This astonishing long running PBS series and now a podcast changed my life, by altering my perspective...... in a vast universe of a billion galaxies, billions of years and the infinitely small...AND the fine tuned perfection of a trillion miracles. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!
Even as living beings we come to attain our goals and evolve into a more advanced species, there will always be questions to be pursued. We will always have something intellectually to do as far as answering questions for all of eternity even after we become eternal beings ourselves. Reality is infinite.
Refuting the "forever universe" hypothesis with copying books analogy is a good one. Another one is for the universe to exist forever you imply that eternity passed before this moment. When in fact eternity can't pass by definition.
@XOPOIIIO of course, the cosmos coild be infinite with no logically inconsistent problems.. The real controversy, in my humble opinion, would arise if it were NOT infinite in scope..
@@Bill..N it was a question about infinity. Yes, hard to make sense of. The steady state model. If there the universe had no beginning, that describes infinity. It would take an infinite period of time for our solar system to exist. Yet here we are….
Up to a point yes. Beyond those limits no. We can mostly explain what we observe now in terms of models of past states, but not infinitely into the past. We may never have full explanations for everything.
@@simonhibbs887 Well you see, modesty is important. Claiming that we have a "g o o d idea" of how the universe was put together is quite misleading. Better to say, 'We think we have some idea.' Look at how he concluded. He thinks that there might be an eternal entity but such entity could not be a personal God. How does he know that? The role of science is to identify what exists but not to impose a limit on what should exist. He is going beyond the realm of science.
Time and space the big problem, we can't seem to comprehend the infinite with our finite perspective. What was before the Big Bang? It always seems to come back to space and time. We can try to think in O and 1's, but our minds are firmly rooted in 1 until we evolve into something else.
origin of universe, nature of time & nature of consciousness should be investigated along with one more issue that is reality. The reality is ultimate, and the universe is like a structure (a temporary hideout) that may be created and may be dismantled but reality will remain. Reality is deeply hidden and ultimate. In fact, we need another philosophy to decode the universe.
@@evaadam3635 what you experience as "soul" is a mental object sensed by mind in its function as a sense organ tasked with sensing mental objects such as thoughts, emotions, ideas... Soul is the same kind of object as Superman or Unicorn.
@@branimirsalevic5092...I see... so, you are just a physical organ enslaved by natural laws, no free choice and so NOT Accountable... good for you.. feeling just like an amoral animal.. why then were you able to choose to entertain fictional things such as superman and unicorn that has nothing to do with real material things or nature ? What physical law that drives your material organ to entertain fairy tales that defies physics ? ..by the way, who programmed this task for your organ to obey, is it GOD or Darwin's IGUANA ?
@@evaadam3635...prove that what you insist on calling a "soul" is anything more than an emotional mental state. Your unconscious mind is constantly doing things that you aren't aware of...and the eventual consciousness of some of this processing is most likely what leads to the mystical sense that you mention.
07:35 ... their God was apparently unoccupied for eternity.....had me chuckling😅 ... it's not just thought-provoking, but it's also fun to think about these ideas
As someone who has most of Paul's early hardcover books, I have a lot of respect here.. He is right in my humble opinion, but we might differ on whether or not TIME as a construct has a "beginning." I suspect that there are infinitely large numbers of big bangs (if you will) and space/time "islands" exist everywhere and forever..
We can never find deep reality in our present level of being: Human 2.0. We must make the critical upgrade to Human 3.0 first: th-cam.com/video/7djDy7kdPg0/w-d-xo.html
As Robin Williams insisted, reality is a concept. There is no deep, objective reality of the universe somewhere out there waiting to be discovered. Our notions of time, causation, the universe, and the multiverse change as we learn. Yet, some answers must be discarded along the way, creation being the most famous and logically lethal. The rational man learns to live with uncertainty. I'll show you my reality if you show me yours.
What do we learn from, if not the consistencies of nature? I agree our models of the world, in the form of our theories and beliefs, are only approximations. Nevertheless it seems like they are approximations of something.
