HOW DO YOU NOT KILL EACH OTHER? Q&A about our relationships while traveling

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ความคิดเห็น • 165

  • @annechkan
    @annechkan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    It's admirable, that Kara and Nate always respect and build each other up, and not tear down, at least in public.

    • @REDRAGON12345
      @REDRAGON12345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed - the difference between the couples is noticeable

  • @isabellemullaley5327
    @isabellemullaley5327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Watching this during our Covid 19 home stay makes it doubly interesting.

    • @vickisears6702
      @vickisears6702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They need to drink more water and have cash in their pocket. Love these kids..

  • @AnnaaDaniellee
    @AnnaaDaniellee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Alyssa definitely gives me never wrong vibes lol

    • @LaGrenouille09
      @LaGrenouille09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, was just thinking this 😂

  • @yes2day100
    @yes2day100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Alyssa got really snarly, Kara just jumped in and steered it to a more positive place. She's an amazing person.

  • @inkjob12
    @inkjob12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    we all feel like we know you two also...its so funny...when you go for a long stretch with no video....I feel like Im missing hearing from a friend.

  • @keithfox2
    @keithfox2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m 47 snd my wife is 42. There’s nothing we haven’t experienced. Love IS all you need. We

  • @stephaniegruenberg7044
    @stephaniegruenberg7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the best part (hands down) of traveling full time together is that you get to spend all that time together!! That was the best part of our trip to Iceland was just getting to spend 10 days completely together without other people. I'd love to spend time together like you guys do. Love the Q&A's

  • @JuiCyBuTteRfLY866
    @JuiCyBuTteRfLY866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've started at the beginning and I'm now on year 3 💯💯💯 I'm amazed by the beauty of the countries you are visiting.. so much fun!! I'm so thankful that you two have decided to do this with your life and share it with us... If I never visit some of the countries you've been to, I'm just happy I got to experience it through your videos!! Thank you so much Nate and Kara!!

  • @severalbraindamages
    @severalbraindamages 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always said that a couple that survives travelling together will survive everything and you prove this point

  • @sarahcorson546
    @sarahcorson546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that Nate brings you coffee every morning. Couple goals!! Love that I found your channel.

  • @bobnease2
    @bobnease2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was SUPER! Thanks for being willing to take on these Qs and for being so transparent!!

  • @leepagnini6273
    @leepagnini6273 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with the Ladies, that bringing them a cup of coffee first thing in the morning is just Great. and Kara's little "thank you".

  • @byrongotcha
    @byrongotcha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like Kara is more free and fun-loving and Nate is more bossy and always tends to take control. But that role needs to be taken by somebody to stay on top of everything and make sure everything stays on schedule. They both fill necessary roles for this whole experience to run effectively and stay fun and exciting.

  • @ChasingaPlate
    @ChasingaPlate 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So interesting Kara and Nate. Thanks so much for putting this one together. Really neat getting more on an insight about you. Cheers! - Thomas and Sheena 😄

  • @cur92lyone
    @cur92lyone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You two are adorable. Wish you two so so much of happiness and love

  • @purplepotato8669
    @purplepotato8669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate how you both appreciate and comment on these videos. I follow a number of people and the only one that has ever even liked a video is you guys. I live my life missing the community at home and trying to build community where I am. I don't have much money so my dreams of seeing the world is realized through watching your videos. If you are ever back in Thailand, I would love to show you my side of my adopted country.

  • @oscarmartinez6961
    @oscarmartinez6961 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love you guys! I watch all your vlogs and I'm so inspired to continue traveling! I'm only 20 and I'm eager to know the world! Thanks guys!

  • @amandayannone5070
    @amandayannone5070 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We love that you remember us, it’s fun to build new friends with same interests, great vlog

  • @Freckles7396
    @Freckles7396 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad and I are now addicted to your videos, and my own travelling has been hugely affected by your experiences and input...Walking down the street in foreign countries and looking for 'social confirmation' is now one of my golden rules. Great to hear a bit more about you personally in this vid xx

  • @scrogginsfamilyadventure
    @scrogginsfamilyadventure 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys, this was informative and hilarious. Glad y'all got a chance to hang on the road. Those are special times!

  • @martinhollick670
    @martinhollick670 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    have been retired together for three years and spend 24/7 together. We travel a great deal and I think it's easier to be on the road than at home. Discovered you doing research for Portugal (went in March) and have been following you ever since. Keep up the great job. You're either someplace I want to go or someplace I've already been that I can relive through you.

