An ancient Greek saying came to mind watching this: "A society grows great when old men plant trees they know the shade of which they will never enjoy." You're a gentleman Tubalcain. Nice video!
I chuckled @6:24"or, should I pass away and never get it done, at the auction they will have all the parts" -- simultaneously the most morbid and most considerate thing I've heard in awhile!
Thanks for this video, I've owned a few Southbend 9A's and am going to pick up a Logan 210 this weekend and it's in a basement. This was just what I needed to see. My plan was to pull it all apart, and it's always nice to see how to do it. The headstock part was especially helpful. Thanks again!
Excellent tutorial Mr Pete, but who would have thought there could be so much crud under the headstock. Tip of the day dont use compressed air to clean a lathe.
Boy, should I ever have done this when my friend and I moved my new Grizzly G0752 lathe upstairs. We almost killed ourselves. If I ever move it back down, it's coming completely apart!!!
I sure wish you were my next door neighbor! I would bring CNC into the party on one of your old 'tank' lathes then we would make many chips and share old stories for years to come! Thanks for all the videos and commentaries!
Ah Peter, why didn't I watch this video years ago! I am waiting for corrective back surgery as I compressed L4 & L5 lifting/ moving my lathe by my self! Education alone does not make us wise! Watching your videos certainly helps!
As previously stated...invaluable information...as a beginner, just hound an Atlas 10-inch lathe for sale locally but I would have to move it out of his basement....your instruction gives me the confidence that I can get this moved to my basement. Just the shot I needed. Thank yo very much. REGARDS.
I picked up a Logan 820 in great shape today for $300. It was in a place that was hard to get to and I didn't have any help. I watched this video last night a couple of times and it was invaluable in helping to disassemble the lathe today. Took me just about an hour and a half to get it all taken a part. Thanks for the great video!
Mr. Pete. Your videos are a hoot! I love them. I'm 65 and a retired mechanical engineer. I spent the first years of my career as an apprentice tool & die maker, then worked for 10 more years as a machinist / tool maker while going to night school to get an engineering degree. My dad is just like you. He loves old machinery. He was also a machinist, and then an engineer, for American Can. We have a bunch of machinery like a Tree Tool Room Mill and Cincinnati HydroShift Lathe among a bunch of other "stuff". I absolutely love your video's. Thanks so much!
I have watched a lot of your videos, and like them very much. I found one of these lathes today, and was just going to take it apart the best I could. Your video saved me a ton of time, and effort for sure. I really liked the part about carrying it with a pipe. That was great. Anyway, thanks a lot, I am retired and trying to start a small part machining business for hotrods. Tom
Also, I'd love to see a video series of you cleaning up this lathe, giving it a nice paint job and dialing it in as true as it will go. I'm dreaming of buying an old lathe and doing the same, it would be cool to have a road map.
Someplace in the video you say that the HEADSTOCK will allign when mounted again. It seems that only FLAT faces are involved in the mounting. Sorry for my incorrect words, but I'm danish and that's smhing you eat - you know, so it's hard to express while you'r eating ha, ha,.... I had very big problems with headstock alignment on my old STANKO - kelds.weebly.com/mine-maskiner.html ... 4. picture down the site - till I found the allignment screws - buried behind shields and and a lot of dirt !
I watched this a months ago because it's interesting and based on your many other videos. Now I find myself watching this again because my aunt's father has one of these beauties in his basement and no one else wants or can take it. There is also an old small mill and a few hundred pounds of tooling. It's both my greatest joy and greatest challenge to fit these in my already packed garage shop.
,,, looks to be in good condition,, and,,,, i'm not rushing you, but put my name on the mailing list, i'll be at your auction sale,,,, as always I enjoyed the show,,
I loved your touch of brutal reality but it sure says a lot about a man when he is considerate to even the vultures who are going to pick over his stuff. As someone else asked, would you be willing to show us how you go about cleaning a lathe up please? Best Wishes, Brendan.
Thank you Mr. Pete. Great video. Now I can start looking for a larger lathe (much to my wife's chagrin). I will have the know how to get apart and into the basement. BTW I like the pipe carry method for the bed. Let the purists bark. That's what they do....
Mr. Pete sir. I’ve done about 5 South Bend refurbs now, and thinking of doing a Logan next. I’ve typically sold the others off, but think I’m gonna keep the next one I do. Do you have a video that details the main differences and benefits between the South Bend and the Longan? They seem to be pretty comparable. But, like I said, I have no first hand experience with Logans.
