Just looked at that in UK it costs £7000 sterling, similar mobility scooter, only one seat, top speed 29mph, no a/c, range of 20 miles is £6999. I'd definitely spend the extra £1 and have the space, range and comfort of tuktuk for going shops or visiting locally. Thumbs up
@@gyneve wouldn't suit some, but some of the mobility scooters come with choice of motorcycle controls, tiller or "D" bar controls depending upon user.
@@DavidJohnston58 All Mobility scooter comes with one seat that seat in the back isn't really a seat is use for carrying stuff they get this from china you can get them with AC/heater and the back up camera and radio they get them for next to nothing then reselling them as if its a car
I can see these being a godsend to someone in a wheelchair. Already hand controls, easy ingress/egress, room for the chair in the back, and enough performance and capacity for a great urban runabout.
Compared to a 49cc scooter which is how that thing is classified....well...actually the scooter is likely faster, but it doesn't have A/C and rain protection! I like it!
This could be a good option for food delivery services, although a few months back I saw them testing autonomous food delivery robot things in LA. So that may be futile
@@1guyin10 Same thing I'm thinkin'! They work great in a Smart For 2!...& in one of these it'd be pretty comparable but with the added fun of bein' able ta ride some wheelies too!😂
For around-town commuting, this thing looks very promising. Especially now since it has a/c & heating. That's a big plus for those of us that live in the southern states where it gets very hot and muggy. I'm definitely very intrigued.
I really need one of these! If I wasn't living in the Northeast, I would definitely invest in an Echo. You can't go wrong at less than 10K. I can see the golf cart market taking a hit. Country Clubs are going to increase Echo sales though the roof. Not to mention, the retirement communities are going to love these. What other vehicles can you buy for less that includes AC & Heat?
@@lilsammywasapunkrock Yeah, it didn't lose that much. maybe 1/3 to 1/2? If it's got Li Ion batteries then around 60v would be drained to a safe level. If it has Li iron phosphate cells then it would be "dead" at a lower voltage such as 55v. So there was plenty of range left. The last test with the old batteries was pretty much the worst possible scenario for Lead acid batteries, the faster you pull power from them the less capacity they can give you. Modern Li ion and Life batteries don't care how fast you drain them, you still get the same energy out that you put in them.... plus they hold at a minimum 2x more power than lead acid.
The discharge voltage curve on Li-ions are flat. You can not use a voltmeter.. They should have installed a shunt, so you could count how many Ah you have used.
Every battery management system I've ever seen for lithium battery uses voltage for a start and end scale. For instance, my model airplanes charge lipos up to 4.2v per cell. Storage voltage is 3.7v per cell and low voltage cutoff is 3.3v per cell.
@@lilsammywasapunkrock yes, the top end the bottom of the voltage curve has a sharp change on lithium batteries, but not the middle. A BMS that keeps note of the SOC needs occasional to see these voltage changes to recalibrate the SOC (as it can drift over time). This is why in the user manual for my car instructs to drain the battery below 20% followed by a full charge every 3 months...
Hope your recovery is going well. I would hate to meet the milk truck hauler or a semi and cow trailer on a tight corner, somehow I think they would take it as a challenge to squeeze you off the road. I could see this as a good choice for getting around a city especially when I was in college this would have been great to get around to get to work but how does it handle in the snow?
I mean, I get it. This definitely has a place in the world, but at that price point? You could get a disco 3 and still have money left over for insurance....or repairs. IMO that is way too much money for what you are getting when you consider the used car market. At first the cheap insurance had me interested but then you gotta shell out 9 grand for the good model. You can get a REALLY nice used car for that much money.
Its a fascinating Niche the low powered scooter market, thats as nice a machine as you can get thats equivelant to a 49cc scooter. 9000$ but probably will last forever and cost virtually nothing to insure egister\drive. The tow behind concept is very interesting, I like the guy too, pretty cool. Next year 70hp and 140v system with triple the capacity and we're talkin!
