For those complaining about the stop sign coming out as cars are passing, let me give you a tip. Buses don't just have a stop sign, they also has yellow caution lights that start blinking about 10-15 seconds before the bus actually stops. A bus always stops before the sign comes out. I've never in my life seen a bus with the sign out before it stops. Fact in, the oncoming motorist should of already been slowing down due to the caution lights, KNOWING the stop sign is about to pop out at any second. Caution lights means the bus is slowing down and about to stop. Stop sign means stop, children are getting off.
Sometimes the driver will flash the yellow lights for a long time before the stop sign goes out. You never know when the sign will come out. A good school bus driver would be aware of the cars around them and not put the sign out one second before a car is passing the bus.
WHEN WE OPEN THE DOOR IT AVIVATED. SO AFTER THE STOP SIGN COMES OUT IS WHEN THEY NEED TO STOP, YELLOW LIGHTS LETS THEM KNOW WE ARE ABOUT READY TO STOP.
Sheron Windsor I still have to hold the same position on this, watch at 0:59 the bus wasn't even stopped yet and the sign comes out right when the cars front bumper is passing the buses, there is just no danger what so ever not to mention it's really not illegal since the stop sign wasn't out yet. It may well be against better judgement to not stop when you see the yellow flashing lights however the way they are ticketing in this video is just wrong and comes across as a form of entrapment.
95Turbo you are a fucking idiot right? you must be. because the yellow warning lights come on WAY before the bus stops to let people know to slow down and stop. if you dont slow down and just try to drive through the yellow warning lights you are a terrible driver and should not be on the road as you just put others in danger.
Listen up....The school bus is equipped with amber and red lights that are activated 300 feet PRIOR to the stop. This is the traffics warning that the BUS is coming to a STOP. Pay attention to the warning lights and you wont get a ticket for running the stop.
Hey dip shit that bus lights don't turn on till it stops so if it's driving and stops do you except a car to slam it's brakes and most likely wreck such horse shit
+Leslie K So what if it has amber lights? Amber lights don't mean shit it could just be hazard lights. They teach you in driving school to stop when the stop sign comes out they don't say anything about any amber lights.
I don't know where you, rsx123 or you Kevin Buton, live but in the United states of American, in ALL states, ALL school buses are equipped with Amber lights that are directly aside the RED lights at the top of the bus. When a school bus is coming to a bus stop, the driver is to activate the AMBER lights PRIOR to the actual stop. So the bus gives all cars warning that it will be stopping soon. In New Jersey we are to activate the amber lights 300 feet prior to the actual bus stop. That is approximately 3 utility poles distance apart. Just like an amber light at an intersection. Depending on the rate of speed permitted on the roads that intersect at that light the amber light comes on and stays on for 3 to 5 seconds before the red light. I suggest you google for a little information on how the lights work on a school bus
+Leslie K School buses all over the world have the same lights and stops sign. You are just reading comments from idiots that don't know crap. When I was a kid I almost got ran over by an idiot that didn't stop and passed the bus at a high rate of speed.
They should only hand out tickets to drivers who where a reasonable distance from the bus when the yellow lights came on. Not to drivers where the bus flung the door open, without first arming the amber lights for a reasonable distance to warn others of the bus stop. Usually I never have this problem around where I live, yet some people run through the red lights even after they were on for a minute! Don't wanna run over some kids! You can speed all over town (yeah I said it, get bent) but not near buses or schools...
Huh? I know you! You're the asshole that drives too fast all the time and almost hit a kid getting off my school bus. I drive school busses and I know you!
I will admit this bus driver was a bit unpredictable because she stopped so quickly and barely gave distance for the drivers to stop, if the school system is in a large city i would honestly recommend the school have children’s bus stops arranged on or near crosswalks. In basics most people know to slow near a cross walk, it’s called stopping distance and most people will be able to slow at a cross walk ( where stopping is expected ) and will be less likely to run the bus lights. But if you paid attention in drivers ed you’d know that on most of these roads there is a ‘child at play’ or ‘bus’ sign that signals to drivers to be cautious with their driving and be ready to stop. Look for other videos on this topic and you’ll see that no matter how much stopping distance these people are given they will still run the sign, or in some cases they’ll even hit children.
@@cinderheartmeow6032 school bus stop sign means you stop unless denpending on state law where there is a physical barrier dividing you and the school bus there are many places that don't have marked crosswalks so the bus has to pickup or drop off the kid closer to their house and if you hit a school bus that's your fault not the bus driver that's why you don't need to be tailgating if you can't learn to follow the rules of the road then you shouldn't be driving.
literally waiting for cars to be 4 feet on top of the bus and then opening the door expecting the car to stop at atleast 30 mph and then issuing a ticket.... wtf talk about a trap
@@voxorox Red lights are stationary they don't drive toward you..... no it is not like a red light. How are you supposed to know when a bus is going to stop you can't read the drivers mind.
This is BS. What they are pretty much saying is they want people to slam on their brakes and skid to a stop even if they pop the sign out at the last second. Total bullshit.
no it's not be your wrong because if the school bus didn't have stop signs think on how many kids get kill gust because u think that this is bs. what if some one runs your kid over if u get one up will want the police to get the person so think on what u r saying
+BFES & BPS Videos the lights flash yellow while the driver is breaking, they turn red when they fully stop and engage the stop sign. So pretty much they want you to start to slow down when you see the yellow lights, not "slam on their brakes and skid to a stop" when they finally turn red.
+BFES & BPS Videos No this is a Good lesson for you everyone this is why local,state and county agencies are setting up stings to get drivers like you to stop or Yield to a pedestrian what ever the situation. The state and county but also government agencies does stings to where if you don't stop at a train crossing for the train you get a ticket and depending on your records you be arrested.
+Jadenlid No, they are required to turn on Big Yellow Lights certain distance before stopping so drivers know that it will stop. When the bus stops, the red lights are activated.
I guess so. The thinking behind it is that if you're in an intersection and the light turns yellow you stop unless its dangerous or you're passing through. The same applies to a school bus, if the light turns yellow you stop unless its dangerous or you are passing through it. They shouldn't be ticketing for the yellow though but they treat the bus as if it were a traffic light.
+bitchesaintshit buthoesntricks I mean they do that as a courtesy. But that's the reason for the lights. Also, if they get to the stop early and the students haven't arrived they'll wait without turning the reds.
Jadenlid, when flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light at an intersection. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
You should be slowing down when the yellow lights come on. They put those lights on 150 FT prior to the store so there is NO excuse not to slow down and stop
+Benzin Trinker Well that makes sense that he would do it like a gangsta doesn't it? I mean, he is a member of the Police (pronounced Poe-lease), the biggest gang of all............isn't he?
You can't expect a car with someone behind them to stop when traveling at the posted speed limit when they're 100 feet away when the stop arm comes out. The second one, for sure, had no time to react. The bus driver is flipping the red lights on and opening the door before she is stopped to intentionally make a No stop case. Just watch and you'll see what I mean...
Thomas Neumann The driver presses a button to activate the warning lights. The stop sign does not extend until the door is actually opened. I agree with 2010V6RAV4, the driver is activating the lights and stopsign when a vehicle would have no chance of stopping. Most sane drivers will have the bus stopped, with lights on, until traffic is clear or far enough off that they can stop safely. This case here, is just stupid. This is also why I like driving with a dashcam.
Silent Paw here in ohio when you see the yellow flashing lights on a school but you just fucking stop. its not like a yellow stop light that you can just fucking blow through on the road its a yellow light telling you the bus IS GOING to stop so you just fucking stop. if you go through when the light is red and you are to close big fucking woop! you fucked up and deserve the maximum fine.
When flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light as you would on a traffic light. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
Bus drivers are required to activate the yellow flashing lights on the bus at least 100 feet before stopping while in a 35 mph zone or less, and at least 300 feet when they are in a speed zone of 35 mph or more. One idea is to treat the yellow flashing lights on the bus as being red. In other words, plan on stopping if you can. If you are already going around or meeting the bus and the yellow flashing lights come on, then of course you would continue. If you are way back and the yellow lights start flashing, then plan to stop unless for some reason the situation dictates otherwise. Driving past or meeting a school bus transporting children can be a hazard, so again, slow down and be prepared to stop if needed. Remember that when you stop for a school bus stop arm and sign, you have to stop at least 20 feet away from the bus, and you can’t start moving your vehicle until the sign goes in and the red lights stop flashing. This information is for you Idiots that don't understand.
Thank you. I can't beleive how many idiots are in here. You really can't stop and wait 30 seconds so kids can get on a bus safely? We had a high school girl killed here because another high school kid blew past a bus stopped with its lights on. His truck was a POS and he could barely see out the window or some shit. Also anyone claiming the drivers didn't have enough time to stop. Any bus I've seen requires the yellows to be activated, then the reds are activated by opening the door or pressing the button on the handle to open the door. There is no way to activate the reds without the yellows first.
Clyde May uh yeah. Of course it is the driver's fault. Why wouldn't it be? What is your opinion on a driver blowing a red light and hitting and killing a pedestrian that is crossing the intersection? Who is at fault there?
