You can really tell that the mtgo drafters are not at the level of the discord server drafters. The discord drafters never allow LSV to open this much power
LSV would be such a good teacher. The constant articulation behind thought processes and evaluation weather or not he made the right choices/plays is such a helpful tool.
Absolutely, even with my ADHD I can follow him so well and the constant but concise articulation makes it easy for me to follow and stay engaged. He's one of few content creators I can actually engage with for lengthy periods of time.
It's always nice to see Gavin's cube get some sunshine on MTGO, but it's surprising how much the quality of gameplay drops without various Pro Tour and World Champion players across the table. This deck likely would have crushed a custom lobby too, just heightens my appreciation for the awesome level of competition in the other videos.
Right? It gets easy to be accustomed to the Discord server drafts as just normal gameplay until you see these and realize just how strong the competition is in those team drafts.
I drafted this cube yesterday, and it honestly felt like the other drafters were auto-picking. The wheels made no sense, and I got a 3rd pick Time Walk in pack three. Baffling... Is WotC using bots?
Just wanted to say that I love the way you do your videos. I have them on in the background while I am at work and I can completely follow along with what's going on because of how well you describe each scenario. Also, this deck was insanely sweet. Keep up the great work!
This deck was so busted, and one of the best parts about the thumbnail is that you had no idea what kind of deck it was going to be, just that it was going to have Lotus and double Mox.
Wow, what a beautiful and well managed deck... and the 12 or so combos it had, with the resources to actually make those combos have some teeth behind them, along with the well navigated and full of enjoyment to do so LSV!
I actually think it is a precise statement about the inference that luis can typically make based on the information available. The way I understand it is as follows: there are almost no drafts where he would rule out the candelabra wheeling. Often, if you saw some cards being picked early and not wheeling, you can bet that some other card you are seeing now will not wheel either, because the same player will very likely take it. There are conditions under which the second card never wheels. Otoh, the way I understand it, even when Luis suspects that someone is playing artefact or another candelabra adjacent archetype at the table, he still regularly sees the candelabra wheeling, probably because other drafters don’t value the card highly even in the archetypes where it’s good.
@@Gudnarr I feel that in part, it's because LSV never passes Tolarian Academy, the single best card with Candelabra. That makes Candelabra more likely to wheel for LSV than for other drafters that value TA slightly lower (perhaps incorrectly!)
At 48:20 I'm surprised LSV didn't go for it. Play Lotus, sac for GGG. Regrow Lotus, play Lotus, sac for WWW. Play Salvagers paying WUUG. Salvagers back the Lotus using the remaining WW, get infinite mana, play Jar, Twister, etc. The opponent _did_ have 5 mana including both U and B available, so maybe that play is risky, and he was able to hold up Drain and Remand _(in an emergency since he'd have to sac Lotus for it, but it was technically available)_ so maybe that's better, but after he talked about the Regrow Lotus play I thought he'd go for it.
Time Twister (and its progeny) making the case to be the goat. Last night on the Alpha Frog cube I won a game 3 because I went turn 1 Currency Converter, crack LED, cast Echo of Eons, and left my opponent landless while I kept churning out 2/2s from the converter.
Based on the title, and his attitude, I feel like LSV forgot about Timetwister when naming this. It could’ve been something along the lines of “Power Level: 4/9”
48:30 Could crack Lotus for green, Regrowth Lotus with G floating, replay Lotus, crack Lotus for white, cast Salvagers, make infinite mana and Timetwister right? Wonder if he missed that or was just playing conservatively
Black lotus is usually a little underwhelming (relative to its hype) when I see it in drafts. This is definitely the most I’ve ever seen it do very cool
34:26 what are you doing where you can single click to "click three" on spending the mana for the infinite combo? I'm curious after losing a game to time because I was no inept at the clicking (and a superwide monitor didn't help).
How convenient that this absolutely busted deck didn’t run into a single counterspell, just the weird Reprieve play off Lotus Petal. Counters were the only chance against this monstrous deck.
48:17 you also had infinite mana if you wanted. Lotus for green, regrowth lotus, lotus for white, play salvager wwgu, you have lotus in the yard with wu open to activate salvagers. But I guess there is an arguement for giving your opponent one more turn in favor of having countermagic up yourself.
That first round opponent was exactly what Vintage cube experience is about: Terrible players with incredible decks. Takes a bit of finesse to mess things up as badly as they did G2.
I absolutely get why he does it and don’t want it to change, but any good ideas on how to start the video without spoilers in the title or the picture?
You can really tell that the mtgo drafters are not at the level of the discord server drafters. The discord drafters never allow LSV to open this much power
I was thinking something along the lines of how unfortunate that he didn’t get to stomp on all the great players with this deck
LSV would be such a good teacher. The constant articulation behind thought processes and evaluation weather or not he made the right choices/plays is such a helpful tool.
Absolutely, even with my ADHD I can follow him so well and the constant but concise articulation makes it easy for me to follow and stay engaged. He's one of few content creators I can actually engage with for lengthy periods of time.