No, there is no video as such. But if you watch a few of the Logan videos, you may get the idea. I sold both of my Logans Last year. I am thinning out the herd
Hi there Tubalcain.. I have had a Logan 955 for 3 years, in decently great shape.. I'm cleaning and rebuilding the apron but I seem to have a custom pull n hold lever for the clutch instead of a swing lever. Want to put it back to proper although somehow to me it looks like it was meant to be this way. I would love to exchange photos and maybe ask for help from your knowledge! Then the only thing other than a cleaning and lube, need to repair the back gear.. watched numerous of your videos and multiple times, anxious to get my machine going. :)
Never knew compressed air would do that. I'll have to strip mine as per your video and give it a good cleaning. Would you recommend a light coat of oil over everything? It seems if I don't, some days I'll come out to a light frosting of rust.
I have a model 1955 Logan Lathe, with a Drum brake on it that is rubbing... do you know of a schematic or instructional manual for this? its not in my parts list or my owners manual, is their a resource?
I just bought this exact lathe. I know nothing about metal lathes and I think the best way for me to learn how it all works is to take it apart and put it back together. I have the manual and this video is excellent. I'm going to go back on your channel and see if you have a video about separating the lathe from the base. Thank you!
A nice, safe move. As a very young man, I bought a lathe from a factory, where I used to work. The manager was a bulldog, kind of guy and rushed me to get the lathe moved, to make room for the new lathe's arrival. As a result, I didn't disassemble it enough to lighten the load to a safe weight to handle. I got hurt, moving that thing. I never let anyone rush me, moving machinery, after that. I would say, "either let me do it my (safe), way or I'll sit here and watch you do it yourself.
Your statement about how disassembling other lathes is similar is correct. I had to move a 9-inch SB lathe into my basement and it came apart almost in the same manner. Really liked the pipe idea, I strapped the bed to a hand cart but it was pretty awkward since its not bottom heavy when its standing up. Nice Video! Oh, yeah, love the classic Sanka Can.
See that pin at the left end of the lead screw, if you knocked that out, note it's tapered then removed the lead screw before disassembling the carriage. You could have made life a lot easier. Obviously you've never disassembled a lathe before, live and learn. :)
I'd probably use a pack or 2 of small ratchet straps counter opposed on each way to pull against each other, but yours looks real solid there.. Sanka, that has to be at least 80s vintage, I can barely remember it..
Thanks for another great lesson. Could you show us how to align a headstock later on?, I'm not sure if most hobbyists have a lot of measuring tools either, are there any tricks you could share with regard to the alignment of a headstock for re-assembly? - Also, are you the author of all those wonderful machinist books?
Tubalcain, have you given thought to making a video on proper leveling of the bed when you mount it in its new location? An opportune teaching moment if you have time for it. Really appreciate all your videos and look forward to each one. Great work teacher!
hay mr pete where can u buy petrobomd sand for casting i searched it but cant find anything aboult it thanks oh yeal i like ur shows keep up the good work
Hi mr pete 500grm Nescafé coffee still have metal cans BUT the lids are metal too in my tropical climate nothing stays rust free unless it's in a can of oil
I am most surprised how quickly you were able to do this. Do you also plan to separate the chip pan from the legs to make them easier to carry and move?
Lol I got one of these with the cabnet at an estate sale and boy was she a bitch to move. It was in a basement and I didn't want to take it apart so it took 4 of us to move the thing up the stairs and into a truck. Its in my garage and I cant see it moving anytime soon.
Do you know of anywhere to get a quick change gearbox for a logan/ powr kraft lathe? I emailed Scott Logan but i would prefer to pick something up second hand. Thanks, David
Dear Mr. Pete, another great video and by far you are the best shop teacher. I am faced with the daunting task of drilling three holes to mount a Logan 820 quick change gearbox onto a Ward lathe. I love American made lathes and it's great to see you explain the workings of them in your videos. They are historic pieces of our past and need to be preserved. Thanks so much for you bringing these to us in your videos.