OK. All these people complaining about them not having enough time to stop...Have you ever seen a school bus? They have lights up top to warn drivers when they are coming up to a stop. Also most of these you cannot activate the red stop lights without activating the yellow ones first. The driver activated the yellows, then once the door is open , or the button to open the door is pressed, the red lights activate. So it would be impossible to have the red lights on if they did not activate the yellows.
I've seen people pass the school bus from behind, on a road with one lane on each side. I would have loved to pull out in front of them so they would stop but, then I would be on the wrong side of the road as well!!
Yes I love how the cop at 1:59 is driving with no hands on the wheel while looking down at something I wonder if they are taught that at the academy or what? and I love how the bus driver put's the stop out as the car is driving right beside the bus are they supposed to slam on there brakes and maybe cause a accident
Hey idiot the yellow flashing lights give you plenty of time to get ready to stop the yellow flashing light means get ready to stop not step on it the flashing red light means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
Ben Fowler I strongly agree with you, but the only thing is if they add cameras to all the buses, then buses will be more expensive to make, making a decrease amount of buses.
What people don’t get, is that when the yellow lights are flashing you are supposed to slow down to prepare to stop immediately at a moments notice. That’s why they are doing this.
@@DD-1996 She pulled the sign to stop while the truck was beside her and then says it didn't stop. Do you people understand now. SMH. What the fuck does my mind have to do with what my eyes I just seen. I swear you people need punched in the mouth sometimes
+hbkgreatestever No, there are two red lights on top of the bus that flash before the bus stops. That is to warn you to slow down. The stop sign is deployed when the bus stops. So the tickets would stand.
When the yellow lights come on you should be slowing down and stopping. The yellow lights come on 150 FT prior to the stop so there is NO excuse to not slow down and stop
yellow does not mean stop tho.. my argument is a car slowing down is also getting fined if they wait for the car to come right up next to them before they pull out the stop sign. yellow means slow down and prepare to stop, not stop.
Entrapment!!!! How the hell can someone stop when they are on top of the bus right at the hood. cars can't stop on a dam dime.. at :58 seconds she flings the door open engaging the stop arm. The black automobile is right in line with the hood of the bus. That is not enough time for them to come to a complete stop. if the driver of the black automobile got a ticket he or she should have hopefully sued for entrapment.
I can't agree more with that. You are right. I'm willing to bet money that the bus driver doesn't open the door that quickly when the camera isn't rolling. People like attention...its not safe to slam on your brakes when you're that close, especially with cars behind you.
The stop arm is not tied to the door opening mechanism. The stop sign and lights are generally on before the bus comes to a stop and they open the door. The door opening has nothing to do with when you have to stop, when the stop sign is out and the lights are on, you stop.
hzuiel You don't know school buses, apparently. Having been a passenger on a school bus not even two years ago, I know very well how they work. On some opening systems, especially that one, there is either a button to press to activate the warning lights, or a switch that is triggered by pulling the handle. The stop arm is activated once the (second) switch is triggered, by opening the door, even slightly. On that type of door system, that's exactly how it works. She has to press a button, then open the door to activate the stop arm. That will also activate, even when you're doing 60mph down the interstate.
When flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light as you would on a traffic light. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
haha. Finally some one with some sense. I can't believe all these people bitching, acting like they have never seen a school bus before. Every bus I have seen you must activate the yellows before the reds will activate. It is impossible to activate the reds without the yellows as a warning.
I'm in Atlanta, GA and our school buses here actually can activate the reds without the yellows. Some forget to turn on the caution lights and they'll open the doors and notice that the stop arm isn't out and then his the button which automatically brings out the reds without the yellow's. The newer buses they have now are better at alerts so drivers can tell clearly if their lights aren't on or if they are.
If it's cool to run the stop sign on a bus then I guess we can run all stop signs right? Glad you cop blockers are out there fighting for our right to break laws.
I've been driving for 17 years, and I've yet to get a ticket. Don't like tickets, or "revenue collection" or whatever other stupid buzzword you Hillary-voting leftist libtards are calling it now? STOP BREAKING THE LAW. Or at least go back to school and learn how to fucking drive.
I could watch this ALL day. Zero sympathy for people who do this. And anyone saying "they trapped them by waiting until they were passing to turn on the lights" is wrong because the flashing yellows first mean prepare to stop.
+jeepthing98 prepare but not to stop and you see that bus still moving so you know you will pass the bus but driver even didn't come to a complete stop before opening the door
+adilusa. Doesn't matter. You start to slow down and prepare to stop when those yellow lights comes on. Apparently you don't care about the safety of children on board those buses. Thereby you should have your license pulled from you.
hhds113 and I would say even more, some drivers turn yellow lights like 500 feet away from the spot they going to stop and as you saying I have to stop and wait until bus passes me and keeps going? Noway
Good work, officers. Bust these boneheads who ignore the LAW about stopping for a school bus. For those of you who comment on this video saying there wasn't time for the drivers to stop, you're flat WRONG. A bus gives ample warning with flashing yellow lights, so if you're paying attention, you know that a stop is about to happen. Obey the law, and stop endangering young, innocent lives (our children) with your inattentive and dangerous driving. I hope these drivers all received an expensive citation!
Yes, you are correct. However, bus drivers should also be courteous enough to not activate stop arm when you are mere feet from the front bumper. Any good bus driver will allow traffic to pass before activating the stop arm. I very much agree with those claiming that this is entrapment. With one or two vehicles within a short distance, the driver can wait five seconds for the vehicles to pass before the kids are even let off the bus.
Silent Paw you are an idiot. this is not entrapment. when the lights start flashing yellow you dont just speed through like a yellow light on a road. you fucking stop. there are kids on board so any excuse is bullshit. YOU STOP and that is that.
Silent Paw Sorry, Paw, but those lights mean something and drivers are given ample time to slow down and stop. The bus drivers have enough to do and more important things to think about to safely transport their precious cargo, our kids. Considering the traffic behind them to pass before activating the stop signs is a noble idea, but I don't want them to have to do that. If you're behind a school bus, be prepared to stop! Entrapment? Of course not!
Rick Hilton You're absolutely right, in the thought that drivers should be more courteous to buses. You mentioned that allowing traffic behind to pass is a good idea. I don't care about traffic behind, they stop when the bus does. In Ontario, where my knowledge is coming from, as long as that stop arm has not extended, you are not /required/ to stop, if in oncoming lane. [Buses have signage on the back, 'Do Not Pass When Signals Flashing'] Bus drivers take advantage of that fact and stop with the warning lights on, before opening the door, letting the kids off, and allowing the stop arm to extend. This allows fast travelling, oncoming traffic to clear, without them having to slam on the brakes and cause a three car pileup. In this video, I observed the bus driver opening the door, at times, before the vehicle even stopped fully. We need to understand that while yes, kids are on the bus, they are not let off, until it is safe for them to do so. Or, so is the idea. That door is the last line of defence, so to speak. If the driver waits for approaching traffic to stop fully, with the door just slightly open, the stop arm extended, but the door not open far enough for kids to get through (This is not difficult with older models,) then there is very little risk of injury or death. In a perfect world, with ideal conditions, what you say about drivers being given enough time to slow and stop, that would be true. Unfortunately, all lights and bus functions are at the control of the bus driver, and each driver may have different timing, or may not give enough advanced warning for other vehicles. When I suggest that this video shows entrapment, I cannot see the ambers flashing, and thus do not know when they are activated. All I can see is the door being thrown open to extend the stop arm, with another vehicle a very short distance from the front of the bus. Around here, if a driver was faced with that situation, a vehicle approaching, most drivers would not activate the stop arm, until after that first vehicle had gone, as it was too close to stop safely.. Once the second vehicle clearly begins slowing, then the driver would activate the stop arm. Yes, the first driver should have slowed when they saw the warning lights, but, for whatever reason, perhaps they did not see, coming around a curve. Drivers should be attentive, yes. But, it sometimes happens. We don't live in a perfect world. I wish we did, though. It would solve a lot of problems.
Please stop a little earlier = slam on the brakes and skid to a stop, then the cops bust you for that. This is why I stay off the streets when school lets out.
Nic Neufeld If it only worked that way. I have seen buses maybe flash twice, hit the brakes, the kids inside hold on for dear life, slam to a stop, and its red before you can react.
@@MrBates-oi9md that not an excuse to illegally pass a stop school bus the yellow lights come on 200 ft before the stop which gives you plenty of time to stop and flashing red lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
People who disregard the stopping bus should have their drivers license revoked for an automatic 30 days, and be required to take the rules of the road written and driving tests as well as have their eyes tested before they can drive again. There's no excuse for that shit!
To the tools who think this is entrapment... All school busses display amber lights signaling they are about to stop, several seconds before they stop, red lights are displayed. They knew the bus was stopping and disobeyed anyway and if the police were taking several officers off Patrol to do this, clearly it is enough of a problem that they had to address it.