  • @WAYAWAYWithAsh
    @WAYAWAYWithAsh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    +Kara and Nate this was a great video and I appreciate hearing everything you all had to say. This reminded me that Josh and I are normal through this situation we've chosen.:) Its good to know we're not in it alone.
    Your annoyances were spot on with what we would say. Although I get really hungry and Josh is not great with time management. Haha 😂Thanks for the honesty. I loved it❤️
    Its amazing to be encouraged by great marriages. I find That one of the most important things we do is show what a truly loving and good marriage is like and that it is possible. 👌😆 -Ash

  • @helenfromtheuk8108
    @helenfromtheuk8108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello from the U.K. I really wish I had travelled more in my 20's. Enjoy every moment.

  • @michellederoche8110
    @michellederoche8110 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been binge watching all your videos over the past week. Totally obsessed with y’all and your travels!!!!

  • @michae8jackson378
    @michae8jackson378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was lots of fun. Sounds like a lot of self discovery was had by all!

  • @goldieramirez5121
    @goldieramirez5121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kate and Nate, I love youuu guys!! So happy to binge on your channel!!

  • @jenn8861
    @jenn8861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are amazing! I have been trying to watch all of your videos to decide on where I want to travel to next. I really enjoy your videos!

  • @loribertolotti7880
    @loribertolotti7880 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kara and Nate- I am fairly new to following you two. I truly love watching your videos. I always look forward to your videos. I love to travel however I know my husband does not wish to visit places outside of the country. Your videos show me so many places that I know I will never get to.
    We are RVers so that is how we get our traveling in. We have made many family memories traveling with our camper.
    Safe travels. Can’t wait for your next video.
    You two crack me up. Such a cute couple.

  • @lenak9438
    @lenak9438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love watching your videos I e been hooked the past couple days... my biggest regret is not traveling more. Unfortunately I’m sick and not able to now but I think it takes a strong couple to travel like you do. You both seem like such down to earth people. Thanks for sharing your videos

  • @1976flag
    @1976flag 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So true! After 12 years of marriage and jobs. We quit to be nomadic and now we are experiencing so many of these things!!

  • @sylvesterblue
    @sylvesterblue 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good to see both of you couples doing this - I follow you around!

  • @RodAngeles618
    @RodAngeles618 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally enjoyed watching this episode! Kudos to you guys!

  • @andysinclair2084
    @andysinclair2084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video! We've binged both group's video. Love it!

  • @michaelmortensen7212
    @michaelmortensen7212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great vlog! So fun! Thank you for sharing your stories!

  • @meghan11
    @meghan11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love how relaxed this video is. also making me crave camping

  • @dellnichols4625
    @dellnichols4625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I am watching this two years after it was posted. I found your TH-cam channel a few months ago. I need to comment on the hangry thing. So glad someone else is like this! I so get that when you get to that point a snack will not do. Only a meal. Good to know I’m not alone in this.

  • @simplyshanbooks3238
    @simplyshanbooks3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video!! Thank you so much for your perspective on full time traveling:)

  • @EricandAmanda
    @EricandAmanda 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video concept! Very entertaining and honest insight into traveling with your spouse.

  • @onejournaltravel-Jeff_Pam
    @onejournaltravel-Jeff_Pam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video. I love your honesty! I'm with Randy Cuffaro, when there is a stretch with no video I experience withdrawal. LOL!!! ~Pam

  • @adventurecouple1015
    @adventurecouple1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this vlog, it’s been great getting to know you both a bit better.

  • @veronicasamuel4007
    @veronicasamuel4007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Guys, having a down day today not feeling well, so perfect time to continue with your journey. I'm up to the episode where Kara got to ride the Ferris wheel. You have redem yourselves with me Nate. Do not get me wrong you're awesome but had put you on Santas nutty list with your frugality. Sorry, trauma, my dad was the same. He was my hero but sooo frugal 😩 Anyway, love you both. My best to sweet Kara, looking forward to 100 since I started mid way to almost end and now on the beginning portion.

  • @allietogni277
    @allietogni277 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    HAHA loved the table of contents, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen someone do that. I never skip through, but I do like knowing what’s on the schedule for the video! Great idea.

    • @kellywray3924
      @kellywray3924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love this video bc it’s the most honest I’ve seen y’all. Plus, as someone
      Who’s starting a business with their partner this is really great to see that it can work
      Being together so much. Thank you for being so honest and real in this.

  • @pandora9671
    @pandora9671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honestly u guys r the reasons why i believe in love

  • @kajferris
    @kajferris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vlog you guys. Really enjoyed getting to know you a little better.

  • @samandnick
    @samandnick 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very important video on couple traveling! Thanks for sharing!

  • @vasudhabhagat3234
    @vasudhabhagat3234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kara and Nate, this was a really good vlog. I must say that its something different which I enjoyed watching and got a peak into the real things happening in your lives apart from travelling..kudos..

  • @growingwildheather
    @growingwildheather 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another great video. thanks for touching on this! we've done a bunch of traveling and when we're bot we live in a tiny bachelor. we're working towards the full nomad leap. our friends think we're crazy for spending so much time together, but hearing this helps us just feel like were in on a secret! lol.

