Hope your summer is going well, here is the 7.5 Tier List! Leave your own ranking below Edit: this is a general pvp ranking both for 1v1 and group, but I tend to consider 1v1 more
Just when I was looking for a tier list xD I started playing cleric and I like it but farming inggison mobs for titan coins for gear and is such a pain to do damage even with Sacr Power x.c
You guys argue in comment section about specific scenarios. The list is made as a general aspect. Some classes are higher than they are in this list for sure.
i believe you have to specify what these tierlists refer to in general, for example in 1v1/solo pvp assassin has been SS for about 2 patches and keeps on getting buffed, yet in group only shines bright in this patch/ends of the previous patch... meanwhile AT has been top grp pvp class since about 6.2 with certain ups and downs, and just recently got such a crazy buff with the blue dp that fighting a group with an AT when you haven't got one is completely unfair, same as painter because of the 30%, yet in arenas these classes are nowhere near SS at least, same as assassin isn't SS in group, there is absolutely no way we can put a bard on S rank in 1v1 arenas right now though, even in group.. so what exactly are the criteria of the tier list?
with which player base did you get a list like that? Sorc has the biggest current burst, Cleric is immortal, AT defense and incredible damage, Glad and templar complete with gems, who made this list should not do pvp and I forgot to say about SW, with 1 sleep it gets full HP, always with strong damage with reduced cd cleave...
Not really, sorc is still a joke according to everyone... but slightly better than before. I think you pretty much stated the same as I did for other points, maybe not AT, but I said everything you listed about all the other classes.
3/4 people play sorc are trash , sorc is amazing class. Just not a class you can tank and spank. Sorc probably take more talent than painter using one vision skill and do 80k dmg...
@@MechEagle Funny how another non sorc says that. You play an AT, aka a templar+sorc in one class. please, play a sorc and teach us. The reason sorcs suck at pvp is because the class is way to tricky to do the right thing with the right timing, which itself makes it a stupid class. Why bother playing a class that requires special training to do basic pvp when your AT is a class that auto-plays and wins?
Secondo me dovresti fare un tier list per 1v1 e il Group pvp, diciamo che molte cose possono fraintendere molto facilmente (visto che 1v1 e il pvp di gruppo è molto diverso)
sm top s tier list.... xD okai. i think this is more of a gladiator prospective kinda of list. where s tiers are your anti, lower tiers are the classes you win easily now and ss is a class you used to win easily but that got buffed a lot, especially against buffs like ud.
i did follow your reasons. sm's cover in ulti form is as fast as any other class's cover. sm gets a good boost from gold stigmas, as any other class, but i don't believe its worth a special mention since sm's main burst is from daevanions plus 1 stigma and, now, odian. speaking of fears, with insta fear sm is gonna win against most of the classes, but without insta fear sm fears are not that broken. heres why: the short cast fear(improved) lasts 5 seconds which is not enough to kill many classes, which results in having to cast another 2 seconds fear, during the fear lock, you can use a defensive buff/ripple/heal which will mean probably the sm will not kill you; the long cast fear has been nerfed even more with 7.5, now it will not go through evades/grendal, the long cast really makes it easy to counter many physical classes just by trying to stop the cast/knock back with a bow or kd/poison/stop the cast if the sm stands too close. the long cast makes you sure to kill most of opponents but makes your survivability drop by a lot since if the opponent evades/kites/silence/cc you at the same time as your silence you will be left with nothing but instafear if its up(4min cd). i think its a bit silly to say sm has an advantage in a patch where everyone has insane burst, since most of the classes burst you down in 4-5 seconds meanwhile sm needs 10-14 of silence+fear/s. cc runes dont really help sm in 1v1 since most of the resist buffs you wanna counter give 1000 resist, you would need a really high+ rune and sm is not a class that can afford to waste silence/fears on 50% or lower chances; the only difference is against bard's fear resist, but on the other hand, bard counters sm so hard that it doesnt even need that. sm gets countered by sin, gunner, cleric, bard, painter and ranger very easily. speaking of sm in group is a strong class but: giving clerics, that were able to ripple fears already/counter them by going duo cleric and staying far away from eachother, an additional remove shock for fears, giving to chanter a dispell for fears, taking away the passing through evades of the long cast fear( sm is the first focused class, every class with half brain cell and an evade will use it as soon as he sees the sm cast the long fear) really nerfed the class. i do think sm is a strong class but not as op as many people seem to believe and definitely not stronger than gunners/clers/bards/painters ps: i loved the "we dont have enough defences to survive fears" while a clip of a painter surviving 1 silence and 3 fears was being displayed... xD
Your first half of the comment is based on pure rng. I can see your point about group pvp. The Painter survives only once in 5m - 10m against shorter cds, I would not call it a win... Anyway the sm has an incredibly easy and effective coversilence into fear rotation with additional bursts, it is probably among the most linear classes of the patch. Would not place it any lower than where I did.
