GoPro Hero 12 vs DJI OSMO Action 4 | Underwater comparison 😱
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- GoPro Hero 12 or DJI OSMO Action 4? Which of these state of the art action cameras is the better choice for filming underwater? Let's talk about this...
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Which action cam do you prefer for filming underwater? The GoPro Hero 12 or the DJs OSMO Action 4?
the one i know how to setup and use 😉
DJI Osmo Action 4 since it has the automatic color temperature filter is a life savior as it perfectly adjusts the white balance. I think this is a big advantage over GoPro cameras.
I have used a Gopro for many years. From version 3 to version 11. Now I have not upgraded to ver. 12, but I switched to the DJI Action 4. I personally like the image quality of the Action 4 better, the larger sensor, better results in reduced visibility and the simplicity of the settings. It also doesn't get as hot when placed in an underwater case.
I enjoyed your LUT's, thank you for them.
Thank your for sharing your thoughts with uns and glad you enjoyed my LUTs. Which ones did you get? The GoPro Basic LUT pack?
This is the video I’ve been looking for! Thanks. Can you do a video on your Action 4 setup? I’m interested in getting a tray and single Sola video light (also for a primary dive light)
Sure, I'll put it on the list of future videos to make. 😉 Thanks for the input. 🙏🏻
I was so impressed with the Action 4, with this summer`s diving, my GoPro´s are out and also my DJI Pocket 2 as standby filming units.
This will really help many underwater videographers out there with there future choice. Thanks Matthias best to you.
Thank you for your feedback and your kind words John. I really hope this helps potential buyers make the right choice for their needs and wishes. 😊
please review to the quality for shooting underwater
macros
Great video! The reason the GoPro looks so green is because the AWB is trying to pull the extra amount of red down from the filter by compensating with the addition of green. I'd imagine you would see better results with a manually selected white balance temperature. I'm very impressed with the look of the Osmo 4, it looks incredible!
I agree, the Osmo Action 4 has really impressed me too.
Setting manual WB temperatures is really a tricky thing underwater as you will need to adjust that setting the deeper down you go. And on a GoPro you can only do that by creating several presets with different color temperatures and changing constantly as you depth changes throughout your dive. Definitely doable but not very convenient or user friendly. Being able to rely on a well working auto WB would be much nicer. 😉
Matthais, another very helpful video. I am indeed deciding on which of these to use. Can you share your thoughts on potential for Osmo performance in green water? Pacific coast of US will be most of my use. Given your WB setting of choice, might you expect this same comparison to change much in green water? (This does then beg the question, would you use the underwater WB setting or AWB in green water, say on a dive under 20m? No flip filter for the Osmo, as you said).
I haven't tried the Osmo Action in green water yet, but I don't think my comparison findings will be much different. The Osmo Action 4 (to my knowledge) does not have an underwater WB, so I would use the regular AWB.
Thanks for making this video. I’ve had a lot of reliability issues with my hero8 and was reticent to get another GoPro. I think I may give the Osmo a try instead.
Glad it helped!
Hallo Matthias, wieder einmal ein gutes, schönes Video was bestimmt bei der Entscheidung GoPro 12 oder DJI Osmo Action 4 helfen kann. Ich werde nächstes Jahr mal die Osmo 4 in Ägypten probieren. Mal sehen wie die Aufnahmen werden. Viele Grüße 🙂
Vielen Dank für dein Feedback und ich wünsche viel Spass in Ägypten. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher die Osmo Action 4 wird dich nicht enttäuschen. Für mich definitive die bessere Wahl als die GoPro.
Very important question: at what depths was this filmed? Do you recommend a red filter at all for the Osmo Action (for example, the Keldan foil filters).
OK, sehe gerade, Du sprichst Deutsch. Würde mich wirklich interessieren, welche Tiefe das war. Und: Hast Du bei der Osmo Action irgendwelche Probleme mit WB-Shifts während eines Takes gehabt? Ich bin bei Auto-WB immer sehr, sehr skeptisch, weil ich mit Go Pros trotz Rotfilter nie gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht habe. Plötzlich wird aus dem Blau ein Grün und solche Sachen. Natürlich trotz Backscatter. Deshalb lief das bei mir über Jahre nur auf "Native". Bei der Osmo Action hatte ich vor, diese auf einer fixen Farbtemperatur laufen zu lassen.
Which firmware was running on the GoPro Hero 12? They recently released a new firmware which fixed a lot of issues with GP-log.
I had the current firmware running at the time of filming (end of October 2023 - Version 01.12.00)
Thanks for the video. If you have time it would be very helpful to see a comparison of Action 4 vs iPhone.
Thanks for your comment. I don’t think that’s such a fair comparison as one is an action cam and the other one is a lot more versatile in its applications. What would you be most interested in comparing those two cameras in?
@@MatthiasLebo I've seen a lot of really excellent footage from iPhones but I'm not an Apple user and I don't really need an iPhone. I'm deciding between buying an older generation iPhone and an Action 4.
Hi Matthias, did you have any fogging issues in the dive cases with the DJI? If so, how did you resolve it?