Completely disagree. Religion is a local and temporal myth to explain what we don't know and the texts are generally said to be Devine and unchanging. So your stuck with talking snakes and virgin births and silly things like Adam and Eve in Catholicism. Sciences is an ever evolving and systematic approach based on observation and data and driven by scepticism and doubt. The only "faith" needed is that in the process
@@steveg6035..whatever imperfect men wrote on any tablet, scroll, or any book has nothing to do with the truth out there which is independent from whatever man thinks or writes....
space, time, mind, matter are sll fundamental. God, the supreme mind, is the FUNDAMENTAL CONTROLLING ENTITY of this reality who strings together all these disparate elements.
obviously deep reality is just a neo platonic black box of emergent everything. That is, it is probably somewhat similar to some AI latent space abstraction on a much grander scale and temporal diversity, which is meta entropically evolving itself towards auto representation and self referential understanding . The Universe/multiverse is but an mere emergent blip within in it with locally distinct spatio-temporal characteristics at a particular information coupling feedback. My guess is about ~1/24 in TOE-like dimensionless units..
Emergence is an idea concocted by those who hate Accountability, you know, just evolving by accident to no fault of their own, no choice, and so not accountable for the evil they become... Are you one of them ?
@@evaadam3635 huh lol? Just relating what my simple information agnostic cosmogenesis sim seemed to imply about state of things inside and outside of universe. hence the ~1/24 coupling value on optimal rate for inflationary states per statistics from 100,000 monte carlo runs. There's a small vdeo _my little toe_ on my channel with outputs logically from axioms> to emergent auto compactifying> patternings> to gaussian subset transtition with inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space feild projections from various background and topological dynamics. According to my sim which was intially an information based abiogenesis model(where those patterns in video derive). The universe(s) isn't(aren't) an accident, but the byproduct of very simple higher level processes compactifying information outside of universes and there effect on a gaussian like patches at ~1/24 internal coupling on the information state , hence the lowish entropy initial condition inside our universe ie entropy was packed outside a bit like how entropy is packed into the horizon of a blackhole. . In fact there's a kind of equivalence between information state inside blackholes and state outside of and near universes...
@@evaadam3635 huh lol? Just relating what my simple information agnostic cosmogenesis sim seemed to imply about state of things inside and outside of universe. hence the ~1/24 coupling value on optimal rate for inflationary states per statistics from 100,000 monte carlo runs.....
@@evaadam3635 There's a small vdeo my little toe on my channel with outputs logically from axioms> to emergent auto compactifying> patterning's> to gaussian subset transition with inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space field projections from various background and topological dynamics..
@@evaadam3635 I have a small vid _my little toe_ with outputs logically from axioms> to big picture abstraction> to emergent auto compactifying> patternings> to gaussian information subset with an inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space feild projections from various background and topological dynamics.
What's the hypothesis here? “There exists a nonphysical timeless something-or-other that brought the cosmos into existence.” 1. It is far from clear that this is even a distinctively theistic hypothesis. Suddenly, you can assign the label “god” to anything you want and pretend you are putting forward theism or that you are establishing theism! 2. How does that constitute an intelligible explanation for anything? An explanation is supposed to render intelligible the nature and existence of the universe. Explanations shed light. This hypothesis is shrouded in darkness. There is no intelligibility/comprehensibility to how the cosmos came into existence which should make you doubt whether an explanation has been given at all. This is not sophisticated theology. This is at best mysterious theology with little to zero explanatory power, at worst incoherent theology. Furthermore, it pushes back the question. Why does this nonphysical, timeless something-or-other exist at all? If that thing requires no explanation external to itself, well, we already have cosmos/nature the best candidate for that.
... you are carrying this timeless non-physical supernatural existence inside your head ALL YOUR LIFE that your material science still can not explain and understand, yet you did not even notice it... what happened to your IQ ?
@@evaadam3635 I am not a materialist. Nature/cosmos is about more than just the material/physical. It may as well be that nature/cosmos as a whole has mental properties. I am open to all of that. Anyway this timeless non-physical thing bringing cosmos into existence makes no sense, let alone a timeless conscious mind. Minds obviously are in time. What would it mean to have mental states but not have them at any time? All of that is unintelligible. Thank you!