The whole "stop for buses" law (not sure the proper name) is completely idiotic, we don't have to do that for public buses and school buses should be no different. If a child needs to cross the street, they need to do so at a cross walk where it is designated, not right where the bus drops them off. This is one of the many reasons why people in america are becoming sheep. When I was a kid (I'm 24 now) if I ran into the street and got hit by a car, guess who's fault it was. MINE! You know why? I'll tell you, it's because I was the stupid kid who ran into the road in front of a car instead of looking both ways and crossing at the proper place. If we would just go back to people looking out for themselves we would be a whole lot better off. We'd go back to the intelligent surviving and the stupid dying which would make our generations a lot more intelligent as time goes on. As it is now, we are keeping people alive who are at most a detriment to future society.
100% agreed. I feel like our current "education system" is actually dumbing us down in the long run, and you gave a perfect example of why. This is the reason people expect so much out of the government and depend on welfare programs, instead of supporting themselves. (Excluding the elderly and disabled which I understand they depend on some program of support). But if you're completely able to get off your lazy ass and get a job, you're independent enough to support yourself. This is the problem with current day Americans. They see all the benefits they can get by making excuses and not having to put forth any effort.
In rural areas or counties thag don't offer cross walks like back roads and little 2 lane roads where sidewalks don't exist and public transportation is not an option your argument is invalidated and idiotic.
Let's Plays Public buses have mostly 16+ where people actually know this. Anyone from 3-18 can be on a school bus so I doubt a 4 year old in this age is that smart.
+Let's Plays Public buses usually have more adult passengers than children. People who KNOW right off to look both ways before crossing.School buses have mostly children who may NOT know to look both ways. Don't make assumptions like that. And you know, there aren't crosswalks everywhere. Where I live, there are NONE. So while I think you had the right idea, it isn't fool proof. You gotta remember we're talking about young children here, people who don't have the same common sense as you do. They're still learning.
Sydney P Perhaps, but if they are so young that they do not have the ability to cross the street properly or are not intelligent enough to do so for some reason, they should have an adult accompany them. If crosswalks are not available, there are implied crosswalks at every 4 way stop. Also, buses carrying students should ALWAYS stop in traffic minimal areas or in designated bus stop areas (in larger cities with public transit). I believe that there are laws governing where a bus can and cannot stop as well which many school bus drivers do not obey simply because they know that an officer will not stop them for such an "oversight" of the law.
What BS, she flips her little sign out before drivers can react. They'd have to come to a screeching halt and get rear ended to stop in time for this bus.
You guys need to retake your drivers test. When the caution lights are out you suppose to slow down to a complete stop not keep driving. Same thing for intersections but people are not cautious or care to do that. Everyone is caught up in their little world and ignorant of their surroundings. Note: buses turn on their caution lights (yellow), don't go by the red lights. Don't be like, "oh I don't see the STOP sign, I'm going to keep going", don't be ignorant just slow down to a complete stop idiots.
+KakarotAkaGoku OR more States need to do what they did in Michigan... you must stop for the caution lights, no need to wait for the red lights or the stop sign etc. As soon as the lights come on, you should stop if safe to do so, obviously no need if you are already within a couple car lengths (~15 feet).
The stop arm is tied in to the red lights and the door. When the door handle is popped the circuit activates the red lights and the stop arm, regardless of how far the door is open. Some buses have a lever with a hole which fits over a "bolt" on top of the handle. When the lever is flipped up and the handle pops out from the locked position, the yellow lights shut off and the reds kick on and at the same time the stop arm extends.
Zack Albright The yellow lights come on 150 ft before the stop so there is NO excuse for not slowing down and watching for where the bus is stopping if you are coming towards the bus
In order for those cars to stop in time, they would have had to slam the brakes and skid in the roadway, creating another hazard. He told that one guy "stop a little earlier, okay?" With the forward acceleration of his car, I hardly believe he would be able to decelerate and come to a complete stop safely. That one was a little messed up.
Hey idiot the school bus yellow lights are flashing ahead of time it means get ready to stop not step on it red flashing lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
Iam an Indiana school bus driver and I can tell you from experience that school bus laws are unrealistic. Think about it the other drivers know the bus is going to stop but don't know exactly where the bus is going to stop, most of which slow down but are too close to the bus to stop safely when the driver deploys the stop arm. I had a car almost get rear ended last week for stopping abruptly for my school bus. Ive even had semi trucks stop next to my bus because they couldn't get stopped in time and causing the kids to have to run around stopped trucks to get on the bus causing another dangerous situation. I always hold students on the bus until all traffic is completely stopped before I even open the door.
you have the yellow lights to warn you that the bus is going to stop. if it was your kid and a car went through red lights you would be mad. think of the children
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I am not provided flashing lights and stop signs when I cross the street. Why are their lives more important than mine? This is a completely ageist policy. Senior citizens don't even get this treatment and they are slower than 1st graders. Not to mention the fact that this kind of thing slows me down.
deaners09 what if he needed to get to his house? then he can wait 5 motherfucking seconds for a car to pass, like every other country, every other road and every other human being does, not forcing the road to come to a stop so some kid can cross a dam street. dont try and defend your stupid law
Well first let me tell you just how cool and educated with your swearing..... Dude they're kids. Most of the time I looked both ways when I was little and was going to cross mostly cuz my momma would have whooped me if I didn't but kids make mistakes sometimes. Also what if its a really busy road and its hard to cross. This just makes it safer for everyone. Nothing worth getting to worked up about. God bless Brotha
If police would reasonably enforce all traffic laws like this, they would pay for all the costs of their police department and the roads would be safe for law abiding drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians. Additionally, those that constantly break traffic laws, who pose higher insurance risks, would get appropriately higher insurance rates. Safe, law abiding drivers would get appropriately lower rates. Everyone wins except high risk law breakers.
Yes, but those hazard lights are not just for letting kids off a bus(even if it was more likely) That would cause more confusion for instance if the bus was breaking down and simply pulling off to the side with no plans to pick up or drop off anyone. What NEEDS to be done is actual "bus stops" to be built like we have for public transportation. That would be much safer and people would know exactly what is going on.
All school buses flash yellow lights when coming to a stop indicating to the oncoming driver to slow down, then they flash red a good few seconds before they actually come to a stop again telling the driver to stop and giving them time to do so, then the sign goes out. You will learn this in drivers training when you are old enough.
When I had someone want to argue with me about stopping; I’d ask them to define what stop meant? Most couldn’t. Then I would tell them and add an analogy. Stop: the cessation of movement. If I were beating and you told me to stop, would you be happy if I kept hitting you by just slowing down? They got the point. Retired 20 years ago.
As a former PA State Trooper, this is whats called entrapment and snatch. At which these State Troopers are commiting a fraud to the system at which they are suppose to protect.. So in my personal opinon, all the drivers who were caught running past the school bus should contact lawyers and have the tickets thrown out, because the only one who can issue the tickets is the officer who observed the offense which were on the bus, not in the patrol cars.
Technically doesnt mean to hurry and blow through it. Thats what people judge it as. Yellow just means, its bout to turn red and if you have the time to stop, then stop, if you dont, then go through it. Once a bus comes to a stop the red light comes on. You should be well prepared to stop before it stops. Same goes with the stop light, you dont stop right as it turns red, you get prepared to stop before it turns red.
Ok, people. School Buses have TWO sets of lights, Yellow, and Red. When the Yellow are flashing, that means the bus is coming to a stop, and you need to SLOW DOWN and PREPARE to STOP, just like when a traffic light turns yellow. None of these cars were slowing down at all... Doesn't matter if the bus didn't stop yet, a kid could have started crossing the road from the other side of the street to get on the bus...
Buses have a caution light genius. A flash yellow light, means to slow down. They turn them on way before they stop. Its the same principle as a stop light at an intersection.
That would be like saying if a police officer saw someone get murdered but lost the suspect during a chase, another officer can't arrest him because he didn't see it. A police officer is a police officer.
Have you ever seen a school bus? They run YELLOW lights first signaling to slow down and prepare to stop, then RED to stop. No BS, just drivers not paying attention.
The amber warning lights activated 200 feet prior to the stop is ample warning. That warns the motorists that the red lights will be activated immediately upon the bus stopping. The motorists need to start slowing down when they see the ambers in anticipation that the bus will be stopping and the reds activated. You, as a school bus driver should know this. The red lights on top of the bus are already flashing even if the stop arm is still in the process of deploying.
One of our buses that I drove was great during the pre-trip inspection, but when I went to drop off kids, I opened the doors and the yellows remained on. The lever switch got stuck and I had to poke at it and it worked normally. Cars did pass, but since the yellows were on, no violation of the law.
Amber warning lights are to be activated at 100 feet going 35 or less, 300 feet going 36 and over. I open my door to activate my red lights but I NEVER let the child off the bus until vehicles have stopped. They had also been trained to never cross a road unless I give them the okay.
I think the people below that are making excuses for these drivers wouldn't have kids that ride the bus or wouldn't work with kids at all. As a teacher, it's shocking when kids tell me they were nearly run over while trying to get on the bus because cars constantly pass the bus with the lights on.
