this is genuinely the best MO tutorial on youtube. couldnt have asked for anything better and i dont praise vids like this often. seriously good work and its obvious you genuinely wanna help people
I come back to this too often... maybe you could give a general framework for a good moveset(combo extenders, guard breaks, combo starters etc.). that could help with hybrid builds especially.
I think upper body muscle is the only one that helps. I got a 700/400 split and ever since I reached 1k stamina I've been gaining around 50 stamina every 65%. Before it was 70
Yo bro im using wrestling rn and wondering what moves i should get cuz suplex and shoulder bash are kinda mid now. (Cuz i think suplex doesn't take chain suplex off cd anymore and shoulder bash also got nerfed)Any reccomendations for other moves?
Do you have any recommendations for a razor edge boxing hybrid, as i didnt wanna go boxing style because the damage isnt great and i dont really like side kick that much
I don't know if you still play Mighty Omega but If I wanted to get 75 - 100 TP in a week, what would I use? Like does the macros I use matter that much (Tinytask) or is there a better macro because Idk if I can get the paid access one. Also, what would I need to do to increase my gains multipliers?
I'm asking because some guy said he got 75 TP in a week from simply looking at this guide. I want to one up it and reach 80 - 100 TP from being a completely fresh noob. I still got my 3 Days Noob Protection too.
Right so you're going to want to get the Vivace macro, check out my Beginner's guide I talk about both Senya and Vivace in there. Going for muscle and stamina you'll get a lot of TP very quickly.
I think combining those two styles together is insane. With that being said, Roundhouse Kick, Flying Teep, Tiger Bite, Body Slam, Elbow Drop, Shoulder Bash. Last skill is from sumo but its very helpful.
Just got the chance to get my first movie and I was checking your advice, how would I get Tiger Bite when it's a pure? If you don't reply it's fine since I can always find a replacement. On a side note I have been working on 2 different accounts that are not this build. With one being Sanji with Capo and Taek and the other build being pure advanced. I just felt like updating this rq. Thanks for the feedback with the wrestling
@@jayinvictus3945 Get 3 abilities in muay, pick up tiger bite, get rid of one of the other abilities. Tiger Bite itself counts as a muay thai skill so the pure remains usable
what do you mean by total muscle? like for example 400 upper and 400 lower = 800 total muscle? or do both need to be 800 muscle in order to get 3000 stam.
Do you get less gains with really quick strikes when you're doing strike power training? I notice that fatigue gain is slower when my macro goes really fast
Yeah you're going to need that temporary muscle so you can get some big boy stamina. And if you're super short I recommend a speed style like Boxing, but ultimately you should pick what you're best with which comes with experience and experimenting.
hey bro, so i just started playing like 3 days ago, i got 20 tp, my friend is shorter than me in game and he is capoeira, im a little taller than him but im a bit smaller than the average person, he suggested for me to get taekwondo so i could benefit from the extra range it gives, you say tall people should use taekwondo, do u think its best for me to change it?
Hey man, is it possible to get over 10 tp a day? im currently a freshie but i usually get 10 tp a day off of stam as iam in the middle of my stam arc, so i was wondering if its possible to go over 10 tp a day, is there boosts that i can get or sum
For pretty much every lean style, your endgame stats are probably 3k sp and around 800-1000 ss. That doesn't need to be overnight though so work up to it
I’m at 2k stamina right now, but I heard that if u got a lot of runningspeed it will be hard to train stamina. Do you know how much runningspeed I could get to not slow down my stamina gain till 3k?
im at 140 upperbody muscle and 250 stamina should i keep training stamina or train more muscle because iam running out of stamina very quickly it also takes very long to regen stamina
idk what your lower is but if you'd follow the guide you'd know you're going to need 400 total muscle, so likely 200 upper and lower. Once you've got that you should comfortably be able to train to 1k stamina.
