Ancient One may have more experience than Doctor Strange, but there's a limit of experience, and I think Doctor Strange has that in his arsenal. However, Scarlet Witch's magic is base on raw power.
@@giosilva3204 In the illuminati fight Wanda was given only a fraction of her power so she had to use her skill to turn the fight around in disorder in chaos as her multitasking was too big for Peggy and Captain marvel at the same time
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodGayGuy and that was the variants body that was weaker , got me thinking that Wanda was merciful because she wasn't actually there to hunt down America Chavez 💀
No he doesn't. Doctor strange doesn't even compare to other magic user In liveaction, he was trained for 3-4 trains with ancient one. Agatha, Morgan le fay, and Wanda are way more talented than he is.
Wanda has access to unlimited knowledge from the Darkhold, which makes her even stronger from her reality warping chaos magic. This amplifies her already powerful magic together with the piece of the mind stone inside of her. The Scarlet Witch is literally a nexus being capable of rewriting reality on a universal scale, access to multiple dimensions, manipulate probability to her favour, use telepathy, telekinesis, mind control, transmute matter including Thor’s lightning etc. Her chaos magic exceeds that of even the Sorcerer Supreme. It is prophesied that the Scarlet Witch is destined to rule or destroy the cosmos. Current comic book Wanda also absorbed the Darkhold, making her in control of the Chaos Elder God Chthon and his abilities which grants her immense powers (aka God of Chaos Wanda).
I don't like the Scarlet witch I feel they just brought her out so women will buy the show and watch the movies she's terrible I always thought she should never be in the movies. Some little witch next you're going to say she can beat Odin
Strange is the best sorcerer who trained in Kamar Taj. Wanda only self-studied with limited materials. Yet, She destroyed Kamar Taj and Strange was running away from her. So yeah, Wanda has more potential.
@@MainRapperACEsahi and Not to forget her best feat to destroy the iluminati those who defeated thanos with the Stones but i still think That Thor is the strongest avenger
And besides.. Wanda had the Darkhold with her all the time.. I'm sure of Strange had more time with the book of Vashanti he would have been more stronger than Wanda
I imagine the Ancient One winning because she would try to talk to Wanda instead of actual fighting her. Get in her mind, help her heal, and fight over lol.
@ㄒ卂ﾌ卂ㄚ Strange doesn't have people skills, did you miss the point of the first film? He has a massive ego, he couldn't even empathize with Wanda despite her being corrupted, atleast Wong tried to talk to her like a concerned friend
The ancient one's death scene demonstrated that her death was planned because she had seen all of her future possibilities in order to minimize potential threats in the future, and all of her future always leads to her death. She explained to Bruce that "he is meant to be the best of us" does not imply power. This refers to his ability to make decisions independently of internal or external influences. She saw his future as having "such capacity of goodness." Ancient One must die to ensure timeline accuracy; she has yet to demonstrate her full capabilities.
I’ll give it to Scarlet Witch even tho I think the Ancient One could put up a decent fight since experience(even though not a guaranteed victory) can play a crucial part in winning a fight and the Ancient One has thousands of years of experience training in the mystic arts, taking power from the dark dimension, and also being the previous Sorcerers Supreme but Scarlet Witch is just too powerful to where experience is not doing anything to a character who is vastly more powerful than you. Doctor Strange has far surpassed the Ancient One and Doctor Strange was actively running away from Scarlet Witch in MOM so the clear victor is obvious.
I really don't think Dr. Strange surpassed the Ancient One yet. The farthest and strongest power source he's gotten so far is just a few pages of the Darkhold whereas the Ancient One has been utilizing the Dark Dimension for centuries. With the following movies he might but I don't think he surpassed her just yet
Plus, we have to remember one thing about SW: she is a Nexus being. ‘Nuff said there, because it means she can tap into some major mystical mojo that any SS can’t (or has not, yet).
"The ancient one can hold wanda in the mirror dimension and wanda will find it hard to get out of there" Also wanda:*created a hex inside the mirror dimension Wanda: you didn't see that coming?
Peter didn't defeat Strange in the mirror dimension. He just outsmarted and found that all the mirror dimension was basically geometry. And if Wanda doesn't feel like prolonging the fight then.."no more ancient one"
I agreed with ur point until the part of “no more ancient one” if she could’ve done that all along, why couldn’t she do that to strange?? It’s not like she needed strange alive to get what she wants. She only needed Chavez which means she could’ve just killed strange but she didn’t. I think that sorcerers will have some sort of protection against spells like “ no more strange” or “no more ancient one”
@@nicodiangelo7051 for starters, I love Nico lol. And idk about that because she was able to take away 98% of mutans powers and some even died because of her spell. She was able to bring her brother back to life easily. Also she was able to kill someone just by touching them who had a bit of the phenoixs power. Besides, she stated that she was being reasonable and showing mercy in this movie by not going after America herself. Also. She didn't really use her reality warping abilities in this movie except for removing someone's mouth and changing the environment around her. I believe Strange even said he was no match for her
@@nicodiangelo7051 also, I feel like their is something to protect them from cosmic level magic but it needs to be on them or they need to carry it around. But for someone as powerful as Wanda, they might be able to easily bypass that
@@masonambrose1093 that is comics Wanda. We r still talking bout their mcu variants and she didn’t do that to strange so I don’t think she’ll do it to the ancient one
@@nicodiangelo7051 she very clearly didn’t want to kill strange, apparent by the number of times she tried to get him to back down. she knows (and so does he) that she could effortlessly wipe out pretty much anyone who stands in her way and as we’ve seen, fighting her is pointless, she’s a quick learner and adapted quickly to every obstacle
@ㄒ卂ﾌ卂ㄚ idk why but this is so funny LMAO, id like to see wanda drop kicking someone LOL. that would be hilarious. she usually takes down enemies with magic but seeing her drop kick someon would be so funny
Most of Ancient One's scaling comes from Doctor Strange , assuming that she can keep up with people on his level. Wanda has already taken down Doctor Strange + All of his planning and Versatility + He took down multiple sorcerers too ( Doctor Strange ( MCU ) , Wong , Defender Strange ) If Wanda can beat not only strange , but some of the best sorcerers in the world , and teams from other words all in one day and still remain "reasonable" , I think she has this comfortably.