Looks like a decently reasonable person mover for warmer climates. Those tires though are like half the size of even my Bolt EV tires and through snow I can't imagine how they would handle....
its a travesty tuk tuks aren't more popular in the USA especially the electric variants as if available cheap even high school kids could learn going electric early in life *and* IMHO its a much better option than any motorcycle....
Ok I was thinking of a food delivery vehicle but yeah this would be fantastic for RVing! The thing is charging but most big RVers go to powered sites anyways. Yeah if your RVing this would be a fantastic grocery and site site seer from the RV park.
Cool I have one but I'm not sure about how the fob key works. This morning my alarm was going on it for ages before it stopped but I don't know how I stopped it. Do you know how the fob key works?
Whaaat? Almost $9000? That's crazy expensive! Those things cost below $3,500 here in Asia, and it's considered expensive. You can get a decent sedan for that price. You can buy used sports cars for $9000. The West always surprises me. No wonder rich Asians migrate there. I'm always culture shocked by these videos that's why I'm so hooked!
I’ve been looking at these recently here(Indonesia) they’ve been around for quite some time now imported from China. I still have no idea how it would register here. 😅 then again my translation skills to navigate the government websites isn’t really that good either
I want to like it but the laws of physics informs me that having the 2 wheels at the back give it less stability around corners and much less breaking power because about %70 of your breaking force happens at the front but here you only have 1 wheel...Why not have the 2 wheels at the front?
@@electrictroy2010 No difference? Not sure how you go about forming such flat out wrong opinions, two wheels at the front has more braking power than 1 and it takes more force to make them tip around corners. Its not up for debate, physics won the argument a long time ago.
This sort of vehicle has captured my interest for quite some time. But at the same time it has always made me wonder if it's even legal drive here on actual roads in the states. Wouldn't it need like a license plate and go through inspection to get a safety inspection sticker? And also, what kind of auto shop would you turn to if something needs to be repaired? I want one, but these questions deter me from actually importing one.
Problem with three wheelers have is tendency to roll and fall on its side if you go into a curve too fast. it can be easy to recovered by one adult because it's light weight but, it's embarrassing. But for short drive, like going to a grocery store and back, nothing else beats it.
Ship it to MOPAR they’ll Hell Cat that thing,,,,imagined Danger Zone Theme playing, Nathan in a helmet with Maverick on it, sidewinder fired and a Tesla explodes.
I mean, you guys do so much EV analysis at this point, you may as well be called that already. You're the only place where I have gotten good EV towing data, limited as it is. I've actually been bugging Rivan pretty consistently trying to get them to give you something for Testing, but so far nothing.
The price is great, but the top speed is really the only issue I have with it. I currently have a 11 year old Camry with 100k miles as a second vehicle. I dont drive it often (less than 1k miles per year), and I've been looking to get rid if it and replace it with a cheap EV I can use around town and tow with my truck (my other vehicle is a 21 year old tacoma modified for overlanding), but 35mph is just too slow as most roads around here are 45-55mph. I also live in south Texas with 100+ summers, so battery cooling is also very important. I'm curious to see how the Echo 3 holds up in extremely hot climates.
Put better battery with much higher discharge and capacity and 20 kw motor controller and then this will fly :D Also 11 kw three phase charging would be good for long trips so you can charge when you go to eat at long trips.
Its a good idea and I like it as a toy but would you feel safe in it? My town is a beach town so it is filled with soccer mom SUVs and big trucks. For me driving that around every day would be a bit scare when you go from being one of the biggest vehicles on the road to the smallest.
@@popwarhomie I said some dealers, not MSRP www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?zip=35763&showNegotiable=true&sortDir=ASC&sourceContext=homePageNewCarTab_false_0&distance=50000&sortType=PRICE&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d426#listing=269055507
"Also, does this EV regen when going downhill?" Good question! I was going to ask that myself. Regenerative braking is one of the big advantages of electric vehicles.
I get we have a long way to go and 50 miles isn’t bad. But I’d rather not have to wait 4 hours to use something. I guess electric is better and cleaner if it will be used indoors. How does the price compare to a similar gas powered contraption?