  • @heavenlylight317
    @heavenlylight317 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the interaction between you all.

  • @yogerke
    @yogerke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have been married for 25 years . In 2013 we bought a Bnb and we did everything. If you work well together and you like each other you can do it . Enjoy your travels enjoy the moments.

  • @Runner656
    @Runner656 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My husband and I work together in the same office and live together. We are about to do the travel for a year together thing. Most couples don't have the patience to live and work together on a long-term basis. It takes hard work and communication and recognizing that sometimes it's okay to get space from each other. We have been doing this for about 15 years now :) and we are still going strong! Haven't killed each other yet!

  • @alaskangalb
    @alaskangalb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You four look like you mesh very well together. This Q&A style was neat. I would say on the numbers calculated? You forgot holidays off as extra and vacation weeks. So I still agree that as full time travelers and working together you have almost double. But 9-5 will have a little more than those hours. Funny you guys did this, that is one way I sold us buying an RV traveling together. I compared hours spent with each other to spent at work with co workers. That was a depressing difference. I laughed [pretty hard imagining Alyssa trying to slam a door and it not letting her. THAT comic relief is needed sometimes. One fight I went to storm off from my husband and I had been losing weight, these drawstring pants just fell straight to my ankles. I was wearing no underwear and then couldn't walk. I turned around really fast to be all " DO NOT LAUGH AT ME.." and he was trying not to and it was infectious. Perfect timing.

  • @samenmon
    @samenmon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder how long it will be before you guys get to host your own television series!? You guys rocked it

  • @jeannineb9015
    @jeannineb9015 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started watching you guys and I’m hooked 😊
    Your travels are much more fun than my commute from NJ to NYC lol

  • @universalaviation
    @universalaviation 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are awesome! Love this video ❤️

  • @sykoelf
    @sykoelf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So refreshing to see you two like normal couple. Ya'll are super cute even when youre getting annoyed with each other

  • @lindafett1826
    @lindafett1826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked the Q&A

  • @MammaBear.
    @MammaBear. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nice to see what you two get up to when you're home.. :)

  • @rogerorta3569
    @rogerorta3569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Omg the title made me LOL hahahaha. Been a subscriber since you had 7K subscribers all the way back in Asia. Great cinematography and story-telling from all your videos. I always feel like I've traveled the world with you all. Keep up the great work.

    • @hermanlai6035
      @hermanlai6035 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roger Orta true! they have improved so much ever since the start!( started from HK)

  • @sandrah24coach
    @sandrah24coach 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm so like you Kara! I get so Hangry when I am not fed on time 😂

  • @NNENE
    @NNENE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i absolutely love this video. Great questions and loved how y'all discussed them. lmao @ Kara and her Hangry issues😄 I agree, I can't be rationale in those moments. keep up the great videos. Thanks! Nnene

  • @addydodd5724
    @addydodd5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg a table on contents!!! Yes!!!

  • @ChristineMRoberts
    @ChristineMRoberts 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    y'all are so adorable!

  • @tanyaweller309
    @tanyaweller309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am still watching your videos from the beginning. I am catching up. Great job!! Heath and Alyssa's (sp) blog address?? P.s. I am now letting the ads run to the end instead of skipping most of them. Sorry to have done that. A labourer is worthy of his pay. ;)

  • @vickinestinghearts9367
    @vickinestinghearts9367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a thought. In the reseller community on TH-cam, they have meet ups where folks make a plan to actually connect in person at various places. Might be a fun idea for you guys to meet some of us in real life.

  • @jennymossa9492
    @jennymossa9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main reason I watch you guys, I just realized, is because Kara is so stinking cute

  • @karishmamevawala5846
    @karishmamevawala5846 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Nate and Kara you two are adorable I wish I could do the same with my boyfriend. Watching your videos has helped me make my bucket list. Lots of love 😗

  • @Elarenja
    @Elarenja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never have 5 hours per day wirh my spouse. I have about 1-2 hours max, depending on the day. And on weekends on saturdays approx. 4-6 hours and on sundays 6-12 hours. I enjoy the days where we have a full day so much. You appriciate those days much more.

  • @timothywalker4563
    @timothywalker4563 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Q&A a little truth or comical consequences 😊

  • @Lexykins2691
    @Lexykins2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like Kara has a touch of hypoglycemia. I have it so I can tell you eating something substantial when you feel that way is key!! Having a diet with 5-6 small meals can help maintain your blood sugar but it's a lot of work!!

  • @VrieChica078
    @VrieChica078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m newer here, and I still feel like I know you 2 as well.

  • @heavenlylight317
    @heavenlylight317 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kara, I love that your accent has returned!

    • @raynemichelle2996
      @raynemichelle2996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both Kara and Nate each have their accents gets stronger or weaker between General American and Tennessean from time to time.

