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The worst part of Gunn helming everything is that it's gonna chip away his creativity. He might end up being like Feige now. I'd hate to see that day come.
I missed a joke about shazam saying his superhero name and thus turning back into Billy mid flight, which would be a much better reason for them continuously searching for a superhero name
@@matt8258 He hasn't been called that since the New 52, so like 2011, although its actually probably a bit later. His Shazam renaming is still quite recent, and in fact is being reversed, with him now being called "The Captain".
I still can't get over how brilliantly the scene transitions and title cards in The Suicide Squad captured the feel of a comic book, just one of the many things that makes it easily make my top five comic book film list. Plus no weak links in the characters, I remembered my friends and I talking about how any one member of the team being someone's favourite was hard to argue with. For me though Polka-Dot Man stole the show, great performance, fun practical effects and man I can't remember the last time I cared that much about a character death in a comic book film.
I think Polka dot man's story is made all the more powerful by the fact that it's sorta metatextual. Until this movie he was only ever treated as a joke past his debut, anyone who knew him knew him as a joke and he'd get brutalised or killed whenever he'd show up with very few exceptions and the readers were never supposed to care. In a way, far more than any other character who's been given arcs like this in different stories, Polka dot man was a character who didn't have a reason to live as the text he was in never cared for him, him finally being able to see himself as having worth before he dies is so powerful because neither the writers or most readers saw him as having a purpose and despite that he found one himself. I love that the final note for the character is ratcatcher keeping that fragment of his costume because it shows that he managed to make at least one person care about him
Cannot stop watching these “In Defense Of” videos. It’s about time somebody reminds us that these are for our entertainment, not cool point by nitpicking. Injecting some positivity back into the conversation was long overdue.
It seems like so many content creators like to feed off of negativity and drama, because humans are naturally pulled towards that stuff. It's like junk food for the brain. But when you realize it's not helping, that it's pulling you down with it, and what truly helps you feel better and improve yourself is positivity, you can unlearn that vicious cycle of being drawn to negativity all the time. I used to be subscribed to a lot of drama youtubers and now I rarely watch that stuff. Plus I try to not get drawn into the negativity of the world around me that's constantly pushed into your face in the news and social media. I try to focus on my own little slice of life, what I can control, what I can improve. It really does help. I think most people now a days are stuck in this vicious cycle of negativity and drama pulling them down and that's all they see in the world and so it just feeds into them feeling awful and depressed. Sorry for the rambling comment. Just stay safe ya'll and focus on the positives, however small those may seem. Try to improve your own sphere of influence one little thing at a time. If we all did that, the world would become a much better place. Not to say this is a cure all, but it definitely helps and is a step in the right direction. Enjoy the positives in life, because unlike what the media and people try to tell you, there's a lot in our modern world that has improved for the better and can help bring you joy and meaning!
@@Freak80MCcriticizing things isn’t dramatic or negative, it’s calling out the bad. It says more about you than them that you assume criticizing a big budget Hollywood film is toxic
My favorite part for The Suicide Squad was that when the cast was announced we still didn’t know who was gonna die. A returning actor in a team of course he’s gonna survive, a loveanle animal sure he might die James Gunn didn’t make it obvious who was gonna die and who was gonna survive
I remember being super adamant that Mongal would survive because she was such a Drax character. I did absolutely know that Savant and Arms Fall Off would die early since they're Gunn's friends
@@Lionbright ESPECIALLY Fillion. Gunn loves having him get killed/abused as a gag cameo. Savant I was a LITTLE more on the fence with, since it is a fun character and Yondu served the GotG series so well.
Hot Take: I think Peacemaker is the best thing James Gunn has done with the superhero genre, based on him merging his own style and the genre tropes and the runtime given for him to explore the characters. I kind of wish he did more TV shows because I think that long term storytelling is where he shines best
I liked how he as a director brought a lot out of John cena. There is a ton of depth to the genre while understanding you SHOULD go crazy with it cause stuff like bat-mite and staro the conquerer make comics insane and interesting
Huh. That is a hot take. Idk. I like Guardians of the Galaxy best. I love Peacemaker though. It's very old school Gunn. Crass, violent, hilariously dark.
"Making your money back is not bombing." I agree. I think it's insane that so many studios need billions and billions before they think a movie should be greenlit for a sequel.