It’s what he’s doing here. Don’t have to work in schools to be a teacher 👍🏼
fr, I wish he taught me languages.
@@jonathanrfisher Here and on Limited Ressources. 👍
I learned how to be a college professor from watching LSV
It's always nice to see Gavin's cube get some sunshine on MTGO, but it's surprising how much the quality of gameplay drops without various Pro Tour and World Champion players across the table. This deck likely would have crushed a custom lobby too, just heightens my appreciation for the awesome level of competition in the other videos.
Right? It gets easy to be accustomed to the Discord server drafts as just normal gameplay until you see these and realize just how strong the competition is in those team drafts.
I drafted this cube yesterday, and it honestly felt like the other drafters were auto-picking. The wheels made no sense, and I got a 3rd pick Time Walk in pack three. Baffling... Is WotC using bots?
Just wanted to say that I love the way you do your videos. I have them on in the background while I am at work and I can completely follow along with what's going on because of how well you describe each scenario. Also, this deck was insanely sweet. Keep up the great work!
This deck was so busted, and one of the best parts about the thumbnail is that you had no idea what kind of deck it was going to be, just that it was going to have Lotus and double Mox.
This was absolutely amazing. Rival's LSV's 18 turn 3--0 speed run from a few months back.
do you happen to remember which one that was? I don't recall one going *that* fast this year but would love to see it if I haven't already!
Yeah link it if you remember
@@jrjamesson th-cam.com/video/ZO3LYPVcZUI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aY0c8s7iub60-Bfi
@@kobyhaigerty3157 th-cam.com/video/ZO3LYPVcZUI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aY0c8s7iub60-Bfi
@@jrjamesson it was aptly called "It Actually Doesn't Get More Busted Than This" and was posted on august 30th 5 months ago. Enjoy ;)
LSV over here collecting power like they're Infinity Stones.
I BELIEVE he actually owns them irl.
And games are so easy feels like he barely has to snap to win
All the complaining about never opening power is paying off, on a roll lately
LSVanos
Wow, what a beautiful and well managed deck... and the 12 or so combos it had, with the resources to actually make those combos have some teeth behind them, along with the well navigated and full of enjoyment to do so LSV!
Candelabra “almost always has a possibility of wheeling” most vague statement
I actually think it is a precise statement about the inference that luis can typically make based on the information available. The way I understand it is as follows: there are almost no drafts where he would rule out the candelabra wheeling. Often, if you saw some cards being picked early and not wheeling, you can bet that some other card you are seeing now will not wheel either, because the same player will very likely take it. There are conditions under which the second card never wheels. Otoh, the way I understand it, even when Luis suspects that someone is playing artefact or another candelabra adjacent archetype at the table, he still regularly sees the candelabra wheeling, probably because other drafters don’t value the card highly even in the archetypes where it’s good.
@@Gudnarr I feel that in part, it's because LSV never passes Tolarian Academy, the single best card with Candelabra. That makes Candelabra more likely to wheel for LSV than for other drafters that value TA slightly lower (perhaps incorrectly!)
4 Power 9 pieces, LED, Mana Drain, Atroxa, Emrakul... sprinkle in a few infinite combos and call it a day.
that snap concede last game was just picture perfekt! Wp
This has to be a record for most accessible infinite combos in an LSV deck
Would have loved to see more of this deck, but the problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness...
At 48:20 I'm surprised LSV didn't go for it.
Play Lotus, sac for GGG.
Regrow Lotus, play Lotus, sac for WWW.
Play Salvagers paying WUUG.
Salvagers back the Lotus using the remaining WW, get infinite mana, play Jar, Twister, etc.
The opponent _did_ have 5 mana including both U and B available, so maybe that play is risky, and he was able to hold up Drain and Remand _(in an emergency since he'd have to sac Lotus for it, but it was technically available)_ so maybe that's better, but after he talked about the Regrow Lotus play I thought he'd go for it.
That instant concession at the end was hilarious. What an absurd deck
Time Twister (and its progeny) making the case to be the goat. Last night on the Alpha Frog cube I won a game 3 because I went turn 1 Currency Converter, crack LED, cast Echo of Eons, and left my opponent landless while I kept churning out 2/2s from the converter.
36:18 I’m sitting here almost having a heart attack when you were about to crack Memory Jar before LED. 😂
Watching someone as seasoned as LSV get tongue tied out of excitement over match 1 is a win.
Based on the title, and his attitude, I feel like LSV forgot about Timetwister when naming this. It could’ve been something along the lines of “Power Level: 4/9”
This video was literally a lesson on vintage cube!
I have been loving the cube content lately and this might be one of the coolest decks you have drafted.
You have to commend the last opponent on their fantastic reaction time. That concession was rapid!
Props to m3 opponent for the microsecond precision on that concede 😂
deck was insane, loved how all the combos came together.
All the team drafts were like training with weights on, this didn't even look fair. Fun to see LSV destroying the MTGO cube.
48:30 Could crack Lotus for green, Regrowth Lotus with G floating, replay Lotus, crack Lotus for white, cast Salvagers, make infinite mana and Timetwister right? Wonder if he missed that or was just playing conservatively
Noticed the same thing. He might have been fixated on Regrowth getting back Atraxa and missed it.
that first match was so sick. awesome deck!