+Myles Gray How the hell does a kid almost get run over by cars on the opposite side of the road? Like how does this effect them entering the door of the bus, which is next to the curb? Are these kids running across the road or something?
For those who say that them drivers never had time to Stop, the bus lights flash yellow when they’re first activated indicating that you must prepare to stop!!
I'm a deputy and they need to give these drivers time to stop, not throwing up the sign and expect the drivers to stop quickly. They will still slide through the intersection after hitting the brakes that qiuck
For people saying people don't have enough time to stop... yes they do. The YELLOW lights are on BEFORE the reds/stop sign come out, which is the SAME as a yellow light on a traffic light. People just don't care until it's THEIR child at risk!
Agreed, that drivers should stop for school buses that are picking up and dropping off children. That said, there was at least one instance when the vehicle was already alongside the bus and the driver extended the arm.
School buses have yellow lights that come on 150 Feet prior to the stop so you should be slowing down and stopping. There is NO excuse not to slow down and stop
Apparently a lot of the individuals posting comments about this video have the lack of knowledge about the flashing lights of the school bus before it even stops. You are given ample time to slow down to allow for a stop. A bus never suddenly stops and then turns it's flashers on. A bus driver will have those lights on seconds before the stop. You have plenty of time to do so. Learn to be a safe driver and considerate of the lives of others as well as the law. Tickets well deserved.
As a Certified school bus driving instructor, this driver probably was never taught the skill of the pause before opening the door. In Illinois, drivers are taught to check all mirrors & traffic to make sure people are stopping before activating the red light system, thus giving drivers the chance to recognize what is happening with the bus. This bus driver just pops the reds on without pause, she's going to cause a pile up one day!
I agree you shouldn't pass a school bus when the sign is out but what I don't agree with is that if your less then 5 feet away and the sign comes out you shouldn't have to stop. Because if you have to stop short it can cause an accident. Here in NY the school buses wait until cars are far enough away to pull the sign so drivers have time to slow down and stop safely.
There is more then enough time. Those lights are flashing on the top of the bus before it even stops. If you don't think that the bus is going to stop with flashing lights on the top then you don't need to be on the road. Just because the sign isn't fully out, or it may even be we can't see it, doesn't mean you shouldn't stop knowing the bus is going to stop.
The bus driver puts out the stop sign when the car is already to close. It is not a safe stopping distance. You cannot expect the car to slam on the brakes. The bus driver needs more training.
People saying they had no way of knowing the bus is stopping have obviously never seen a school bus (or at least one from this century). Those amber lights that flash? You know the ones, right? Well, what they mean is this; the bus is bloody stopping!
Today an Indiana State police K-9 was shot and killed inside a house while his handler waited outside for 5 hours knowing he wasnt coming out alive. I personally know the handler and i know how heartbroken he must be. Please Pray for him and his family for the loss of a loved one and pray for all other state troopers safety.
There are seven inch amber lights at the front and back of the bus. They are activated way before the stop, then the red warning lights and the stop sign deploy. The amber lights are there to tell the driver to slow down and prepare to stop. No excuses, the drivers in the passing cars in this video broke the law.
+c230benzito They are required to turn on Big Yellow Lights certain distance before stopping so drivers know that it will stop. When the bus stops, the red lights are activated.
+Ernesto Martinez it just looked like to me that atleast 1 if not a few were just too close to even stop. Then others just blew through. Maybe the buses should put on their lights and and sign out then have like a 10 second delay before they let the kids off. Gotta make some kind of change
They probably do wait a few seconds before having the kids load and unload. That doesn't mean drivers can run the red lights in those few seconds. These work just like a traffic light. Everyone knows what happens after a yellow light. They just hope to beat it instead of slowing down and preparing to stop.
The yellow lights on the school bus flash about 200 ft before the flashing red lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
As a former bus driver, I've had encounters with people who blow the stop. I'd get a vehicle description, plate number, and driver description and go to the police. Then they, the police, would issue a ticket. Usually the people ticketed wouldn't fight it, but sometimes they would. I wish state police would randomly do this in every state. It's either that or have a driver hit a kid.
Two competing tests exist for determining whether entrapment has taken place, known as the "subjective" and "objective" tests. The "subjective" test looks at the defendant's state of mind; entrapment can be claimed if the defendant had no "predisposition" to commit the crime. The "objective" test looks instead at the government's conduct; entrapment occurs when the actions of government officers would have caused a normally law-abiding person to commit a crime.
I agree with you, however, the amber flashing lights are turned on at least 500 feet from the stop, so those drivers had AT LEAST 10 seconds to slow down and stop. Thats longer than most traffic lights will give you from amber to red.
This seems a little bs. They are leaving the stop arm deployment too late, and then expecting cars to slam on the brakes to stop in time.
What about all the big yellow lights that flash to warn drivers that the bus is slowing. There is 15-20 sec of warning.
+fooloof you can see the yellow lights flashing in the mirrors.
+fooloof 1:12 you can hear the police officer sayin yellow yellow yellow waaay before the pickup pass on the red
UnsyNZ She’s opening up the door, the stop sign goes up way before that
For those complaining about the stop sign coming out as cars are passing, let me give you a tip.
Buses don't just have a stop sign, they also has yellow caution lights that start blinking about 10-15 seconds before the bus actually stops.
A bus always stops before the sign comes out. I've never in my life seen a bus with the sign out before it stops. Fact in, the oncoming motorist should of already been slowing down due to the caution lights, KNOWING the stop sign is about to pop out at any second.
Caution lights means the bus is slowing down and about to stop. Stop sign means stop, children are getting off.
Sometimes the driver will flash the yellow lights for a long time before the stop sign goes out. You never know when the sign will come out. A good school bus driver would be aware of the cars around them and not put the sign out one second before a car is passing the bus.
As a Military Police Officer I totally agree that is ridiculous!! No one could stop that fast!!
This is stupid, they wait for the last second the pop the stop sign right when the car is passing then pull them over, total BS.
when you see yellow lights you slow and stop. you dont fucking speed through and hope you can beat the red light.
thelasthallow When you are so close to that intersection that it would be dangerous for the cars behind you to stop that quick you do.
WHEN WE OPEN THE DOOR IT AVIVATED. SO AFTER THE STOP SIGN COMES OUT IS WHEN THEY NEED TO STOP, YELLOW LIGHTS LETS THEM KNOW WE ARE ABOUT READY TO STOP.
Sheron Windsor I still have to hold the same position on this, watch at 0:59 the bus wasn't even stopped yet and the sign comes out right when the cars front bumper is passing the buses, there is just no danger what so ever not to mention it's really not illegal since the stop sign wasn't out yet. It may well be against better judgement to not stop when you see the yellow flashing lights however the way they are ticketing in this video is just wrong and comes across as a form of entrapment.
95Turbo you are a fucking idiot right? you must be. because the yellow warning lights come on WAY before the bus stops to let people know to slow down and stop. if you dont slow down and just try to drive through the yellow warning lights you are a terrible driver and should not be on the road as you just put others in danger.
Listen up....The school bus is equipped with amber and red lights that are activated 300 feet PRIOR to the stop. This is the traffics warning that the BUS is coming to a STOP. Pay attention to the warning lights and you wont get a ticket for running the stop.
+Leslie K Thank you for saying it. Glad to know I'm not the only one who pays attention to these things.
Hey dip shit that bus lights don't turn on till it stops so if it's driving and stops do you except a car to slam it's brakes and most likely wreck such horse shit
+Leslie K So what if it has amber lights? Amber lights don't mean shit it could just be hazard lights. They teach you in driving school to stop when the stop sign comes out they don't say anything about any amber lights.
I don't know where you, rsx123 or you Kevin Buton, live but in the United states of American, in ALL states, ALL school buses are equipped with Amber lights that are directly aside the RED lights at the top of the bus. When a school bus is coming to a bus stop, the driver is to activate the AMBER lights PRIOR to the actual stop. So the bus gives all cars warning that it will be stopping soon. In New Jersey we are to activate the amber lights 300 feet prior to the actual bus stop. That is approximately 3 utility poles distance apart. Just like an amber light at an intersection. Depending on the rate of speed permitted on the roads that intersect at that light the amber light comes on and stays on for 3 to 5 seconds before the red light. I suggest you google for a little information on how the lights work on a school bus
+Leslie K School buses all over the world have the same lights and stops sign. You are just reading comments from idiots that don't know crap. When I was a kid I almost got ran over by an idiot that didn't stop and passed the bus at a high rate of speed.
They should only hand out tickets to drivers who where a reasonable distance from the bus when the yellow lights came on. Not to drivers where the bus flung the door open, without first arming the amber lights for a reasonable distance to warn others of the bus stop. Usually I never have this problem around where I live, yet some people run through the red lights even after they were on for a minute! Don't wanna run over some kids! You can speed all over town (yeah I said it, get bent) but not near buses or schools...
Huh? I know you! You're the asshole that drives too fast all the time and almost hit a kid getting off my school bus. I drive school busses and I know you!
