Delphic Paean by Athenaios Athenaiou
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Stef Conner (voice) Barnaby Brown (Louvre aulos)
11th MOISA Meeting, Christ Church, Reading, UK, 21 July 2018
Performing materials & learning resources: doublepipes.inf...
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Artists: stefconner.com barnabybrown.info
International Society for the Study of Greek and Roman Music & its Cultural Heritage: moisasociety.org
I get shivers down my spine watching this and reading the lyrics. Such an epic song and a hearty strong interpretation. I especially enjoy Stef Conners performance, but the Aulos by Baraby is also great.
This song is also remade in the game Civilization 3
They most certainly put this into the soundtrack of the game. I distinctly remember it in 3, and again in 4 for the Greeks!
Fantastic to finally see the translation of the Delphic Hymn simultaneously whilst it is being performed! To hear the spontaneous shimmering counterpoint of the recreated aulos certainly puts to bed that still prevailing myth that the use of any form of harmony, polyphony or counterpoint was magically 'invented' in the Western world during the Middle Ages!
Puts to bed nothing. I know well these marbles, which are not many kilometers from where I live, and I am a musician. Read them. Only text, with an indication of pitch once in a while (you know, above a letter). No melody defined, even less counterpoint or harmony. Not even an indication of the instrument. We don't even know if an instrument was required, or just voice. Now you may reinterpret as much as you want. I made my own version of it, but that does not allow for your comment pretending that counterpoint and harmony existed. We just don't know.
Said that, Greek music has never been based on harmony, in the ancient times we do not know, but not even in the bysantine era, and neither today. 99% of it is modal, and that may partially explain the complex rythms.
@Marco Fratnik - the ancient Greek aulos (2 reed pipes played simultaneously) produced 2 separate melodies in spontaneous counterpoint and often accompanied lyre and kithara performances during classical antiquity! The first CODIFICATION of how to create harmony in the Enchiriadis Treaties of the 9th century is not the same as the first CREATION of harmony, which since all human voices are in different natural pitch registers, is probly as old as humans first sang together - as testified by the fact that polyphonic singing is part of the culture of virtually every ancient aboriginal society who have never had any influence from the so called 'superior' Western world, for example the polyphonic singing tradition of the Aka Pygmies of Central Africa.
I feel like I'm in an ancient Greek temple right now! Thanks for your great performance.
They did not sing inside the temples though. Most of the ceremonies was done outside. This song in particular was performed while a crowd was walking towards a sanctuary.
Glory to the eternal Apollo!
You'd think an eternal god would have at least one complete surviving hymn.
@@benscott4434 You can't understand the will of a god. Every god has a own will. Apollo is resurgent.
@@benscott4434 If christians didnt destroy and burn all the written hymn s we would have more than one.
@@user-hy2vg7im2z most of them are lost because of several other reasons, some of them natural, so I suggest you first read before judging
But even Apollo must bow before the Saviour of the world. ;-)
Regular stone turned into marble after this.
Incredible, amazing, superb!
Sounds marvelous. Thank you for posting and presenting ancient music.
Fantastic. The singer is phenomenal
goosebumps! I hope there will be more of this...
Κέκλυθ᾽ Ἑλικῶνα βαθύδενδρον αἳ λάχετε, Διὸς ἐριβρόμου θύγατρες εὐώλενοι, μόλετε, συνόμαιμον ἵνα Φοῖβον ὠιδαῖσι μέλψητε χρυσεοκόμαν, ὃς ἀνὰ δικόρυμβα Παρνασσίδος τᾶσδε πετέρας ἕδραν’ ἅμ’ ἀγακλυταῖς Δελφίσιν Κασταλίδος εὐΰδρου νάματ’ ἐπινίσεται, Δελφὸν ἀνὰ πρῶνα μαντεῖον ἐφέπων πάγον.
ἢν κλυτὰ μεγαλόπολις Ἀθθὶς, εὐχαῖσι φερόπλοιο ναίουσα Τριτωνίδος δάπεδον ἄθραυστον· ἁγίοις δὲ βωμοῖσιν Ἅφαῖστος αἴθει νέων μῆρα ταύρων· ὁμοῦ δέ νιν Ἄραψ ἀτμὸς ἐς Ὄλυμπον ἀνακίδναται· λιγὺ δὲ λωτὸς βρέμων αἰόλοις μ̣ έλεσιν ὠιδαὰν κρέκει· χρυσέα δ’ ἀδύθρους κίθαρις ὕμνοισιν ἀναμέλπεται.