I have some original sales material on the Logan 800, 900,& 200 series I can scan if wanted. Also, Logan Actuator Co is the most recent source for parts I have. Got my parts list from them. Art
Thanks-I would like those scans. Not sure I can show email on these comments. Go to this video, special ATLAS & SOUTH BEND LATHE Video Courses FOR SALE tubalcain. My email address is shown at 4:12. Thanks
I have a Logan 1875 10", and on that the apron+saddle can be taken off in one piece. The bottom of its apron is also an oil reservoir, so you have to drain the oil out first before removing, or you'll have an awful mess 😊
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An ancient Greek saying came to mind watching this: "A society grows great when old men plant trees they know the shade of which they will never enjoy."
You're a gentleman Tubalcain. Nice video!
lol, When MrPete does go to be with the Lord There will 1,000's of people beating a path to his widows door.
I chuckled @6:24"or, should I pass away and never get it done, at the auction they will have all the parts" -- simultaneously the most morbid and most considerate thing I've heard in awhile!
+SatansSpatula THANKS for watching
Thanks for this video, I've owned a few Southbend 9A's and am going to pick up a Logan 210 this weekend and it's in a basement. This was just what I needed to see. My plan was to pull it all apart, and it's always nice to see how to do it. The headstock part was especially helpful. Thanks again!
You'll like that logan.
Excellent tutorial Mr Pete, but who would have thought there could be so much crud under the headstock. Tip of the day dont use compressed air to clean a lathe.
Boy, should I ever have done this when my friend and I moved my new Grizzly G0752 lathe upstairs. We almost killed ourselves. If I ever move it back down, it's coming completely apart!!!
Its the only way to go. Thank you.
I am with everyone else. Can we see a Lathe restoration series. I am always looking for an old Heavy Ten on Craigslist to bring into my basement.
man cave just got better,,
Nice lathe i have the same one
I sure wish you were my next door neighbor! I would bring CNC into the party on one of your old 'tank' lathes then we would make many chips and share old stories for years to come! Thanks for all the videos and commentaries!
This is really fascinating. I am considering moving a lathe to my basement. The pipe idea is brilliant. Thank you for posting.
thanks
Ah Peter, why didn't I watch this video years ago! I am waiting for corrective back surgery as I compressed L4 & L5 lifting/ moving my lathe by my self! Education alone does not make us wise! Watching your videos certainly helps!
You are the best mr Pete... I love your videos!!! a big thank you from a machinist in Greece
As previously stated...invaluable information...as a beginner, just hound an Atlas 10-inch lathe for sale locally but I would have to move it out of his basement....your instruction gives me the confidence that I can get this moved to my basement. Just the shot I needed. Thank yo very much. REGARDS.
You are wlcome
Hahaha @13:38 still sounds like a teacher. Love it, very useful content.
Thank you for watching
I picked up a Logan 820 in great shape today for $300. It was in a place that was hard to get to and I didn't have any help. I watched this video last night a couple of times and it was invaluable in helping to disassemble the lathe today. Took me just about an hour and a half to get it all taken a part. Thanks for the great video!
+David Adams THANKS for watching
Replying to this, I bought this exact lathe today and I’m picking it up tomorrow. Also $325! Excited
A very good video on how to disassemble the lathe and the pipe for a handle is a another good Idea Thank You
I have several videos already on that subject. Search thru my videos.
As always a good watch
Mr. Pete. Your videos are a hoot! I love them. I'm 65 and a retired mechanical engineer. I spent the first years of my career as an apprentice tool & die maker, then worked for 10 more years as a machinist / tool maker while going to night school to get an engineering degree. My dad is just like you. He loves old machinery. He was also a machinist, and then an engineer, for American Can. We have a bunch of machinery like a Tree Tool Room Mill and Cincinnati HydroShift Lathe among a bunch of other "stuff". I absolutely love your video's. Thanks so much!
Thanks very much for watching. Bet you have a nice shop. I used a cin hydroshift lathe when I was young--great machine.
Hey... No more talk about that auction in the future...you have too many videos to complete!!
I have watched a lot of your videos, and like them very much. I found one of these lathes today, and was just going to take it apart the best I could. Your video saved me a ton of time, and effort for sure. I really liked the part about carrying it with a pipe. That was great. Anyway, thanks a lot, I am retired and trying to start a small part machining business for hotrods. Tom
+tommy thompson THANKS for watching
great information, I am going to move a lathe soon so this is very timely. also the rubber Maid cart works great in the shop, thank you
Modus operandi
That will require one of your road trips--this time to Illinois. Bring your trailer & checkbook.