I will admit this bus driver was a bit unpredictable because she stopped so quickly and barely gave distance for the drivers to stop, if the school system is in a large city i would honestly recommend the school have children’s bus stops arranged on or near crosswalks. In basics most people know to slow near a cross walk, it’s called stopping distance and most people will be able to slow at a cross walk ( where stopping is expected ) and will be less likely to run the bus lights. But if you paid attention in drivers ed you’d know that on most of these roads there is a ‘child at play’ or ‘bus’ sign that signals to drivers to be cautious with their driving and be ready to stop. Look for other videos on this topic and you’ll see that no matter how much stopping distance these people are given they will still run the sign, or in some cases they’ll even hit children.
@@cinderheartmeow6032 school bus stop sign means you stop unless denpending on state law where there is a physical barrier dividing you and the school bus there are many places that don't have marked crosswalks so the bus has to pickup or drop off the kid closer to their house and if you hit a school bus that's your fault not the bus driver that's why you don't need to be tailgating if you can't learn to follow the rules of the road then you shouldn't be driving.
@Poop or you should change it to shit head, yellow lights always come on first it means slow down because red light will follow.
@@cinderheartmeow6032 you can hear in the video that the yellow lights are on way before she stopped, there is no exuse other then people are stupid
They pop out the stop sign at the last possible moment...this is ridiculous.
*****You sir, are the idiot lol
+Carl Rover there are no yellow lights on a stop sign.
***** No, I don't think you are even that intelligent. . .
yep I agree with u I beet some of these people run them an don't care an they are taeing us on TH-cam that they do
literally waiting for cars to be 4 feet on top of the bus and then opening the door expecting the car to stop at atleast 30 mph and then issuing a ticket.... wtf talk about a trap
It's exactly the same as running a red light. Yellow warning light and all.
They turn on Yello flashing lights before they stop
@@voxorox Red lights are stationary they don't drive toward you..... no it is not like a red light. How are you supposed to know when a bus is going to stop you can't read the drivers mind.
its really difficult to stop at the correct place because you dont know exactly where the bus will stop.
+Braxton Claflin That's why you SLOW DOWN and prepare to stop!
+Bad Drivers Of North Central Pennsylvania shut the fuck up
+Braxton Claflin RED MEANS STOP DIP SHIT!!!!!
+Braxton Claflin When the arm comes out, stop. Don't wait to stop.
Art Vandalet Red means STOP not keep on going.
This is BS. What they are pretty much saying is they want people to slam on their brakes and skid to a stop even if they pop the sign out at the last second. Total bullshit.
no it's not be your wrong because if the school bus didn't have stop signs think on how many kids get kill gust because u think that this is bs. what if some one runs your kid over if u get one up will want the police to get the person so think on what u r saying
Please learn how to spell and use proper grammar. I have no idea what you're saying.
+BFES & BPS Videos the lights flash yellow while the driver is breaking, they turn red when they fully stop and engage the stop sign. So pretty much they want you to start to slow down when you see the yellow lights, not "slam on their brakes and skid to a stop" when they finally turn red.
+BFES & BPS Videos That's what the yellow lights are for
+BFES & BPS Videos No this is a Good lesson for you everyone this is why local,state and county agencies are setting up stings to get drivers like you to stop or Yield to a pedestrian what ever the situation. The state and county but also government agencies does stings to where if you don't stop at a train crossing for the train you get a ticket and depending on your records you be arrested.
This is bullshit They just Slam on the breaks and pull out the stop sign like You cant stop that fast. This is messed up
+Jadenlid No, they are required to turn on Big Yellow Lights certain distance before stopping so drivers know that it will stop. When the bus stops, the red lights are activated.
I guess so. The thinking behind it is that if you're in an intersection and the light turns yellow you stop unless its dangerous or you're passing through. The same applies to a school bus, if the light turns yellow you stop unless its dangerous or you are passing through it. They shouldn't be ticketing for the yellow though but they treat the bus as if it were a traffic light.
+bitchesaintshit buthoesntricks I mean they do that as a courtesy. But that's the reason for the lights. Also, if they get to the stop early and the students haven't arrived they'll wait without turning the reds.
Jadenlid, when flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light at an intersection. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
You should be slowing down when the yellow lights come on. They put those lights on 150 FT prior to the store so there is NO excuse not to slow down and stop
I don't know what is more funny. The video or the comments. LOL
1:01, that was BS.she pulled the sign out while he was passing!
If he was to stop he would have had to lock his breaks hard.
There are warnings lights before bus a stop sign out
beatsfromchicago That’s the door opening, the stop sign is up long before that
Then there's the cop at 1:59 in hot pursuit with no hands on the wheel......
XD
+Norman May he got his knees to handle that steering wheel
+Benzin Trinker Yes I know, but he doesn't have his knees at ten and two.....LOL
Norman May gangster ride with knee on 6 o clock this man did it right
+Benzin Trinker Well that makes sense that he would do it like a gangsta doesn't it? I mean, he is a member of the Police (pronounced Poe-lease), the biggest gang of all............isn't he?
You can't expect a car with someone behind them to stop when traveling at the posted speed limit when they're 100 feet away when the stop arm comes out. The second one, for sure, had no time to react. The bus driver is flipping the red lights on and opening the door before she is stopped to intentionally make a No stop case. Just watch and you'll see what I mean...
You do realize that the stop sign and lights come out way before the bus stops right?
Thomas Neumann The driver presses a button to activate the warning lights. The stop sign does not extend until the door is actually opened. I agree with 2010V6RAV4, the driver is activating the lights and stopsign when a vehicle would have no chance of stopping. Most sane drivers will have the bus stopped, with lights on, until traffic is clear or far enough off that they can stop safely. This case here, is just stupid. This is also why I like driving with a dashcam.
Silent Paw here in ohio when you see the yellow flashing lights on a school but you just fucking stop. its not like a yellow stop light that you can just fucking blow through on the road its a yellow light telling you the bus IS GOING to stop so you just fucking stop. if you go through when the light is red and you are to close big fucking woop! you fucked up and deserve the maximum fine.
thelasthallow
I didn't get a single word of what you just said. Stop swearing, you might get somewhere.
the pickup truck one was bull shit, what do they want him to slam on the brakes and risk loosing control and hitting the bus!?
When flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light as you would on a traffic light. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
the flashing yellow in america means below 20mph. Giving a driver 8 meters to stop going 20mph is quite ridiculous.
Bus drivers are required to activate the yellow flashing lights on the bus at least 100 feet before stopping while in a 35 mph zone or less, and at least 300 feet when they are in a speed zone of 35 mph or more. One idea is to treat the yellow flashing lights on the bus as being red. In other words, plan on stopping if you can. If you are already going around or meeting the bus and the yellow flashing lights come on, then of course you would continue. If you are way back and the yellow lights start flashing, then plan to stop unless for some reason the situation dictates otherwise. Driving past or meeting a school bus transporting children can be a hazard, so again, slow down and be prepared to stop if needed. Remember that when you stop for a school bus stop arm and sign, you have to stop at least 20 feet away from the bus, and you can’t start moving your vehicle until the sign goes in and the red lights stop flashing. This information is for you Idiots that don't understand.
Thank you. I can't beleive how many idiots are in here. You really can't stop and wait 30 seconds so kids can get on a bus safely? We had a high school girl killed here because another high school kid blew past a bus stopped with its lights on. His truck was a POS and he could barely see out the window or some shit.
Also anyone claiming the drivers didn't have enough time to stop. Any bus I've seen requires the yellows to be activated, then the reds are activated by opening the door or pressing the button on the handle to open the door. There is no way to activate the reds without the yellows first.
So you mean to say that a girl walked in front of a truck and it is the driver's fault that the girl got hit? Yikes... What's responsibility?
Clyde May uh yeah. Of course it is the driver's fault. Why wouldn't it be?
What is your opinion on a driver blowing a red light and hitting and killing a pedestrian that is crossing the intersection? Who is at fault there?
I mean... if you're crossing the road after you get off the bus and don't pay attention... Yeah it's your fault
Clyde May Is that really what you mean?????
OK. All these people complaining about them not having enough time to stop...Have you ever seen a school bus? They have lights up top to warn drivers when they are coming up to a stop.
Also most of these you cannot activate the red stop lights without activating the yellow ones first. The driver activated the yellows, then once the door is open , or the button to open the door is pressed, the red lights activate.
So it would be impossible to have the red lights on if they did not activate the yellows.
I've seen people pass the school bus from behind, on a road with one lane on each side. I would have loved to pull out in front of them so they would stop but, then I would be on the wrong side of the road as well!!
Yes I love how the cop at 1:59 is driving with no hands on the wheel while looking down at something I wonder if they are taught that at the academy or what? and I love how the bus driver put's the stop out as the car is driving right beside the bus are they supposed to slam on there brakes and maybe cause a accident
Hey idiot the yellow flashing lights give you plenty of time to get ready to stop the yellow flashing light means get ready to stop not step on it the flashing red light means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
@@acedriverboi2429
Yeah, it’s just like coming up to a traffic signal: same rules.
All the school bus in the United States needs an outside camera to catch the running stop sign driver
Ben Fowler I strongly agree with you, but the only thing is if they add cameras to all the buses, then buses will be more expensive to make, making a decrease amount of buses.