In terms of their Raw Power, if Scarlet Witch's magic is immeasurable, and some of these comments says Ancient One wins, So what makes you think Ancient One's power is immeasurable as well?😆
Although the Ancient One has centuries of experience, the Scarlet Witch is stated to be more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme, and she managed to easily defeat both Doctor Strange and Wong.
yeah because strange didn't use any of his good spells due to stupid writing. He could have used the spell to wipe her memory. Could have punched her astral form out etc
@@naeemislam1105 Wanda defeated Xavier's telepathy, a memory spell isnt going to do anything. Strange pulls out her soul, so what?, she can use both, her physical and astral form at the same time. Strange is out of his league here.
@@ErioLight another typical stupid wanda fangirl. Stranges memory spell affected the whole world and almost caused the multiverse to collapse itself because it went wrong. Wanda overpowered xaviers telepathy is pure lazy writing. He could have just froze her like in the x men films. Strange didn't use any of the spells he used against thanos but on wanda. She looked more powerful than she is through lazy writing
I mean yeah its facts. Even the strongest sorcerer supreme according to the Ancient One (Steven Strange) is no match againts Wanda (The Scarlet Witch). "your power exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme". Words engraved in stone, contained within the darkhold
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I can’t wait for Shadow Fight to release their comic books. I feel like you can make some great matches with their characters. That’s if they make theme op or not
No way she’s much much more Composed and strategic and intelligent than both Wanda and strange. Wanda cannot beat a focused and determined AO. Her skill and experience will win her this fight.
In raw power, it is Wanda but in terms of experience, it will be the Ancient one, it is a classic battle between talent (Wanda) vs skill (Ancient one) the thing with the ancient one is she uses dark magic too, she might have use the dark hold at one point but never shown physical manifestation of someone who uses dark magic. Like how Caesilus has dark eyes, Agatha, and Wanda has dark finger tips same with evil strange.
Right before the Ancient One gave Banner the time stone she told him that Strange was "The best of us." If he can't beat Wanda, then it's likely the Ancient One can't either.
Though all things aside, the Illuminati should have waited for the Professor to arrive, or Reed give him a teleportation device like he used when he appeared at the council chamber. They were not going to stop her, and they didn’t have the might to do so. He should have researched her since he “was the smartest man alive”. He would have known that they would need the Professor as his ability was the only thing that would definitely give them a chance to defeat her.
The ancient one wins remember agatha harkness told Wanda power isn't the issue its knowledge And the ancient one has more knowledge and experience than she do so she wins
and agatha told her that only moments after wanda found out who she was. and also before she took the darkhold for herself. then she literally trapped agatha, who also has centuries worth of experience, in her own mind
Thank you! idk if people gotta go & watch all of her clips again but she is BEASTLY but not only that, she could also just as easily talk Wanda out of watever she had in mind. The Ancient one had the most wisdom out of all the characters in the mcu
Wanda already has knowledge she a quick learner and we dont what more she can do from the spells in the darkhold she learned so much about her origins of chaos magic from the darkhold and powerful high level spells she shown in multiverse of madness and ancient one having experienced dont change the fact wanda still wins characters who haves more experience can still be beaten
The other stones give immense power to the holder tho. Thanos was only using the space stone to block her attack. When Thanos puts a stone in his glove he absorbs some kind of energy from them therefore making him stronger. Wanda was able to hold him back with 5 stones enhancing him, while using the space stone to block it. All while she was blasting a hole through her lovers head containing the mind stone. Pretty impressive if you ask me
The Ancient One once said that Dr. Strange is the most powerful among them sorcerers. But we all know that Wanda is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme (Dr. Strange not Wong) as per Agatha therefore by that principle we can say that the Scarlet Witch is more powerful than the Ancient One.
Well not just by that principle. In the comics she absorbed the darkhold a book containing near endless amount of spells incantations and prophecies. She also absorbed Chthon the person who's said to wipe out universes in a blink of an eye, basically she's night omnipotent
Scarlet Witch is basically Thanos with all stones + Max Power Dr Strange + The Ancient One + Dormammu + etc.. Her magic is far beyond anything else we have seen in the MCU. She doesnt need speed or strength or durability because her magic easily compensates for her lack of physicality. She can do anything the Infinity Stones can do and more. If we saw realistic fighting, no plot armor stuff, there is no being in the MCU that could even draw blood.
Wanda loses cause she's too emotional..... All the ancient one gotta do is just tell Wanda that Billy & Tommy would not approve of what she is doing, & Wanda would stop & try to take herself out
Saying Spiderman "beat" Dr.Strange is not accurate at all. Dr.Strange was not fighting to hurt or kill Peter.. he was just trying to get the box. It was almost like a bigger brother fighting their smaller brother.. but their little brother suprising them with something. Edit: Also, just because someone is more "powerful" doesn't necessarily mean they automatically just win... Look at Strange vs Dormammu.. Dormamu is infinite times more powerful then Strange.. but Strange beat him from ingenuity and spells. I feel like yes... Scarlet Witch is more powerful then Ancient one... but this is the Ancient one we're talking about. Her experience , cunning , intelligence , spells , ingenuity , and yes even her power make her such a huge threat. I think Scarlet Witch is more powerful.... but Ancient One finds a way to win. Thats just me though.