ὁ δὲ τεχνιτῶν πρόπας ἐσμὸς Ἀθθίδα λαχὼν ἀγλαίζει κλυτὸν παῖδα μεγάλου Διὸς, σοὶ γὰρ ἔπορ’ ἀκρονιφῆ τόνδε πάγον, ἄμβροτ’ ἀψευδέ’οὗ πᾶσι θνατοῖς προφαίνεις λόγια, τρίποδα μαντεῖον ὡς εἴλες, ὃν μέγας ἐφρούρει δράκων, ὅτε τέκος Γᾶς ἀπέστησας αἰόλον ἑλικτὰν φυάν, ἔσθ’ ὁ θὴρ πυκνὰ συρίγμαθ’ ἱεὶς ἀθώπευτ’ ἀπέπνευσ’ ὁμῶς· ὡς δὲ Γαλατᾶν ἄρης βάρβαρος, τάνδ᾽ ὃς επὶ γαῖαν ἐπέρασ’ ἀσέπτως χιόνος ὤλεθ᾽ ὑγραῖς χοαῖς.
Φοῖβον and ὠιδαῖσι are two separate words - 'Phoebus' and 'songs'
Συγχαρητήρια~
Khaire Apollon, Ie Paean.
otherworldly, beautiful--what a simple, yet technical performance
Fantastic work. Thank you, Barnaby and Stef!
Thank you!
Wow didn't see this in the original video post of the concert/workshope. I
am enjoying this so.
Zeus would approve
🌅Bravo☀️
Bello, sublime, gracias
i remember there were fliers about this back when i was at uni. shame i never went
One love!
Amazing!
Why did not Mr. Brown play using overblowing? On the performance at Oxford in 2017, he exactly played with overblowing in the part of the highest register.
Wikipedia brought me here lol
Also, am I the only one who notices the irony of singing a pagan paean in a church
It's cause churches are not very popular now days and mostly serve as museums and community centers
@@pontoppidan_ Awesome.
I think it's beautiful we live in an age where this can happen freely :)
@Hannah Materialism, consumerism, Liberalism.
No religion at all. Greed and narcissism has killed god.
(and I am not saying this a good thing)
@@nordoceltic7225 sweet
That's amazing!
Greetings from Greece. I would like to know the bibliography that actually explain the Delphic Hymn to God Pan lyrics, the Music as it was at ancient times and who was the Athenaios Athenaiou because i make a research last 2 years and it will be really useful if you can help me! Also im from that area in Delphi and i like to know about ancient times... thanks and keep Music!!! :)
I think the best source for finding out quickly that information is the book ancient greek music by M.L West
Merci pour la fin antique
Agora :)
Is the singer Swedish by any chance?
I'm very proud of my AWESOME ANCIENT ANCESTORS!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds partially like finnish. Not sure why...
the flute is like Launeddas from Sardinia? these 2 flutes are greek instrument?
Yes, Ancient Greek called αυλός , avlos
That seems like an extremely difficult piece to sing!
It's only an idea... This is a hungarian instrument called "koboz*.
it's not just an idea, it's a thought-out approach based on the ancient notes and verses found at Delphi carved into the ancient marble. This instrument is called diaulos and has its origins in ancient Greece.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaulos_(instrument)
I wonder what this sounds like as chiptune
Good old pagan days.
I doubt they had spectacles at the original performance.
@@benscott4434
Or microphones...
Sinceramente la pronunciación de Sanador o Curador, Eurotas y otras palabras más me resultaron ininteligibles.
Is she Scandinavian? Because her pronounciation is making me wince...
The pronunciation is fine. It's not Modern Greek, not even Koine, it's a reconstructed Classical pronunciation. It's not Erasmian. But I can't tell if it's Lucian or something else. There's mispronunciations all over but I've heard much more atrocious pronunciations, especially in song. You can at least tell it's Greek with this, lol
@@user-yp6yr9te7l how is it Greek pronunciation when her accent isn't remotely Greek. Do you have ears?!