Try to keep these under $6,000 to make them logical but for the masses. Otherwise $9,000 is too expensive... even though most people driving electric cars are already wealthy and look at them as show off toys but not really for saving money purposes as advertised. lol
"Fat guy in a little coat" (if you get the reference) doesn't have anything on Nathan in a tiny EV! A fun, and informative, vid. Well done!
I like Nathan, but farley was the GOAT!
I could see these things selling in retirement communities
Just looked at that in UK it costs £7000 sterling, similar mobility scooter, only one seat, top speed 29mph, no a/c, range of 20 miles is £6999.
I'd definitely spend the extra £1 and have the space, range and comfort of tuktuk for going shops or visiting locally.
Thumbs up
Maybe on golf courses.
I imagine a lot of seniors who have joint issues wouldn't care for those motorcycle hand controls.
@@gyneve wouldn't suit some, but some of the mobility scooters come with choice of motorcycle controls, tiller or "D" bar controls depending upon user.
@@DavidJohnston58 All Mobility scooter comes with one seat that seat in the back isn't really a seat is use for carrying stuff they get this from china you can get them with AC/heater and the back up camera and radio they get them for next to nothing then reselling them as if its a car
Nice job...I still remember the one from last year.. can't believe it has been a year already... thanks Nathan ☺
I can see these being a godsend to someone in a wheelchair. Already hand controls, easy ingress/egress, room for the chair in the back, and enough performance and capacity for a great urban runabout.
0- 35 in 12 Seconds?? How do they keep tires on that thing? Total drifting machine.
And he said that the performance was “amazing”.
It has special rims to keep tires from falling off with all that power
For sure. Golf cart tires & wheels are not cheap! :)
@@richardchurch3146 ahahaha :)
Compared to a 49cc scooter which is how that thing is classified....well...actually the scooter is likely faster, but it doesn't have A/C and rain protection! I like it!
This could be a good option for food delivery services, although a few months back I saw them testing autonomous food delivery robot things in LA. So that may be futile
Let’s LS swap it 😊
Too small. I'm thinking Hayabusa!
Or hayabusa
2jz
12 valve cummins hahahahaha
@@1guyin10 Same thing I'm thinkin'! They work great in a Smart For 2!...& in one of these it'd be pretty comparable but with the added fun of bein' able ta ride some wheelies too!😂
No matter the vehicle Nathan you never disappoint.. appreciate the hard work TFL 👍🏼
New movie for 2020 staring these vehicles “Gone in 60 hours”. It’s kind of a reboot.
It´s an electric tuktuk for the big cities... I liked.
For around-town commuting, this thing looks very promising. Especially now since it has a/c & heating. That's a big plus for those of us that live in the southern states where it gets very hot and muggy. I'm definitely very intrigued.
Provided you don't get snow ...
@@tomstdenis I wouldn't know. It typically doesn't snow in Florida. Lol
@@iceman45ification1 But it has :-)
@@tomstdenis yeah it did. Back in '77 in Miami. I was just 8 year old. Lol
Yeah yeah & it snows in Hollywood California too (but not typically).
It would be great in suburban communities. Hell it would be nice on a golf course.
DO A TEST
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Wondering when it will be featured doing the IKE Gauntlet pulling a fully loaded Radio Flyer red wagon?
I want to buy one just to put a crotch rocket engine on it 😂😂😂
Yeah go find some wrecked motorcycle and do it
Still expensive at 9000$
On ali express they go for ~ 3000 usd with the lead acid battery.
YOU SHOULD HAVE DRIVEN IT DOWN THE MOUNTAIN TO SEE IF THE BRAKES WORK AND THE HOW MUCH THE BATTERY REGENS
Yeah I was disappointed he didn't drive it down the hill.
@@scubatrucker6806 MAYBE NATHAN WAS AFRAID OF GOING OFF THE CLIFF
Nathan said elsewhere that there is no regen capability.