Ok the second one was dumb she wasn't even stopped by the time the car passed her. XD
Yellow means to slow down, the bus has yellow lights on 200 ft before the stop. (Supposed to be 200ft)
What people don’t get, is that when the yellow lights are flashing you are supposed to slow down to prepare to stop immediately at a moments notice. That’s why they are doing this.
1:54 to 2:06 is my favorite part i love the sound of the crownvic!!1
1:06 was the equivalent of a yellow light. You don't wait for the car to not be able to stop without skidding to pull the sign out. Gee whiz.
Yellow means prepare to stop, so it doesn't matter
@@kyansomers7444 Says you
Red lights are flashing on the bus. What are you talking about ??
@@snowman374th
Care to explain? Those yellow lights and red lights are like traffic signals, but I guess the rules ain’t the same in your mind.
@@DD-1996
She pulled the sign to stop while the truck was beside her and then says it didn't stop. Do you people understand now.
SMH. What the fuck does my mind have to do with what my eyes I just seen. I swear you people need punched in the mouth sometimes
they pulling out the sign when the car is next to them and say the car never stopped! thats entrapment and how can u stop?
I'm sure if they showed the video in court, their ticket would be over turned.
+hbkgreatestever No, there are two red lights on top of the bus that flash before the bus stops. That is to warn you to slow down. The stop sign is deployed when the bus stops. So the tickets would stand.
+Gary Beharrie You should be ready to stop if the yellow lights begin to flash
When the yellow lights come on you should be slowing down and stopping. The yellow lights come on 150 FT prior to the stop so there is NO excuse to not slow down and stop
yellow does not mean stop tho.. my argument is a car slowing down is also getting fined if they wait for the car to come right up next to them before they pull out the stop sign. yellow means slow down and prepare to stop, not stop.
LEO here......I can’t believe how many people on here think these stops aren’t valid.
Entrapment!!!! How the hell can someone stop when they are on top of the bus right at the hood. cars can't stop on a dam dime.. at :58 seconds she flings the door open engaging the stop arm. The black automobile is right in line with the hood of the bus. That is not enough time for them to come to a complete stop. if the driver of the black automobile got a ticket he or she should have hopefully sued for entrapment.
I can't agree more with that. You are right. I'm willing to bet money that the bus driver doesn't open the door that quickly when the camera isn't rolling. People like attention...its not safe to slam on your brakes when you're that close, especially with cars behind you.
There is no excuse she also sped up when it came out when you see a bus in e distance SLOW DOWN! commn sense
The stop arm is not tied to the door opening mechanism. The stop sign and lights are generally on before the bus comes to a stop and they open the door. The door opening has nothing to do with when you have to stop, when the stop sign is out and the lights are on, you stop.
hzuiel
You don't know school buses, apparently. Having been a passenger on a school bus not even two years ago, I know very well how they work. On some opening systems, especially that one, there is either a button to press to activate the warning lights, or a switch that is triggered by pulling the handle. The stop arm is activated once the (second) switch is triggered, by opening the door, even slightly. On that type of door system, that's exactly how it works. She has to press a button, then open the door to activate the stop arm. That will also activate, even when you're doing 60mph down the interstate.
When flashing yellow lights appear on a school bus you treat them as a solid yellow light as you would on a traffic light. Are you surprised when the light turns red at an intersection? No you expect it and slow down to prepare for a stop. This applies with school buses.
haha. Finally some one with some sense. I can't believe all these people bitching, acting like they have never seen a school bus before. Every bus I have seen you must activate the yellows before the reds will activate. It is impossible to activate the reds without the yellows as a warning.
I'm in Atlanta, GA and our school buses here actually can activate the reds without the yellows. Some forget to turn on the caution lights and they'll open the doors and notice that the stop arm isn't out and then his the button which automatically brings out the reds without the yellow's. The newer buses they have now are better at alerts so drivers can tell clearly if their lights aren't on or if they are.
Right on, Officer! You're the kind of man I like to see behind the badge! Thanks for your upright service! =]
Revenue collection at its finest.
+John Doe Thank you for your response.
If it's cool to run the stop sign on a bus then I guess we can run all stop signs right? Glad you cop blockers are out there fighting for our right to break laws.
You mad?
+mrlufwaffe Good intelligent response.
I've been driving for 17 years, and I've yet to get a ticket.
Don't like tickets, or "revenue collection" or whatever other stupid buzzword you Hillary-voting leftist libtards are calling it now? STOP BREAKING THE LAW. Or at least go back to school and learn how to fucking drive.
I could watch this ALL day. Zero sympathy for people who do this. And anyone saying "they trapped them by waiting until they were passing to turn on the lights" is wrong because the flashing yellows first mean prepare to stop.
+jeepthing98 prepare but not to stop and you see that bus still moving so you know you will pass the bus but driver even didn't come to a complete stop before opening the door
+adilusa. Doesn't matter. You start to slow down and prepare to stop when those yellow lights comes on. Apparently you don't care about the safety of children on board those buses. Thereby you should have your license pulled from you.
hhds113 it does matter, kids don't jump out a bus right away
hhds113 and I would say even more, some drivers turn yellow lights like 500 feet away from the spot they going to stop and as you saying I have to stop and wait until bus passes me and keeps going? Noway
Every drivers in the State of Indiana should stop for a school bus period because it's the law.
All I have to say is the ending is Priceless! Lol.. ;-)
Good work, officers. Bust these boneheads who ignore the LAW about stopping for a school bus. For those of you who comment on this video saying there wasn't time for the drivers to stop, you're flat WRONG. A bus gives ample warning with flashing yellow lights, so if you're paying attention, you know that a stop is about to happen. Obey the law, and stop endangering young, innocent lives (our children) with your inattentive and dangerous driving. I hope these drivers all received an expensive citation!
Yes, you are correct. However, bus drivers should also be courteous enough to not activate stop arm when you are mere feet from the front bumper. Any good bus driver will allow traffic to pass before activating the stop arm. I very much agree with those claiming that this is entrapment. With one or two vehicles within a short distance, the driver can wait five seconds for the vehicles to pass before the kids are even let off the bus.
Silent Paw you are an idiot. this is not entrapment. when the lights start flashing yellow you dont just speed through like a yellow light on a road. you fucking stop. there are kids on board so any excuse is bullshit. YOU STOP and that is that.
Silent Paw Sorry, Paw, but those lights mean something and drivers are given ample time to slow down and stop. The bus drivers have enough to do and more important things to think about to safely transport their precious cargo, our kids. Considering the traffic behind them to pass before activating the stop signs is a noble idea, but I don't want them to have to do that. If you're behind a school bus, be prepared to stop! Entrapment? Of course not!
thelasthallow Again, stop swearing, you might get somewhere. If drivers can stop safely, they should. That's all there is.
Rick Hilton
You're absolutely right, in the thought that drivers should be more courteous to buses. You mentioned that allowing traffic behind to pass is a good idea. I don't care about traffic behind, they stop when the bus does. In Ontario, where my knowledge is coming from, as long as that stop arm has not extended, you are not /required/ to stop, if in oncoming lane. [Buses have signage on the back, 'Do Not Pass When Signals Flashing']
Bus drivers take advantage of that fact and stop with the warning lights on, before opening the door, letting the kids off, and allowing the stop arm to extend. This allows fast travelling, oncoming traffic to clear, without them having to slam on the brakes and cause a three car pileup.
In this video, I observed the bus driver opening the door, at times, before the vehicle even stopped fully.
We need to understand that while yes, kids are on the bus, they are not let off, until it is safe for them to do so. Or, so is the idea. That door is the last line of defence, so to speak. If the driver waits for approaching traffic to stop fully, with the door just slightly open, the stop arm extended, but the door not open far enough for kids to get through (This is not difficult with older models,) then there is very little risk of injury or death.
In a perfect world, with ideal conditions, what you say about drivers being given enough time to slow and stop, that would be true. Unfortunately, all lights and bus functions are at the control of the bus driver, and each driver may have different timing, or may not give enough advanced warning for other vehicles.
When I suggest that this video shows entrapment, I cannot see the ambers flashing, and thus do not know when they are activated. All I can see is the door being thrown open to extend the stop arm, with another vehicle a very short distance from the front of the bus.
Around here, if a driver was faced with that situation, a vehicle approaching, most drivers would not activate the stop arm, until after that first vehicle had gone, as it was too close to stop safely.. Once the second vehicle clearly begins slowing, then the driver would activate the stop arm. Yes, the first driver should have slowed when they saw the warning lights, but, for whatever reason, perhaps they did not see, coming around a curve. Drivers should be attentive, yes. But, it sometimes happens. We don't live in a perfect world. I wish we did, though. It would solve a lot of problems.
Please stop a little earlier = slam on the brakes and skid to a stop, then the cops bust you for that. This is why I stay off the streets when school lets out.
Buses display amber lights before stopping. Should give you plenty of time to slow down, since that's what flashing ambers are telling you to do.