Our economic expectations are out of order, companies no longer accept down periods or unforseen events. Every quarter must beat the previous, that's not realistic or sustainable.
I am still really sad that we'll never get to see Brendan Frasier as Firefly in Batgirl. I can't tell you how excited behind the scenes footage made me to see how he would handle playing that character. I cannot ever forgive Warner Bros for their misstep
Fun Fact: IFor The Suicide Squad, Idris Elba was initially hired to replace Will Smith as Floyd Lawton/Deadshot, but it was later decided that Elba would play a new character (Bloodsport) to allow Smith to return in the future.
I still think he should’ve played bronze tiger. Not that blood sport wasn’t cool. I liked his design the helmet and how he can make weapons out of his suit i still think Idris Elba fits more Bronze Tiger
I know movies getting scrapped happens a lot but every time Batgirl is mentioned I just let out a sigh. That had so much potential especially with Michael Keaton, JK Simmons, and Brendon Fraser.
A sigh is the minimum reaction the whole Batgirl situation can generate, you don't just nuke a pretty much already made 90 million dollar movie that sounded better than at least a third of what WB released with the DC IP. You can't convince me that Batgirl would've ruined DC as a brand when these guys released movies like Catwoman.
The tone for that film would be confusing for audiences. Her costume looks like a cartoon, but it’s supposed to be in the dark and scary part of the DCEU. And they probably thought that the race swap made her unrecognizable to comic fans. Which isn’t her defining characteristic, but it adds to the confusion. At least that’s what I think the SUITS at WB thought when they cancelled it.
@marcamusprime9513 I would buy that the suits would think something like that. Don't forget that the film was supposed to release post The Flash and feature Micahel Keaton as the default universe Batman. Then they decided to walk back that decision, removing Michael from The Flash's ending and his cameo in Aquaman 2. I'm guessing he was a bit more than a cameo in Batgirl meaning reshoots would cost more than the budget allowed, so they crunched the numbers and decided it would be more financially viable to just scrap it for taxes. Thing is they didn't even need to walk back the Keaton thing cause they were rebooting by the end of that same year, so it wouldn't matter anyway
Praise for The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker has been dealt en masse so I want to appreciate the appreciation of Birds Of Prey. I told everyone to go watch it and that it was great but few people listened and it's so validating to hear it praised as it deserves.
As a long term fan of Captain Marvel... I LOVED Shazam! The fact it was basically using the most recent version as a script blew me away. Also.. while writing this comment... could you picture James Gunn doing "I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League"????
Glad to hear someone else sing the praises of Birds of Prey. It was such a fun and fantastic romp with great characterization, writing, and action. It got totally robbed.
Agreed, I think it's the most underrated superhero movie, I didn't have very high expectations for it after seeing reviews but after watching it I felt like I'd seen a completely different movie than what everyone else saw.
Same in regards to BOP, I think die hard DC fans got hung up on Cass's portrayal being too different from her comic book counterpart and how the film felt more like a Harley Quinn movie than Birds of Prey movie, but every trailer *advertised it* as a HQ movie so I could never understand that complaint
This isn’t supposed to be in anyway a hate comment btw BUT I honestly completely forgot the Birds Of Prey movie existed. I think it was probably just the INSANELY unfortunate timing of it’s release but I didn’t even know it came out till like a half a year or so later.
I thought I was the only one who liked Birds of Prey, I'm glad a famous TH-camr agrees. The only thing I didn't like is them revamping Cassandra Cain, they should've used a different DC character.
My only fear with Gunn taking over is that EVERYTHING will be like Guardians, Suicide Squad and Peacemaker because that is all ive seen him put out. My favorite MCU movies are the ones that broke the mold and felt different from the standard. Gunns movies are partially great BECAUSE they stand out as different all the others they're connected to.
I absolutely loved Birds of Prey, one of my favorite superhero movies. And I really loved all of the Cyborg story lines for Snydercut, Ray Fisher was amazing and WB blew it being awful to him. Jusr don't read anything about what the JLA sequel would have been had Snyder continued (Lois baby drama? Ugh). Can't wait for more Peacemaker since Gunn won't write out his wife's character.