Nope, no fogging issues at all. The Osmo action 4 actually doesn’t get that hot.
Just direct some scuba tank air into the housing and catch the dry air in the housing, then you wont get any fogging.
Thanks! How about compared to Insta360 One R 1 inch sensor?
If I had one at hand I would happily make such a comparison 😉
How would you compare things like usability and bugs? For many of us that aren't pros or primarily upload to social media, the difference between the 2 video qualities is negligible and perhaps the gopro has a slight edge with it's large amount of easily available accessories (as you demonstrate with the lack of the red filter for the osmo). For me what would really put the osmo in front would be reliability and not freezing or needing the battery reinstalling to work normally (as gopros, in my experience, seem to do occasionally).
The DJI does not need a red filter as it has a dedicated white balance sensor in the front in the letter "O". Thus the results were better even without a red filter.
Thanks for that inside. I wasn't aware of that. DJI is not really marketing this feature. I wonder why? Do you by any chance know how this white balance sensor works? What parameters does it use to determine the accurate white balance?
Well, I simply didn't have enough time in the water with those two cameras on my recent trip to make competent statements about those topics. I hope I get some more experience using both action cams on my upcoming trip to the Maldives, being able to answer some of those questions after the trip. Generally speaking the handling is pretty much the same with both. What I noticed though was that the Osmo Action has a much longer lasting battery life than the GoPro. That in my opinion could be a big plus for many of us underwater users.
Thanks. I guess you really need months or more for any issues to show themselves and really see the differences. I look forward to hearing about them when you've had more experience.
Hello, did you recognize strong colour shiftings with the AWB of the Osmo 4 ? Thats also something really annyoing talking about the GoPro models and its a pain in the a** to correct. Also the Dive+ App can't handle that and just makes is worse.
Yeah, it does shift, since you can’t lock the AWB while recording. It’s not as dramatic as on the GoPro models, but still noticeable unfortunately.
did you run into any issues with either of the cameras overheating and shutting down?
No, none of them overheated, but the GoPro got much hotter than the Osmo Action 4.
What about the close focus capability? I heard that close subjects are not sharp with DJI Osmo, which is due to the larger sensor size (and that the focus is set further away to have sharp infinity).
Well to be honest, none of these two action cams is really capable of recording close focus imagery unless you use extra accessories. I haven't tested the minimal focusing distance of each of the cameras, but I would personally not try to record and close up shots with them anyways. Both of them are simply not made for that type of footage.
Have you tried the backscatter macro accessory?
@@MatthiasLebo I don't really aim macro but a sharp close-up with light would be great opportunity to film coral heads. GoPro12 and DJI Osmo 4 has the minimum focus distance of 30 and 40 cm, respectively. None of them is really good.
Great video as usual. 👌I opted recently for the go pro, purely for the accessories available plus backscatter have now released a really good looking dome port for it.
Thanks buddy. I understand that fully. Let's see how long the GoPro accessories will be ahead of the Osmo Action 4 accessories. I can imagine DJI as well as third parties releasing more accessories for the Action 4 as it gets more popular among users.
True, the new Dome lens from Backscatter looks nice. A bit too oversized if you're asking me. 😉
I have the Backscatter dome lens . Yes big covers up the front facing screen which I used for selfies . Brings the image closer sharper image.wider field of view . But not cheap especially if you don’t live in the US import tax
Agree, the DJI does look a smidge better… for my amateur clips this doesn’t outweigh the benefit of almost everyone on the boat right now having a GoPro (borrow batteries, try accessories etc) but I suspect this will be my last one. GoPro isn’t moving forward much with each release and they aren’t prioritizing underwater.
Fully understand where you're coming from. Accessories are a lot more available for the GoPro system than for the Osmo Action system. But this might change in the future as more and more divers adapt and change to the Osmo Action cameras. I'm one of them.
Question. I too feel that the Osmo Action 4 is better compared to both.
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However, when the Osmo Action 4 is shooting with a wide angle of view, even with the stock housing, I see aberrations in the peripheral image and feel that the image quality is degraded.
Do you have any thoughts on this?
Thanks.
I'm not into editing so what camera would be best? Hero 4 action 4 or the insta 360 ace pro?
If I wasn't going to do any post production, I would personally go for the Osmo Action 4. I find it gives you the best looking footage straight out of camera.
@@MatthiasLebo thank you.
interesting to see how the action 4 compare's to the Insta 360 pro, i have just got a action 4.
Insta360 Ace Pro review is dropping this coming Tuesday. And a comparison between Ace Pro, Osmo Action 4 and GoPro Hero 12 will follow soon.
I have only just now read this about
the osmo action 4 when scuba
diving."When diving below 16 meters
with the Osmo Action 4 and the Scuba
Diving mode activates due to pressure,
the usual shutter/record button is
disabled. In this case, you'll use the
Quick Switch (QS) button to start
and stop recording. The QS button is
designed to work under high-pressure
conditions, allowing you to control
recording without relying on the
shutter/record button. So, even deep
underwater, the QS button becomes
your main control for starting and
stopping video recording".So this
button becomes a universal button
to power on, select video or photo,
then take a picture or start shooting a
video. I checked the DJI manual and it
doesnt clearly say how this is achieved.