Does it help at all to have muscle when grinding RS. I'm just now getting off my stamina arc and I'm unsure if the muscle is helping or hurting my gains. I'm able to do a full tread while running still
the majority of it stands true except stamina and running speed training. you should just barely run out after each session on the treads. you can increase ur stamina drain with equipment, muscle, and fat in order to do so
If you have 100-1000 stam try to stay at around 400tm, if you're going for 1000-3000 go to 800tm, once you go from 3000 to max just bump up to 1500tm. You kinda just gotta use stat checkers often to keep track of muscle. For the most part you should just want to have barely enough stamina to finish the treadmill session in one go without stopping.
is it absolutely necessary for me to train allat muscle just to get 3000-4600 stam or can i just get like 400 total muscle and chill there for my whole stam arc
So it's been quite a while since I uploaded the video and I learned a lot more, I can safely say you should be good with 500 upper and 200 lower for stamina training
I personally am a dedicated Mika so I won't spin off but they do keep nerfing Mikas so either they will keep nerfing it and it'll be bad, in which case I'm gonna spin off it but it may be seeing a buff soon so I'm waiting for that
If you want to stay lean I'd chill out at like 311 TM but if you wanted to go over a little a safe place to stop is 390. Anything past that is pretty much muscle build territory.
Yeah you'll want to have high stats. General consensus is having higher stats is better, so I'd train like the guide says to. optimal stats are 3k SP, 700-1000 SS, Max Dura, Max Stamina, Muscle depends on what you prefer, RS is also pretty based on preference but 2k is really fast
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this is genuinely the best MO tutorial on youtube. couldnt have asked for anything better and i dont praise vids like this often. seriously good work and its obvious you genuinely wanna help people
I appreciate it man
@@ZenTheEdgy ofc man keep it up. you earned a sub. not a lot of good roblox content like this on yt
HONEY WAKE UP ZEN JUST UPLOADED ANOTHER AMAZING GUIDE
these guides honestly more helpful than any other, keep it up 👍 (next bw tourny when btw)
I'm waiting for either a good update or for me to get back into SO before I run another bw tourney
Back at it again with another in-depth guide time to step it up💪😤
i was so lost on how much muscle i needed for stamina arc thank you bro
Another W vid. Thanks for this I will now use both your first mighty omega guide and this for my grind. I hope to see you one day in game beat you up.
I'll look forward to it
beautiful tutorial bro
best TH-cam
I come back to this too often... maybe you could give a general framework for a good moveset(combo extenders, guard breaks, combo starters etc.). that could help with hybrid builds especially.
I didn't do that because builds change a lot with every update. It helps to watch other people and see what's currently meta
I think upper body muscle is the only one that helps. I got a 700/400 split and ever since I reached 1k stamina I've been gaining around 50 stamina every 65%. Before it was 70
what
3 months ago but still helpful.
THANK YOU MY DUDE
No problem
I follow all ur builds when I use them their pretty nice (I’m corrupted Mika btw)😊
yo this is heat
I got to 50 tp In 2 days thanks to you
Glad I could help
W vid brudda
800th subscriber 😎
I saw that, that's a very special spot in my sub list
Let's hope we hit 1k soon B)
@@ZenTheEdgy ✊
I'm the guy with blue hair who took pic wth u dude
oh btw now that im done with stam. You should do dura on weekends no matter which step you are on
13:19 what if you're eyes are naturally closed cause of the face features lol (like mine)
I think the effects will still appear on your eyes but they won't glow
Yo bro im using wrestling rn and wondering what moves i should get cuz suplex and shoulder bash are kinda mid now. (Cuz i think suplex doesn't take chain suplex off cd anymore and shoulder bash also got nerfed)Any reccomendations for other moves?
Brute force is pretty good
@ZenTheEdgy thanks
for some reason my strike power wont go up? every other stat seems to go up just fine but my strike power just wont move
Thanks bro cuz everyone in game is so stingy on not helping like all they say is search on yt
Well look at what searching on TH-cam did for you, I'm glad I could help
Jimmy Neutron says this video is HEAT fr
This comment had me brainblasting ngl
for total muscle, does that mean upper and lower combined? for example 400 total muscle thats 200 upper 200 lower?
yes
@@ZenTheEdgy thank you!
