@@pumeluff7509 since no one has answered you, it's easier to proc the stake. It's easier to have a consistent amount of high damage. If you can maintain right at the stake wide would be better as it even trips better.
I'm going to bed, it is three on the morning here. I was expecting something more challenging. HR AT monsters where much much much harder than this softie.
@@Mr.House38 Things would be more "challenging" if they would nerf all the mantles hard. I mean what the point of AT if all you need is put on a mantle and ignore everything.
HR monsters where designed to kill you and your family and close friends the moment they scratched you with rocksteady. Unnerfed Temporal existed and still things like AT luna, Xenos or Nergy could defeat you with easiness. The difficulty is not the same
@@caoslayer Namielle is just a trivial fight to begin with. Even if all the attacks did double damage it wouldn't change the fight much for Gunlance. Namielle is just too slow and predictable. To change anything they would've had to add a AT Nergi Pepega Smash type of move to the AT version of Namielle. Would arguably be quite out of character. Or rework the fight entirely but they didn't change much in HR fights either other than Xeno. Maybe make the water more deadly to stand in or something dunno but I wasn't expecting much from AT Namielle so I'm not disappointed either.
Fought it with Raging Brachy GL (and of course I forgot to change mantles). Took me 12 minutes in 2 player coop, don't remember when I did it alone. So definitely felt easier than fighting an AT back in HR days which would've taken me at least 20+ minutes. Pretty sure Capcom forgot they upped the armor upgrade cap. Furious and Raging hits much harder than this.
I actually went with Kjarr Buster Bomber because of Namielle's vulnerability to blast and horrible raw hitzones, may not be as easy as this build but I enjoy the wide style better. Really Gunlance seems to have an easier time with this monster than basically any other weapon.
With guard +5 and guard up is very easy, but guys keep in mind that nova still can take around 30% of a 200 hp health bar just from cheap damage, so if you are short don't try block... Run away! Maybe I will try with divine bless +5 without blocking to see if we can survive (but I dont think so) . The damage should be enough to kill us a couple of time with the same hit
I have survived the nova before with much less thunder res and less defense. I think is possible if lucky.. But the nova takes time, is better to shealth and superman
I expected her nova attack to be much quicker in her arch tempered form. It seemed about the same speed I think? I was caught at the start of it with little health. I still had time to sheath my gunlance and dive out of it, without quick sheath.
How do I upgrade the waterproof charm? I know I have to a Tempered Coral Pukei quest but I haven't got that quest yet Edit: on a more positive note, I managed to get a similar build, even without waterproof mantle upgraded, my uptime was minimal. Beat At Nami in 12m 56s, he BS me at the start of the match, the rest went very smooth
@@caoslayer that's the issue: I:be done every mantle upgrading quest but I don't have the T Coral Pukei quest. I have upgrade all mantle except waterproof (also missing health booster but I barely use it)
The first one in base was AT Kirin. I could kill you in two hits and had 12k hp when regular kirin had 7k. Was a considerable bump, the first monster that was fun to fight instead of being destroyed in 3m.
Nami likes to face other direction beside your hunter and move around a lot your WSB is only stuck in one point only the distance of long shelling make it easier to reach the WSB for more damage. You can see Cao's WSB stuck at the hind leg and the shelling can reach it just standing in front of Nami
Think she does more loops when taking to the air and I noticed she does her ultimate far more often. Aside from that I didn't notice any mechanical changes.
Sometimes Nami has no end lags between "Hover Zaps" When gliding through air, so it just sweeps around and zaps frantically for a moment. Aside from that, besides longer waves' reach and bs hitboxes, it seems to remain the exact same
At Nami just put a lot more water on the ground, any attack make the water flow, and do that huge AoE before changing zones... And that's it, as long as you don't get stranded by the water, you'll be fine
FRaj HBG, Brachy art5, fight takes 10min lol Kinda sad she has that weird aura like Toaster, limits ranged options big time.. Oh well, sticky that bish.
@@caoslayer Is the hp scaling the same for MR AT? edit: I just checked. AT namellia has 34,000 hp for 1 hunter, 57,800 for two hunters, and 86,400 for three and four hunters. For comparasion normal namellia has 25,600 for 1 hunter, 43,720 for two hunters, and 65,280 for three and four hunters. Not that much more health and it may be worth doing a 4 player hunt.