Nic Neufeld If it only worked that way. I have seen buses maybe flash twice, hit the brakes, the kids inside hold on for dear life, slam to a stop, and its red before you can react.
@@MrBates-oi9md that not an excuse to illegally pass a stop school bus the yellow lights come on 200 ft before the stop which gives you plenty of time to stop and flashing red lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
This is bs. They dont give enough proper time to some drivers to stop because of the sudden stop and signal
Yes they do. They get the flashing yellows warning them that the bus will come to a stop. This is covered in all US/Canadian driver's manuals.
complete and utter bullshit, lol they expect people to stop in a millisecond when they deploy the stop sign on the bus
+jj jones
A Millisecond... Are you taking the piss?
have you ever seen a bus? They have big yellow or red light on top that flash while they are approaching a stop.
People who disregard the stopping bus should have their drivers license revoked for an automatic 30 days, and be required to take the rules of the road written and driving tests as well as have their eyes tested before they can drive again. There's no excuse for that shit!
Okay what is up with the first dude who looks like Mr. Bean and gives the bus driver that creepy wink/eyebrow raise?? 0:38 LOL
To the tools who think this is entrapment... All school busses display amber lights signaling they are about to stop, several seconds before they stop, red lights are displayed. They knew the bus was stopping and disobeyed anyway and if the police were taking several officers off Patrol to do this, clearly it is enough of a problem that they had to address it.
Love how the trooper has no hands on the steering wheel under acceleration.
What are you worried about more? People running school bus stop signs or a trooper who is trying to stop someone safely from doing the same violation?
Why doesn't the bus driver wait for traffic to stop before opening the door to let the children out? She's the one creating a problem.
The whole "stop for buses" law (not sure the proper name) is completely idiotic, we don't have to do that for public buses and school buses should be no different. If a child needs to cross the street, they need to do so at a cross walk where it is designated, not right where the bus drops them off. This is one of the many reasons why people in america are becoming sheep. When I was a kid (I'm 24 now) if I ran into the street and got hit by a car, guess who's fault it was. MINE! You know why? I'll tell you, it's because I was the stupid kid who ran into the road in front of a car instead of looking both ways and crossing at the proper place. If we would just go back to people looking out for themselves we would be a whole lot better off. We'd go back to the intelligent surviving and the stupid dying which would make our generations a lot more intelligent as time goes on. As it is now, we are keeping people alive who are at most a detriment to future society.
100% agreed. I feel like our current "education system" is actually dumbing us down in the long run, and you gave a perfect example of why. This is the reason people expect so much out of the government and depend on welfare programs, instead of supporting themselves. (Excluding the elderly and disabled which I understand they depend on some program of support). But if you're completely able to get off your lazy ass and get a job, you're independent enough to support yourself. This is the problem with current day Americans. They see all the benefits they can get by making excuses and not having to put forth any effort.
In rural areas or counties thag don't offer cross walks like back roads and little 2 lane roads where sidewalks don't exist and public transportation is not an option your argument is invalidated and idiotic.
Let's Plays Public buses have mostly 16+ where people actually know this. Anyone from 3-18 can be on a school bus so I doubt a 4 year old in this age is that smart.
+Let's Plays Public buses usually have more adult passengers than children. People who KNOW right off to look both ways before crossing.School buses have mostly children who may NOT know to look both ways. Don't make assumptions like that. And you know, there aren't crosswalks everywhere. Where I live, there are NONE. So while I think you had the right idea, it isn't fool proof. You gotta remember we're talking about young children here, people who don't have the same common sense as you do. They're still learning.
Sydney P Perhaps, but if they are so young that they do not have the ability to cross the street properly or are not intelligent enough to do so for some reason, they should have an adult accompany them. If crosswalks are not available, there are implied crosswalks at every 4 way stop. Also, buses carrying students should ALWAYS stop in traffic minimal areas or in designated bus stop areas (in larger cities with public transit). I believe that there are laws governing where a bus can and cannot stop as well which many school bus drivers do not obey simply because they know that an officer will not stop them for such an "oversight" of the law.
What BS, she flips her little sign out before drivers can react. They'd have to come to a screeching halt and get rear ended to stop in time for this bus.
Exactly
You guys need to retake your drivers test. When the caution lights are out you suppose to slow down to a complete stop not keep driving. Same thing for intersections but people are not cautious or care to do that. Everyone is caught up in their little world and ignorant of their surroundings. Note: buses turn on their caution lights (yellow), don't go by the red lights. Don't be like, "oh I don't see the STOP sign, I'm going to keep going", don't be ignorant just slow down to a complete stop idiots.
+KakarotAkaGoku OR more States need to do what they did in Michigan... you must stop for the caution lights, no need to wait for the red lights or the stop sign etc. As soon as the lights come on, you should stop if safe to do so, obviously no need if you are already within a couple car lengths (~15 feet).
The stop arm is tied in to the red lights and the door. When the door handle is popped the circuit activates the red lights and the stop arm, regardless of how far the door is open. Some buses have a lever with a hole which fits over a "bolt" on top of the handle. When the lever is flipped up and the handle pops out from the locked position, the yellow lights shut off and the reds kick on and at the same time the stop arm extends.
This makes me upset. The drivers didn't have time to stop safely, or at all.
Zack Albright The yellow lights come on 150 ft before the stop so there is NO excuse for not slowing down and watching for where the bus is stopping if you are coming towards the bus
It's in your drivers manual. Look it up
yes they do when they see yellow light s they need to slow down not speed up like they do with trains
Holy crap, the cops actually serving and protecting someone. Wonders never cease.
wow this is pethetic. Kids are even out of the buss yet who cares.
Are you fucking dun they stop as soon lights on not when kids out off the bus
+Combine 751 dum
+Combine 751 **dumb
I hope you aren't a driver. Good lord.
Do you just run red lights when you don't see any other traffic?
I drive and find kids ro run over like bowling pins
In order for those cars to stop in time, they would have had to slam the brakes and skid in the roadway, creating another hazard. He told that one guy "stop a little earlier, okay?" With the forward acceleration of his car, I hardly believe he would be able to decelerate and come to a complete stop safely. That one was a little messed up.
Hey idiot the school bus yellow lights are flashing ahead of time it means get ready to stop not step on it red flashing lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
I love how the trooper at 1:55 takes both hands off the wheel and takes his eyes off the road while he floors it down a 2 lane road
I saw that too, and it was a little 😲 shocking . Another do as I say not as I do!
No attempt to stop for bus, you GO TO JAIL!
Lookin sharp in those trooper uniforms!
Iam an Indiana school bus driver and I can tell you from experience that school bus laws are unrealistic. Think about it the other drivers know the bus is going to stop but don't know exactly where the bus is going to stop, most of which slow down but are too close to the bus to stop safely when the driver deploys the stop arm. I had a car almost get rear ended last week for stopping abruptly for my school bus. Ive even had semi trucks stop next to my bus because they couldn't get stopped in time and causing the kids to have to run around stopped trucks to get on the bus causing another dangerous situation. I always hold students on the bus until all traffic is completely stopped before I even open the door.
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you have the yellow lights to warn you that the bus is going to stop. if it was your kid and a car went through red lights you would be mad. think of the children
no hands on the wheel at 2:00?
It's a RWD vehicle, it won't pull left or right because of acceleration.
+Slayer John is it just police vehicles?
+Slayer John is it just police vehicles?
Michael Walker No, there are a lot of vehicles and drivetrain setups that don't have torque steer. Only FWD layouts have torque steering. There are probably several videos that explain why that setup pulls, so I won't go into detail about it.
Look closely, he has his left knee controlling the wheel.
I am not provided flashing lights and stop signs when I cross the street. Why are their lives more important than mine? This is a completely ageist policy. Senior citizens don't even get this treatment and they are slower than 1st graders. Not to mention the fact that this kind of thing slows me down.
Because kids are not as intelligent as adults.
I think most kids are more intelligent than Jesse Buck. What an arrogant immature comment.
lol america. have to stop when a bus pulls over when your on the other side of the road? another reason I'm glad I dont live there
Snapshot290 Aren't the kids supposed to wait for the bus to leave before crossing the road?
Hörður Heimisson NO! What do you think the red flashing stop sign is for? It's to stop the vehicles so the kids can cross safely.
Well that makes 2 of us! Dont come to America we dont want you! What if that kid needed to cross the road to get to his house?? You're an idiot!
deaners09 what if he needed to get to his house? then he can wait 5 motherfucking seconds for a car to pass, like every other country, every other road and every other human being does, not forcing the road to come to a stop so some kid can cross a dam street. dont try and defend your stupid law
Well first let me tell you just how cool and educated with your swearing..... Dude they're kids. Most of the time I looked both ways when I was little and was going to cross mostly cuz my momma would have whooped me if I didn't but kids make mistakes sometimes. Also what if its a really busy road and its hard to cross. This just makes it safer for everyone. Nothing worth getting to worked up about. God bless Brotha
If police would reasonably enforce all traffic laws like this, they would pay for all the costs of their police department and the roads would be safe for law abiding drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians.