The muscle req for stamina stuff is wow... I thought I was good with 700/400
you might just need to use a breathing mask or vest
Thank you cuz I was starting to get lost
Do you have any recommendations for a razor edge boxing hybrid, as i didnt wanna go boxing style because the damage isnt great and i dont really like side kick that much
use Jaw Breaker as a stun instead of side kick and if you want some good boxing moves take Jab Rush and Gazelle Punch.
I don't know if you still play Mighty Omega but If I wanted to get 75 - 100 TP in a week, what would I use?
Like does the macros I use matter that much (Tinytask) or is there a better macro because Idk if I can get the paid access one. Also, what would I need to do to increase my gains multipliers?
I'm asking because some guy said he got 75 TP in a week from simply looking at this guide. I want to one up it and reach 80 - 100 TP from being a completely fresh noob. I still got my 3 Days Noob Protection too.
Right so you're going to want to get the Vivace macro, check out my Beginner's guide I talk about both Senya and Vivace in there. Going for muscle and stamina you'll get a lot of TP very quickly.
@@ZenTheEdgy Aight thanks for the Response.
@@UNLIMITED-DAN no problem
Any reccomendations for a Muay Thai for primary and wrestingling on the side build? Its a reinhold that will have 170 on both muscles
I think combining those two styles together is insane. With that being said, Roundhouse Kick, Flying Teep, Tiger Bite, Body Slam, Elbow Drop, Shoulder Bash. Last skill is from sumo but its very helpful.
Alrighty thank you! Sorry I didn't reply till now I was at a sleepover.
Just got the chance to get my first movie and I was checking your advice, how would I get Tiger Bite when it's a pure? If you don't reply it's fine since I can always find a replacement.
On a side note I have been working on 2 different accounts that are not this build. With one being Sanji with Capo and Taek and the other build being pure advanced. I just felt like updating this rq. Thanks for the feedback with the wrestling
@@jayinvictus3945 Get 3 abilities in muay, pick up tiger bite, get rid of one of the other abilities. Tiger Bite itself counts as a muay thai skill so the pure remains usable
i get boxing and i was so short, but i got yolotall and im tall now, idk what to do. (i already have side kick and jab rush)
i can buy skill reset
if you want to go full in on being tall I'd use taekwondo because being tall with taek is like playing the game on easy mode
@@ZenTheEdgy tysm 😃
what are the times that flow spawns bc on the trello it says every 3 hours but the discord says every hour
probably 3 hours
what do you mean by total muscle? like for example 400 upper and 400 lower = 800 total muscle? or do both need to be 800 muscle in order to get 3000 stam.
yes that is exactly how total muscle works
@@ZenTheEdgy which is it the first one or the second one coz now that i see this comment im confused
@@rjrayqal2544 first one
Do you get less gains with really quick strikes when you're doing strike power training? I notice that fatigue gain is slower when my macro goes really fast
nah it should make it faster
whats the best style for short ppl? also, would staying lean really hurt my ability to build up stamina because you need muscle for it?
Yeah you're going to need that temporary muscle so you can get some big boy stamina. And if you're super short I recommend a speed style like Boxing, but ultimately you should pick what you're best with which comes with experience and experimenting.
hey bro, so i just started playing like 3 days ago, i got 20 tp, my friend is shorter than me in game and he is capoeira, im a little taller than him but im a bit smaller than the average person, he suggested for me to get taekwondo so i could benefit from the extra range it gives, you say tall people should use taekwondo, do u think its best for me to change it?
if you want to maximize your range yeah
Hey man, is it possible to get over 10 tp a day? im currently a freshie but i usually get 10 tp a day off of stam as iam in the middle of my stam arc, so i was wondering if its possible to go over 10 tp a day, is there boosts that i can get or sum
if you follow the guides you can make decent progress in good time
Is there a difference beetween 3k stam and 3.5k because I'm planning to get 3.5k stam but dont know if it's worth it
zen do you still macro and all that or are you t a point where you are comfortable at your tp?