@@jamesbeaman6337 I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE HIM HIT 60 GOING DOWNHILL
I really need one of these! If I wasn't living in the Northeast, I would definitely invest in an Echo. You can't go wrong at less than 10K. I can see the golf cart market taking a hit. Country Clubs are going to increase Echo sales though the roof. Not to mention, the retirement communities are going to love these. What other vehicles can you buy for less that includes AC & Heat?
I love the parts with the owner talking about it. He really knows his product.
I wanna see that new 6.6 gas v8 in tuk tuk
"Last time I passed a cyclists, it was a major race." Lol.
Still showing a full battery, sounds like a software issue. Would have liked to see the actually battery levels.
It showed voltage. 79 to 75 volts isn't much drop in capacity.
@@lilsammywasapunkrock Yeah, it didn't lose that much. maybe 1/3 to 1/2? If it's got Li Ion batteries then around 60v would be drained to a safe level. If it has Li iron phosphate cells then it would be "dead" at a lower voltage such as 55v. So there was plenty of range left. The last test with the old batteries was pretty much the worst possible scenario for Lead acid batteries, the faster you pull power from them the less capacity they can give you. Modern Li ion and Life batteries don't care how fast you drain them, you still get the same energy out that you put in them.... plus they hold at a minimum 2x more power than lead acid.
The discharge voltage curve on Li-ions are flat. You can not use a voltmeter..
They should have installed a shunt, so you could count how many Ah you have used.
Every battery management system I've ever seen for lithium battery uses voltage for a start and end scale.
For instance, my model airplanes charge lipos up to 4.2v per cell. Storage voltage is 3.7v per cell and low voltage cutoff is 3.3v per cell.
@@lilsammywasapunkrock yes, the top end the bottom of the voltage curve has a sharp change on lithium batteries, but not the middle.
A BMS that keeps note of the SOC needs occasional to see these voltage changes to recalibrate the SOC (as it can drift over time).
This is why in the user manual for my car instructs to drain the battery below 20% followed by a full charge every 3 months...
9k
Rental car companies are willing to deal on all the airport dust collectors in 2020.
Or a REALLY NICE used motorcycle, ATV, UTV, ....
Nathan in tiny cars makes me laugh
Cool Tuk Tuk! I'd buy one. I wonder if there are attachments to turn it into a snowmobile.
Maybe you can modify it but there is an option for snow tires
Hope your recovery is going well. I would hate to meet the milk truck hauler or a semi and cow trailer on a tight corner, somehow I think they would take it as a challenge to squeeze you off the road. I could see this as a good choice for getting around a city especially when I was in college this would have been great to get around to get to work but how does it handle in the snow?
Can you get one with a basket in front? Ill be taking this beauty to walmart!
The rear seat will hold plenty of groceries
3/4 of a smart car. :) Nathan, it is good to see you up and moving about doing vids.
I could see it more in areas with tiny streets like Philippines
I mean, I get it. This definitely has a place in the world, but at that price point? You could get a disco 3 and still have money left over for insurance....or repairs. IMO that is way too much money for what you are getting when you consider the used car market. At first the cheap insurance had me interested but then you gotta shell out 9 grand for the good model. You can get a REALLY nice used car for that much money.
Electric has so many negatives to good ol gasoline!!!
Its a fascinating Niche the low powered scooter market, thats as nice a machine as you can get thats equivelant to a 49cc scooter. 9000$ but probably will last forever and cost virtually nothing to insure
egister\drive. The tow behind concept is very interesting, I like the guy too, pretty cool. Next year 70hp and 140v system with triple the capacity and we're talkin!
Looks like a decently reasonable person mover for warmer climates. Those tires though are like half the size of even my Bolt EV tires and through snow I can't imagine how they would handle....
looks cool but i prefer the reverse trike configuration a fat single tire in the rear looks cooler.i wonder if the renault twizzy will get to the usa?
its a travesty tuk tuks aren't more popular in the USA especially the electric variants as if available cheap even high school kids could learn going electric early in life *and* IMHO its a much better option than any motorcycle....
I would prefer buying a used Electric Smart Car.
I think the benefit of buying these is the savings on insurance. when compared with a car
I'd like to see this go round the top gear test track. See if stiggy can get a bit of extra performance out of it! Heh
"35 mph in 12 seconds... Amazing preformance"
It's a LSV...
