and I had Lasix in 2005 but my eyes don't focus on small print starting in the last year or 2🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Rick great video! Funny that last furance you were working on I believe it's a comfort aire guh92a not a bad furance but the issues you were saying about it spot on. Thanks for making these really appreciate it keep it coming 👍
Nice 👍 the ducane you have now did you replace that for Carrier infinity if I remember correctly that was giving you a bunch of problems getting no tech support or was that not for your house
@@hvacr6000 nope is from 2007 I believe? The first one had a refer leak outside and ran for a long time without refer during the winter, they didn't have a low pressure switch on it so I wasn't happy when they didn't have a warranty compressor available, so I got a new outside unit thanks to there poor design, I haven't had a problem since.
Definitely learned something when watching your videos, truth be told I’ve only ever seen a gas furnace once (where I lived it’s mostly wood, reverse cycle or indoor gas heater) and I was trying to diagnose this Brivis unit. My uneducated conclusion was Indonesian geckos had shorted out the logic board 😂 After I fixed the “hailing master controller” issue on the thermostat. Cleaned the burners, checked the connections etc but deader then a dodo. Ah well it wasn’t needed anyway since it wasn’t cold.
@@HVACRSurvival They love Mitsubishi Heavy Industries units. I’ve had two dead outdoor units because they’ve shorted out the power supply boards. Unlike the two ancient R22 Daikin reverse cycle units I used to have that they could never kill. Dang pest they are, hopefully nothing lives in the States that can cause such destruction!
fyi u know flue pipe by hot water tank should not touch copper pipe! zinc plating and copper dont mix as it can cause dielectric corrosion just put something like an insulator between that …..
@@HVACRSurvival It's more efficient. If it was my choice I'd have an air to air heat pump and a tankless water heater. Gas boycott? Where I live in Wisconsin it doesn't get cold enough to even need supplemental heat.
I've been to Wisconsin at least 8 to 10 times and you get just as cold as we do in ohio, the only way you wouldn't need supplemental heat is if you're running a inverter system and don't want a backup plan if it fails.
@@HVACRSurvival Supplemental heat can be put in but it hasn't got colder than -22 F in a long time. If you are going to have AC might as well use a heat pump, IMHO. I use to live in Ohio, just north of Cincy.
You can't run that single wall vent pipe unless you have 6" of clearance around any combustibles, including drywall. Everything you showed was complete system replacement. These people buying up these homes can afford it and should for the safety of their families.
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Holy smokes. That flue pipe ! That’s the kind of thing that keeps me up at night
Those are all valid concerns. I feel the same way.
Gotta love the renter owner situations.. you advise to change and they ask can we do anything else to keep it going? Lol
I try to help them if I can but if its time then its time,
On carrier / Bryant furnaces like that. Pull the limit. Feel inside to the right and left. Those love to crack in the dimples of the heat exchanger and you can feel the cracks
Sounds like good advice to me!
Thanks for taking the time to check the video out! I had 4 furnaces and ac units plus 3 gas water heaters to check and verify operation. Leave me a comment below if you would have done differently.
its that one near wall before flue pipe passes though wall
I’d done same thing
Yes I would of done it very differently. I would have got in my truck and drove the fluck out of there as quick as possible.
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I'm not a heating engineer just a user of these things. I most definitely like your can-do attitude.
try using one of the old smoke charges to check the exchanger, or the canned smoke for fire detectors.
we had an very old 2 family house remodeled for rentals the furnaces had no blower fans at all its was gravity type with large ducts we never seen it before and during tenant use of heating though winter it was very high gas bill ! i told landlord those need to be replace with blower type as gravity feed is sooo inefficent! we purchased 2 slightly new blower type furances and had someone delivered to the basement and next day someone just stole them right under our nose ….dang it
Now that's a service call ... Nice neat job Rick ... Thx for sharing ...
You betcha🤟👍👍
80% units, remove the blower and crawl in. Super easy way to get a look at the heat exchanger.
Good advice👍 thanks for the feedback!
Thanks Rick. Good one. 👍
That is real life !
Thanks for the video.
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Stay safe.
Retired (werk'n)keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses !
Take it Easy Eassyheat! Thanks for checking it out!
The last furnace around here the inspector would fail it return in the side, but I guess it’s code in your area.
I’m a 49+ HVAC&R tech (mostly commercial refrigeration now) I’ve never known of “out of spec igniters” checking with an ohm meter only good or open.