Everytime when I think that the Ancient One could talk the Scarlet Witch down into stopping, I then remember the times it didn't work with Kaecilius and Doctor Strange in the What If series
I think it’s close. Wanda has chaos and darkhold, but ancient one has dark dimension and time stone. In the end, I think ancient one wins bc she can look through time like she and strange did before to figure out how to beat Wanda. Also, If ancient one can find the vishanti book then I think she wins since vishanti balance out darkhold and she still has experience, power of dark dimension and time stone. For people who said Wanda destroy a bunch of Sorcerer, so can ancient one. Remember that with the power from the dark dimension, kacilius was able to destroy the sanctums and since ancient one is more powerful than him and only died bc of plot device, she could do the same to those sorcerers, she just don’t want to.
Could you also do a fight comparison between soldier boy and hulk? My theory is soldier boy's power is growing and evolving. He never had a nuclear laser blast before and he survived his own self destruct move. He took on Butcher and the others on his own too.
She Just tap into her true power literally, after those two 📚 📖 books, but we don't know if she has already master but afyer this two she has definitely tap into her true power %
Ancient one has vast amounts more experience. She could probably stop Scarlett Witch for awhile but eventually Scarlett Witch will adapt and win. Can you please do a verses video on Space Punisher Hulk vs World Breaker Hulk? Thanks 👍
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Ok, my two cents. I'd still give it to the ancient one. She never shared her whole knowledge with her students. Also, her drawing power from the dark dimension while shielding herself from Dormammu is an incredible feat. Pretty sure she could do more against Kaecilius if she wanted, but I guess she was really tired of trying and living. Wanda is powerful? Amazingly super powerful, but without the darkhold she's just powerful. Pretty sure the ancient one had Vishanti-like books with her that could counter the magic from the darkhold. She meant that Strange was the best of them (sorceress supremes and stuff), but because he would be pure. I'd still her dark dimensions would make her an formidable opponent against Wanda, even "stoned" Thanos. Still, I give that fight to the ancient one.
@Crimson Horror this is not about allowance. It's just a testament of how powerful you are in matter of not allowing to be controlled, exactly what opposed when Wanda was corrupted by the darkhold. The ancient one was able to draw power from the dark dimension without being corrupted by Dormammu. That alone is a testament of the mastery of her powers. She is just to OP for a Wanda that saw herself corrupted when her own children denied her. It wrecked her and she saw what a monster she became. The ancient one is not more powerful than the SW, but she can definitely use her whole arsenal of magical talents and buy enough time for the "cure". She could purge the darkhold hold on Wanda with the Book of Vishanti or other white magic antidote.
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I feel like ancient one in the MCU would not stand a chance if she lost to Kaecillius. Dr. Strange just has way more of an arsenal of spells than the ancient one has shown, with the ancient one focusing on mirror dimension and eldritch constructs while Strange with serpentine hydra hands, crimson bands of cyttorak, illusions/duplication, etc. One way to overpower a being who's more powerful than you is quite simply just outsmarting and having more tricks. Wanda could survive the mirror dimension and even influence the original dimension through it, even move her body while astral projecting and summon monsters that had a Dr. Strange variant literally die. Tbh, they should have built Wanda's power up and not just give her sudden jumps of power like that. Every single appearance she gets she exponentially powers up. She couldn't even contain an explosion for a long period of time but now she's surviving blasts from Captain Marvel and survived through the mirror dimension effortlessly and escaped without a sling ring. Edit: I forgot to consider the control of gravity and terrain on the mirror dimension, but if Spiderman was able to manipulate terrain to some extent, I think Wanda could as well. Her levitation would already nullify most of the terrain manipulation, and she can just use her telekinesis on the ancient one without releasing a hex bolt that would bounce.
@@arianalikens5300 Don't worry I know she'd win but I was just describing how the ancient one can put up a fight. Wanda has access to the outside world even within the mirror dimension and can summon someone to let her out or even grab a sling ring. Ancient one can put up a fight though, and much more with her connection to the dark dimension in the mirror dimension.
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Scarlet Witch vs Jobu Tupaki House of M Scarlet Witch vs Unkindness Raven Jean Grey vs Scarlet Witch (Base forms) Kaecilius vs Voldemort Ancient One vs Dumbledore Doctor Strange vs Gandalf
The Ancient One wins . She has experience and knowledge far surpassing Wanda. She doesn’t have to match her in raw power. Her Strategy and intelligence plus the power & skill she possesses gives her the major advantage. She’s aware of other universes & has soul manipulation. She can easily end the fight. If we’re gonna compare, let’s scale everything. The Ancient ones intelligence is WAY greater than most characters in the mcu Wanda included. Plus she has literally been shown to be somewhat omniscient. She knows what’s going to happen before it happens (though that may be attributed to the eye of agamotto but it’s still a tool she has at her disposal) she can literally control time. If you ask me she died because she wanted to.