@@anteodedi8937how can you say you are open if you think you are just a slave of time that you had claimed you can not do without... .... you say you are not a materialist but you behave like one who can not be open to make free choices because they think they are slaves to natural physical laws who already made the choices for them, feeling NO ACCOUNTABILITY... ...dude, being unintelligible is when you speak opposite things both sides of your mouth.... sigh..
..a deep reality to material science is that tiniest component of material existence that can not anymore be reduced..... ...but, the problem is, every time they thought they have found the tiniest irreduciable particle, they then later discovered that it can also be reduced... .. and so on and so forth, continuing this process, until the reduced parts can no longer be detected by their instruments, appearing like ghost particles which is impossible to know.... ..this sad and disappointing result of all their searches and experimentations had given birth to the "Uncertainty Principle Theory" that gave rise to Quantum Baloney that they are so proud of which is really the funny theory of "WE DO NOT REALLY KNOW"... we just do not want to lose our source of livelihood through your taxes... ...the Spiritual World of GOD is a Forbidden Knowledge.. Humans are only allowed to believe for our souls' salvation...
"How Did Our Universe Begin?" Consciousness or Awareness has NO BEGINNING because our aware souls are free splits of the Holy Spirit who has no beginning and no end... It is this Physical Universe, including our physical existence, that had a beginning and can end.. In the beginning is the "WORD" which does not mean man's vocal chords but means the vibration of spirits from a tiny portion of God's Spiritual World that had FUSED to form this Physical World... ... In other words, it is NOT explosion, infation, nor bigbang that formed the Universe but FUSION of spirits unreachable by human's limited senses.. ...but, according to Science MATERIALISTS whose IQs have diminished due to Godlessness, "if you blow up an unconscious rock into pieces with a grenade, its unconscious pieces will soon turn alive and conscious" - this is how their BIGBANG Garbage sounds like... very funny.. ...it is just so amazing how Godlessness can turn one's IQ into vegetable... so sad and concerning
What's truly concerning is someone who spouts about FUSION of spirits, then goes on to criticize the perceived IQ of others because they look for evidence and truth.
@@brad1368..if your peers are still looking for evidence and the truth, then they would not have removed the offering of faith in the CREATOR from schools to be replaced with Darwin's IGUANA as your Original Mama as if they already know the absolute truth..... this is definitely not an exercise of a fair search for the truth but arrogantly pushing your science toxic garbage, as the truth, inside the throats of our children who trusted you, when NO ONE really knows the truth about our origin.... this is actually a form of child abuse... ...why not just offer both faith in God and faith in your Irrational Theories in schools and let the children choose what makes more sense, because NO ONE really knows the truth, TO BE FAIR ? Why lie, pretending you know the truth ?
Davies is the best.
The ideas he expresses and the words he chooses make it a pleasure to listen to him every time without fail.
This astonishing long running PBS series and now a podcast changed my life, by altering my perspective...... in a vast universe of a billion galaxies, billions of years and the infinitely small...AND the fine tuned perfection of a trillion miracles. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!
Even as living beings we come to attain our goals and evolve into a more advanced species, there will always be questions to be pursued. We will always have something intellectually to do as far as answering questions for all of eternity even after we become eternal beings ourselves. Reality is infinite.
Refuting the "forever universe" hypothesis with copying books analogy is a good one. Another one is for the universe to exist forever you imply that eternity passed before this moment. When in fact eternity can't pass by definition.
@XOPOIIIO of course, the cosmos coild be infinite with no logically inconsistent problems.. The real controversy, in my humble opinion, would arise if it were NOT infinite in scope..
If the universe was forever with no beginning, how come we have arrived….. that defies the concept of infinity
@antbrown9066 Perhaps you could restate your counterpoint because with all due respect, it doesn't make sense to me..
@@Bill..N it was a question about infinity. Yes, hard to make sense of. The steady state model. If there the universe had no beginning, that describes infinity. It would take an infinite period of time for our solar system to exist. Yet here we are….
... but a universe with a beginning is also absurd, maybe equally absurd.
Deep reality we find at the observer.
Do we have a good idea of how the universe was put together and how it is behaving, as the guest says?
Yes, the lambda-cdm model of big bang cosmology
@@tcuisix Word salad
Up to a point yes. Beyond those limits no. We can mostly explain what we observe now in terms of models of past states, but not infinitely into the past. We may never have full explanations for everything.
