People who criticize Bayern and "Germans" probably do not know that, although invited to play a friendly match for celebrating legend Johan Cruyff's last match with Ajax, they were not welcomed at the airport by any Ajax delegation, they were put in a low-rank hotel where Ajax supporters made noise until late at night and cherry on the cake while they entered De Meer stadium they were greeted with Nazi choruses. Once in the dressing room, Sepp Meyer in anger told his team mates: "Let's go and pulverize them!" which they did until the end. Pity for Cruyff but totally deserved for Ajax and their supporters! Still nowadays some dutch newspapers keep on blaming Bayern for that merciless match and instrumentally hide Ajax responsibilities: we do remember!
+sfrenato , that is still no reason to spoil that game for Cruyff in the way they did, because it was a special game for him and you can not blame Cruyff for the things that other people did!
+Marco Kolkman Nobody blame Cruyff who is one of the greatest players in football history. Please read again my comment, starting with that "Pity for Cruyff". There is a limit to everything and Ajax plus its supporters vastly went beyond it: THEY are the ones to be blamed for what happened.
+Marco Kolkman You are making a bunch of pointless and irrelevant comments. I am commenting THAT match and how came that Bayern went on the field so much in anger. Yes, for the 3rd time, Cruyff was a great champion and did not deserve that. While I do not understand the need of Ajax society and supporters to go so far, I humanly TOTALLY understand Bayern players behavior - a reaction to a totally inappropriate and unfair behavior. So if there is anybody to be blamed for the humiliating 8-0 that's Ajax and it's supporters.
+sfrenato , you keep repeating yourself but you do not get the point here that I want to make. That is your problem... That you find something irrelevant because it does not suit you because your memory is very selective I don't care. My comments are totally relevant because I make a comparison with another match were certain fans, in this case fans of VfB Stuttgart behaved badly. Or do you consider making monkey-noises to black players not as bad as calling players nazis?. But in that case I do not make the childish remarks like you do that the whole club VfB Stuttgart and all of its players should have been humiliated as a punishment for what their supporters did. That is my point, that you do not seperate the fans of Ajax that behaved badly that evening from Johan Cruijff (it was his special last game!) and the players of Ajax, which had nothing to do with it. Obviously you believe in some kind of collective guilt, I do not...
+Marco Kolkman I can understand that as Ajax sympathizer (all Ajax video's in your profile prove this) you feel bitten in the ass by a sharp 0-8. If Ajax would have welcomed Bayern at the airport, would have accommodated them in an appropriate hotel and Ajax fans would have avoided to keep the players awake in the night singing below their window and keep singing Nazi songs while Bayern entered the stadium, Crujff would have got an appropriate farewell. Ajax society and supported behaved inappropriately and Bayern players reacted in a totally human way. Point.
Nobody welcomed the Bayern at the airport, they had to arrange their own transport to a cheap second rate hotel, during the game the Dutch shouted pig nazis at them. No wonder they were livid and tormented Amsterdam.
@corneL1990bet WRONG!!! If you are invited by some dutch you´d better not join the party. That´s what the bayern players said afterwards. You should get some more information concerning this match from the internet beforehand.
Hoch verdient fur ajax, wenn Ihre Fans so bloed waren, Bayern spieler "Nazi" zu nennen . Ich bin nicht Deutscher, aber es ist gar nicht angenehm "nazi" genannt zu werden. Alte, unertraegliche Vorurteile gegenueber deutschspraechigen Leuten. Respect fuer Crujiff, aber , wie gesagt, hoch verdient fuer ajax supporters!
Niederländer haben eigentlich nichts gegen Nazis. Aus den alten SS-Akten geht hervor, dass es nicht in einem einzigen besetzten Land Europas auch nur annähernd soviele Kollaborateure pro Kopf der Bevölkerung gab wie in Holland. Das wissen die genau. Deshalb versuchen sie jetzt, mit allen möglichen Kindereien davon abzulenken. Muss man nicht ernst nehmen.
Nobody welcomed the Bayern at the airport, they had to arrange their own transport to a cheap second rate hotel, during the game the Dutch shouted pig nazis at them. No wonder they were livid and tormented Amsterdam. Johan was an asshole anyway.
Come on, its not a competitve match as such ... so who cares ... and besides, what do you expect - the two most mighty teams and players to have dominated Europe for 10 years - of course there is immaterial honor in winning.