Under any circumstances that chimney needs a flue liner.
I have a very bad habit when I buy buildings unless it 2 years old or I say rest in peace and get high efficiency. And I stay with the same brand we have used the same furnace and air conditioner company for roughly 30 years the only time I did not that was when I bought a modular home biggest mistake of my life! You make great videos and do great work
Thanks for your feedback! Are you a investor or in the field?
@@HVACRSurvival our family have been property owners since 1953 we have proper care for your building gets good long term renters we don't let any appliances get over 10 years old and appliances and building get fully checked every 6 months
high efficiency. aka highly efficient at parting your money when it fails non stop or needs replaced again in short term. none of it will last long at all and for sure not 30+ years
@@throttlebottle5906 If you make money on the property, you can write a depreciation schedule on the asset such that it offsets profit on taxes.
High efficiency makes great sense for business applications, so that you can claim the rebates, have lower operating expenses, an active parts supply chain that doesn't involve ebay, and depreciate the asset over the useful life, which you can set at shortly beyond the major component warranties.
Good one Rick 👍, I would definitely change that furnace out,have a good one
Thanks Man! You have a great one as well!
Lot of work there. Hopefully you were able to replace at least two or three of the units I saw.
I believe we did.
just ordered that camera, nice tool chummy
I had a wireless version that was always dead and took forever to connect. This one has been great.
@@HVACRSurvival I always run into leaking minisplit coils and usually use my camera to check the backside this will make it much easier
With those units, I tend to find a shit load of cracks behind the limit switch on the fire wall.
Thanks for sharing!
sell and install multiple CO alarms. there I fixed it :))
oh, soot in the burners themselves. low gas pressure or lack of air/downdraft perhaps. CO 's would have been screaming I'm sure.
Lol I go to a house one time and the homeowner was putting steel wool on the rollout switch and he told me he was cleaning the flame sensor
God bless them 🙏 🤣🤣...job security at its best
Why is that fan cap so damn high that can’t be the original cap!! 😱
I'm not surprised to see those furnaces in the condition they're in because that complex most likely has sat empty for a very long time and it's actually common to see that with similar buildings since most people want either houses or subsidized apartments to live in around this city. If you like Lennox stuff you would probably like my furnace which is a Concord 80% from the 90's and has been giving me issues for about two years now and is very annoying.. lol
This was a bar with 2 apt up stairs that just closed. So it had been used up till resent. I use to like Lennox when they were good but I don't classify Concord as a equal with Lennox, The Ducane and Air-Flow brand products are about as close to a clone as you can get minus the fancy features
or has been occupied with meth labs non stop 😉
That inspection camera seems pretty badass mate 👌
I like the fact that you're a tool nut like me , my colleagues take the piss at me so it makes me feel like less of a weirdo 😂
Hell, We like nice things, tell the colleague's to🖕😇
I'd guess bad roofers and lack of maintenance ate up the flu pipe. also long length of single wall in attic and above roofline.
Hey Rick that union in the cabinet that's not code with certain gas companies in my area of PA.
It's not in are area either I believe.
One old swedish proverb comes to mind when watching this. The translation would be something like. "Lay a linen cloth on a turd"
Now that's funny!
Do you see more package or more split systems in residential applications? Seems more commercial buildings have package units based on your videos.
Residential is usually split systems and some mini splits, commercial can also have residential equipment but it's mainly packaged units.
good job Rick. Talk about scams, I spent all kinds money on a new pair of glasses, junk, frames all bent and scratched up. will never spend that kind of money again on something like that.
Your totally right, when I see the price of frames in a eye store, I just laugh, how can I buy $20 reading glasses with a nice wire frame and spring loaded ear pieces. Total scam...$3500 and I had Lasix in 2005 but my eyes don't focus on small print starting in the last year or 2🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@HVACRSurvival sorry that's happening with your eyes, I value my vision very much, because if I can't see I can't work, and other things.
Thanks man but with cheaters I'm ok, I'm 46 so it was bound to happen
@@HVACRSurvival lol wait til u hit 60 !
