I loved my Pro Flo XT. It cleared the stock hood on my 2010 Camaro and I could mod my passenger wiper to clear the back. I'd argue that it may pick a few up by opening the plenum up to the bigger TB size like I did mine.
Hey Richard, you should grab Brian's data on his LS3 Block w/ GenV Heads swap project, as he doesn't really go into detail, as you would, other than the broad strokes of the final data. It's pretty impressive what an LT1/L86 Head can do on an LS3 (with a matching camshaft ofcourse, for the change in valvetrain/valve locations).
GREAT VIDEO RICHARD!!! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!!!! ALL THREE ARE GREAT INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR ANY APPLICATION. I LOVE YOUR LS 427 MOTOR!!!! THAT IS SO BADASS!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING. I LEARNED SO MUCH.
Cool feature with Hi-ram is Nos sandwich plate, or the water to air sandwich coolers for boost, or different lids. The Pro Flo dont support that. I did went with the Pro Flo anyway.
In all the manifolds you've done for the rec port heads, I haven't seen any from LoKar's LS Classic line. I have an LS 427 from Blueprint that's going into a 59 Vette replica. It would be nice to change out the LS3 manifold to make the engine compartment look better. From what I see with their manifolds, it looks like I could expect similar results.
Thank you for bringing these to my attention! I didn't know they existed till now. It would look beautiful in my upcoming build. I would like to see some test ran on these.
I'd love to see this setup run again using truck cams, like the Truck Norris SS2 & Stage 4 cams, along with those 2 intake manifold, TBSS & the LSXR/T. Some of us wouldn't mind having a big ci engine in our truck or SUV. Ever think about running newer LT heads on the LQ4/LS3 engines?
The average POWER during the RPM range you use between shifts will determine your acceleration. Being able to tailor your RPM range usage is part of why people like manual transmissions, or an automatic they can shift manually. By shifting from later in the RPM band, you can keep the power higher for the higher-RPM power motor. But, really, the vast majority of your driving is not doing that. Even the racing team of Porsche did that with the famous "Panzer" flat 12 motor, using a broad, flat torque curve instead of a peakier curve that resulted in 400 more top-end horsepower. (twin turbos.)
They absolutely do. But if the injector offset table is populated properly (and it looks like the tuner did his job here) then AFR shouldn't change with voltage.
This is still you going negative without accurate info-All you saw was the air hose moving during the run. We ran the motor with a radiused entry and the door open to ensure the same air temp-no difference in power with and without the hose. But by all means try to find something wrong in all the right!
Richard had question on my gen 3 L33 HO aluminum block ft forged pro Ls piston 2cc with valve reliefs pro Ls stage 4 can 240° / 252° 579'/579' 106 LSA Pro LS H beam rods with ARP 7/16 " pro series bolts heads milled .0010PRC STAGE 2.6 CNC PORTED COMETUC .0040 GASKETS WITH ARP head studs comp cam trunion with cm push rods summit under drive balancer Holley High Ram with 102Mm TB and 36 lb fast injectors Walboro 255 pump drop in 3500 circle D 410 gears king tube headers and 3 " exhaust just wondering if this will work well and what type of hp will cam work with combination thank you
No problem Richard I'll check it out but hey Richard so what will a 240 + 50,000 intake 252 exhaust at 50,000 106 lobe separation on the l33 with 580 lift on the cam intake and exhaust will it work I'm using the PRC heads their meal .0040 thousands on the cometic head gaskets I was just wondering on the load separation LSA will it sound like real radical or what what it what's going to happen is the stage for have you ever done the tests on that can stage 4 Summit cam pro LS 240 252 106 LSA 580' 580'
Right not currently my truck has a 4.8 I know you love those so do I say rev but it's knocking already so I need to replace it with this engine it's already done
I loved my Pro Flo XT. It cleared the stock hood on my 2010 Camaro and I could mod my passenger wiper to clear the back. I'd argue that it may pick a few up by opening the plenum up to the bigger TB size like I did mine.
Amazing how those manifolds practically overlap despite having some pretty major looking differences.
Hey Richard, you should grab Brian's data on his LS3 Block w/ GenV Heads swap project, as he doesn't really go into detail, as you would, other than the broad strokes of the final data. It's pretty impressive what an LT1/L86 Head can do on an LS3 (with a matching camshaft ofcourse, for the change in valvetrain/valve locations).
I thought he did an L83
@@richardholdener1727 I honestly can't remember now...all I know is that it was a GenIV engine with a GenV head swap....
GREAT VIDEO RICHARD!!! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!!!! ALL THREE ARE GREAT INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR ANY APPLICATION. I LOVE YOUR LS 427 MOTOR!!!! THAT IS SO BADASS!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING. I LEARNED SO MUCH.
I like to call the Holley Hi-Ram the "Snuffleupagus" intake. 😎
We are old
The only downside to the ProFlo is it does not come apart for porting, it costs less than a Holley HiRam.
Awesome data! Was looking forward to this.
Cool feature with Hi-ram is Nos sandwich plate, or the water to air sandwich coolers for boost, or different lids. The Pro Flo dont support that. I did went with the Pro Flo anyway.
good point
@@richardholdener1727 Was this test done with 90mm tb on pro flo and 102 on hi-ram? Do you think the PF could gain from a 102 tb?
In all the manifolds you've done for the rec port heads, I haven't seen any from LoKar's LS Classic line.
I have an LS 427 from Blueprint that's going into a 59 Vette replica. It would be nice to change out the LS3 manifold to make the engine compartment look better.
From what I see with their manifolds, it looks like I could expect similar results.