@@wolfliou3678 Qu'est-ce qui est bizarre ? C'est le match organisé pour fêter les "adieux" de Cruyff à l'Ajax (en 1978, il quitte Barcelone et signe aux Los Angeles Aztecs en 1979, mais en fait il reviendra à l'Ajax en 81 avant de terminer sa carrière sur un doublé Championnat-Coupe avec le Feyenoord en 84). Rien de bizarre. La rivalité avec le Bayern (qui avait succédé à l'Ajax pour dominer l'Europe de 74 à 76) a fait le reste et le match a tourné en déroute pour les néerlandais (les deux équipes avaient décliné et ne dominaient plus l'Europe). Mais c'est anecdotique, même si cela a surement été ressenti durement à l'époque. Cruyff est bel et bien l'un des meilleurs joueurs de tous les temps (ainsi qu'un des meilleurs entraîneurs).
@@fabricechotard1668 Oui, Cruyff était un des meilleurs joueurs du monde. Il aurait bien mérité devenir champion du monde en 1974. Mails hèlàs, la même chose comme en 1978: les Pays-Bas n'ont pas eus de la chance. En ce qui concerne ce match à Amsterdam en 1978: c'était une idée vraiment idiote d'inviter le FC Bayern. La rivalité entre Ajax et Bayern, entre beaucoup de Néerlandais et les Allemands, et, surtout l'atmosphère très hostile contre les joueurs du Bayern (qui devraient endurer des insultes - "nazls", "moffen!" du public avant ce match), tous célà se termine par un résultat extremement bizarre et bête: 0:8 dans un match "amical". (L'Ajax était une équipe penomenale pendant les années 70, mais en 1978 Ajax était une équipe peu satisfaisante - regardez Schrijvers...) Mais on peut bien comprendre comment ca se passait comme ca. Hélàs. (pardon pour mes erreurs, je ne suis pas francais.)
Did the dutch fans or players apologise for calling the bayern players nazis? No. Tells you all you need to know about who is respectable and who isn't.
People who criticize Bayern and "Germans" probably do not know that, although invited to play a friendly match for celebrating legend Johan Cruyff's last match with Ajax, they were not welcomed at the airport by any Ajax delegation, they were put in a low-rank hotel where Ajax supporters made noise until late at night and cherry on the cake while they entered De Meer stadium they were greeted with Nazi choruses. Once in the dressing room, Sepp Meyer in anger told his team mates: "Let's go and pulverize them!" which they did until the end.
Pity for Cruyff but totally deserved for Ajax and their supporters! Still nowadays some dutch newspapers keep on blaming Bayern for that merciless match and instrumentally hide Ajax responsibilities: we do remember!
+sfrenato , that is still no reason to spoil that game for Cruyff in the way they did, because it was a special game for him and you can not blame Cruyff for the things that other people did!
+Marco Kolkman Nobody blame Cruyff who is one of the greatest players in football history. Please read again my comment, starting with that "Pity for Cruyff".
There is a limit to everything and Ajax plus its supporters vastly went beyond it: THEY are the ones to be blamed for what happened.
+Marco Kolkman You are making a bunch of pointless and irrelevant comments. I am commenting THAT match and how came that Bayern went on the field so much in anger.
Yes, for the 3rd time, Cruyff was a great champion and did not deserve that. While I do not understand the need of Ajax society and supporters to go so far, I humanly TOTALLY understand Bayern players behavior - a reaction to a totally inappropriate and unfair behavior.
So if there is anybody to be blamed for the humiliating 8-0 that's Ajax and it's supporters.
+sfrenato , you keep repeating yourself but you do not get the point here that I want to make. That is your problem...
That you find something irrelevant because it does not suit you because your memory is very selective I don't care.
My comments are totally relevant because I make a comparison with another match were certain fans, in this case fans of VfB Stuttgart behaved badly.
Or do you consider making monkey-noises to black players not as bad as calling players nazis?. But in that case I do not make the childish remarks like you do that the whole club VfB Stuttgart and all of its players should have been humiliated as a punishment for what their supporters did.
That is my point, that you do not seperate the fans of Ajax that behaved badly that evening from Johan Cruijff (it was his special last game!) and the players of Ajax, which had nothing to do with it.
Obviously you believe in some kind of collective guilt, I do not...
+Marco Kolkman I can understand that as Ajax sympathizer (all Ajax video's in your profile prove this) you feel bitten in the ass by a sharp 0-8.
If Ajax would have welcomed Bayern at the airport, would have accommodated them in an appropriate hotel and Ajax fans would have avoided to keep the players awake in the night singing below their window and keep singing Nazi songs while Bayern entered the stadium, Crujff would have got an appropriate farewell.
Ajax society and supported behaved inappropriately and Bayern players reacted in a totally human way. Point.
FOREST FELT THE HEAT FROM BAYERN LOSING 5 - 0 IN A FRIENDLY IN 79 THEN GOT CRUSHED BY THEM IN THE 96 UEFA CUP
Nobody welcomed the Bayern at the airport, they had to arrange their own transport to a cheap second rate hotel, during the game the Dutch shouted pig nazis at them. No wonder they were livid and tormented Amsterdam.