Man am I happy with this video. Your whole section on Birds of Prey is just what I wanted to hear 6:08 in particular. It's probably my favourite DCEU film, and I honestly think it's much better than the Barbie movie, especially when it comes to it's exploration of the experiences of women in society. You understand the motivations & backstory of the characters so well it makes for a hugely satisfying watch. 16:45 Woah didn't know you loved Taskmaster, this Taskmaster obsessed Brit is very happy to hear it. It's always fun seeing UK comedians/comedic actors in mainstream films. WW84 is a guilty pleasure of mine, I know it's bad but I sort of love it. And props for highlighting the cool action scenes in it, they certainly have a Raimi Spider-man feel.
I feel like everyone has Stockholm Syndrome with the Snyder cut of Justice League, yes it made more sense than the theatrical cut, but 4 hours for that story is crazy and the two scenes where Joker talks to Batman and Batman talks to Martian Manhunter are worse than anything int the theatrical cut by far.
I am so so sooo glad I watched Peacemaker. The big funny here is why I watched it: cause the intro was cited as one of the big inspirations for "Herald of Darkness" from Alan Wake 2. I love that portion of the game so much I had to check out the source. Am I glad I did. I loved it.
25:11 🎵 DO YOU REALLY WANNA, DO YOU REALLY WANNA TASTE IT?! 🎵 25:31 Simple explanation: David Corenswet as Superman, whomever James Gunn casts as Wonder Woman, Lobo in an Aquaman costume, Ambush Bug (actual DC character) in a Flash costume.
James gun actually restored my hype and faith to see a live action dc universe like I grew up reading Superman and all these wild characters and I feel like after watching peacemaker and the suicide squad I’ve never been more hype not since early mcu days tbh
I managed to see Birds of Prey in theaters six times before the world shut down. I absolutely love Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. And I absolutely agree with you; The Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey are my favorite DC movies.
I'm glad to hear someone celebrating Harley Quinn. I loved that movie but never knew any of all the BTS production, no wonder. Those "second phase" post JL films, Shazam, Harley, and Aquaman, along with Wonder Woman, really felt like they were achieving the WB/DC pitch of director driven movies to make movies that were creatively unique and different yet I could see all functioning in the same world. Very comic book. To me it was looking like a promising future.
You liked "Canadian Tuxedo", but I loved "gender-bent Alfred E. Neuman". That whole classroom scene is hilarious, especially "intolerable d-bag" given recent events.
Going back to the discussion of Harley’s close in birds of prey, the worst part of suicide squad is that they made literally the best Harley Quinn suit that could’ve possibly been made and then had her wear a boring red dress for 95% of the movie. I also really liked Kristen Wigg as cheetah it was my favorite part of the movie but I get it kind of clashes tonally
Peacemaker is the only DCEU project I haven’t watched, he was my least fav part of TSS, hated him by the end & just wasn’t interested in the show. So I never watched it. Maybe 1 day tho
I really think ZSJL could have been 3 hours without meaningfully cutting it. You remove the completely pointless 30-minute Knightmare epilogue, and shorten the million times Wonder Woman does something in slomo while it goes “ahhhhhAaahAHHHahhhh”
Bingo, done. I’ve been very critical of ZS ever since BvS and retroactively man of steel I felt BvS dropped the potential ball I thought could’ve redeemed MoS. Despite my problems with his take on DC, I genuinely enjoyed his JL. But the slowmo, the chanting during the slow mo, the future segment. It’s like he was so close. There was no reason it had to be 4 hours. The part where the villagers sing as Aquaman walks into the ocean, I was super scared the movie was going to be the worst. I think he just needed someone to mitigate some of the pretentiousness.
And also cut Martian Manhunter pretending to be Martha Kent, why can’t it just be Martha that talks to Lois? You can keep the ending with him and Bruce but just remove the reveal that he was pretending to be Martha
I like Gunn, but I think he's better at lesser known heroes that he can put his own spin on. Ambush bug as DC's Deadpool or Legion of Superheroes as there Guardians would be my call. Peacemaker is actually my favourite DC project.
I think the Legion of Superhero's are too different from the Guardians. They're not silly rogue goofballs, their teens with the weight of the galaxy on their shoulders, but I see what you mean. For me, Sun Boy, Polar Boy, Ultra Boy, Andromeda and Mon-El have the most potential.
@@ProjektTaku what I meaning is they a group with almost zero public profile, large cast. He could do whatever he wanted with it. He favours stuff like this. Heck he could go completely goofball with the legion of substitute heroes or mainstream with Superboy or Super Girl. I think it would totally suit him.