@Sad B!tch what’s years training with Captain America and black widow compared to centuries if not millennium of training with much more capable magical beings And why do you keep glossing over the fact that Wanda is very emotionally unstable and corruptible. also you sound dumb because You don’t have to listen to my “bs” actually nobody told you to feel a type Of Way or comment a damn thing, that was completely your choice. Either way the fact remains that the ancient has more far more intelligence experience & mental stability than not only Wanda but 99% of the mcu. She can beat her & just about anyone else we’ve seen in the mcu thus far with wisdom alone. No violence needed. Have you actually seen what the mcu ancient one was capable of on all levels? Mentally spiritually and strategically? Wanda fights with extremely low intelligence and strategy levels comparatively…How can you just throw those facts to the side like they don’t matter shows bias on your side and an extreme lack of ability to scale combatants properly.
@Sad B!tch “her intelligence doesn’t surpass scarlet witch “ LMFAO see Now I know you’re just talking out of your ass and making shit up. Yes, Wanda is more powerful per say. We can all admit that right? but man If you can’t even admit that the ancient one is far more intelligent than Wanda than YOU are the one being biased because that’s simply absurd. She’s one of the most intelligent characters in the whole MCU, w intelligence levels comparable to Thanos/Kang/Tony/& reed. Your Arguments entire credibility was shattered once you said Wanda is more intelligent than the ancient one . This debate is over
@@Vincesjones Wanda has a human body too that Jean can easily disintegrate with a though. If Wanda was that powerful how come she never showed that level of power. Everyone wants to say that Wanda is this and that powerful but we don’t see it. With Jean, we do. In both the original Fox movies and the reboot.
It's not about wanda phychic body, it's about what she can do, even when jean disentegrate her wanda can ressurected herself immidiately, But right after she warped jean out of the existence then it's game over there is no way back even when jean got regenerative abilities. Also in mcu wanda already described as multiversal threat while jean wasn't even close at galaxy level.
Ancient One may have more experience than Doctor Strange, but there's a limit of experience, and I think Doctor Strange has that in his arsenal. However, Scarlet Witch's magic is base on raw power.
@@giosilva3204 In the illuminati fight Wanda was given only a fraction of her power so she had to use her skill to turn the fight around in disorder in chaos as her multitasking was too big for Peggy and Captain marvel at the same time
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodGayGuy and that was the variants body that was weaker , got me thinking that Wanda was merciful because she wasn't actually there to hunt down America Chavez 💀
@@lgt_jne HEE HEE
@@lgt_jne she would ultimately lose, regardless how powerful she ever be!? Like Thanos, Villains always lose
No he doesn't. Doctor strange doesn't even compare to other magic user In liveaction, he was trained for 3-4 trains with ancient one. Agatha, Morgan le fay, and Wanda are way more talented than he is.
Wanda has access to unlimited knowledge from the Darkhold, which makes her even stronger from her reality warping chaos magic. This amplifies her already powerful magic together with the piece of the mind stone inside of her. The Scarlet Witch is literally a nexus being capable of rewriting reality on a universal scale, access to multiple dimensions, manipulate probability to her favour, use telepathy, telekinesis, mind control, transmute matter including Thor’s lightning etc. Her chaos magic exceeds that of even the Sorcerer Supreme. It is prophesied that the Scarlet Witch is destined to rule or destroy the cosmos.
Current comic book Wanda also absorbed the Darkhold, making her in control of the Chaos Elder God Chthon and his abilities which grants her immense powers (aka God of Chaos Wanda).
Yeah that's just bad writing
I don't like the Scarlet witch I feel they just brought her out so women will buy the show and watch the movies she's terrible I always thought she should never be in the movies. Some little witch next you're going to say she can beat Odin
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Yeah Wanda clears
@@marvelworld744 the darkhold omega
Ancient One said Steven Strange was meant to be the best sorcerer of them all, and Wanda was too much for him.
Strange has not reached his potential yet
Strange is the best sorcerer who trained in Kamar Taj. Wanda only self-studied with limited materials. Yet, She destroyed Kamar Taj and Strange was running away from her. So yeah, Wanda has more potential.
@@MainRapperACEsahi and Not to forget her best feat to destroy the iluminati those who defeated thanos with the Stones but i still think That Thor is the strongest avenger
Seems you fail to comprehend that her statement.... He is yet to reach his potential which if he does would surpass Wanda..
And besides.. Wanda had the Darkhold with her all the time.. I'm sure of Strange had more time with the book of Vashanti he would have been more stronger than Wanda
Ancient One: “You must stop this madness.”
Scarlet Witch: “This is me being REASONABLE.”
Scarlet Witch: This isn't madness, it's Chaos.
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I imagine the Ancient One winning because she would try to talk to Wanda instead of actual fighting her. Get in her mind, help her heal, and fight over lol.
@ㄒ卂ﾌ卂ㄚ Strange doesn't have people skills, did you miss the point of the first film? He has a massive ego, he couldn't even empathize with Wanda despite her being corrupted, atleast Wong tried to talk to her like a concerned friend
The ancient one's death scene demonstrated that her death was planned because she had seen all of her future possibilities in order to minimize potential threats in the future, and all of her future always leads to her death.
She explained to Bruce that "he is meant to be the best of us" does not imply power. This refers to his ability to make decisions independently of internal or external influences. She saw his future as having "such capacity of goodness."
Ancient One must die to ensure timeline accuracy; she has yet to demonstrate her full capabilities.
I’ll give it to Scarlet Witch even tho I think the Ancient One could put up a decent fight since experience(even though not a guaranteed victory) can play a crucial part in winning a fight and the Ancient One has thousands of years of experience training in the mystic arts, taking power from the dark dimension, and also being the previous Sorcerers Supreme but Scarlet Witch is just too powerful to where experience is not doing anything to a character who is vastly more powerful than you. Doctor Strange has far surpassed the Ancient One and Doctor Strange was actively running away from Scarlet Witch in MOM so the clear victor is obvious.