@@HVACRSurvival old fart! ( by about a year) :))
Rick great video! Funny that last furance you were working on I believe it's a comfort aire guh92a not a bad furance but the issues you were saying about it spot on. Thanks for making these really appreciate it keep it coming 👍
That was a Ducane. That's the brand heatpump I personally have and the brand I use for my side ventures
Nice 👍 the ducane you have now did you replace that for Carrier infinity if I remember correctly that was giving you a bunch of problems getting no tech support or was that not for your house
@@hvacr6000 nope is from 2007 I believe? The first one had a refer leak outside and ran for a long time without refer during the winter, they didn't have a low pressure switch on it so I wasn't happy when they didn't have a warranty compressor available, so I got a new outside unit thanks to there poor design, I haven't had a problem since.
What a pain glad to hear it went well 👍
Well done Rick!
Thanks buddy! Have a great weekend!!!
That a-coil isn’t gonna do shit without the end plates on.
Does that camera also work with the apps? I have to upload all my pics to our dispatching software
The Flir camera is wifi but the inspection camera has a SD card.
What inspection camera is that?
You're as bad as the rest of them, it's in the description🤦♂️😅🤣🤣🤣 there's a direct link to it 😇
Is it normal for a furnace to pull return air from the same room as a single pipe furnace in your area? (Last furnace in Video)
Not mention the natural draft water heaters.
It depends on how many square feet of free air they have. If its a small room then no, it will need to bring in combustion air.
@@HVACRSurvival Thanks
This is a mess but big picture diagnosis and the customer needs your help we in a crisis
Very true my man🤜🤛👍👍
Definitely learned something when watching your videos, truth be told I’ve only ever seen a gas furnace once (where I lived it’s mostly wood, reverse cycle or indoor gas heater) and I was trying to diagnose this Brivis unit. My uneducated conclusion was Indonesian geckos had shorted out the logic board 😂 After I fixed the “hailing master controller” issue on the thermostat. Cleaned the burners, checked the connections etc but deader then a dodo. Ah well it wasn’t needed anyway since it wasn’t cold.
That's quite the story, thankfully the geckos didn't cause a the problem. 👍👍🎬
@@HVACRSurvival They love Mitsubishi Heavy Industries units. I’ve had two dead outdoor units because they’ve shorted out the power supply boards. Unlike the two ancient R22 Daikin reverse cycle units I used to have that they could never kill. Dang pest they are, hopefully nothing lives in the States that can cause such destruction!
Was the last furnace a concord
Ducane
Rusted furnace fan? AC leaking, water in the exhaust pipe draining back?
Fix problem and replace with a new one !
That's exactly what he did👍👍
Good video 👍
Thanks Jeff🤜🤛👍👍
fyi u know flue pipe by hot water tank should not touch copper pipe! zinc plating and copper dont mix as it can cause dielectric corrosion just put something like an insulator between that …..
Why the sq tubes to the pressure switches...anybody ?
less likely to kink/collapse/fold if bent too sharply.
Exactly was TB said👍
If they end up ripping it out it would be wise to switch to a heat pump system.
🤣😂 why's that? Because of all this BS gas boycott the Democrats keep pushing?
@@HVACRSurvival It's more efficient. If it was my choice I'd have an air to air heat pump and a tankless water heater. Gas boycott? Where I live in Wisconsin it doesn't get cold enough to even need supplemental heat.
I've been to Wisconsin at least 8 to 10 times and you get just as cold as we do in ohio, the only way you wouldn't need supplemental heat is if you're running a inverter system and don't want a backup plan if it fails.
@@HVACRSurvival Supplemental heat can be put in but it hasn't got colder than -22 F in a long time. If you are going to have AC might as well use a heat pump, IMHO. I use to live in Ohio, just north of Cincy.
What brand and model are you using? Mine doesn't do well past 20-25*
Don't you tag it 🤔🇨🇦
I'm not the gas company and the customer knows it's bad and is having it replaced. What's a little tag gonna do?
You can't run that single wall vent pipe unless you have 6" of clearance around any combustibles, including drywall. Everything you showed was complete system replacement. These people buying up these homes can afford it and should for the safety of their families.
I agree 💯%
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Nice watching that natural blue flame. Looks good. All we got here is propane, not as pretty.. lol. Keep them coming Rick
Propane is what I personally have at my house so I know what you mean.
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That building should be torn down - what a sh*thole.
I've seen a lot worse unfortunately.
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Thanks bud!
Replace not repair. Typical.
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Building inspectors dont know their ass from their elbows. Never hire home inspectors. Hire the trades you have concerns about
Junk¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!