Either it was weak or the player was too strong. Remember that we didn't have the clutch claw or the wyrmstake back in base world. They really fucked up the balance big time.
@@fuzzythoughts8020 I mean as a lancer you just block through everything anyway. as long as you can see it coming it won't bother you, and pretty much her whole moveset is telegraphed as fuck
They could easily added multihits to her attacks like AT vaal making blocking chip health even at guard 5, and makes you learn new counter timing. Makes you think twice about simply blocking. But they didnt...
AT namielle can be a flying monster, dropping puddles of water from the sky (like bezel juice). And wherever he lands he emits lightning and all water puddles become electrified for extended period of time, creating a electric minefield so you cannot superman dive or roll easily. When you step on it you're either instantly stunned, thunder & water blighted and HP reduced to 1/4 (below moxie range).
@@caoslayer yes and I haven't even noticed the new move, the water laser hit multiple time on your shield that's the only difference I noticed if we don't mention that she release a lot more water on the ground.. I also use focus GL against namielle and it was a piece of cake... Gonna sleep too..
Nami never did much against shielded weapons, using one that can't block is harder just for the nova: it always cover the entire area with water and it's an almost certain oneshot on hit.
@@ClassXero I actually loved those. Once you mastered the fight would take less than 10m to beat those while they could perfect kill you. This is also a sponge but lacks teeth.
Jeez no wonder they didn't release Long 7. This would have been over much quicker.
Long 7 even outclasses poke shell. Basically would render wide and normal useless again
@@caoslayer i hope they will release it with alatreon. we need POWER
@@tboy1991 isnt wide the new Long?! Why no wide7 dir this Fight?
Maybe a long 7 Alatreon gl with no deco slots and bad sharpness (good purple, but very short white, blue and green) would be balanced..
@@pumeluff7509 since no one has answered you, it's easier to proc the stake. It's easier to have a consistent amount of high damage. If you can maintain right at the stake wide would be better as it even trips better.
I'm going to bed, it is three on the morning here.
I was expecting something more challenging. HR AT monsters where much much much harder than this softie.
To be fair, nothing is challenging with long shelling. Not the best dps in town but by far the most brain dead style, even more than stickies.
@@Mr.House38 Things would be more "challenging" if they would nerf all the mantles hard. I mean what the point of AT if all you need is put on a mantle and ignore everything.
it is tough for people depend on raw damage.
GL is lucky got shelling
It seems like no HP increase but it is definitely very bad Hit Zone
HR monsters where designed to kill you and your family and close friends the moment they scratched you with rocksteady.
Unnerfed Temporal existed and still things like AT luna, Xenos or Nergy could defeat you with easiness.
The difficulty is not the same
@@caoslayer Namielle is just a trivial fight to begin with. Even if all the attacks did double damage it wouldn't change the fight much for Gunlance. Namielle is just too slow and predictable. To change anything they would've had to add a AT Nergi Pepega Smash type of move to the AT version of Namielle. Would arguably be quite out of character. Or rework the fight entirely but they didn't change much in HR fights either other than Xeno.
Maybe make the water more deadly to stand in or something dunno but I wasn't expecting much from AT Namielle so I'm not disappointed either.
Fought it with Raging Brachy GL (and of course I forgot to change mantles).
Took me 12 minutes in 2 player coop, don't remember when I did it alone. So definitely felt easier than fighting an AT back in HR days which would've taken me at least 20+ minutes.
Pretty sure Capcom forgot they upped the armor upgrade cap. Furious and Raging hits much harder than this.
I actually went with Kjarr Buster Bomber because of Namielle's vulnerability to blast and horrible raw hitzones, may not be as easy as this build but I enjoy the wide style better. Really Gunlance seems to have an easier time with this monster than basically any other weapon.
With guard +5 and guard up is very easy, but guys keep in mind that nova still can take around 30% of a 200 hp health bar just from cheap damage, so if you are short don't try block... Run away!