Black lotus is usually a little underwhelming (relative to its hype) when I see it in drafts. This is definitely the most I’ve ever seen it do very cool
This Black Lotus card seems pretty good
34:26 what are you doing where you can single click to "click three" on spending the mana for the infinite combo? I'm curious after losing a game to time because I was no inept at the clicking (and a superwide monitor didn't help).
zirda makes it only cost 1 to untap. am i misunderstanding the question/which part of the combo you’re talking about?
What an obscene deck. Well played !
hands down your best cube deck ever
Congrats I think that's the most absurd deck I've seen he drafted
As a Tupperware fan, I am simply here to say triples is best. Love the videos LSV!
Probably the sickest deck you've drafted this entire year
Got to love 4 pieces of power! what a great draft
God this was great to watch. Just living the dream!!!!
LSV: "Atraxa is very cartable"
Also LSV, in my favorite video: *Gifts Ungiven, fetches basic Plains to cast Atraxa*
How convenient that this absolutely busted deck didn’t run into a single counterspell, just the weird Reprieve play off Lotus Petal. Counters were the only chance against this monstrous deck.
That was definitely a draft. Was one of the more fun decks I've seen.
48:17 you also had infinite mana if you wanted. Lotus for green, regrowth lotus, lotus for white, play salvager wwgu, you have lotus in the yard with wu open to activate salvagers. But I guess there is an arguement for giving your opponent one more turn in favor of having countermagic up yourself.
Great deck to watch the games
I have watched every vintage cube draft you have uploaded... this is my favorite in terms of fun (even though we didn't pick academy)
Incredible whiplash from lsv playing bad opponents for once.
Maybe not bad since worse than the server is such a high bar
That first round opponent was exactly what Vintage cube experience is about: Terrible players with incredible decks. Takes a bit of finesse to mess things up as badly as they did G2.
LSV the Emeril of magic kicking it up a notch.
wow you finally drafted my favorite archetype
we love you lsv!! happy holidays. p.s been getting my ass whopped in mtgo trying to copy your decks lol i guess i need to watch more of your videos
Same lol! Going 1-2 but having at least a couple games where I feel like LSV is worth it 😂
36:31 I love you lsv please don’t change
Love to see it!
Game 2 was the nastiest thing you've done in a minute
This deck was a work of art
Is it fair to say it looks like a vintage deck vs draft decks? Lol powerful vid this time LSV ty for this treat of a deck!!!
Timetwister in its glow up era.
This deck is a piece of art
Opens Lotus and still finds a way to complain. LSV is the 🐐
This deck was absurd
crushing souls, one infinite combo at a time
Luis really losing out on complaint equity with the last couple drafts
Absolutely Swegh (Sick/Sweet) deck. All that complaining about not opening power finally paid off!
good lord that was filthy
One of the most busted cube decks ever. Love it!
Original artwork in the thumbnail is back! Feels so good
36:21 what was this game??? Love it
Luis is an atom bomb and the entirety of the MTGO player base is the coughing baby.
4 power + Library. Sucks you didn't get the Sol Ring...😂
i love emrakul. nice build!!!
Gzz, Luis! 😅
:O sub 1 hour! Was this the 6-0 Speedrun? Excited to watch! Thanks for the daily uploads!
Now THIS is a deck
6 packs two black lotus’s, madness
So much Power, he forgets about the 4th!
That was indeed sweek ™️
I liked how you defend timetwister as part of the power 9, then only say you have 'triple' in the title.
What a sweek deck
What a banger of a deck.
0:31 LSV saying how Timetwister is a real piece of Power in cube
vs
the title of this video that doesn't include it as a piece of power
I can't believe they took Atraxa over big mama with the bribery
I like where in the video you drafted the mtg cards
That was indeed pretty "swick" 36:30
deck was insane
Lorien revealedable is my new favourite word
Sick video!
Guess can't complain about never drafting power, but CAN complain about missing academy!
Wow so much complaint equity, Lotus and Academy in the same pack
I love these videos so so much!
insane
Lol "infinite mana doesn't do much for me"
Has kinnan in board.... 😂😂
We only mentioned academy 6 times this draft and it was even in the packs, that's showing a lot of restraint really.
Artistry
This deck seemed pretty good to me
I stand corrected. Maybe this is a nice break from team draft since the decks seem completely broken...
We’re early today boyysssss. These make my day, every day :)
You even talked about how time twister is power but still don't count it lol
40:40 I think you can actually go faster, with T1 Salvagers, followed by T2 Prism to generate white mana and go off
Sweet deck
A tenth of the deck is power 9? Sheeesh….
When you're sitting next to LSV and he passes you Academy...
I shouldn’t have bought futures in LSV’s complaint equity
I absolutely get why he does it and don’t want it to change, but any good ideas on how to start the video without spoilers in the title or the picture?
I just kind of open the TH-cam app and immediately click the video. YMMV.
Triple dip watch ❤