Dr. Strange has far surpassed the Ancient One? Nah i don’t think so
@@aaronhaydel3058 He has. The Ancient One said it herself that Doctor Strange would be stronger than her and he’s shown that he’s way above her.
I don't think he passed her till the end of his second movie.
@@DavidWilliams-nu3en No he’s stronger than her now.
I really don't think Dr. Strange surpassed the Ancient One yet. The farthest and strongest power source he's gotten so far is just a few pages of the Darkhold whereas the Ancient One has been utilizing the Dark Dimension for centuries. With the following movies he might but I don't think he surpassed her just yet
Plus, we have to remember one thing about SW: she is a Nexus being. ‘Nuff said there, because it means she can tap into some major mystical mojo that any SS can’t (or has not, yet).
The ancient one saying Strange is meant to be the "best of us", doesnt mean he is meant to be the strongest. "The Best" can mean alot of things.
Paradoxical statement
"The ancient one can hold wanda in the mirror dimension and wanda will find it hard to get out of there"
Also wanda:*created a hex inside the mirror dimension
Wanda: you didn't see that coming?
She will cme out of it
Just like in MOM
Definitely scarlet witch , we all saw that the best doctor strange could do was run from wanda
That's cause of bad writing
They're not running from Wanda, They're running Towards the Book of Vishanti...
@@nathanielgonzalo606 To defeat Wanda and they failed
@@pasta3376 strange fans are in denial. They won’t admit basic facts
They run and hide in differnt universes
The dark hold once said “her power exceeds that of the soccer supreme “
Because
chthon >> Dormammu
@@hela5523 and wanda absorbed both the darkhold and chthon in a blink of an eye. it was quite hilarious in the comics actually
Wanda most definitely is a universal threat! She's said to rule or annihilate the cosmos not just the planet.
In marvel description cosmos = multiverse, which means she is a multiversal threat
In the comics yes but in the movies no
Movies are still considered to be the part of the same multi eternity, and multi eternity described as the eight cosmos.
*multiversal threat
@@thatweirdbwah_ in the comics she's multiversal
Peter didn't defeat Strange in the mirror dimension. He just outsmarted and found that all the mirror dimension was basically geometry. And if Wanda doesn't feel like prolonging the fight then.."no more ancient one"
I agreed with ur point until the part of “no more ancient one” if she could’ve done that all along, why couldn’t she do that to strange?? It’s not like she needed strange alive to get what she wants. She only needed Chavez which means she could’ve just killed strange but she didn’t. I think that sorcerers will have some sort of protection against spells like “ no more strange” or “no more ancient one”
@@nicodiangelo7051 for starters, I love Nico lol. And idk about that because she was able to take away 98% of mutans powers and some even died because of her spell. She was able to bring her brother back to life easily. Also she was able to kill someone just by touching them who had a bit of the phenoixs power. Besides, she stated that she was being reasonable and showing mercy in this movie by not going after America herself. Also. She didn't really use her reality warping abilities in this movie except for removing someone's mouth and changing the environment around her. I believe Strange even said he was no match for her
@@nicodiangelo7051 also, I feel like their is something to protect them from cosmic level magic but it needs to be on them or they need to carry it around. But for someone as powerful as Wanda, they might be able to easily bypass that
@@masonambrose1093 that is comics Wanda. We r still talking bout their mcu variants and she didn’t do that to strange so I don’t think she’ll do it to the ancient one
@@nicodiangelo7051 she very clearly didn’t want to kill strange, apparent by the number of times she tried to get him to back down. she knows (and so does he) that she could effortlessly wipe out pretty much anyone who stands in her way and as we’ve seen, fighting her is pointless, she’s a quick learner and adapted quickly to every obstacle
You made your points, and I completely agree. This fight would be a hard one but ultimately she would win
No she doesn't, tell me one fight where heroes loses to villain!??lol
@@abhisheknarayana1224 hmmmm, In Hercules Zeus lost to Hades
@@GiggleBum one in billion fluke, what follows after that everyone knows!!
@@abhisheknarayana1224in dr strange mom, nobody defeat the scarlet witch
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Comic Gorr vs Darkseid
Black Order vs Steppenwolf
Thanos vs Ikaris
Hela vs Agatha Harkness
Chitauri vs Parademons
Gorr
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Thanos
Hela
Parademons
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@Crimson Horror so the guy who makes the avengers his punching bag would be beaten by some cheap version of superman. Nice joke 🤣
I would say wanda wins but ancient one has more experience I think
No duh she has more experience
she does but wanda i dont even think she needs experience considering what she did in MoM
Wanda gain more experience after reading darkhold
You missed the fact that The Ancient One doesnt care about killing an enemy. Strange and the rest of the Heroes do.
@ㄒ卂ﾌ卂ㄚ idk why but this is so funny LMAO, id like to see wanda drop kicking someone LOL. that would be hilarious. she usually takes down enemies with magic but seeing her drop kick someon would be so funny
Most of Ancient One's scaling comes from Doctor Strange , assuming that she can keep up with people on his level.
Wanda has already taken down Doctor Strange + All of his planning and Versatility + He took down multiple sorcerers too ( Doctor Strange ( MCU ) , Wong , Defender Strange )
If Wanda can beat not only strange , but some of the best sorcerers in the world , and teams from other words all in one day and still remain "reasonable" , I think she has this comfortably.