@@peweegangloku6428 well you asked
@@simonhibbs887 Well you see, modesty is important. Claiming that we have a "g o o d idea"
of how the universe was put together is quite misleading. Better to say, 'We think we have some idea.'
Look at how he concluded. He thinks that there might be an eternal entity but such entity could not be a personal God. How does he know that? The role of science is to identify what exists but not to impose a limit on what should exist. He is going beyond the realm of science.
Trying not to think about something was my teenage Eureka moment where I realized my concept of self and free will needed an overhaul.
If the universe is infinite, then space is not expanding, only the distance between celestial objects.
Time and space the big problem, we can't seem to comprehend the infinite with our finite perspective. What was before the Big Bang? It always seems to come back to space and time. We can try to think in O and 1's, but our minds are firmly rooted in 1 until we evolve into something else.
Maybe we should be asking, why is it we're unable or are prevented from learning the answer to this very deep questions to begin with?
very interesting.
"Pretty certain" ? A clock indicates the existence of a clockmaker. "It is stranger than we can think". RBS Haldane.
origin of universe, nature of time & nature of consciousness should be investigated along with one more issue that is reality. The reality is ultimate, and the universe is like a structure (a temporary hideout) that may be created and may be dismantled but reality will remain. Reality is deeply hidden and ultimate. In fact, we need another philosophy to decode the universe.
"and the book sort of wrote itself " that's the answer
The closest we can come to reality is Sensation: a sense organ sensed "something".
Everything after that is mere interpretation.
...what about what your soul can mystically sense without the aid of your limited physical senses ?
@@evaadam3635 what you experience as "soul" is a mental object sensed by mind in its function as a sense organ tasked with sensing mental objects such as thoughts, emotions, ideas...
Soul is the same kind of object as Superman or Unicorn.
@@branimirsalevic5092...I see... so, you are just a physical organ enslaved by natural laws, no free choice and so NOT Accountable... good for you.. feeling just like an amoral animal..
why then were you able to choose to entertain fictional things such as superman and unicorn that has nothing to do with real material things or nature ? What physical law that drives your material organ to entertain fairy tales that defies physics ?
..by the way, who programmed this task for your organ to obey, is it GOD or Darwin's IGUANA ?
😂
@@evaadam3635...prove that what you insist on calling a "soul" is anything more than an emotional mental state. Your unconscious mind is constantly doing things that you aren't aware of...and the eventual consciousness of some of this processing is most likely what leads to the mystical sense that you mention.
07:35 ... their God was apparently unoccupied for eternity.....had me chuckling😅 ... it's not just thought-provoking, but it's also fun to think about these ideas
Get it in 2 your head
"gravity has 2 centres"
Ot your stuck between feynmans add einstines universe.
How did the pigeon man and heavyside proof it
As someone who has most of Paul's early hardcover books, I have a lot of respect here.. He is right in my humble opinion, but we might differ on whether or not TIME as a construct has a "beginning." I suspect that there are infinitely large numbers of big bangs (if you will) and space/time "islands" exist everywhere and forever..
So called "Deep Reality" cannot be described by any theory proposed by humanity.
We can never find deep reality in our present level of being: Human 2.0. We must make the critical upgrade to Human 3.0 first: th-cam.com/video/7djDy7kdPg0/w-d-xo.html
Davies is not Jewish, how does he know about all this?
We offer scienceman tong deep insite in too realitee. Lisen and lern our frute
As Robin Williams insisted, reality is a concept. There is no deep, objective reality of the universe somewhere out there waiting to be discovered. Our notions of time, causation, the universe, and the multiverse change as we learn. Yet, some answers must be discarded along the way, creation being the most famous and logically lethal. The rational man learns to live with uncertainty. I'll show you my reality if you show me yours.
What do we learn from, if not the consistencies of nature? I agree our models of the world, in the form of our theories and beliefs, are only approximations. Nevertheless it seems like they are approximations of something.
@@simonhibbs887 Yes, swimming in a sea of probabilities.
.. ultimate reality is not an object but a free independent non-physical SUBJECT..... you have one inside your head that only your self knows...