  • @francesfritticci6212
    @francesfritticci6212 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you guys so much fun to watch keep up the great work I just found your channel not too long ago and I'm hooked

    • @francesfritticci6212
      @francesfritticci6212 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want Kara to be happy all the time you have to do is keep her well bed and she likes luxury lounges you Can't Blame A Girl

  • @kenjiswb1499
    @kenjiswb1499 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kara and Nate, are you guys going to be in the DC/VA area, would love to see you guys in passing...love your videos!!

  • @zezeandjr4110
    @zezeandjr4110 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kara, frickin eye candy, that infectious smile, that beautiful giggle, love it, what a beautiful couple you guys are, just from the videos I watched I'll tell you Nate, you got a gem there. :-)

  • @BIGDRONEFLYER77RC
    @BIGDRONEFLYER77RC 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice guys, thank you

  • @nikkiprice8728
    @nikkiprice8728 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your vids

  • @gera0202tico
    @gera0202tico 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this video .. Kara you have a great personality and Nate man you are very smart love your travel hacking ideas .. i hope i can travel full time around the world one day .... love you guys and your videos ... LOL i get cranky also when I get hungry ..

  • @isabellaaguirre3865
    @isabellaaguirre3865 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I love you guys and I'm so inspired by you all. Me and my partner want to do the same thing eventually.

  • @jamesborsheim9382
    @jamesborsheim9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nate ... great video. Question: what is the dark colored gizmo connected to the left side of your laptop? Is it a recorder, finger tip sensor, or ??? TIA

  • @bonniesweeney808
    @bonniesweeney808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I had been able to meet you to there,but now live back in north Carolina.

  • @ashishbijwe24
    @ashishbijwe24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting :) thank you for sharing :) :) :) :) I love watching your videos. Hopefully I will be able to travel full time one day with my future partner

  • @ShannanMcCormack
    @ShannanMcCormack 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are adorable :)

  • @SuperMickeyr
    @SuperMickeyr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew their friends were from Texas the minute I saw the Rudy’s cup! Lol!

  • @axjmd
    @axjmd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Kara and Nate: Do you have any plans on having any Kara jr. or Nate Jr. ? You both seem to me that you would be the perfect parents. I don't have any of my parents alive and although I'm practically double your age, I would love you both to be my parents, if I didn't have any parents at all. You both are dear to my heart. Keep up the awesome work or play however you want to describe your time. Joey Dunn Baltimore Md p.s. if you get to Baltimore please let's meet.

  • @changdaliu9367
    @changdaliu9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happyness!

  • @honestmomvlog
    @honestmomvlog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do more collaborations!

  • @drraghavnarang8085
    @drraghavnarang8085 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are leading a dream life :) :)
    come to India soon

  • @IAMBDVX
    @IAMBDVX 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife and I have the very same Dairy conversation every time I eat ice cream. LOL

  • @TheDroneExperiment
    @TheDroneExperiment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kara busting out the "y'all" the second she returns to the US.

  • @carolinebray82
    @carolinebray82 ปีที่แล้ว

    visiting some of your old vids...
    14:16 yes I need eat too!! LOL Now if there was a guy that would understand that about me LOL

  • @bigrip5403
    @bigrip5403 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:58 you see what you think Kara does annoys you, it's really about YOU, Nate. You;re frugal and she will pay any price for food when she gets hungry and it's the wasting of the money(in your perception) is what annoys you because of you're penchant to go on the cheap.
    It's also what makes the whole adventure possible because you are a master of efficiency and money management. (it's not your business degree- its who you are) #NoWasteNate

  • @hermanlai6035
    @hermanlai6035 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait they make videos too?awesome! can you link their website and channel in your description too?

    • @heathandalyssa
      @heathandalyssa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're over here! :) We just started putting out videos about RVing on the road this year

  • @carinal8738
    @carinal8738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    unbelievable how much Heath looks like Niall Horan in this video :D

  • @cowbayshrub
    @cowbayshrub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get hangry too Kara

  • @ExpansivenessofLight
    @ExpansivenessofLight ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, Boss 😃

  • @erikolmen869
    @erikolmen869 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was the 1,000th like

  • @bonniesweeney808
    @bonniesweeney808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lived in myrtle beach in 2007 and 2008

  • @lisalynn1
    @lisalynn1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes older people are much more fun to hang out with. But I'm not a camper. But I do prefer older people because they just let things roll off their backs. They give so much wisdom even if having a beer cooking over a campfire.

  • @theyclosechannelsthatspeak428
    @theyclosechannelsthatspeak428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because they like each other.

  • @drinkinslim
    @drinkinslim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree: ice-cream is worth the lactose intolerance. I mean, how could you NOT eat ice-cream. :)