When talking about diesel engines, you've gotta give the lb-ft TORQUE! These trucks use high torque to carry these big loads, not horsepower. Drives us, already neurotic, mechanical engineers nuts!
It is the engines capability to produce “work” that carries big loads. The amount of work an engine is capable of is measured in kW or bhp. A high torque rating over a wide band of engine speed is nice to have, but in the end you can get around low torque with low gearing. You can’t use gearing to get around a low power rating (kW/bhp). I’m not sure you are a mechanical engineer...
@@AndreasBrOlesen Wow way to overanalyze one sentence. You realize this is TH-cam, not an ASME forum. He's talking about big diesel engines and only quoting horsepower rating, not torque. Since torque output is much higher than HP in diesel engines. I just wanted to know the torque rating of the engines. I wasn't writing a thesis on the topic! Why are you suddenly bringing up gearing like nobody knows how the powertrain works. And yes, I am a mechanical engineer and you sound like some freshman in college lvl knowledge who just passed thermo and thinks they're the smartest person in the world. I took a break from actual engineering work to get on TH-cam to find your pompous self.
@@J_McPhearsom Wow relax dude. You simple made an incorrect statement in your original comment "trucks use high torque to carry big loads". Then you state that it drives you mechanical engineers nuts, but why would it when the statement is wrong. To have an engine do work, yes you need torque if you want the work to be done at idle engine speeds, you need a lots of torque! but it is still the engines power rating that dictates how much work the engine is capable of producing. If you really want to analyse the engines power characteristics, you really need a complete power and torque curve anyway. Theres a reason why the power rating of a truck/tractor is often part of the model name, not the torque rating.
@@AndreasBrOlesen I was generalizing that the high torque generated by the engine (yes at low rpm) is responsible for the work (ft-lb) needed to move such heavy vehicles and loads. I refrained from specific terms like 'work' since my assumption is most ppl aren't engineers. What peaked my interest are these large diesel engines, optimized for these applications and duty cycles. And yes if I really wanted to know, best to look the HP, TQ curves. To me, the narrator seems to be mentioning these mechanical specs without understanding.
As a German, you get absolute gasps. It is not called Merceidis but Merceedes. Also MAN is not pronounced MEN but M...A...N the reason is that it is called Maschinenbau from Nuremberg.
I'm Australia so I have no bias towards any of these trucks, how ever I see a common issue across all of them, there no under body protection which going of current datat by 2021 should be by default, an absolute must!! Aside from that all of them look like they would do the job, it would come down to reliability, repair accessibility, parts availability and in general ease of maintenance.
What about the Renault/ Mack defense Armoured Kerax 8x8, Mercedes Defence armoured Actros 8x8, Oshkosh Defense Global HET/ M1070A1 HET, Oshkosh Defense PLS, Oshkosh Defense HEMTT ? They all above the $175 000.
he doesn't spell it wrong... or are you spell DAF, FIAT or SEAT in the same way? No.... but DAF and the rest are not words, they are also shortcuts like MAN....or like normal people say - Man (and yes, BMW you cannot spell as a one word...well maybe in welsch its possible, but what I know)
@@walther2492 if you showcased MAN & Zetros as military vehicle, then Arocs also have made for military purpose. I hav driven one already in 8x8 configuration. So this comment make sense.
Funny that the US bought that shit box off the shelf commercial truck from International. That thing looked like it was about to shake itself to bits. Likely, they just went to uhaul, bought some old stock, painted them tan and sold them to the government for 300k each.
Why do the Navistar trucks cost soo much? I have always been an huge fan of IHC, but damn! Somebody took advantage of a US military contract. Maybe the US should go foreign for any trucks we carry contracts for.