Maybe I will try with divine bless +5 without blocking to see if we can survive (but I dont think so) .
The damage should be enough to kill us a couple of time with the same hit
I have survived the nova before with much less thunder res and less defense. I think is possible if lucky..
But the nova takes time, is better to shealth and superman
do we need guard up for this fight? I can block everything without the shield deco
Music... Goes to sleep... Wakes up... Load WS... Stick WS... Music
Perfectly comedic
You will not find these unexpected things in a speedrun!
Playing without knowing the monster is more fun than a calculated run IMO
So ez the Hunter took a nap in the middle of the hunt
How did you do the two stabs into wsb?
First try with a friend, 1 lance + 1 Gunlance ^^ I played lance. Well played else :D
wouldnt this be better on poison gunlance vs thunder?
yes, but rng decided that I would get Zorah essence on a thunder one.
It wouldn't matter for long shelling since it won't trigger status
I expected her nova attack to be much quicker in her arch tempered form. It seemed about the same speed I think? I was caught at the start of it with little health. I still had time to sheath my gunlance and dive out of it, without quick sheath.
Is as slow as ever
yes, very slow. don't even need quick sheath
Was it intentional to place the WSB on the back legs? Does it easier to trigger shelling bonus damage?
A bit late for an answer probably, but you can get trips to happen easier if it's placed on the legs.
is the brachy gl good for this one too ?
Lets range and no access to tool specialist secret but has stronger staggering and all other attacks also are better.
Is better on some aspects
How do you have the Zora set bonus with only two pieces, I thought it needed three? Or am I going crazy
Safi weapon with zorah skill bonus.
@@caoslayer Oh okay, didn't realise you could do that. Thanks!
One day I'll get the guard up deco...
Don't desire it.
The desire sensor exists.
I don't need two dumbs eatplug+ d3cos by the way.
Not at all.
You don't need guard up for AT namielle tho?
@@jeroen92 I have been told a couple of times, I seriously have not tried without it.
Lasers on mh games use to be unblockables
She is out now
How do I upgrade the waterproof charm? I know I have to a Tempered Coral Pukei quest but I haven't got that quest yet
Edit: on a more positive note, I managed to get a similar build, even without waterproof mantle upgraded, my uptime was minimal. Beat At Nami in 12m 56s, he BS me at the start of the match, the rest went very smooth
Is a quest chain, you most do the quests in order to unlock the next
@@caoslayer that's the issue: I:be done every mantle upgrading quest but I don't have the T Coral Pukei quest. I have upgrade all mantle except waterproof (also missing health booster but I barely use it)
@@XmortoxX1990 try to clear a regular optional against coral. I think the game forces to hunt one..
I dont even remember when I upgraded ir
@@XmortoxX1990 same problem with me, got stuck to get this mantle. The quest not appeared even i did the chain quest
Very nice! But that ironside charm IV hurts my eyes.
My fault that I have got no time to upgrade to V yey. Until recently I played more in console than PC
Perhaps it’s the first AT monster? If I remember correctly the first AT is not to overpowered back then (correct me if I’m wrong)
AT Kirin killed you by looking at you. The Lighting damage was insane.
The first one in base was AT Kirin.
I could kill you in two hits and had 12k hp when regular kirin had 7k.
Was a considerable bump, the first monster that was fun to fight instead of being destroyed in 3m.
@@blaze8097 AT Kirin wasn't that bad. If you could kill T Kirin without mantles/thunder resist you can kill AT Kirin with mantles/thunder resist.
Why is using long better than wide GL for fighting this?
Nami likes to face other direction beside your hunter and move around a lot
your WSB is only stuck in one point only
the distance of long shelling make it easier to reach the WSB for more damage.
You can see Cao's WSB stuck at the hind leg and the shelling can reach it just standing in front of Nami
Mainly because tool specialist secret for rocksteady and waterproof overlapping duration
AT Nami was actually pretty easy ngl. I was expecting something like the HR AT elders but what I got was... Did they even change anything but damage?
It is beefier for sure. I dispatch regular nami in falf the time.
But is a huge letdown
Think she does more loops when taking to the air and I noticed she does her ultimate far more often. Aside from that I didn't notice any mechanical changes.