@@HarosOfStyx How is it not "remotely" Greek? There are mispronunciations but I don't think it's as inaccurate as Erasmian Pronuncation. You can clearly tell this is some form of Greek. Obviously it's attempting a Reconstructed Ancient or Attic Greek Phonology, not Modern Greek phonology. That's like, obvious though.
Why are Greeks so stupid when it comes to this? What nation would logically assume their language sounds the same thousands of years later? No wonder Greece is a failed state when there’s no logic or critical thinking.
@HarosOfStyx Μια χαρα ειναι η προφορα της
The language sounds like wiking
She did a very good job but she’s lacking the melody and the flow of the Greek language.I don’t blame her at all though cause phonetic languages are hard for some people
it's a beautiful effort but as a Greek listening to people trying to speak ancient Greek makes my ears hurt, sorry. It's like trying to sing German or Chinese with no idea how to pronounce it.
Μια χαρα ειναι η προφορα.
Do you realize that the text of this song is written in Classical Greek, which is a different language than the Greek spoken by modern inhabitants of Greece? It's not (necessarily) that the text of the song is pronounced badly, it's just different language from yours.
@@TheStrangerTom It's not a different language, you are overstretching it.
@@lightbringer2794 Different enough.
Ancient Greek is different to modern just like old Norse is very different to Swedish
Wow so British!
And it would be better American??
proto-Balkan music of today. Bulgarian folk song.
Sounds Greek to me
Sounds gothic. Has to have less sharp and abrupt tones. Hell, people, this is the Orient, put some imagination into it, half of Greece was there, the other half still is ... Lazy swirl or smth lazy twisted has to sound. But this - not.
It’s also kinda out of Tune… The singer literally sounded like a bleating ewe
She is trying to speak Ancient Greek hilarious without the melody of the Greek Language. Actually she is trying to speak like some irrational Byzantines taught the "Europeans" to speak Greek or better like Boris ))
Those double reeds are awful; sounds like he’s playing grass with his thumbs; i’ve literally heard soda straws that sound better than this. Amazing she can even manage to sing with this accompaniment. She should have just done it a capela
Your ears just aren't used to hearing it. Music back then was very different. I, for one, find the double reeds very pleasing. It's an acquired taste. Your taste is acquired, too. You just acquired it earlier on since you've been hearing modern music your whole life.
@@nevermind2616 oh, no, honey. I didn’t say ALL double reeds sound awful. I said THOSE double reeds sound awful. “Acquired taste” means you know you don’t like it, but you prettied it up with the golden frame of history, and exotic narrative, and you’re so in love with the story of the instrument that it ceases to matter if it sounds like a kazoo or not - I’m assuming you hold the kazoo in equal esteem as it has the same timbre. Here is that soda straw that is miles and miles beyond these th-cam.com/video/0_UEPpsCMCA/w-d-xo.html as far as ancient music goes, there are a variety of ancient instruments I either listen to or play.
@@hili467 "Those double reeds sound awful" could mean those specific double reeds or all double reeds. Sorry I couldn't read your mind. So there are other double reed performances you like. Do any of them feature aulos performers or just different instruments in that grouping? I don't know why it's so unbelievable to you that I could find the sound of this instrument pleasing. Maybe I lack your discriminating ear, but I liked its sound as soon as I heard it. If there are better aulos performances, I'd love it if you could show them to me, as I already enjoy this. Since ancient music follows different conventions than modern music, it does put a lot of people off at first. I thought that was the experience you were having, but evidently not. Sorry for drawing false conclusions. And for the record, I wasn't trying to criticize or argue with you. I know tone can be hard to read online.
@@nevermind2616 welcome to demonstrative adjectives www.grammar-monster.com/glossary/demonstrative_adjective.htm
@@nevermind2616 exactly - you knew your friend was speaking specifically about your crocks, calling them tacky - and that he was comparing them to crocks he did not find tacky, and thus was speaking specifically about your tacky crocks and not all crocks in general.
It’s remarkable that you understand the concept of demonstrative adjectives so well in your own example but fail to apply that same understanding to language in real time. 🤷🏻♂️