Also, I'd love to see a video series of you cleaning up this lathe, giving it a nice paint job and dialing it in as true as it will go. I'm dreaming of buying an old lathe and doing the same, it would be cool to have a road map.
Someplace in the video you say that the HEADSTOCK will allign when mounted again. It seems that only FLAT faces are involved in the mounting. Sorry for my incorrect words, but I'm danish and that's smhing you eat - you know, so it's hard to express while you'r eating ha, ha,....
I had very big problems with headstock alignment on my old STANKO - kelds.weebly.com/mine-maskiner.html ... 4. picture down the site - till I found the allignment screws - buried behind shields and and a lot of dirt !
I watched this a months ago because it's interesting and based on your many other videos. Now I find myself watching this again because my aunt's father has one of these beauties in his basement and no one else wants or can take it. There is also an old small mill and a few hundred pounds of tooling. It's both my greatest joy and greatest challenge to fit these in my already packed garage shop.
Exceptionally handy Logan content to again review - Thank you
+John Strange Thanks
This was wonderful!
search . petrobondforsale
,,, looks to be in good condition,, and,,,, i'm not rushing you, but put my name on the mailing list, i'll be at your auction sale,,,, as always I enjoyed the show,,
About how much cost a old machine
$900
My Clausing is pinned.
I thought that the headstock would have some kind of dowel pins to set its position on the bed. Would that only be on larger or certain models?
modus operandi
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Modus operandi (plural modi operandi) is a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "method of operation".
she deserves respect ,well done sir !
7:05, Sanka!
Perfect timing! I just bought my first South Bend 9" and I need to get it in my basement too. Thank you very much. Great vid......
As always, an outstanding video. Thanks for sharing.
wish the bed on my logan was that nice, thnx mrpete
I loved your touch of brutal reality but it sure says a lot about a man when he is considerate to even the vultures who are going to pick over his stuff. As someone else asked, would you be willing to show us how you go about cleaning a lathe up please?
Best Wishes, Brendan.
Thank you Mr. Pete. Great video. Now I can start looking for a larger lathe (much to my wife's chagrin). I will have the know how to get apart and into the basement. BTW I like the pipe carry method for the bed. Let the purists bark. That's what they do....
Mr. Pete sir. I’ve done about 5 South Bend refurbs now, and thinking of doing a Logan next. I’ve typically sold the others off, but think I’m gonna keep the next one I do. Do you have a video that details the main differences and benefits between the South Bend and the Longan? They seem to be pretty comparable. But, like I said, I have no first hand experience with Logans.
No, there is no video as such. But if you watch a few of the Logan videos, you may get the idea. I sold both of my Logans Last year. I am thinning out the herd
Hi there Tubalcain.. I have had a Logan 955 for 3 years, in decently great shape.. I'm cleaning and rebuilding the apron but I seem to have a custom pull n hold lever for the clutch instead of a swing lever. Want to put it back to proper although somehow to me it looks like it was meant to be this way. I would love to exchange photos and maybe ask for help from your knowledge! Then the only thing other than a cleaning and lube, need to repair the back gear.. watched numerous of your videos and multiple times, anxious to get my machine going. :)
Find my email in my video entitled January video special tubalcain
Never knew compressed air would do that. I'll have to strip mine as per your video and give it a good cleaning. Would you recommend a light coat of oil over everything? It seems if I don't, some days I'll come out to a light frosting of rust.
I have a model 1955 Logan Lathe, with a Drum brake on it that is rubbing... do you know of a schematic or instructional manual for this? its not in my parts list or my owners manual, is their a resource?
Check out vintage machinery.org
Comon now cant blame air for every shaving
Im not a purist. What about the 2 small 5/16th holes?
Fantastic! I have a 1927H that I got a year ago and it's in 1000 pieces. Just have to paint and rebuild. I look forward to your future videos.
I just bought this exact lathe. I know nothing about metal lathes and I think the best way for me to learn how it all works is to take it apart and put it back together. I have the manual and this video is excellent. I'm going to go back on your channel and see if you have a video about separating the lathe from the base. Thank you!
👍👍
thank you very much just bought the same one and i cant wait to take it apart. ..
I love you'r compressed air tool for unscrewing - I'll look for one myself in some auction !
When you unbolt the bed "feet" is there any danger of the chip pan and legs collapsing?