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Here’s the thing danco I want you to do a video infinity ultron vs dormamu please
In terms of their Raw Power, if Scarlet Witch's magic is immeasurable, and some of these comments says Ancient One wins, So what makes you think Ancient One's power is immeasurable as well?😆
Remember when there was a time that the sourcer supreme actually lived up to its title before they changed it
Although the Ancient One has centuries of experience, the Scarlet Witch is stated to be more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme, and she managed to easily defeat both Doctor Strange and Wong.
yeah because strange didn't use any of his good spells due to stupid writing. He could have used the spell to wipe her memory. Could have punched her astral form out etc
@@naeemislam1105 Wanda defeated Xavier's telepathy, a memory spell isnt going to do anything. Strange pulls out her soul, so what?, she can use both, her physical and astral form at the same time. Strange is out of his league here.
@@ErioLight another typical stupid wanda fangirl. Stranges memory spell affected the whole world and almost caused the multiverse to collapse itself because it went wrong. Wanda overpowered xaviers telepathy is pure lazy writing. He could have just froze her like in the x men films. Strange didn't use any of the spells he used against thanos but on wanda. She looked more powerful than she is through lazy writing
@@naeemislam1105 lol scarlet witch in astral projection also dominates Dr strange
@@ErioLight all she did was kill Xavier within the mind scape Xavier could have done so much as shown in Logan when he just loses control of his power
I wonder 🤔 Who would win in a fight a bobcat vs a honey badger
honey badger
bobcat would definitely run away..
Writers give or take all wins.
Ancient one could probably make it a little interesting with her tricks but wanda is just too powerful. No sorcerer stands a chance against her.
I mean yeah its facts. Even the strongest sorcerer supreme according to the Ancient One (Steven Strange) is no match againts Wanda (The Scarlet Witch). "your power exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme". Words engraved in stone, contained within the darkhold
this might be a dumb question but is wanda’s reality magic faster than light?
i really dont get what are you saying but she can react to light speed attacks so she cant really be blitzed by any mcu character
@@pppppop8005 she can slow down time which is kinda like light speed in others eyes. It is reality warping. She can do anything she wants to do
@@lushdontu4015 yes exactly
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Actually in mirror dimension wanda becomes more poweefull because in miroor dimension reality warping is easier than normal universe
Chthon >>> Dormammu
Scarlet witch >>> ancient one
When those red sparkles start to shine in wandas hands the only option left to save ur life is run run across the multiverse..
Everyone is a gangster until the director himself decides who's gonna win 🙏😁
I think the Ancient One has lots of wisdom as well and I don't think she would trigger Wanda like Doctor Strange did.
Exactly
The ancient one was there when Queen Elisabeth was born. That’s how old she is…
I can’t wait for Shadow Fight to release their comic books. I feel like you can make some great matches with their characters. That’s if they make theme op or not
Agreed
Scarlet Witch💯🔥 Because she's a being of Unfathomable Magic
Wong said it himself haha 😁
Wanda wins no diff
Ancient One does better than Strange but still loses
No way she’s much much more Composed and strategic and intelligent than both Wanda and strange. Wanda cannot beat a focused and determined AO. Her skill and experience will win her this fight.
@@I7VCEPTION Fax
This is a good match up.
In raw power, it is Wanda but in terms of experience, it will be the Ancient one, it is a classic battle between talent (Wanda) vs skill (Ancient one) the thing with the ancient one is she uses dark magic too, she might have use the dark hold at one point but never shown physical manifestation of someone who uses dark magic. Like how Caesilus has dark eyes, Agatha, and Wanda has dark finger tips same with evil strange.
Right before the Ancient One gave Banner the time stone she told him that Strange was "The best of us." If he can't beat Wanda, then it's likely the Ancient One can't either.
Can you do Wanda hex vs mirror dimension
Though all things aside, the Illuminati should have waited for the Professor to arrive, or Reed give him a teleportation device like he used when he appeared at the council chamber. They were not going to stop her, and they didn’t have the might to do so. He should have researched her since he “was the smartest man alive”. He would have known that they would need the Professor as his ability was the only thing that would definitely give them a chance to defeat her.
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The ancient one wins remember agatha harkness told Wanda power isn't the issue its knowledge And the ancient one has more knowledge and experience than she do so she wins
EXACTLY. came here to say this!!!!!
and agatha told her that only moments after wanda found out who she was. and also before she took the darkhold for herself. then she literally trapped agatha, who also has centuries worth of experience, in her own mind
Thank you! idk if people gotta go & watch all of her clips again but she is BEASTLY but not only that, she could also just as easily talk Wanda out of watever she had in mind. The Ancient one had the most wisdom out of all the characters in the mcu
Wanda already has knowledge she a quick learner and we dont what more she can do from the spells in the darkhold she learned so much about her origins of chaos magic from the darkhold and powerful high level spells she shown in multiverse of madness and ancient one having experienced dont change the fact wanda still wins characters who haves more experience can still be beaten
Scarlet Witch destroys
I notice on your videos about Wanda your saying that she hold back thanos with 5 stones, Thanos only use the space stone not all
The other stones give immense power to the holder tho. Thanos was only using the space stone to block her attack. When Thanos puts a stone in his glove he absorbs some kind of energy from them therefore making him stronger. Wanda was able to hold him back with 5 stones enhancing him, while using the space stone to block it. All while she was blasting a hole through her lovers head containing the mind stone. Pretty impressive if you ask me
Please make a video of brother Voodoo vs the Scarlet Witch
The Ancient One once said that Dr. Strange is the most powerful among them sorcerers. But we all know that Wanda is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme (Dr. Strange not Wong) as per Agatha therefore by that principle we can say that the Scarlet Witch is more powerful than the Ancient One.