@@Whalewraith True, but I don't think he should fully reinvent them. The Legion aren't super high profile due to terrible reboots, but they have tons of stories to pull from and characters that don't need to be changed all that much like GOTG or SS to be interesting. Also, no overly sunny, silly fools trope like so many writers fall into.
@@ProjektTaku They have so many members & styles he can just pick what he needs. You have a scale from the Dark reboot of Grim & Gritty which led directly into the 'fun' young legion being found in pods. Can't remember who ended up being clones. Classic Legion in The Darkness saga or even goofball with the Legion of Substitute heroes. I've got myself all excited now and I'm going to be pulling some back issues over the holiday.
According to Variety, BOP was budgeted between $82-100 million, and factoring in marketing and distribution, and it's break even point was $250 million. (Theaters get half of the box office). It made $205 million. It lost money.
How did they not animate a more believable shockwave for a stone structure hitting the ground next to people? That impact would took folks off their feet
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I think Melchior is pronounced "Mel" + "shhhh" + "i" + "or". At least that's how the name is pronounced in Portugal
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I absolutely love Peacemaker. For me, the worst part about Gunn helming everything is that season 2 has been delayed
Absolute trash.
@@adegbuluyemi5926 What?
@@adegbuluyemi5926Nah
It might be filming in June with Superman
The worst part of Gunn helming everything is that it's gonna chip away his creativity. He might end up being like Feige now.
I'd hate to see that day come.
I missed a joke about shazam saying his superhero name and thus turning back into Billy mid flight, which would be a much better reason for them continuously searching for a superhero name
his name is captain marvel
@@UltraVioletKnight No he isn't
@@UltraVioletKnighthe hasn’t been since at least the early 2000s, if not earlier than that
@@matt8258 He hasn't been called that since the New 52, so like 2011, although its actually probably a bit later. His Shazam renaming is still quite recent, and in fact is being reversed, with him now being called "The Captain".
@@ProjektTaku Look at me. I am The Captain now.
“I was happy, floating, staring at the stars” 😭
"Now he's just an ornament in my living room. Ew. I love it!" Had me laughing out loud. Ewan really chewed the scenery in the best way possible.
I still can't get over how brilliantly the scene transitions and title cards in The Suicide Squad captured the feel of a comic book, just one of the many things that makes it easily make my top five comic book film list. Plus no weak links in the characters, I remembered my friends and I talking about how any one member of the team being someone's favourite was hard to argue with. For me though Polka-Dot Man stole the show, great performance, fun practical effects and man I can't remember the last time I cared that much about a character death in a comic book film.
I think Polka dot man's story is made all the more powerful by the fact that it's sorta metatextual. Until this movie he was only ever treated as a joke past his debut, anyone who knew him knew him as a joke and he'd get brutalised or killed whenever he'd show up with very few exceptions and the readers were never supposed to care. In a way, far more than any other character who's been given arcs like this in different stories, Polka dot man was a character who didn't have a reason to live as the text he was in never cared for him, him finally being able to see himself as having worth before he dies is so powerful because neither the writers or most readers saw him as having a purpose and despite that he found one himself. I love that the final note for the character is ratcatcher keeping that fragment of his costume because it shows that he managed to make at least one person care about him
Cannot stop watching these “In Defense Of” videos. It’s about time somebody reminds us that these are for our entertainment, not cool point by nitpicking. Injecting some positivity back into the conversation was long overdue.
It seems like so many content creators like to feed off of negativity and drama, because humans are naturally pulled towards that stuff. It's like junk food for the brain. But when you realize it's not helping, that it's pulling you down with it, and what truly helps you feel better and improve yourself is positivity, you can unlearn that vicious cycle of being drawn to negativity all the time.
I used to be subscribed to a lot of drama youtubers and now I rarely watch that stuff. Plus I try to not get drawn into the negativity of the world around me that's constantly pushed into your face in the news and social media. I try to focus on my own little slice of life, what I can control, what I can improve. It really does help. I think most people now a days are stuck in this vicious cycle of negativity and drama pulling them down and that's all they see in the world and so it just feeds into them feeling awful and depressed.
Sorry for the rambling comment. Just stay safe ya'll and focus on the positives, however small those may seem. Try to improve your own sphere of influence one little thing at a time. If we all did that, the world would become a much better place. Not to say this is a cure all, but it definitely helps and is a step in the right direction. Enjoy the positives in life, because unlike what the media and people try to tell you, there's a lot in our modern world that has improved for the better and can help bring you joy and meaning!