Additionally, those that constantly break traffic laws, who pose higher insurance risks, would get appropriately higher insurance rates. Safe, law abiding drivers would get appropriately lower rates. Everyone wins except high risk law breakers.
Yes, but those hazard lights are not just for letting kids off a bus(even if it was more likely) That would cause more confusion for instance if the bus was breaking down and simply pulling off to the side with no plans to pick up or drop off anyone. What NEEDS to be done is actual "bus stops" to be built like we have for public transportation. That would be much safer and people would know exactly what is going on.
All school buses flash yellow lights when coming to a stop indicating to the oncoming driver to slow down, then they flash red a good few seconds before they actually come to a stop again telling the driver to stop and giving them time to do so, then the sign goes out. You will learn this in drivers training when you are old enough.
When I had someone want to argue with me about stopping; I’d ask them to define what stop meant? Most couldn’t. Then I would tell them and add an analogy. Stop: the cessation of movement. If I were beating and you told me to stop, would you be happy if I kept hitting you by just slowing down?
They got the point. Retired 20 years ago.
As a former PA State Trooper, this is whats called entrapment and snatch. At which these State Troopers are commiting a fraud to the system at which they are suppose to protect.. So in my personal opinon, all the drivers who were caught running past the school bus should contact lawyers and have the tickets thrown out, because the only one who can issue the tickets is the officer who observed the offense which were on the bus, not in the patrol cars.
Technically doesnt mean to hurry and blow through it. Thats what people judge it as. Yellow just means, its bout to turn red and if you have the time to stop, then stop, if you dont, then go through it. Once a bus comes to a stop the red light comes on. You should be well prepared to stop before it stops. Same goes with the stop light, you dont stop right as it turns red, you get prepared to stop before it turns red.
Ok, people. School Buses have TWO sets of lights, Yellow, and Red. When the Yellow are flashing, that means the bus is coming to a stop, and you need to SLOW DOWN and PREPARE to STOP, just like when a traffic light turns yellow. None of these cars were slowing down at all... Doesn't matter if the bus didn't stop yet, a kid could have started crossing the road from the other side of the street to get on the bus...
Buses have a caution light genius. A flash yellow light, means to slow down. They turn them on way before they stop. Its the same principle as a stop light at an intersection.
That would be like saying if a police officer saw someone get murdered but lost the suspect during a chase, another officer can't arrest him because he didn't see it. A police officer is a police officer.
Have you ever seen a school bus? They run YELLOW lights first signaling to slow down and prepare to stop, then RED to stop. No BS, just drivers not paying attention.
The amber warning lights activated 200 feet prior to the stop is ample warning. That warns the motorists that the red lights will be activated immediately upon the bus stopping. The motorists need to start slowing down when they see the ambers in anticipation that the bus will be stopping and the reds activated. You, as a school bus driver should know this. The red lights on top of the bus are already flashing even if the stop arm is still in the process of deploying.
One of our buses that I drove was great during the pre-trip inspection, but when I went to drop off kids, I opened the doors and the yellows remained on. The lever switch got stuck and I had to poke at it and it worked normally. Cars did pass, but since the yellows were on, no violation of the law.
Amber warning lights are to be activated at 100 feet going 35 or less, 300 feet going 36 and over. I open my door to activate my red lights but I NEVER let the child off the bus until vehicles have stopped. They had also been trained to never cross a road unless I give them the okay.
These vehicles weren't even slowing down when the ambers are activated, and just trying to beat the bus.
I think the people below that are making excuses for these drivers wouldn't have kids that ride the bus or wouldn't work with kids at all. As a teacher, it's shocking when kids tell me they were nearly run over while trying to get on the bus because cars constantly pass the bus with the lights on.
+Myles Gray How the hell does a kid almost get run over by cars on the opposite side of the road? Like how does this effect them entering the door of the bus, which is next to the curb? Are these kids running across the road or something?
Some kids have to cross the street to get to the bus.
2:44 Thank You for stopping that person. Just because she's a School Bus Driver don't mean she's going to get off that easy even while in her POV.
For those who say that them drivers never had time to
Stop, the bus lights flash yellow when they’re first activated indicating that you must prepare to stop!!
That first guy was about to go right past the bus, but he looks in and sees the trooper and is like "oh sh-t"
I'm a deputy and they need to give these drivers time to stop, not throwing up the sign and expect the drivers to stop quickly. They will still slide through the intersection after hitting the brakes that qiuck
For people saying people don't have enough time to stop... yes they do. The YELLOW lights are on BEFORE the reds/stop sign come out, which is the SAME as a yellow light on a traffic light. People just don't care until it's THEIR child at risk!
Agreed, that drivers should stop for school buses that are picking up and dropping off children. That said, there was at least one instance when the vehicle was already alongside the bus and the driver extended the arm.
School buses have yellow lights that come on 150 Feet prior to the stop so you should be slowing down and stopping. There is NO excuse not to slow down and stop
Apparently a lot of the individuals posting comments about this video have the lack of knowledge about the flashing lights of the school bus before it even stops. You are given ample time to slow down to allow for a stop. A bus never suddenly stops and then turns it's flashers on. A bus driver will have those lights on seconds before the stop. You have plenty of time to do so. Learn to be a safe driver and considerate of the lives of others as well as the law. Tickets well deserved.
There are usually yellow flashing lights that indicate the bus is about to stop, so yes, they do expect people to stop in time.....
As a Certified school bus driving instructor, this driver probably was never taught the skill of the pause before opening the door. In Illinois, drivers are taught to check all mirrors & traffic to make sure people are stopping before activating the red light system, thus giving drivers the chance to recognize what is happening with the bus. This bus driver just pops the reds on without pause, she's going to cause a pile up one day!
I agree you shouldn't pass a school bus when the sign is out but what I don't agree with is that if your less then 5 feet away and the sign comes out you shouldn't have to stop. Because if you have to stop short it can cause an accident. Here in NY the school buses wait until cars are far enough away to pull the sign so drivers have time to slow down and stop safely.
There is more then enough time. Those lights are flashing on the top of the bus before it even stops. If you don't think that the bus is going to stop with flashing lights on the top then you don't need to be on the road. Just because the sign isn't fully out, or it may even be we can't see it, doesn't mean you shouldn't stop knowing the bus is going to stop.
The bus driver puts out the stop sign when the car is already to close. It is not a safe stopping distance. You cannot expect the car to slam on the brakes. The bus driver needs more training.
the stop arm is actually deployed several feet before stopping, the lever she pulls opens and closes the door.
People saying they had no way of knowing the bus is stopping have obviously never seen a school bus (or at least one from this century). Those amber lights that flash? You know the ones, right? Well, what they mean is this; the bus is bloody stopping!
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There are seven inch amber lights at the front and back of the bus. They are activated way before the stop, then the red warning lights and the stop sign deploy. The amber lights are there to tell the driver to slow down and prepare to stop. No excuses, the drivers in the passing cars in this video broke the law.
LOL she puts out the STOP sign when the car is at normal speed and it's just passing her, they really think they gonna slam on the breaks? Lmao.
I cant stand drivers that do this but in all fairness, theres no way some of those cars could have stopped that fast.
+c230benzito They are required to turn on Big Yellow Lights certain distance before stopping so drivers know that it will stop. When the bus stops, the red lights are activated.
+Ernesto Martinez it just looked like to me that atleast 1 if not a few were just too close to even stop. Then others just blew through. Maybe the buses should put on their lights and and sign out then have like a 10 second delay before they let the kids off. Gotta make some kind of change
School buses have yellow lights and they come on 150 FT prior to the stop so there is NO excuse not to slow down and stop
They probably do wait a few seconds before having the kids load and unload. That doesn't mean drivers can run the red lights in those few seconds. These work just like a traffic light. Everyone knows what happens after a yellow light. They just hope to beat it instead of slowing down and preparing to stop.
It does not look like they are giving traffic enough time to stop. She is throwing the flag out and doors open before she gets fully stopped.
The yellow lights on the school bus flash about 200 ft before the flashing red lights means stop if you can't learn to follow school bus stop sign laws then you shouldn't be driving.
The bus driver isn't supposed to open the door until all cars have stopped
As a former bus driver, I've had encounters with people who blow the stop. I'd get a vehicle description, plate number, and driver description and go to the police. Then they, the police, would issue a ticket. Usually the people ticketed wouldn't fight it, but sometimes they would. I wish state police would randomly do this in every state. It's either that or have a driver hit a kid.
BAM! Surprise STOP sign! Here's your ticket for not having super human reaction time!
Two competing tests exist for determining whether entrapment has taken place, known as the "subjective" and "objective" tests. The "subjective" test looks at the defendant's state of mind; entrapment can be claimed if the defendant had no "predisposition" to commit the crime. The "objective" test looks instead at the government's conduct; entrapment occurs when the actions of government officers would have caused a normally law-abiding person to commit a crime.
I agree with you, however, the amber flashing lights are turned on at least 500 feet from the stop, so those drivers had AT LEAST 10 seconds to slow down and stop. Thats longer than most traffic lights will give you from amber to red.
Several of these there is no possible way they could stop