I do still macro, even rn I'm at tp 300 and I'm still going
@@ZenTheEdgy dang it im 43 tp >:(
@@ZenTheEdgy its taking me ages to get stronger and higher tps keep on ganking or robbin me :/
@@chillguy147 gotta join an org, get some strong friends, and follow the guides to get stronger faster
Hey great vid, around how many sp and ss you wanna have for kung fu?
For pretty much every lean style, your endgame stats are probably 3k sp and around 800-1000 ss. That doesn't need to be overnight though so work up to it
Yo man,i recently started im 30 tp.
I have 200 stamina and a total of like 150 muscle but i cant come close to doing a treadmill macro,how do i do it?
Watch my macro video, if you're having trouble with it ask questions about it in the kiyoko discord
I’m at 2k stamina right now, but I heard that if u got a lot of runningspeed it will be hard to train stamina. Do you know how much runningspeed I could get to not slow down my stamina gain till 3k?
I haven't heard of running speed slowing down stamina, train your running speed to your heart's content.
@@ZenTheEdgy it’s real the rs can make it harder because your draining stamina more
@@NBAFunTime you want more stam drain
im at 140 upperbody muscle and 250 stamina should i keep training stamina or train more muscle because iam running out of stamina very quickly it also takes very long to regen stamina
idk what your lower is but if you'd follow the guide you'd know you're going to need 400 total muscle, so likely 200 upper and lower. Once you've got that you should comfortably be able to train to 1k stamina.
Does it help at all to have muscle when grinding RS. I'm just now getting off my stamina arc and I'm unsure if the muscle is helping or hurting my gains. I'm able to do a full tread while running still
I've actually heard less muscle is better.
I have 550 upper and 950 stamina how much do I farm stamina until I stop and farm upper again
watch your stamina drain, I go over how that works better in the mastery guide.
Hey I’ve seen that guy before 😮
i have a question...is taekwondo good for short ppl or no? coz im using muay thai right now and im kinda interested in taekwondo
you'll have a lot more range but your damage and stun is going to be low.
@@ZenTheEdgy how bout kung fu? coz im also interested in kung fu...
@@rjrayqal2544 ultimately do what you want cause it's your build I'm just suggesting stuff
@@ZenTheEdgy i see ok ty for your answer
My height is pretty short, should I make new accounts to get a taller height?
Fat and muscle stacks, or is one or other? And what is the best clan for muscle build?
They stack, Jigoro for more Fat, Reinhold for more Muscle
@@ZenTheEdgy thanks, so, do both is the best choice? (And kure os a bad choice to a muscle build?)
@@simiosplayando9509 it depends on your preference. do what you want
Is the sumo build still the same? Or do you recommend any changes?
same build yeah, only sumo as a style got nerfed so wrestling looks a bit more appealing now for raw damage without fat
Ik the vid is 3months old but does the muay Thai build still the same?
You might want to replace Side Kick and Jolt Hook with a different combo extender and guardbreak
Is there anything you would change about this guide
the majority of it stands true except stamina and running speed training. you should just barely run out after each session on the treads. you can increase ur stamina drain with equipment, muscle, and fat in order to do so
what is stamina drain 3:30 and how do i get it up
stamina drain is the rate that your stamina goes down, if you put up your muscle and/or fat your stamina drain goes up
is there anyway to know if im getting too much muscle to quick or not having enough muscle to get stamina training benefits
If you have 100-1000 stam try to stay at around 400tm, if you're going for 1000-3000 go to 800tm, once you go from 3000 to max just bump up to 1500tm. You kinda just gotta use stat checkers often to keep track of muscle. For the most part you should just want to have barely enough stamina to finish the treadmill session in one go without stopping.
hey, im going for a muay thai build but i already have dragon claw (got it when i didnt know which build i would go for), which skills should i get?