@@Freak80MC No apology necessary. This comment was a pleasure to read
What if we aren’t entertained?
@@Freak80MCcriticizing things isn’t dramatic or negative, it’s calling out the bad. It says more about you than them that you assume criticizing a big budget Hollywood film is toxic
My favorite part for The Suicide Squad was that when the cast was announced we still didn’t know who was gonna die. A returning actor in a team of course he’s gonna survive, a loveanle animal sure he might die James Gunn didn’t make it obvious who was gonna die and who was gonna survive
But it was also so big that you knew some of them HAD to die.
@@hartthornof course but my point was I didn’t really knew who I had theories. Like King Shark, most of the first team
Making it so that there was two teams, with one of them being bait in the opening was genius
I remember being super adamant that Mongal would survive because she was such a Drax character. I did absolutely know that Savant and Arms Fall Off would die early since they're Gunn's friends
@@Lionbright ESPECIALLY Fillion. Gunn loves having him get killed/abused as a gag cameo.
Savant I was a LITTLE more on the fence with, since it is a fun character and Yondu served the GotG series so well.
Hot Take: I think Peacemaker is the best thing James Gunn has done with the superhero genre, based on him merging his own style and the genre tropes and the runtime given for him to explore the characters. I kind of wish he did more TV shows because I think that long term storytelling is where he shines best
Isn't a cinematic universe long-term storytelling?
I liked how he as a director brought a lot out of John cena. There is a ton of depth to the genre while understanding you SHOULD go crazy with it cause stuff like bat-mite and staro the conquerer make comics insane and interesting
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Huh. That is a hot take. Idk. I like Guardians of the Galaxy best. I love Peacemaker though. It's very old school Gunn. Crass, violent, hilariously dark.
Pedro Pascal’s transformation as Maxwell Lord proves that he has the acting chops to be Marvel’s Reed Richards.
🤬Noooo!
I think a lot of people are stuck on John being in the role, I've seen people talk about Pedro's age like John isnt a whole 5 years younger.
He's literal garbage in that film 😂
I liked Shazam a lot. It was a very fun time with heart. Not everything needs to be hyperserious
"Making your money back is not bombing." I agree. I think it's insane that so many studios need billions and billions before they think a movie should be greenlit for a sequel.
Our economic expectations are out of order, companies no longer accept down periods or unforseen events.
Every quarter must beat the previous, that's not realistic or sustainable.
I am still really sad that we'll never get to see Brendan Frasier as Firefly in Batgirl. I can't tell you how excited behind the scenes footage made me to see how he would handle playing that character. I cannot ever forgive Warner Bros for their misstep
Also want to say I absolutely loved the Invisible Jet scene in WA84. Really shines in that not so shiny movie
The backstory of the Peacemaker intro dance made me smile!
Fun Fact: IFor The Suicide Squad, Idris Elba was initially hired to replace Will Smith as Floyd Lawton/Deadshot, but it was later decided that Elba would play a new character (Bloodsport) to allow Smith to return in the future.
I still think he should’ve played bronze tiger. Not that blood sport wasn’t cool. I liked his design the helmet and how he can make weapons out of his suit i still think Idris Elba fits more Bronze Tiger
@InevitableOption-ic2vx didn’t know that genius move
They're gonna make a new character for Smith in the DCU called "Slapmaster."
@@JoeJoe-lq6bd real name being "Richard"!
I know movies getting scrapped happens a lot but every time Batgirl is mentioned I just let out a sigh. That had so much potential especially with Michael Keaton, JK Simmons, and Brendon Fraser.
A sigh is the minimum reaction the whole Batgirl situation can generate, you don't just nuke a pretty much already made 90 million dollar movie that sounded better than at least a third of what WB released with the DC IP. You can't convince me that Batgirl would've ruined DC as a brand when these guys released movies like Catwoman.
The tone for that film would be confusing for audiences. Her costume looks like a cartoon, but it’s supposed to be in the dark and scary part of the DCEU.
And they probably thought that the race swap made her unrecognizable to comic fans. Which isn’t her defining characteristic, but it adds to the confusion.
At least that’s what I think the SUITS at WB thought when they cancelled it.