@@Nukedw nothing about sm is rng anymore, silence is 5 seconds all the time, the pure rng about fear is that it lasts either 5 seconds or 5.5 seconds for sorrow/7 or 7.5 got curse....i dont think thats game changing/pure rng. about the painter, sure he had colour on, but no wise dragon/lunaris and he survived to more than 20 sec of burst, he could have also used 65% less dmg between the fears, but it was just a funny note tho, painter wins sm because what happens before fears. every class, but painter, with a silence covers as fast as sm in ulti form, bard, sorc, sin and each of those classes (maybe not sorc) kills you in 1 cover+their rotation, just like sm does. and i think this is the main point, you play a plate class, you survive other classes' covers, especially cause half of them do not bind you. but normal classes dont survive the other covers and thats exactly why sm is not the second strongest class without a shadow of a doubt but just your specific anticlass, without a shadow of a doubt.
AT is op just need old resist back from embark. The dmg of AT is great not amazing like glad. But his main problem its getting stumble like 24/7. AND ranger is the dumb class of this patch for sure ..... Root 10 sec , 20 sec cd LIKE LOL
The sorc is fkn good class, in 1v1, and in mass pvp too. This list is poor and irreal, not the sorc m8 :D With a sorc have big chance for win in same situation.
Aion 7.7 Tier List is up now here: th-cam.com/video/fg_pdMOoZR4/w-d-xo.html
Hope your summer is going well, here is the 7.5 Tier List! Leave your own ranking below
Edit: this is a general pvp ranking both for 1v1 and group, but I tend to consider 1v1 more
Thanks for the video, even if the tierlist has 0 intergrity its always fun to speculate
thats the right spirit
jimme . no all can use Speed hacks and AHK ;) so his tier list is on point 90%
ssst dont tell them :p
Just when I was looking for a tier list xD I started playing cleric and I like it but farming inggison mobs for titan coins for gear and is such a pain to do damage even with Sacr Power x.c
game changes with golden stigmas unfortunately
You guys argue in comment section about specific scenarios. The list is made as a general aspect. Some classes are higher than they are in this list for sure.
i believe you have to specify what these tierlists refer to in general, for example in 1v1/solo pvp assassin has been SS for about 2 patches and keeps on getting buffed, yet in group only shines bright in this patch/ends of the previous patch... meanwhile AT has been top grp pvp class since about 6.2 with certain ups and downs, and just recently got such a crazy buff with the blue dp that fighting a group with an AT when you haven't got one is completely unfair, same as painter because of the 30%, yet in arenas these classes are nowhere near SS at least, same as assassin isn't SS in group, there is absolutely no way we can put a bard on S rank in 1v1 arenas right now though, even in group.. so what exactly are the criteria of the tier list?
I believe if you have to weight my ranking I would divide it 70% 1v1 30% group, it's also hard to find group content to show
Someone suggested I could split in 1v1 and group tier, maybe next time, but I'd have to rework the format since noone wants to watch 30m videos
@@Nukedw ye indeed group content of all classes is gonna be hard to find xD
with which player base did you get a list like that? Sorc has the biggest current burst, Cleric is immortal, AT defense and incredible damage, Glad and templar complete with gems, who made this list should not do pvp and I forgot to say about SW, with 1 sleep it gets full HP, always with strong damage with reduced cd cleave...
Not really, sorc is still a joke according to everyone... but slightly better than before. I think you pretty much stated the same as I did for other points, maybe not AT, but I said everything you listed about all the other classes.
What do you think thtat are top dps classes in pve? i am undecided between some clases. i am new and all classes look cool :/
Probably sorc is the top pve dps
Best class for a new player ??
gunner spiritmaster bard
Ozzaru its mad Nuk.... why u say that? Joking nice video :)
Thanks my friend 🤩
Idk why temp is tier b maybe in europe is like that but in NA templar so strong damage and pvp solo is op
agree with everything except sorc. i would put it on tier b. With golden stigmas it will explode u so fast u can barely blink ure eyes
Right now I have not seen many sorcs do that. In 7.7, yes
@@Nukedw we cannot judge a class by how many people we see doing it :)
3/4 people play sorc are trash , sorc is amazing class. Just not a class you can tank and spank. Sorc probably take more talent than painter using one vision skill and do 80k dmg...
@@MechEagle Funny how another non sorc says that. You play an AT, aka a templar+sorc in one class. please, play a sorc and teach us. The reason sorcs suck at pvp is because the class is way to tricky to do the right thing with the right timing, which itself makes it a stupid class. Why bother playing a class that requires special training to do basic pvp when your AT is a class that auto-plays and wins?