A nice, safe move. As a very young man, I bought a lathe from a factory, where I used to work. The manager was a bulldog, kind of guy and rushed me to get the lathe moved, to make room for the new lathe's arrival. As a result, I didn't disassemble it enough to lighten the load to a safe weight to handle. I got hurt, moving that thing. I never let anyone rush me, moving machinery, after that. I would say, "either let me do it my (safe), way or I'll sit here and watch you do it yourself.
Why not just use some turn-buckle straps to hold the handle on?
Your statement about how disassembling other lathes is similar is correct. I had to move a 9-inch SB lathe into my basement and it came apart almost in the same manner. Really liked the pipe idea, I strapped the bed to a hand cart but it was pretty awkward since its not bottom heavy when its standing up. Nice Video! Oh, yeah, love the classic Sanka Can.
See that pin at the left end of the lead screw, if you knocked that out, note it's tapered then removed the lead screw before disassembling the carriage. You could have made life a lot easier. Obviously you've never disassembled a lathe before, live and learn. :)
I'd probably use a pack or 2 of small ratchet straps counter opposed on each way to pull against each other, but yours looks real solid there..
Sanka, that has to be at least 80s vintage, I can barely remember it..
Thanks for another great lesson. Could you show us how to align a headstock later on?, I'm not sure if most hobbyists have a lot of measuring tools either, are there any tricks you could share with regard to the alignment of a headstock for re-assembly? - Also, are you the author of all those wonderful machinist books?
Tubalcain, have you given thought to making a video on proper leveling of the bed when you mount it in its new location? An opportune teaching moment if you have time for it. Really appreciate all your videos and look forward to each one. Great work teacher!
hay mr pete where can u buy petrobomd sand for casting i searched it but cant find anything aboult it thanks oh yeal i like ur shows keep up the good work
Love the pipe carry method.
Hi mr pete 500grm Nescafé coffee still have metal cans BUT the lids are metal too in my tropical climate nothing stays rust free unless it's in a can of oil
"Tubal Cain" the author is an Englishman called Tom Walshaw (1912-1998)
I am most surprised how quickly you were able to do this. Do you also plan to separate the chip pan from the legs to make them easier to carry and move?
Thanks for this video. I was wondering how I'd get a craigslist lathe out of the little old lady's basement. (when i eventually buy one) Now I know.
Thanks for the details, will you be showing a cleaning and examination as well as reassembly. Thanks for all your good work.
I have a Logan model 910 where's the best place to buy gears reasonable
Feebay
Lol I got one of these with the cabnet at an estate sale and boy was she a bitch to move. It was in a basement and I didn't want to take it apart so it took 4 of us to move the thing up the stairs and into a truck. Its in my garage and I cant see it moving anytime soon.
You are right, very difficult to move
I have a Barnes 4.5, But I am ready to upgrade to a Logan or Atlas lathe
love the videos
Will a Logan 200 accept a quick change gear box? Thanks for the videos!
Great video. That is a good tour of a lathe.
Do you know of anywhere to get a quick change gearbox for a logan/ powr kraft lathe? I emailed Scott Logan but i would prefer to pick something up second hand.
Thanks,
David
Ebay is the best source. Or watch craigs list--might have to buy an old lathe just for the gears
Dear Mr. Pete, another great video and by far you are the best shop teacher. I am faced with the daunting task of drilling three holes to mount a Logan 820 quick change gearbox onto a Ward lathe. I love American made lathes and it's great to see you explain the workings of them in your videos. They are historic pieces of our past and need to be preserved. Thanks so much for you bringing these to us in your videos.
👍👍👍
I have some original sales material on the Logan 800, 900,& 200 series I can scan if wanted. Also, Logan Actuator Co is the most recent source for parts I have. Got
my parts list from them. Art
Thanks-I would like those scans. Not sure I can show email on these comments. Go to this video, special ATLAS & SOUTH BEND LATHE Video Courses FOR SALE tubalcain. My email address is shown at 4:12. Thanks
Toboggan
Again another good video!!!
Mr Pete, is this the Logan that is for sale on Craigslist?
Yes
Can the saddle be removed without taking off the apron?
No
I have a Logan 1875 10", and on that the apron+saddle can be taken off in one piece. The bottom of its apron is also an oil reservoir, so you have to drain the oil out first before removing, or you'll have an awful mess 😊
Whats an MO?
Modus Operandi ;)