@corneL1990bet
WRONG!!! If you are invited by some dutch you´d better not join the party. That´s what the bayern players said afterwards. You should get some more information concerning this match from the internet beforehand.
Hoch verdient fur ajax, wenn Ihre Fans so bloed waren, Bayern spieler "Nazi" zu nennen . Ich bin nicht Deutscher, aber es ist gar nicht angenehm "nazi" genannt zu werden. Alte, unertraegliche Vorurteile gegenueber deutschspraechigen Leuten. Respect fuer Crujiff, aber , wie gesagt, hoch verdient fuer ajax supporters!
Niederländer haben eigentlich nichts gegen Nazis. Aus den alten SS-Akten geht hervor, dass es nicht in einem einzigen besetzten Land Europas auch nur annähernd soviele Kollaborateure pro Kopf der Bevölkerung gab wie in Holland. Das wissen die genau. Deshalb versuchen sie jetzt, mit allen möglichen Kindereien davon abzulenken. Muss man nicht ernst nehmen.
You are crazy!
@@dickvanmaanen9058 And you are deluded
@@dickvanmaanen9058 What is crazy about that? It's a totally reasonable reaction, especially when nobody is apologising on the dutch side.
Last game for johan cruyff = nightmare 😌😌😌
Ik ben zelf nederlander maar ik ben echt wel voor... BAYERN MUNCHEN! :D
Dan ben je geen Nederlander!
@@dickvanmaanen9058 Man man...
Was wraak van Bayern vanwege slechte ontvangst.
Nobody welcomed the Bayern at the airport, they had to arrange their own transport to a cheap second rate hotel, during the game the Dutch shouted pig nazis at them. No wonder they were livid and tormented Amsterdam. Johan was an asshole anyway.
Liga Europa 1999 : Cosmos - REINO UNIDO oito e quatro Bayern - ALEMANHA.
Match was friendly
Come on, its not a competitve match as such ... so who cares ... and besides, what do you expect - the two most mighty teams and players to have dominated Europe for 10 years - of course there is immaterial honor in winning.
C'est un match amical dedie a cruijff
J'ai jamais entendu parler de ce match.bizarre quand même.
@@wolfliou3678 Qu'est-ce qui est bizarre ? C'est le match organisé pour fêter les "adieux" de Cruyff à l'Ajax (en 1978, il quitte Barcelone et signe aux Los Angeles Aztecs en 1979, mais en fait il reviendra à l'Ajax en 81 avant de terminer sa carrière sur un doublé Championnat-Coupe avec le Feyenoord en 84). Rien de bizarre. La rivalité avec le Bayern (qui avait succédé à l'Ajax pour dominer l'Europe de 74 à 76) a fait le reste et le match a tourné en déroute pour les néerlandais (les deux équipes avaient décliné et ne dominaient plus l'Europe). Mais c'est anecdotique, même si cela a surement été ressenti durement à l'époque. Cruyff est bel et bien l'un des meilleurs joueurs de tous les temps (ainsi qu'un des meilleurs entraîneurs).
@@fabricechotard1668 Oui, Cruyff était un des meilleurs joueurs du monde. Il aurait bien mérité devenir champion du monde en 1974. Mails hèlàs, la même chose comme en 1978: les Pays-Bas n'ont pas eus de la chance.
En ce qui concerne ce match à Amsterdam en 1978: c'était une idée vraiment idiote d'inviter le FC Bayern. La rivalité entre Ajax et Bayern, entre beaucoup de Néerlandais et les Allemands, et, surtout l'atmosphère très hostile contre les joueurs du Bayern (qui devraient endurer des insultes - "nazls", "moffen!" du public avant ce match), tous célà se termine par un résultat extremement bizarre et bête: 0:8 dans un match "amical". (L'Ajax était une équipe penomenale pendant les années 70, mais en 1978 Ajax était une équipe peu satisfaisante - regardez Schrijvers...)
Mais on peut bien comprendre comment ca se passait comme ca. Hélàs.
(pardon pour mes erreurs, je ne suis pas francais.)
En wat was de reden dat ze zo werden afgedroogd. Zij waren die houding van het oranje elftal niet vergeten in 74 voor de wedstrijd.
Respectless, two wrongs don't make a right. Bayern Munich should be ashamed, and I'm glad Rummenige apologised for it. That's a great German.
You don't know the whole story.
Did the dutch fans or players apologise for calling the bayern players nazis? No. Tells you all you need to know about who is respectable and who isn't.
Gaje
Ach, het blijft een spelletje….voor volwassenen….voor mij veranderd er niets….Cruijff blijft de grootste….
haha
Hahahahahahahahahaha Ajax kan niks
haha, bad germans