Hey ranger is not op in 1v1?
now yes
when was aion balanced :D
During the first day of the update 4.8 in europe before gf fix the bug :p (example: when sm have the skill of gladiator etc...)
Never, but a simpler game (6.0) is easier to balance 😨
Secondo me dovresti fare un tier list per 1v1 e il Group pvp, diciamo che molte cose possono fraintendere molto facilmente (visto che 1v1 e il pvp di gruppo è molto diverso)
Può darsi, però devo ripensare il format
@@Nukedw puoi anche separarli in 2 video, tanto alla fin fine se li carichi dopo 1 settimana o 2 comunque la gente lo vede
sm top s tier list.... xD okai.
i think this is more of a gladiator prospective kinda of list. where s tiers are your anti, lower tiers are the classes you win easily now and ss is a class you used to win easily but that got buffed a lot, especially against buffs like ud.
Not really if you followed my reasons
i did follow your reasons. sm's cover in ulti form is as fast as any other class's cover. sm gets a good boost from gold stigmas, as any other class, but i don't believe its worth a special mention since sm's main burst is from daevanions plus 1 stigma and, now, odian. speaking of fears, with insta fear sm is gonna win against most of the classes, but without insta fear sm fears are not that broken. heres why: the short cast fear(improved) lasts 5 seconds which is not enough to kill many classes, which results in having to cast another 2 seconds fear, during the fear lock, you can use a defensive buff/ripple/heal which will mean probably the sm will not kill you; the long cast fear has been nerfed even more with 7.5, now it will not go through evades/grendal, the long cast really makes it easy to counter many physical classes just by trying to stop the cast/knock back with a bow or kd/poison/stop the cast if the sm stands too close. the long cast makes you sure to kill most of opponents but makes your survivability drop by a lot since if the opponent evades/kites/silence/cc you at the same time as your silence you will be left with nothing but instafear if its up(4min cd). i think its a bit silly to say sm has an advantage in a patch where everyone has insane burst, since most of the classes burst you down in 4-5 seconds meanwhile sm needs 10-14 of silence+fear/s. cc runes dont really help sm in 1v1 since most of the resist buffs you wanna counter give 1000 resist, you would need a really high+ rune and sm is not a class that can afford to waste silence/fears on 50% or lower chances; the only difference is against bard's fear resist, but on the other hand, bard counters sm so hard that it doesnt even need that. sm gets countered by sin, gunner, cleric, bard, painter and ranger very easily.
speaking of sm in group is a strong class but: giving clerics, that were able to ripple fears already/counter them by going duo cleric and staying far away from eachother, an additional remove shock for fears, giving to chanter a dispell for fears, taking away the passing through evades of the long cast fear( sm is the first focused class, every class with half brain cell and an evade will use it as soon as he sees the sm cast the long fear) really nerfed the class. i do think sm is a strong class but not as op as many people seem to believe and definitely not stronger than gunners/clers/bards/painters
ps: i loved the "we dont have enough defences to survive fears" while a clip of a painter surviving 1 silence and 3 fears was being displayed... xD
Your first half of the comment is based on pure rng. I can see your point about group pvp.
The Painter survives only once in 5m - 10m against shorter cds, I would not call it a win... Anyway the sm has an incredibly easy and effective coversilence into fear rotation with additional bursts, it is probably among the most linear classes of the patch. Would not place it any lower than where I did.
@@Nukedw nothing about sm is rng anymore, silence is 5 seconds all the time, the pure rng about fear is that it lasts either 5 seconds or 5.5 seconds for sorrow/7 or 7.5 got curse....i dont think thats game changing/pure rng.
about the painter, sure he had colour on, but no wise dragon/lunaris and he survived to more than 20 sec of burst, he could have also used 65% less dmg between the fears, but it was just a funny note tho, painter wins sm because what happens before fears. every class, but painter, with a silence covers as fast as sm in ulti form, bard, sorc, sin and each of those classes (maybe not sorc) kills you in 1 cover+their rotation, just like sm does. and i think this is the main point, you play a plate class, you survive other classes' covers, especially cause half of them do not bind you. but normal classes dont survive the other covers and thats exactly why sm is not the second strongest class without a shadow of a doubt but just your specific anticlass, without a shadow of a doubt.
i disagree. he put sin in SS
AT is op just need old resist back from embark. The dmg of AT is great not amazing like glad. But his main problem its getting stumble like 24/7. AND ranger is the dumb class of this patch for sure ..... Root 10 sec , 20 sec cd LIKE LOL
I think random resists will not help anyone from now on, because of resist pen. runes; stumble rune for glad for example is already op
My ranger is at rank B :(
Sorry Kim, you are still rank S
Poor sorc
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The sorc is fkn good class, in 1v1, and in mass pvp too. This list is poor and irreal, not the sorc m8 :D With a sorc have big chance for win in same situation.