Well not just by that principle. In the comics she absorbed the darkhold a book containing near endless amount of spells incantations and prophecies. She also absorbed Chthon the person who's said to wipe out universes in a blink of an eye, basically she's night omnipotent
@@eclipsegaming979 I know lol
So what if Ancient one takes out her soul Like she did to hulk ..then who wins ?? A lifeless body or Ancient one !
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“Strange is meant to be the best of us.”
Am I the only one who thinks she meant it as in character and not power? 🙈
Disclaimer. This guy hates the Scarlet witch. Wanda easily wins this battle. The end
Scarlet Witch is basically Thanos with all stones + Max Power Dr Strange + The Ancient One + Dormammu + etc..
Her magic is far beyond anything else we have seen in the MCU. She doesnt need speed or strength or durability because her magic easily compensates for her lack of physicality. She can do anything the Infinity Stones can do and more.
If we saw realistic fighting, no plot armor stuff, there is no being in the MCU that could even draw blood.
Wanda loses cause she's too emotional..... All the ancient one gotta do is just tell Wanda that Billy & Tommy would not approve of what she is doing, & Wanda would stop & try to take herself out
True but wanda emotion is what makes her even stronger if you get angry then ancient one is dead in 1 second don't piss off the scarlet witch
@@kelvinhernandez17 Girl- don't even talk, you literally know nothing about AO 💀
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Here's a challenge Odin vs Wanda
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Saying Spiderman "beat" Dr.Strange is not accurate at all. Dr.Strange was not fighting to hurt or kill Peter.. he was just trying to get the box. It was almost like a bigger brother fighting their smaller brother.. but their little brother suprising them with something.
Edit: Also, just because someone is more "powerful" doesn't necessarily mean they automatically just win... Look at Strange vs Dormammu.. Dormamu is infinite times more powerful then Strange.. but Strange beat him from ingenuity and spells.
I feel like yes... Scarlet Witch is more powerful then Ancient one... but this is the Ancient one we're talking about. Her experience , cunning , intelligence , spells , ingenuity , and yes even her power make her such a huge threat.
I think Scarlet Witch is more powerful.... but Ancient One finds a way to win. Thats just me though.
Everytime when I think that the Ancient One could talk the Scarlet Witch down into stopping, I then remember the times it didn't work with Kaecilius and Doctor Strange in the What If series
You need to remake Scarlet Witch Vs Dark Phoenix again please. Especially with Wanda's power level now.
I think it’s close. Wanda has chaos and darkhold, but ancient one has dark dimension and time stone.
In the end, I think ancient one wins bc she can look through time like she and strange did before to figure out how to beat Wanda.
Also, If ancient one can find the vishanti book then I think she wins since vishanti balance out darkhold and she still has experience, power of dark dimension and time stone.
For people who said Wanda destroy a bunch of Sorcerer, so can ancient one. Remember that with the power from the dark dimension, kacilius was able to destroy the sanctums and since ancient one is more powerful than him and only died bc of plot device, she could do the same to those sorcerers, she just don’t want to.
Could you also do a fight comparison between soldier boy and hulk? My theory is soldier boy's power is growing and evolving. He never had a nuclear laser blast before and he survived his own self destruct move. He took on Butcher and the others on his own too.
Scarlet witch overpowering witch 🧙♀️ 🖤
When Agatha harkness read darkhold he told that scarlet witch is even stronger than sorcerer supreme
Wanda is the most powerful because Agatha said in Wandavision, she's meant to rule the world or destroy it, I think even in Mom state it
Clearly the Scarlet Witch
Kitty Pryde vs Vision
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She Just tap into her true power literally, after those two 📚 📖 books, but we don't know if she has already master but afyer this two she has definitely tap into her true power %
fun fact if like for example scarlet witch is mad or angry at the acient one because of this and that u know what will happen.
Is it bad I didn’t know she was a woman until I watched this vid?
Ancient one has vast amounts more experience. She could probably stop Scarlett Witch for awhile but eventually Scarlett Witch will adapt and win. Can you please do a verses video on Space Punisher Hulk vs World Breaker Hulk? Thanks 👍
ancient one lost to three sorcerer lmao
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Scarlet witch vs Doctor spectrum would be a good matchup!
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Idk
Ancient one
Doctor Strange
Doctor Strange easy
Captain marvel
Doctor Strange easy
HOM Scarlet witch
Ok, my two cents.
I'd still give it to the ancient one. She never shared her whole knowledge with her students. Also, her drawing power from the dark dimension while shielding herself from Dormammu is an incredible feat. Pretty sure she could do more against Kaecilius if she wanted, but I guess she was really tired of trying and living.
Wanda is powerful? Amazingly super powerful, but without the darkhold she's just powerful. Pretty sure the ancient one had Vishanti-like books with her that could counter the magic from the darkhold. She meant that Strange was the best of them (sorceress supremes and stuff), but because he would be pure. I'd still her dark dimensions would make her an formidable opponent against Wanda, even "stoned" Thanos.
Still, I give that fight to the ancient one.
@Crimson Horror this is not about allowance. It's just a testament of how powerful you are in matter of not allowing to be controlled, exactly what opposed when Wanda was corrupted by the darkhold. The ancient one was able to draw power from the dark dimension without being corrupted by Dormammu.
That alone is a testament of the mastery of her powers. She is just to OP for a Wanda that saw herself corrupted when her own children denied her. It wrecked her and she saw what a monster she became.