@marcamusprime9513 I would buy that the suits would think something like that. Don't forget that the film was supposed to release post The Flash and feature Micahel Keaton as the default universe Batman. Then they decided to walk back that decision, removing Michael from The Flash's ending and his cameo in Aquaman 2. I'm guessing he was a bit more than a cameo in Batgirl meaning reshoots would cost more than the budget allowed, so they crunched the numbers and decided it would be more financially viable to just scrap it for taxes. Thing is they didn't even need to walk back the Keaton thing cause they were rebooting by the end of that same year, so it wouldn't matter anyway
Didn't James Gunn say that the movie was bad? I would be surprised if it was. I still want to see it, though
Surprised you haven’t made a fancast for the DCEU Batman or terry McGinnis. It would be fye
it's coming
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Shazam was actually filmed in Toronto (and the GTA) not Vancouver.
I completely agree with everything you said about Birds of Prey, especially the music, I think it's one of my favourite movie soundtracks.
Outside of WW84, this stretch of DCEU projects is simply the best.
Praise for The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker has been dealt en masse so I want to appreciate the appreciation of Birds Of Prey. I told everyone to go watch it and that it was great but few people listened and it's so validating to hear it praised as it deserves.
I'd forgotten there was anything I enjoyed in that Wonder Woman sequel
WigWam is from Norway. Norway is a tiny country. Their songs finding new international popularity through this show became *national news*
Hot take : Shazam's family should be in James Gunn's DCU.
This is why I love your videos. I never know what the next is gonna be. Keep it up!
A fancasting video for the rogues would be great! (Just keep Wentworth Miller, he IS captain cold)
As a long term fan of Captain Marvel... I LOVED Shazam! The fact it was basically using the most recent version as a script blew me away. Also.. while writing this comment... could you picture James Gunn doing "I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League"????
So beyond excited to watch this video
Glad to hear someone else sing the praises of Birds of Prey. It was such a fun and fantastic romp with great characterization, writing, and action. It got totally robbed.
Agreed, I think it's the most underrated superhero movie, I didn't have very high expectations for it after seeing reviews but after watching it I felt like I'd seen a completely different movie than what everyone else saw.
Shazam and Birds of Prey are excellent agreed. Never understood the hate for BOP, always thought it was banging.
Same in regards to BOP, I think die hard DC fans got hung up on Cass's portrayal being too different from her comic book counterpart and how the film felt more like a Harley Quinn movie than Birds of Prey movie, but every trailer *advertised it* as a HQ movie so I could never understand that complaint
This isn’t supposed to be in anyway a hate comment btw BUT I honestly completely forgot the Birds Of Prey movie existed.
I think it was probably just the INSANELY unfortunate timing of it’s release but I didn’t even know it came out till like a half a year or so later.
vigilante is also cormac mcclaggen in Hary Potter. Such a different character lol guy has range
Birds of Prey is so Underappreciated. i'm glad to hear any Positivity about it.
I love how wild, weird, and willing to take risks Gunn is! It makes me hopeful that the new movies will be great!
I thought I was the only one who liked Birds of Prey, I'm glad a famous TH-camr agrees. The only thing I didn't like is them revamping Cassandra Cain, they should've used a different DC character.
My only fear with Gunn taking over is that EVERYTHING will be like Guardians, Suicide Squad and Peacemaker because that is all ive seen him put out. My favorite MCU movies are the ones that broke the mold and felt different from the standard. Gunns movies are partially great BECAUSE they stand out as different all the others they're connected to.
James Gunn himself has talked about his desire to create tonal difference in the dcu. I think it will be fine
@@anenemystand5582he also said he wanted Swamp Thing to be a horror movie
"Gee, this video seems familiar but I haven't upvoted it" "Oh yeah, I must have watched it on Nebula!" 😄
Love your videos nando can’t wait to watch this one
Aaron fischer just craps 💩 on the dcu/gunn and the batman 2022, what a fan.
I never understood the hate for birds of prey. when I finally watched it after hearing nothing but vitriol for it, I was so confused, BoP is so fun
Birds of Prey was mislabeled. It should have just been Harley Quin. I would have preferred a Mad Love movie though.
That Peacemaker theme is unbeatable! 😁
Finally, man. I waited so long for this video...