Refer to the pure Muay Thai build portion of the video, replacing jolt for dragon claw
@@ZenTheEdgy TYYYYY :)
Hey dude from what fighting style does raging blow come from?
Not a fighting style, it's a clan exclusive move for Ohns. You can only get it from Trial of 200
@@ZenTheEdgy ah ok thanks
do we need a certain amount of striking speed to use limb weights ?
I'd get like 30
What would you recommend for counter skill edit
high window and low endlag
@@ZenTheEdgy that it nothing else should be change?
@@darren9694 I'd mess with it and see what works for you
@@ZenTheEdgy okay thanks
how much upper and lower body strength for a lean build should i have?
twin
what is a good build for raishin?
I made a good build for raishin in the moveset section of the video
about how much cash will it take to get to 1k from 3k? I have 1k tm and 1.5k stamina rn and wondering abt how much i need.
idk I wasn't keeping count but I had to do a lot of grinding to get the money for it
@@ZenTheEdgy alr thanks for answering fr
Hey what’s a good edit for jaw breaker?
do a power edit
100 tp for 1,5 month it’s good? (Sorry for my bad English)
yeah that is good
So do we need the muscle for it what if I have 0 muscle
You'll reach the softcap really quickly and have a horrible time training because you'll be spending additional time and money
@@ZenTheEdgy what’s the soft cap?
@@s4gesama895 I'm unsure what it is at 0 muscle but it's not high enough to get good stamina
When you say total meaning 400 for upper and lower?
Total means all of it added together. So 200 upper and 200 lower.
@@ZenTheEdgy thanks
Yow bro i play now a time long but i cant reroll my attipude do you know why?
Not enough mc maybe, if it's stuck I'd try to contact someone about fixing that bug
whats the most meta build u posted of these all which style/build
im 1.1x height as well. around 160 TP
and lean
hybrid abrawl
is it absolutely necessary for me to train allat muscle just to get 3000-4600 stam or can i just get like 400 total muscle and chill there for my whole stam arc
So it's been quite a while since I uploaded the video and I learned a lot more, I can safely say you should be good with 500 upper and 200 lower for stamina training
@@ZenTheEdgy do you think your mika build is still viable or its kinda rusty (6:40)
@@efloss The dragon claw isn't usable anymore but the other moves are pretty solid
@@ZenTheEdgy what would u replace it with
@@efloss jaw breaker
Should I spin off mika for Kure because everyone is saying it’s not good even ssj ghost woo is gonna spin off mika.
I personally am a dedicated Mika so I won't spin off but they do keep nerfing Mikas so either they will keep nerfing it and it'll be bad, in which case I'm gonna spin off it but it may be seeing a buff soon so I'm waiting for that
@@ZenTheEdgy alr I’ll wait then
should i upgrade tiger bite the same as you would lion bite ?
I'm not sure cause I've never used muay thai but I'd just use a power build
edit for weave or general counters?
I'm not good with counters generally but you want to have good frame windows and low endlag
@@ZenTheEdgy its fine ty
would you still recommend side kick after the range and stun nerf?
I've been using it recently, still feels pretty good. I'd say it's not meta anymore but it's still a good choice to have.
how much strike power should i have for an end game raishin build?
I'd go for 3000
@@ZenTheEdgy thanks
should i do runspeed before i get a ton of muscle? idk if muscle slows my progress for runspeed
yeah I'd do stamina before running speed and then get a bunch of muscle if you're doing a muscle build
Yo guys, im new to the game and I want to make a lean build, how much should I grind for stamina and other stats?