I checked with dji support and they said you need to decide wether you will be taking photos or videos past 16 meters before the pressure cutoff kicks in.Then you can only use the camera as a start and stop. You cant play back videos on a dive or scroll to other presets to bracket different fstops and iso settings etc.
Use your LUT. Do you still need to use the red filter? I am using GOPRO
Preferable yes. The better your image looks that you start with, the better the end result is going to look. LUTs can’t do magic, but they can quite easily enhance the existing footage. Hope that helps?
Great video! Why did you set sharpness to low on the gopro? wouldn't you want more detail?
More sharpness doesn’t necessarily mean more detail. Detail comes mainly from resolution. Too much sharpness quickly makes your footage look digital, and that really isn’t a good thing. I always keep sharpness at low and add sharpness in post production manually. Gives me just much more control on how much sharpness I want to add for best results.
For us divers, the automatic color temperature filter is a lifesaver as it perfectly adjusts the white balance. I think this is a big advantage over GoPro cameras.
I agree, the colors coming from the Osmo Action 4 look much nicer than from the GoPro Hero 12.
Hey guys. Just about to use my Action 4 for the first time under water. Mostly for snorkeling.
I have purchased a Red and a Pink filter. What I dont get is, why everyone saying that D LOG is the way.
What I see here and everytime I have turned that thing On is that the colours are like freakin washed out. I dont want to post post process is to make it look more nicer and to have more color on the picture. Is it may be only good when u want to do post orocessing? I want the colours to be nice and record as it is what I see. Or closely.
What do you think? It s okay there is a auto white bakance etc. But to have more accurate colours it may need the filter. I will only edit the video with without post processing. Using DJI Mimo.
Thanks
The new insta360 Ace pro is out and it promises better low light performance… it’s time for a new comparison 😉
Looks like it. 😉
Couldn’t agree more 👍
I think i prefer the DJI footage. I wonder how the DJI would compare to the new Ace Pro from Insta360
I would love to test the new Ace Pro from Insta360. Just need to find someone who will send me the camera. 😉
I’m surprised that they haven’t!
The Ace pro is only 8 bit at present, so i bought a DJI 4
Nice comparison👍, in my opinion Osmo Action WB do better startpoint for next color grading than gopro, and as I see new gopro gp-log profile makes underwater footage much more noise mainly in dark areas compared to flat profile with medium sharpness. I was thinking before to upgrade from gopro 11 to 12 only due to new gp-log profile but after this comparison I would not use gp-log for underwater footage perhaps It can be helpful only with diving lights and setting max ISO to 200 and fps to 60. Thanks Matthias for saving my money😊
I have contacted DJI, to ask for a full technical description of the functionality of the light sensor on the action 4, reply was in effect its confidential. The camera does still operate AWB with the sensor covered.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing this with us. 🙏🏻
Studio batka bakbas korana sa kya fyada. Pani utarka dekhaiya. Waterproof kitna kam karta hai.
Nice one 🤿
Thanks buddy 🙏🏻 How are you doing by the way?
@@MatthiasLebo All good, work keeps me busy now, hopefull getting soon back to underwater filming again.. in warm waters ☺
how are you?. love it~you shared incredible ! catch ya later~ Matthias!))
wrong settings, wrong results... gopro films better in natural, not auto, at least underwater. And of course the auto would not work good with red filter...newer gopros don't need red filter. or at least you do it with footage you won't grade.
Have you actually try the action4 yourself?
@@mr_santaclauss2840 no, but don't see why i need to have used it in order to point out the wrong settings on the gopro used in the comparison. After all how would you compare two things if one is not properly configured, you are doing a biased thing. I have used the gopro extensively underwater and the results with 12 are not good to say the least and it is pretty clear why. but i guess it does not matter as long one has used the action4 😉😁😁
Thanks for the comment, things I had thought about too. What do you mean by "natural", are you referring to color mode? and by "auto", are you referring to white balance? What mode do you use with the 12?
@@steve66gas with the 11 always used natural or flat, mostly flat for color grading afterwards with auto white balance. it is easier for editing afterward. with the 12 log all the way or hdr when i don't plan to edit. but for underwater video it should be log which will give best results in my opinion, unfortunately could not try it out yet, and from what i see they are still tweaking it. so in couple of months results will be totally different. hence i wouldn't consider seriously this video...
@@SvetoslavBonev thanks for the explanation. However, last month I had a terrible experience using the GP12 in Log mode: underwater videos are full of artefacts and noise. Very very bad! Now I know that with the new update that just came out they improved the log, but I won't risk it anymore...
I've bought a Osmo 4 to take to red sea in 2 weeks time. I've had to make my own flip holder to hold a macro lens. its a shame I cant buy any of the new Inon lenses for it. Ill have to make do with a Inon UCL-165. It can be used with Osmo in wide setting, or Dewarp Wide using video. Then I can focus at 16 cm, instead of 40cm .
That is quite an improvement in minimal focusing distance. Well done. 👍