Sometimes Nami has no end lags between "Hover Zaps" When gliding through air, so it just sweeps around and zaps frantically for a moment.
Aside from that, besides longer waves' reach and bs hitboxes, it seems to remain the exact same
At Nami just put a lot more water on the ground, any attack make the water flow, and do that huge AoE before changing zones... And that's it, as long as you don't get stranded by the water, you'll be fine
3:17 what happened there? You actually blocked that but nope 😑
When your stamina hits 0, guard fails. The divebomb eats more stamina depending how close you are to it.
It has a lingering hitbox just so happens he ran out of stamina after the block.
pretty much not hard fight by any means. I only fainted once because I caught off guard and trying to guard the divebomb, in the middle.
She's kinda pain for bowgun, her water coat now blocks bullets.
Use Sticky, when she nukes use a Farcaster to restock and go to the next location straightaway, saves time.
Rapid fire Fire LBG is quite alright 14-15 mins clear, just aim for the chest and 2 legs.
FRaj HBG, Brachy art5, fight takes 10min lol
Kinda sad she has that weird aura like Toaster, limits ranged options big time.. Oh well, sticky that bish.
Meanwhile, random SOS party die left and right.
Rule 1: never SOS AT monsters.
With the hp scaling is not worth it.
@@caoslayer Is the hp scaling the same for MR AT?
edit: I just checked. AT namellia has 34,000 hp for 1 hunter, 57,800 for two hunters, and 86,400 for three and four hunters.
For comparasion normal namellia has 25,600 for 1 hunter, 43,720 for two hunters, and 65,280 for three and four hunters.
Not that much more health and it may be worth doing a 4 player hunt.
Either it was weak or the player was too strong. Remember that we didn't have the clutch claw or the wyrmstake back in base world. They really fucked up the balance big time.
So "easy". Meanwhile I just barely got her below 33% of her health after like 20 minutes. I guess I am just trash. :(
yea, not everyone is a speedrunner.
depends on your weapon.
Shelling got lucky this time.
try shelling in MR KT
RAW damage is terrible
this monster got very bad HZV
Everybody has been there.
Of you have a hard time, be more a scumbag, use more flinch shot and stick more to the back where is safe.
KT is maybe the only monster with zones more weak than the pole. No shelling has been a joke for much time
She ?
well it was namielle. I don't know what they could've done to actually make it hard
Try 'Giving it one shot capability on more moves than just its nuke'
@@fuzzythoughts8020 I mean as a lancer you just block through everything anyway. as long as you can see it coming it won't bother you, and pretty much her whole moveset is telegraphed as fuck
They could easily added multihits to her attacks like AT vaal making blocking chip health even at guard 5, and makes you learn new counter timing. Makes you think twice about simply blocking. But they didnt...
AT namielle can be a flying monster, dropping puddles of water from the sky (like bezel juice). And wherever he lands he emits lightning and all water puddles become electrified for extended period of time, creating a electric minefield so you cannot superman dive or roll easily. When you step on it you're either instantly stunned, thunder & water blighted and HP reduced to 1/4 (below moxie range).
@@MisterCynic18 HBG single shield, 0 guard, 0 guard up blocks Nova, barely losing 30% HP. I would've at least expected to die without guard up lol
i'm so disapointed it was the easiest AT ever ... T_T
I agree. It should do twice the damage at least
@@caoslayer yes and I haven't even noticed the new move, the water laser hit multiple time on your shield that's the only difference I noticed if we don't mention that she release a lot more water on the ground.. I also use focus GL against namielle and it was a piece of cake... Gonna sleep too..
Much rather have this than the damage sponges we had in base world
Nami never did much against shielded weapons, using one that can't block is harder just for the nova: it always cover the entire area with water and it's an almost certain oneshot on hit.
@@ClassXero I actually loved those.
Once you mastered the fight would take less than 10m to beat those while they could perfect kill you.
This is also a sponge but lacks teeth.
Amazing skills and videos. Can i use shatter buster instead of bolt?
Yes, of course.
On long you almost never poke at all.
My prefered status is sleep because when it triggers has a bigger impact on the hunt.