America needs to STOP going foreign for Anything that we can produce. America needs to hit foreign importers with huge import taxes like other countries do to us. America needs to give companies incentives and tax breaks for keeping companies in America, or bringing them here. All this bullshit importing and outsourcing is Destroying America. We used to make it all, we can do it again. Eff joe biden, his DemoNcrat CoWhores, and Everyday who voted for that RACIST Tyrannical Traitor
Truth be told I’d rather have, if I had the money would be a Russian truck and here’s the reason why. They’re not the best looking trucks, because they were never meant to be but they’re cheap, extremely reliable and with very little maintenance they’ll run forever and my favourite Russian trucks are the Uralic and the kraz
In this case, the mercedes is cheaper because it is not a custom-made military product and is produced in large series. the Zetros is a truck that is often seen in normal road traffic by construction companies or shipping companies
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the last one was a total beast i think . All the rest had small capacity but that MAN monster beats them all with ease .
MAN is a monster
last (MAN) track I love it
Great video thanks! Would love to drive them all!
Definitely last 2 being a caterpillar mechanic I'd take the cat of course and use it for RV Exploring GREAT VIDEO 👍
very nice
Tatrapan is stil genial concept of chasis produced by Tatra. Nice hood, but all is on Tatra base..it´s main base of succes...
I agree, Slovaks could never produce it without Tatra base.
@@darenzy why the hate? :D:D:D anyone can buy the chassis and build on it ...its sold as an everyday item.
@@darenzy Tatra is slovak my friend...
I'm surprised the Oshkosh HET didn't make the list.
When talking about diesel engines, you've gotta give the lb-ft TORQUE! These trucks use high torque to carry these big loads, not horsepower. Drives us, already neurotic, mechanical engineers nuts!
It is the engines capability to produce “work” that carries big loads. The amount of work an engine is capable of is measured in kW or bhp. A high torque rating over a wide band of engine speed is nice to have, but in the end you can get around low torque with low gearing. You can’t use gearing to get around a low power rating (kW/bhp).
I’m not sure you are a mechanical engineer...
@@AndreasBrOlesen
Wow way to overanalyze one sentence. You realize this is TH-cam, not an ASME forum.
He's talking about big diesel engines and only quoting horsepower rating, not torque. Since torque output is much higher than HP in diesel engines. I just wanted to know the torque rating of the engines. I wasn't writing a thesis on the topic! Why are you suddenly bringing up gearing like nobody knows how the powertrain works. And yes, I am a mechanical engineer and you sound like some freshman in college lvl knowledge who just passed thermo and thinks they're the smartest person in the world. I took a break from actual engineering work to get on TH-cam to find your pompous self.
@@AndreasBrOlesen next are you going to write an essay critiquing my characterization of engineers as neurotic? You proved that with the first post
@@J_McPhearsom Wow relax dude. You simple made an incorrect statement in your original comment "trucks use high torque to carry big loads". Then you state that it drives you mechanical engineers nuts, but why would it when the statement is wrong. To have an engine do work, yes you need torque if you want the work to be done at idle engine speeds, you need a lots of torque! but it is still the engines power rating that dictates how much work the engine is capable of producing. If you really want to analyse the engines power characteristics, you really need a complete power and torque curve anyway. Theres a reason why the power rating of a truck/tractor is often part of the model name, not the torque rating.
@@AndreasBrOlesen I was generalizing that the high torque generated by the engine (yes at low rpm) is responsible for the work (ft-lb) needed to move such heavy vehicles and loads. I refrained from specific terms like 'work' since my assumption is most ppl aren't engineers.
What peaked my interest are these large diesel engines, optimized for these applications and duty cycles. And yes if I really wanted to know, best to look the HP, TQ curves. To me, the narrator seems to be mentioning these mechanical specs without understanding.
I like the Man Kat turned into an RV
Great video Thank you ...... What about OSHKOSH M978A4?
nice video
07:10 - MZKT-742960, a tractor unit
07:33 - MZKT-741500, a tractor unit developed from the MZKT-7930
Unimog ftw
Tatrapan is based on trucks Tatra, czech truck producer. Nice modification, but still czech base...holding weight
Wrong, Tatra is totally Slovac made..
Yes, now TATRA is czech producer, but with the developing of these trucks helped many Slovaks too. It was czechoslovak brand in the past.