I know what you're gonna say
I absolutely loved Birds of Prey, one of my favorite superhero movies. And I really loved all of the Cyborg story lines for Snydercut, Ray Fisher was amazing and WB blew it being awful to him. Jusr don't read anything about what the JLA sequel would have been had Snyder continued (Lois baby drama? Ugh). Can't wait for more Peacemaker since Gunn won't write out his wife's character.
Really appreciate the thoughts and insights you shared in this review. An absolute delight.
20:45 On the note of Polka Dot Man now being a well known character, Im still waiting on a Condiment King Max series!
You have successfully convinced me to watch Birds of Prey, congratulations.
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
Man am I happy with this video.
Your whole section on Birds of Prey is just what I wanted to hear 6:08 in particular.
It's probably my favourite DCEU film, and I honestly think it's much better than the Barbie movie, especially when it comes to it's exploration of the experiences of women in society. You understand the motivations & backstory of the characters so well it makes for a hugely satisfying watch.
16:45 Woah didn't know you loved Taskmaster, this Taskmaster obsessed Brit is very happy to hear it. It's always fun seeing UK comedians/comedic actors in mainstream films.
WW84 is a guilty pleasure of mine, I know it's bad but I sort of love it. And props for highlighting the cool action scenes in it, they certainly have a Raimi Spider-man feel.
I would love a famcasting video of the rogues
Mann got me bouta rewatch some of these like BoP, The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker
I haven't seen many quality channels that feature Marvel _and_ DC. That alone is enough for me to sub
I feel like everyone has Stockholm Syndrome with the Snyder cut of Justice League, yes it made more sense than the theatrical cut, but 4 hours for that story is crazy and the two scenes where Joker talks to Batman and Batman talks to Martian Manhunter are worse than anything int the theatrical cut by far.
The Dim Mak scene was a central scene for the SS movie to me. Everything about the team's chemistry put into simplistic form.
Your review of BoP was one of the best I’ve ever heard. I couldn’t agree me
I am so so sooo glad I watched Peacemaker. The big funny here is why I watched it: cause the intro was cited as one of the big inspirations for "Herald of Darkness" from Alan Wake 2. I love that portion of the game so much I had to check out the source. Am I glad I did. I loved it.
Birds of prey is one of my favorite superhero movies of all time, i genuinely wish it got so much more love
I’m so glad someone, finally, doesn’t make me feel crazy for loving birds of prey
Big fan of all your work!
17:25 TFP Megatron & Starscream MENTION 😳✨️ WE LOVE TO SEE IT
The first Shazam Movie was great!
25:11 🎵 DO YOU REALLY WANNA, DO YOU REALLY WANNA TASTE IT?! 🎵
25:31 Simple explanation: David Corenswet as Superman, whomever James Gunn casts as Wonder Woman, Lobo in an Aquaman costume, Ambush Bug (actual DC character) in a Flash costume.
Can’t believe Nando didn’t mention the best part of ZSJL: the restoration of “You should probably move”
#releasetheyoushouldprobablymovecutofindefenseoftheDCEUtheriseofgunn
James gun actually restored my hype and faith to see a live action dc universe like I grew up reading Superman and all these wild characters and I feel like after watching peacemaker and the suicide squad I’ve never been more hype not since early mcu days tbh
Until his fans felt like they wanted more they were owed the restored universe when that wasn’t the case
I managed to see Birds of Prey in theaters six times before the world shut down. I absolutely love Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn.
And I absolutely agree with you; The Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey are my favorite DC movies.
love these videos
I'm glad to hear someone celebrating Harley Quinn. I loved that movie but never knew any of all the BTS production, no wonder.
Those "second phase" post JL films, Shazam, Harley, and Aquaman, along with Wonder Woman, really felt like they were achieving the WB/DC pitch of director driven movies to make movies that were creatively unique and different yet I could see all functioning in the same world. Very comic book. To me it was looking like a promising future.
Bruh. For real. Thank you for putting into words what I couldn't
Dave bautista is the best wrestler turned actor
You liked "Canadian Tuxedo", but I loved "gender-bent Alfred E. Neuman". That whole classroom scene is hilarious, especially "intolerable d-bag" given recent events.
I watch the DCEU movies all the time, way more than the MCU
Had to comment 3 times
Fantastic video
Personaly i am more a marvel guy, but i always enjoy a nice positive video. There is to much hate on TH-cam
Happy to see birds of prey love, it was a very run/memorable watch for me.