Thank you for bringing these to my attention! I didn't know they existed till now. It would look beautiful in my upcoming build.
I would like to see some test ran on these.
those would be cool-Westech had one on a motor for a customer-but did not compare to anything else
Oh and I'm that guy running a stroker with a 243* intake duration cam with a Pro Flo XT lol. Th400 swap 8" stall and 4.10s every day driver .....
You need to go with a shorter runner intake on that thing. A sniper or L.O.D. all that cam is gonna want to run to 8k rpm or more.
BTR up next
Hard to say when tunnel rams run up top with longish runners
I'd love to see this setup run again using truck cams, like the Truck Norris SS2 & Stage 4 cams, along with those 2 intake manifold, TBSS & the LSXR/T. Some of us wouldn't mind having a big ci engine in our truck or SUV.
Ever think about running newer LT heads on the LQ4/LS3 engines?
they did that
@richardholdener1727 I must have missed that one. Is there a link for that video? I'm really interested in something like that for myself.
Thank you well done
Hey Richard you should give 454chuy ported mani’s and tb’s a try. I think you would be impressed with the results
what is 454chuy?
@@richardholdener1727he does porting on any manifolds and throttle bodies. Show the difference between a stock ls3 manifold and a ported ls3 manifold
Great testing. Any chance there's a edelbrock crossram in the pool?
He did the crossram in his intake shootout. Did really good
Any tests on the BTR Equalizer? It seems to be the hot new thing on the block, at a decent price too.
that is up next
@@richardholdener1727adding the BTR Trinity would be amazing too!
I’m doing one with a 14.5:1 huge cam LS7, with a 112mm throttle body. Should be nasty
we did
Nice mate
You should test if proflo benefits opening up for 103mm throttle body
Any chance you could do the Big Bang nitrous LS again.
Richard was all outta hands 😂
Great review! I still wonder, wouldn't better average torque equal to better acceleration, if we eliminate issues such as tire slipping and such?
The average POWER during the RPM range you use between shifts will determine your acceleration.
Being able to tailor your RPM range usage is part of why people like manual transmissions, or an automatic they can shift manually. By shifting from later in the RPM band, you can keep the power higher for the higher-RPM power motor.
But, really, the vast majority of your driving is not doing that. Even the racing team of Porsche did that with the famous "Panzer" flat 12 motor, using a broad, flat torque curve instead of a peakier curve that resulted in 400 more top-end horsepower. (twin turbos.)
I wish you would do an intake test like on the hemi platform
me too
Of course it needs turbos 😁
Low voltage can effect injector behavior. So curious how the AFR’s were on the proflow compared to the other runs.
same
They absolutely do. But if the injector offset table is populated properly (and it looks like the tuner did his job here) then AFR shouldn't change with voltage.
also there was no low voltage while running
Weber DCOE are the best
How come no BTR Equalizer?
next up
will the Edelbrock intake work on a 6.0 or 408 with a cam duration of 233/250 and stock 823s? and its a street/strip setup
yes-but still loses power through much of the curve compared to a stock LS3 intake
@@richardholdener1727 ok thanks, I have a Gen 4 truck intake my bmotor is a (LY6) I’m going to use probably a 3600 stall with my 4l80
Damn, did Rich just say there was a wrong cam? :) J/K Rich.
THERE IS ALWAYS A WRONG CAM
🥝✔️
What was the compression ratio ?
12.5
Why didn’t you run the BTR intake manifold?
coming next
You say butter I say parkay !
Edelbrock intake is nice cause made in usa. Holley makes their crap in china
Dyno cell needs a new intake air filter..........
With all the good in this video-you seek out and try to find something (inaccurately) bad?
@@richardholdener1727 Oh come on look at that 10" hose try to suck it self shut?
This is still you going negative without accurate info-All you saw was the air hose moving during the run. We ran the motor with a radiused entry and the door open to ensure the same air temp-no difference in power with and without the hose. But by all means try to find something wrong in all the right!
More dynoie goodness
You have a nitrous cam in it. Now spray it
EVER CAM IS A NITROUS CAM
Everyone checking to see if the proflow is cheaper than the hiram. Lol
Why can't they have longer, much wider runners and have the plenum underneath?
An LS3/Hemi intake on steroids!
intakes have been done like that
Richard had question on my gen 3 L33 HO aluminum block ft forged pro Ls piston 2cc with valve reliefs pro Ls stage 4 can 240° / 252° 579'/579' 106 LSA Pro LS H beam rods with ARP 7/16 " pro series bolts heads milled .0010PRC STAGE 2.6 CNC PORTED COMETUC .0040 GASKETS WITH ARP head studs comp cam trunion with cm push rods summit under drive balancer Holley High Ram with 102Mm TB and 36 lb fast injectors Walboro 255 pump drop in 3500 circle D 410 gears king tube headers and 3 " exhaust just wondering if this will work well and what type of hp will cam work with combination thank you
could be at or over 500 flywheel hp
@@richardholdener1727 thank you Richard make video on L33
I have lots of vids on L33
No problem Richard I'll check it out but hey Richard so what will a 240 + 50,000 intake 252 exhaust at 50,000 106 lobe separation on the l33 with 580 lift on the cam intake and exhaust will it work I'm using the PRC heads their meal .0040 thousands on the cometic head gaskets I was just wondering on the load separation LSA will it sound like real radical or what what it what's going to happen is the stage for have you ever done the tests on that can stage 4 Summit cam pro LS 240 252 106 LSA 580' 580'
Right not currently my truck has a 4.8 I know you love those so do I say rev but it's knocking already so I need to replace it with this engine it's already done
Hey hey hey