Great video. Love the car also
What are they classified in Michigan? How many colors do they come in?? Are they very expensive to buy/recharge??
Ok I was thinking of a food delivery vehicle but yeah this would be fantastic for RVing! The thing is charging but most big RVers go to powered sites anyways. Yeah if your RVing this would be a fantastic grocery and site site seer from the RV park.
Cool I have one but I'm not sure about how the fob key works. This morning my alarm was going on it for ages before it stopped but I don't know how I stopped it. Do you know how the fob key works?
Half of a Smart car.....
Seats 3...
Sorry, but it's not a fair test if you don't put the air-conditioning on when you otherwise would.
I didn't use AC last time. What's the problem?
Nothing to do with last time; with any other car you would not have done that.
Kevin Barry We did our best to repeat the same damn conditions.
Now they're only 20 years behind pen-ùltium battery tech..
So in winter in Denver???
Whaaat? Almost $9000? That's crazy expensive! Those things cost below $3,500 here in Asia, and it's considered expensive. You can get a decent sedan for that price.
You can buy used sports cars for $9000. The West always surprises me. No wonder rich Asians migrate there. I'm always culture shocked by these videos that's why I'm so hooked!
Where can I get one of these in Wisconsin
I’ve been looking at these recently here(Indonesia) they’ve been around for quite some time now imported from China. I still have no idea how it would register here. 😅 then again my translation skills to navigate the government websites isn’t really that good either
Reliant robin on lithium. Does it tip??
Where can I get one of these, how much are these and do you need a special license for it??
More of these types of videos please!
Do you need to register or is it legal to ride it
please can you tel me were the fuse box is my one has lost power it's only done 50 miles and its ded and it won't even except a charger
I want to like it but the laws of physics informs me that having the 2 wheels at the back give it less stability around corners and much less breaking power because about %70 of your breaking force happens at the front but here you only have 1 wheel...Why not have the 2 wheels at the front?
No different than how 3 wheel scooters & motorcycles are designed. They don’t have a difficult time braking
On the other hand, 2 wherls in the front & 1 in the back would improve aerodynamics. It would be shaped closer to the ideal teardrop shape.
@@electrictroy2010 No difference? Not sure how you go about forming such flat out wrong opinions, two wheels at the front has more braking power than 1 and it takes more force to make them tip around corners. Its not up for debate, physics won the argument a long time ago.
$5.50 for a 3 year tag.... *gazes wistfully.*
I'm still paying over $400 a year to register my 2018 car in Colorado, and $73 a year for my 2007.
Where to buy this. The link is for a Jeep sales dealer ???
I'd rather walk .
Judging by the waistlines... Not many people do in the USA and certainly not in cali 😉 here the car is king and always will be!
Californians are in the top 5 fittest states. (Probably so they look good on the beach.)
I'd swap it for my bike any day.
Cool I'd rather not, especially when it's raining.
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This sort of vehicle has captured my interest for quite some time. But at the same time it has always made me wonder if it's even legal drive here on actual roads in the states. Wouldn't it need like a license plate and go through inspection to get a safety inspection sticker? And also, what kind of auto shop would you turn to if something needs to be repaired? I want one, but these questions deter me from actually importing one.
Do this have already in the Philippines?
Ike Gauntlet time! Count the brake applications of other drivers! 😂
Waist of time and money…put a 3 cylinder engine in the pos
Can u get a trailer for this one for exstra batteries?
Now let's see if it can handle a Massachusetts winter
Is there any dealerships near New Mexico I'm down here in Gallup New Mexico
The roof needs a solar panel to trickle charge the battery.
Problem with three wheelers have is tendency to roll and fall on its side if you go into a curve too fast.
it can be easy to recovered by one adult because it's light weight but, it's embarrassing.
But for short drive, like going to a grocery store and back, nothing else beats it.
what type of insurance do you need?