James Gunn is the pumpkin spice of directors
Going back to the discussion of Harley’s close in birds of prey, the worst part of suicide squad is that they made literally the best Harley Quinn suit that could’ve possibly been made and then had her wear a boring red dress for 95% of the movie. I also really liked Kristen Wigg as cheetah it was my favorite part of the movie but I get it kind of clashes tonally
Peacemaker is the only DCEU project I haven’t watched, he was my least fav part of TSS, hated him by the end & just wasn’t interested in the show. So I never watched it.
Maybe 1 day tho
Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad are my favorite DCAU things!
I'm so glad someone on this platform appreciates Bird's of Prey.
The Suicide Squad is one of my fave CBMs period :D
I just realized that in the WW84 segment, Nando was playing Jortstorm by Slimecicle in the background.
I'm all on board the Gunniverse
I would love a video of exclusively Nando’s Favorite Jackets. I subscribe to Nebula and would watch it there 😂
I do regret not seeing Shazam in theaters, the only superhero movie I feel that way about, I feel the opposite about 2 or 3 lol
I love bird of prey so much! Thank you Nando
Its hard being a DC fan....
I really think ZSJL could have been 3 hours without meaningfully cutting it. You remove the completely pointless 30-minute Knightmare epilogue, and shorten the million times Wonder Woman does something in slomo while it goes “ahhhhhAaahAHHHahhhh”
Cut the slow mo and the movie is legit 30 minutes shorter
Bingo, done. I’ve been very critical of ZS ever since BvS and retroactively man of steel I felt BvS dropped the potential ball I thought could’ve redeemed MoS. Despite my problems with his take on DC, I genuinely enjoyed his JL. But the slowmo, the chanting during the slow mo, the future segment. It’s like he was so close. There was no reason it had to be 4 hours. The part where the villagers sing as Aquaman walks into the ocean, I was super scared the movie was going to be the worst. I think he just needed someone to mitigate some of the pretentiousness.
And also cut Martian Manhunter pretending to be Martha Kent, why can’t it just be Martha that talks to Lois? You can keep the ending with him and Bruce but just remove the reveal that he was pretending to be Martha
If Rebel Moon taught us anything its that Zack Snyder thinks slow mo is actually a substitute for storytelling
I like Gunn, but I think he's better at lesser known heroes that he can put his own spin on. Ambush bug as DC's Deadpool or Legion of Superheroes as there Guardians would be my call.
Peacemaker is actually my favourite DC project.
James Gunn Legion would be amazing - such an underrated team
I think the Legion of Superhero's are too different from the Guardians. They're not silly rogue goofballs, their teens with the weight of the galaxy on their shoulders, but I see what you mean. For me, Sun Boy, Polar Boy, Ultra Boy, Andromeda and Mon-El have the most potential.
@@ProjektTaku what I meaning is they a group with almost zero public profile, large cast. He could do whatever he wanted with it. He favours stuff like this. Heck he could go completely goofball with the legion of substitute heroes or mainstream with Superboy or Super Girl. I think it would totally suit him.
@@Whalewraith True, but I don't think he should fully reinvent them. The Legion aren't super high profile due to terrible reboots, but they have tons of stories to pull from and characters that don't need to be changed all that much like GOTG or SS to be interesting. Also, no overly sunny, silly fools trope like so many writers fall into.
@@ProjektTaku They have so many members & styles he can just pick what he needs. You have a scale from the Dark reboot of Grim & Gritty which led directly into the 'fun' young legion being found in pods. Can't remember who ended up being clones. Classic Legion in The Darkness saga or even goofball with the Legion of Substitute heroes. I've got myself all excited now and I'm going to be pulling some back issues over the holiday.
Man The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker made the entire DCEU worth it
Birds of Prey praise is always welcome
Dude! Birds of Pray is AMAZING!!!!!!
There was so many bangers in this era
5:56 what was wrong with suicide squad?
According to Variety, BOP was budgeted between $82-100 million, and factoring in marketing and distribution, and it's break even point was $250 million. (Theaters get half of the box office). It made $205 million. It lost money.
best thing about WW84 is the amount of sleep i get while it is on
Birds of Prey is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it’s one of the only genuinely feminist superhero movies
How did they not animate a more believable shockwave for a stone structure hitting the ground next to people? That impact would took folks off their feet
I didn't even know "The Suicide Squad" existed