You contradicted yourself. You’re making a truth claim denying objective reality, which ironically negates the truth of your claim.
@@evaadam3635 how do you define “physical” in the context of your comment?
If God created space, time and matter, not sure why God can't be a personal God. But I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Science and religion have the same ontology (ultimate reality) and natural laws. Any conflicts between them are pure misunderstanding.
..willful choice is not a misunderstanding..
Completely disagree. Religion is a local and temporal myth to explain what we don't know and the texts are generally said to be Devine and unchanging. So your stuck with talking snakes and virgin births and silly things like Adam and Eve in Catholicism. Sciences is an ever evolving and systematic approach based on observation and data and driven by scepticism and doubt. The only "faith" needed is that in the process
@@steveg6035..whatever imperfect men wrote on any tablet, scroll, or any book has nothing to do with the truth out there which is independent from whatever man thinks or writes....
Clearly he is not aware of Nobel prize of physics 2022
everyone has an opinion, but no one knows anything.
space, time, mind, matter are sll fundamental. God, the supreme mind, is the FUNDAMENTAL CONTROLLING ENTITY of this reality who strings together all these disparate elements.
if it does not exist, it can not be fundamental such as what you call time and space....
Here's a hint open your eyes and look around you
space - time in classic reality, time - space in quantum mechanics?
..can you please bring us a cup of yesterdays and a basket of tomorrows if time exists ?
@@evaadam3635 Maybe you could send your belief in god back by return post.
@@simonhibbs887 try it, it is free.... faith in a Loving GOD not only may save your soul but may also restore your IQ...
The universe is deeply mysterious…awesome and somewhat creepy at times.
obviously deep reality is just a neo platonic black box of emergent everything. That is, it is probably somewhat similar to some AI latent space abstraction on a much grander scale and temporal diversity, which is meta entropically evolving itself towards auto representation and self referential understanding . The Universe/multiverse is but an mere emergent blip within in it with locally distinct spatio-temporal characteristics at a particular information coupling feedback. My guess is about ~1/24 in TOE-like dimensionless units..
Emergence is an idea concocted by those who hate Accountability, you know, just evolving by accident to no fault of their own, no choice, and so not accountable for the evil they become... Are you one of them ?
@@evaadam3635 huh lol?
Just relating what my simple information agnostic cosmogenesis sim seemed to imply about state of things inside and outside of universe. hence the ~1/24 coupling value on optimal rate for inflationary states per statistics from 100,000 monte carlo runs.
There's a small vdeo _my little toe_ on my channel with outputs logically from axioms> to emergent auto compactifying> patternings> to gaussian subset transtition with inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space feild projections from various background and topological dynamics.
According to my sim which was intially an information based abiogenesis model(where those patterns in video derive). The universe(s) isn't(aren't) an accident, but the byproduct of very simple higher level processes compactifying information outside of universes and there effect on a gaussian like patches at ~1/24 internal coupling on the information state , hence the lowish entropy initial condition inside our universe ie entropy was packed outside a bit like how entropy is packed into the horizon of a blackhole.
. In fact there's a kind of equivalence between information state inside blackholes and state outside of and near universes...
@@evaadam3635 huh lol?
Just relating what my simple information agnostic cosmogenesis sim seemed to imply about state of things inside and outside of universe. hence the ~1/24 coupling value on optimal rate for inflationary states per statistics from 100,000 monte carlo runs.....
@@evaadam3635 There's a small vdeo my little toe on my channel with outputs logically from axioms> to emergent auto compactifying> patterning's> to gaussian subset transition with inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space field projections from various background and topological dynamics..
@@evaadam3635 I have a small vid _my little toe_ with outputs logically from axioms> to big picture abstraction> to emergent auto compactifying> patternings> to gaussian information subset with an inflationary transition at ~1/24 coupling> to creating tri-layered(3D?) interface boundary information macro and dual micro topologies - the latter creating emergent spin state groups over sub space feild projections from various background and topological dynamics.
What's the hypothesis here?
“There exists a nonphysical timeless something-or-other that brought the cosmos into existence.”
1. It is far from clear that this is even a distinctively theistic hypothesis. Suddenly, you can assign the label “god” to anything you want and pretend you are putting forward theism or that you are establishing theism!