Ship it to MOPAR they’ll Hell Cat that thing,,,,imagined Danger Zone Theme playing, Nathan in a helmet with Maverick on it, sidewinder fired and a Tesla explodes.
Can we get a practical assessment of performance and comfort and handling with 2 regular size and weight passengers
Remember when they banded three wheelers.. This one is next
BROOO NEW VID LETS GO
How many prizes? And ditels infometion
Up here in Canada they call them mobily scooters
I mean, you guys do so much EV analysis at this point, you may as well be called that already. You're the only place where I have gotten good EV towing data, limited as it is.
I've actually been bugging Rivan pretty consistently trying to get them to give you something for Testing, but so far nothing.
From behind it looks like one car on top of another 🤣
A tuk tuk with a steering wheel would be perfect for my family.
If it just looked a little bit more "sporty", like the Carver One, this would be a great toy to mess around town in.
The price is great, but the top speed is really the only issue I have with it. I currently have a 11 year old Camry with 100k miles as a second vehicle. I dont drive it often (less than 1k miles per year), and I've been looking to get rid if it and replace it with a cheap EV I can use around town and tow with my truck (my other vehicle is a 21 year old tacoma modified for overlanding), but 35mph is just too slow as most roads around here are 45-55mph.
I also live in south Texas with 100+ summers, so battery cooling is also very important. I'm curious to see how the Echo 3 holds up in extremely hot climates.
where can i buy one? i looked
That’s a luxury DUI mobile.
You go up steep grades to get to high altitudes. So EVs ARE affected by altitude! 😅😂😅
Put better battery with much higher discharge and capacity and 20 kw motor controller and then this will fly :D Also 11 kw three phase charging would be good for long trips so you can charge when you go to eat at long trips.
This will be popular in India. Bring it here.👍
$9,000 ! OMG Tuk Tuk USA wanted $25,000 and I don't think they had a heater or a/c
I would attach a diesel generator on the rear and have it running and charging the batteries as I use it. Would extend the range.
Just buy a BMW i3 which already has the electric generator built in.
Can I put a hemi in it?
Its a good idea and I like it as a toy but would you feel safe in it? My town is a beach town so it is filled with soccer mom SUVs and big trucks. For me driving that around every day would be a bit scare when you go from being one of the biggest vehicles on the road to the smallest.
I need 2. Do you ship to south Africa?
Witam ja mam taki pojazd elektryczny tury się zepsuł iszukam kontrorela modułu oraz manetki gazu
Pretty crazy that for $500 more some dealers are offering brand new Mitsubishi Mirages with a 10 year warranty for the same price as this
I just looked them up and they are around $15k.
@@popwarhomie I said some dealers, not MSRP
www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?zip=35763&showNegotiable=true&sortDir=ASC&sourceContext=homePageNewCarTab_false_0&distance=50000&sortType=PRICE&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d426#listing=269055507
@@azera55555 Im 500 miles away and they are $15k at dealers
@@popwarhomie well theyre crazy cheap in florida for some reason
I'm in Jacksonville Florida.
Followed by the Model X (not following the X)!
Also, does this EV regen when going downhill?
"Also, does this EV regen when going downhill?"
Good question! I was going to ask that myself. Regenerative braking is one of the big advantages of electric vehicles.
...and I thought your electric Smart was small enough haha
I get we have a long way to go and 50 miles isn’t bad. But I’d rather not have to wait 4 hours to use something. I guess electric is better and cleaner if it will be used indoors. How does the price compare to a similar gas powered contraption?
EVERY ONE OFFERS THE BEST , BUT NO ONE ARRIVES TO THE MARKET , AND PRICES ARE VERY DIFFERENT ( IS FROM 2000 US TO 9000 DIFFERENCE ) .
Can you bring over to lireland 2 tricycles in green
Problem , the lithium batteries cannot take the cold .
The 2021 ball tuck
Try to keep these under $6,000 to make them logical but for the masses. Otherwise $9,000 is too expensive... even though most people driving electric cars are already wealthy and look at them as show off toys but not really for saving money purposes as advertised. lol
I hate it when they call it TUK TUK. It is auto rickshaw people.