The ancient one is not more powerful than the SW, but she can definitely use her whole arsenal of magical talents and buy enough time for the "cure". She could purge the darkhold hold on Wanda with the Book of Vishanti or other white magic antidote.
buddy the darkhold in the mcu dont give you power
completely agree!!!
Dumb Wanda wins
The darkhold does not give power, only knowledge. Darkhold doesnt boost the user power.
Hey I want u to please make a redo of Thor vs scarlet witch... I watched the one u did one year ago, please after watching doc strange multiverse of madness I'm confused
I feel like ancient one in the MCU would not stand a chance if she lost to Kaecillius. Dr. Strange just has way more of an arsenal of spells than the ancient one has shown, with the ancient one focusing on mirror dimension and eldritch constructs while Strange with serpentine hydra hands, crimson bands of cyttorak, illusions/duplication, etc. One way to overpower a being who's more powerful than you is quite simply just outsmarting and having more tricks. Wanda could survive the mirror dimension and even influence the original dimension through it, even move her body while astral projecting and summon monsters that had a Dr. Strange variant literally die. Tbh, they should have built Wanda's power up and not just give her sudden jumps of power like that. Every single appearance she gets she exponentially powers up. She couldn't even contain an explosion for a long period of time but now she's surviving blasts from Captain Marvel and survived through the mirror dimension effortlessly and escaped without a sling ring.
Edit: I forgot to consider the control of gravity and terrain on the mirror dimension, but if Spiderman was able to manipulate terrain to some extent, I think Wanda could as well. Her levitation would already nullify most of the terrain manipulation, and she can just use her telekinesis on the ancient one without releasing a hex bolt that would bounce.
If you have watched WV you understand her power up in MOM
@@arianalikens5300 Don't worry I know she'd win but I was just describing how the ancient one can put up a fight. Wanda has access to the outside world even within the mirror dimension and can summon someone to let her out or even grab a sling ring. Ancient one can put up a fight though, and much more with her connection to the dark dimension in the mirror dimension.
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Base Wanda wins
Wanda wins
Kaecilius
Ancient one
Strange wins unless you're doing book gandalf Vs MCU strange
Oh Please Do Wanda vs Apocalypse.
She would be available to push her spirit out
Gonna have to go with SW pretty easily!
Ancient One is great until she meets, The New One. 😉
The Ancient One wins . She has experience and knowledge far surpassing Wanda. She doesn’t have to match her in raw power. Her Strategy and intelligence plus the power & skill she possesses gives her the major advantage. She’s aware of other universes & has soul manipulation. She can easily end the fight. If we’re gonna compare, let’s scale everything. The Ancient ones intelligence is WAY greater than most characters in the mcu Wanda included. Plus she has literally been shown to be somewhat omniscient. She knows what’s going to happen before it happens (though that may be attributed to the eye of agamotto but it’s still a tool she has at her disposal) she can literally control time. If you ask me she died because she wanted to.
@Sad B!tch why are we talking about Wanda from the comics ?
@Sad B!tch what’s years training with Captain America and black widow compared to centuries if not millennium of training with much more capable magical beings
And why do you keep glossing over the fact that Wanda is very emotionally unstable and corruptible. also you sound dumb because You don’t have to listen to my “bs” actually nobody told you to feel a type
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Way or comment a damn thing, that was completely your choice. Either way the fact remains that the ancient has more far more intelligence experience & mental stability than not only Wanda but 99% of the mcu. She can beat her & just about anyone else we’ve seen in the mcu thus far with wisdom alone. No violence needed. Have you actually seen what the mcu ancient one was capable of on all levels? Mentally spiritually and strategically? Wanda fights with extremely low intelligence and strategy levels comparatively…How can you just throw those facts to the side like they don’t matter shows bias on your side and an extreme lack of ability to scale combatants properly.
@Sad B!tch “her intelligence doesn’t surpass scarlet witch “ LMFAO see Now I know you’re just talking out of your ass and making shit up. Yes, Wanda is more powerful per say. We can all admit that right? but man If you can’t even admit that the ancient one is far more intelligent than Wanda than YOU are the one being biased because that’s simply absurd. She’s one of the most intelligent characters in the whole MCU, w intelligence levels comparable to Thanos/Kang/Tony/& reed. Your Arguments entire credibility was shattered once you said Wanda is more intelligent than the ancient one . This debate is over
@Sad B!tch YESSSSS
Pretty much sure Wanda is a walking infinity Gauntlet with infinite ammo✨
I agree one thousand percent......
And I don't ever think that this is the only time I think it was
Please put strange supreme vs scarlet witch, asking a long time 🙂
Take godess of chaos Wanda
Godess of chaos >>>> strange Supreme
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Wanda
wanda stomps, no matter how powerful jean is she's still had a limits like her human body which is easier for wanda to erased her out of existence.
@@Vincesjones Wanda has a human body too that Jean can easily disintegrate with a though. If Wanda was that powerful how come she never showed that level of power. Everyone wants to say that Wanda is this and that powerful but we don’t see it. With Jean, we do. In both the original Fox movies and the reboot.
It's not about wanda phychic body, it's about what she can do, even when jean disentegrate her wanda can ressurected herself immidiately, But right after she warped jean out of the existence then it's game over there is no way back even when jean got regenerative abilities.
Also in mcu wanda already described as multiversal threat while jean wasn't even close at galaxy level.
@@Vincesjones Wanda can’t resurrect herself in MCU that we’ve seen.
They introduced darkhold Wanda to MCU what about black priest strange or strange supreme?