Dear Incredible Facts, Would you be so kind to tell me what is this relaxing music during your video? Many Thanks
Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction more videos.
Half of these trucks cost less than a Lamborghini or a Ferrari, but you’d end up having to help everybody that knew you move all the time.
As a German, you get absolute gasps. It is not called Merceidis but Merceedes. Also MAN is not pronounced MEN but M...A...N the reason is that it is called Maschinenbau from Nuremberg.
And yet the Germans insist on pronouncing Beijing as Peking.
Oshkosh didn`t make the cut unless I slept through that bit ?
Wow..... Ashok Leyland......
The Iviko curser engine is a great choice, for my enemy. They are refered to as accursed engines.
Not so sure, my dad did 900.000km with it in Stralis 430. On the other hand that MAN's V8 is said to have terrible reliability.
I like that the Americans painted a dump truck brown, gave it some tires and now its a "tactical" vehicle.
Mercedes trucks were impressive. Why no Oshkosh?
I'm Australia so I have no bias towards any of these trucks, how ever I see a common issue across all of them, there no under body protection which going of current datat by 2021 should be by default, an absolute must!! Aside from that all of them look like they would do the job, it would come down to reliability, repair accessibility, parts availability and in general ease of maintenance.
What about the Renault/ Mack defense Armoured Kerax 8x8, Mercedes Defence armoured Actros 8x8, Oshkosh Defense Global HET/ M1070A1 HET, Oshkosh Defense PLS, Oshkosh Defense HEMTT ? They all above the $175 000.
Especially the models with the built in cargo crane on the back.
SISU and MAN 👍
2:16) In the US military, a 5 ton truck carries 5 tons cross country & 10 on paved roads.
I like all
I must be a very unobservative guy because it’s the first time I’ve seen this beauty
I like all...
Vvvvvvvv nice
I like how Kia just stuck a badge from a passenger car on the front.
Merc did the same
And here you are thinking how the heck does a Bugatti Chiron cost 3 million dollars and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in return for that price?! :)
Little information, the last one (MAN) was spelled wrong, each letter is spelled solo (M-A-N, Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg)
he doesn't spell it wrong... or are you spell DAF, FIAT or SEAT in the same way? No.... but DAF and the rest are not words, they are also shortcuts like MAN....or like normal people say - Man (and yes, BMW you cannot spell as a one word...well maybe in welsch its possible, but what I know)
I thought for sure the Oshkosh heavy tactical would be on that list.
You forgot the LVSR from Oshkosh at 500,000 a pop
I’d want that Merc if I could afford it!
Kraz currently has 14 employees and the trucks are not being proposed to anyone. I'm afraid it's the end of these legendary beasts.
You pronaunce JELCZ wrong - it's like YELLCH.
It call M-A-N , not Man, Man!
M A N stands for Maschinenwerke Augsburg Nürnberg, which means, machine works Augsburg Nürnberg (Last 2 words are cities)
@@michaelm1944 so sieht´s aus!
Thanks, everything else hurts in the ears...
Belo camião Mercedes Benz 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
My choice would be the Mercedes-Benz 2733 428 HP.
Ashok Leyland Indian truck
Not a big fan of the determiner "the", huh?
TATRA!!!
India India.জয় হিন্দ 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Todos los camiones militares están bonitos y don muy eficientes.
Los que más me gustaron .
Fueron el Mercedes Benz y el internacional Harvester .
tatra anytime.
Missing Volat
It's not MAN. It is M.A.N. - and abbreviation for the original cities for their factories.
Would you really wanna ride in a military vehicle with K.I.A on the front?
kekw) Some have no choice I think
I LOVE MERCEDES.
MAN & ZETROS 👌👌👌
MB - XETROS AND MAN HX81 🙏👍✌👋
Ashok Leyland stallion👌
You guys forgot the Scania!
This is how you pronounce Jelcz - Yelch
Instead of buying "special forces specially built ultra XX heavy hauler 2020" Just buy a Scania...