2. How does that constitute an intelligible explanation for anything? An explanation is supposed to render intelligible the nature and existence of the universe.
Explanations shed light. This hypothesis is shrouded in darkness.
There is no intelligibility/comprehensibility to how the cosmos came into existence which should make you doubt whether an explanation has been given at all.
This is not sophisticated theology. This is at best mysterious theology with little to zero explanatory power, at worst incoherent theology.
Furthermore, it pushes back the question. Why does this nonphysical, timeless something-or-other exist at all? If that thing requires no explanation external to itself, well, we already have cosmos/nature the best candidate for that.
... you are carrying this timeless non-physical supernatural existence inside your head ALL YOUR LIFE that your material science still can not explain and understand, yet you did not even notice it... what happened to your IQ ?
“At worst incoherent theology”
Do you think you be have coherence, explanatory power, and consistency by starting to reason autonomously?
@@evaadam3635 I am not a materialist. Nature/cosmos is about more than just the material/physical. It may as well be that nature/cosmos as a whole has mental properties. I am open to all of that. Anyway this timeless non-physical thing bringing cosmos into existence makes no sense, let alone a timeless conscious mind. Minds obviously are in time. What would it mean to have mental states but not have them at any time? All of that is unintelligible.
Thank you!
@@deanodebo I am not sure if I understand your question. Perhaps you can rewrite it.
@@anteodedi8937how can you say you are open if you think you are just a slave of time that you had claimed you can not do without...
.... you say you are not a materialist but you behave like one who can not be open to make free choices because they think they are slaves to natural physical laws who already made the choices for them, feeling NO ACCOUNTABILITY...
...dude, being unintelligible is when you speak opposite things both sides of your mouth.... sigh..
What does deep reality even mean as a concept?
That guy looksnlike my uncle in a photo from 1962
..a deep reality to material science is that tiniest component of material existence that can not anymore be reduced.....
...but, the problem is, every time they thought they have found the tiniest irreduciable particle, they then later discovered that it can also be reduced...
.. and so on and so forth, continuing this process, until the reduced parts can no longer be detected by their instruments, appearing like ghost particles which is impossible to know....
..this sad and disappointing result of all their searches and experimentations had given birth to the "Uncertainty Principle Theory" that gave rise to Quantum Baloney that they are so proud of which is really the funny theory of "WE DO NOT REALLY KNOW"... we just do not want to lose our source of livelihood through your taxes...
...the Spiritual World of GOD is a Forbidden Knowledge.. Humans are only allowed to believe for our souls' salvation...
Believe in God
"How Did Our Universe Begin?"
Consciousness or Awareness has NO BEGINNING because our aware souls are free splits of the Holy Spirit who has no beginning and no end...
It is this Physical Universe, including our physical existence, that had a beginning and can end..
In the beginning is the "WORD" which does not mean man's vocal chords but means the vibration of spirits from a tiny portion of God's Spiritual World that had FUSED to form this Physical World...
... In other words, it is NOT explosion, infation, nor bigbang that formed the Universe but FUSION of spirits unreachable by human's limited senses..
...but, according to Science MATERIALISTS whose IQs have diminished due to Godlessness, "if you blow up an unconscious rock into pieces with a grenade, its unconscious pieces will soon turn alive and conscious" - this is how their BIGBANG Garbage sounds like... very funny..
...it is just so amazing how Godlessness can turn one's IQ into vegetable... so sad and concerning
What's truly concerning is someone who spouts about FUSION of spirits, then goes on to criticize the perceived IQ of others because they look for evidence and truth.
@@brad1368..if your peers are still looking for evidence and the truth, then they would not have removed the offering of faith in the CREATOR from schools to be replaced with Darwin's IGUANA as your Original Mama as if they already know the absolute truth..... this is definitely not an exercise of a fair search for the truth but arrogantly pushing your science toxic garbage, as the truth, inside the throats of our children who trusted you, when NO ONE really knows the truth about our origin.... this is actually a form of child abuse...
...why not just offer both faith in God and faith in your Irrational Theories in schools and let the children choose what makes more sense, because NO ONE really knows the truth, TO BE FAIR ? Why lie, pretending you know the truth ?