Anyways, nice guide man.
start with stam and then branch out but go for at least 3k stam
thanks
What is the font on thumb and video fr fr
royal fighter
What moves would be good for a lean short Kure I already have all Kure skills
Side Kick, Gazelle Punch, and Spin Kick or Roundhouse Kick
@@ZenTheEdgy thank ye m’lord I might be one of the shortest players btw never seen anyone shorter lol
@@4monkeys958 being short is real
Do i need light vest and limb weights for stamina?
Wear no equipment but when your stam gets real high you start to benefit from light vest. I'm talking like 2.5k stam
whats a good move set for kung fuu?
Monkey Counter, Tiger Hunt, Snake Bite, Crane Stance, Leaping Monkey, Jaw Breaker
how do i run on the spot so i can do sp without moving around
The macro will do it for you but you can run in place by holding s and double tapping w and then holding w immediately after
Is advance brawl build still good for me I got the shortest height in game😭😭
they nerfed stun but damage is still good
Yo zen I got about like 450 total muscle as an ohn should i maybe slim down a bit or stay around there
If you want to stay lean I'd chill out at like 311 TM but if you wanted to go over a little a safe place to stop is 390. Anything past that is pretty much muscle build territory.
when you say 1250 total you mean that amount for both?
total means cumulative
Can you do a guide about losing muscle quickly?
I briefly mentioned it in the video. Use a fat loss macro overnight in an apartment.
is total muscle just your upper and lower body?
Yep Total Muscle is Upper and Lower added together.
How to get those chains on your hands?
Arm Chains are a $8000 accessory you can get in the accessory shop sometimes
Can you give a hybrid capo kure build?
leaping monkey, around the world, gazelle punch, lion bite, elbow cut, and eye slice
shortish boxing ohn good any stat suggestions?
Yeah you'll want to have high stats. General consensus is having higher stats is better, so I'd train like the guide says to.
optimal stats are 3k SP, 700-1000 SS, Max Dura, Max Stamina, Muscle depends on what you prefer, RS is also pretty based on preference but 2k is really fast
can you tell the edit of taek build?
If you're referring to the moveset, it's in there for Pure Taek Build and if you're asking about the skill edits refer to the skill edit section.
@@ZenTheEdgy oh ok, can i ask for the combo of pure taek combo? (i'm new so i want many information
as possible)
@@13.ngothanhloc24 combos kinda depends on what you're capable of doing with speed and dashes so you'll have to figure that out on your own
Damn now i'm have some motivation to grind now
Is fat proven to get you more stamina gains or is it a assumption?
It was in the info discord so I'm assuming there was some actual testing behind it. It's completely optional though
Muscle increases the gains from pressing the buttons on treads. Fat gives you more gains from the running in place part
@@noodlepancak783 no I believe fat just increases the stamina softcap
how do i check total muscle?
Add up your upper and lower muscle together
Do you still need it for build now that Dragon Claw has gotten worse?
Dragon Claw is no longer usable, substitute it with Gazelle Punch or whatever safe moves you enjoy using. Also replace Side Kick with Leaping Monkey
@@ZenTheEdgy Is leaping monkey better than side kick?
@@swallow0422 for non-karate builds, yes
@@ZenTheEdgy should i put the Side Kick edit on Leaping Monkey, or just use the damage edit?
@@thefakeminty1076 I personally use the side kick edit
So at 200 Stamina should I get to 400 tm and go to 1k the go back down (lean build)
You could but I would go into it even further and get more TM and stamina after hitting 1k
what is a good move set for Kure?
Elbow Cut, Lion Bite, Jab Rush, Leaping Monkey, Jaw Breaker, Supreme Fang
How to edit monkey counter
high window
What’s a good boxing build if I’m ohn and short
Pure Boxing Build with Raging Blow
Is total muscle,upper and lower muscle?
Total muscle is upper and lower added together, yes
is the muay thai build the same or nah ?
definitely don't use Dragon Claw anymore but muay thai build should be pretty similar
what was your ss?
at the time of this video probably 800-1000
good build for short Kure?
Pure Kure Build in the video