Are you serious about the cost ?? 😏
You are missing Arocs 8x8 SLT more capable than MAN which is in no.1
Is it a military vehicle? No.
Is the video about military vehicles? Yes.
Does your comment make sense? No.
@@walther2492 if you showcased MAN & Zetros as military vehicle, then Arocs also have made for military purpose. I hav driven one already in 8x8 configuration. So this comment make sense.
DiamondT was the best.
The sisu trucks were especially made for lithuania and you didnt even mention it you can literally see on the lisence plate our flag and LT
And the russian trucks for missile transport ?
What about the French PPLOG with an aproximative cost of 426000 $ ? Or the Arquus ARMIS ?
These videos are not made to be accurate, but more to have the most catching title...
I think every one of these trucks are in spintires lol
I'll have a merc zetros.
I may be wrong but I highly doubt the Kraz will be using Russian engines, lol
Using Before russian engine not now
Putin has a few Lada-engines on special...
@@ibubezi7685 buy fron huiguria
Funny that the US bought that shit box off the shelf commercial truck from International. That thing looked like it was about to shake itself to bits.
Likely, they just went to uhaul, bought some old stock, painted them tan and sold them to the government for 300k each.
💩👎🏻Do Some Ground Work , What About Kamaz , Ural , Gaz , Oskosh Trucks .
@Degdeg Yes , This Video Doesn't Have Those Vehicle's, Such A Stupid Video.
Snowrunner gang ?
1st comment and 25th like
why need to much expensive truck? Remember war means distruction..what a waste of money.
Because it gives a higher chance of troops survival and winning the war maybe think before you comment some Radom crap
It's mostly German logic, just like in WW2 with their powerful, but complicated and overweight Tigers.
That Super Stalion is Copy of TATRA Phoenix :* 02:28
what about oshkosh M1070?
Polish Jelcz 👏👏
Spot pubblicitario....Astra-Iveco?
so how much will it cost in surplus
$12.50
treefiddy
Why do the Navistar trucks cost soo much? I have always been an huge fan of IHC, but damn! Somebody took advantage of a US military contract. Maybe the US should go foreign for any trucks we carry contracts for.
LOL, those look like like the betaboy trucks.
America needs to STOP going foreign for Anything that we can produce.
America needs to hit foreign importers with huge import taxes like other countries do to us.
America needs to give companies incentives and tax breaks for keeping companies in America, or bringing them here.
All this bullshit importing and outsourcing is Destroying America.
We used to make it all, we can do it again.
Eff joe biden, his DemoNcrat CoWhores, and Everyday who voted for that RACIST Tyrannical Traitor
Where is the scania army truck ??
Slovak Tatrapan!!!
Where are the oshkosh trucks?
Jelcz you should read more like "yelch"
Bro the maz uragan put this new trucks in pocket
He says the price in U.S. dollars, but he says the weight in kg.!
Sisu
KIA truck was de best
Truth be told I’d rather have, if I had the money would be a Russian truck and here’s the reason why. They’re not the best looking trucks, because they were never meant to be but they’re cheap, extremely reliable and with very little maintenance they’ll run forever and my favourite Russian trucks are the Uralic and the kraz
Kia?
Soooooooo where is the OSHKOSH DEFENSE? HET,FMTV,MTVR,PLS????
The international truck is a joke
nr10 skit car
The mercedes benz zetros its batter than all
Where is Oshkosh?
The tata truck is most powerful is use indian army
All these trucks and no mention of tatra
Stallion
A KIA ANYTHING with a price tag more than ANYTHING Mercedes produces??
In this case, the mercedes is cheaper because it is not a custom-made military product and is produced in large series. the Zetros is a truck that is often seen in normal road traffic by construction companies or shipping companies
Das KRaZ-Werk ist pleite und hat seine Produktion eingestellt. Das gezeigte Modell ist nur ein Prototyp und wurde nie in Serie hergestellt.
"Jelcz" is to be pronouced like "Yelch".
The Oshkosh you don't have