To everyone confusing this dance with the Epirotan Albanian Cham dances there is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
Thanks for clarifying. Wikipedia has it wrong. I did think it odd to have Albanian origins since this was danced in my grandmothers town near Tripoli. Do you know if the trick they did at the end actually Tsamiko; I typically see more backflips and jumps...
This is cultural appropriation 101. These are Albanians costumes and dances. Western historians of the 18th century ascribe this costume to Albanians alone.
@@johntrailer1604 You’re completely wrong my friend. Only the Albanians who were in close contact with Greeks wore this costume, the more culturally conservative Ghegs of northern Albania and Kosovo wore different costumes. As per the 18th century historians who ”ascribed it to Albanians alone”, you’re wrong. Visit Robert Elsies website and read what those travellers wrote. Almost all of them claimed it to be Greek (not to mention that they also claimed Tosks to be of part Hellenic stock)…
@@Elstocks21 Fustanellas were worn as north as Shkoder (on the border with Montenegro). I would know since I'm from there and It was actually longer than the ones used by Tosks today. There are plenty of statues found in Northern Albania/Montenegro/Bosnia that depict Ancients wearing Fustanellas. Did Greeks go all the way to Bosnia? I don't think so. Get this propaganda out of your head and use your eyes. The Fustanella that is used in the Albanian costumes looks like a proper kilt (all the way to your knees) and combines very well with other folkloric pieces like the opinga and plis, whereas the ones that Greeks wear looks like a proper mini skirt and has desecrated what the Fustanella was meant to be.. So no copying was done on our end my friend.
@@klaidbushati3596 the short Fustanella is one type, Greeks also have a longer one for your lacking information. And actually, Greeks colonized the Adriatic coast up to Bosnia, now, that’s not to say that statues depict Greeks wearing the Fustanella but there are none such ancient statues up there. Stop throwing blunt lies when a quick google search can disprove your claims. There is no whatsoever evidence of continuation in your part while there is for the Greeks. If Ghegs in Shkodra wore the Fustanella, please back it up with a source because as far as I’m concerned no traveller ever mentioned Ghegs from Shkodra wearing a Fustanella, on the contrary, they wore Slavic-like pants and jackets just like the Albanians in Kosovo did, eith tte exception being their own style of ”Qeleshe”. I won’t bother starting on the Plis because that’s a whole other topic that y’all brag about and try to rewrite history to fit your narrative
@@Elstocks21 A simple google search on your end would have shown that I'm not lying. Pietro Marubi was an Italian photographer that settled in Shkoder, Albania in the 1800s and photographed the whole city. His collection in now in the Marubi Archives (A museum in Shkoder that houses his life's work). You can go to the online archives and see for yourself or simply google "Marubi Fustanella" and you will see plenty of Shkodrans wearing the Fustanella as well as the Tirqe (Pants as you called them). And you don't have to bother on the Plis, because I doubt you will take the time to do a "simple google search on that as well" and just resort to calling me a liar for that as well. Ignorance is Bliss.
The name Tsamiko literally means from Chameria or dance of the Chams. """Swiss musicologist Samuel Baud-Bovy noted that the Greek Tsamiko was not danced among Cham Albanians""".Its alternative name Kleftikos literally means dance of the Klephts, because it was associated with the klephts who fought during the Greek War of Independence (1821-1830).[4] Tsamiko is danced almost exclusively by men.
Tsamiko and the Çam Albanians both got their name from the Tames river in Epirus. This is why many people get confused. There is of course an Albanian dance similar to tsamiko but it's slower paced.
So to give an end, to the Albanian jokes down below about Tsamikos.Tsamides since ancient times are the Residents living by the thiamis river. Thyamis (Greek: Θύαμις), also known as Glykys (Γλυκύς) or Kalamas (Καλαμάς), is a river in the Epirus region of Greece. When Slavs and other tribes after 5th century came down to Greece from the north to establish residencies around the river and getting involved with the Greek locals ,they couldn't pronounce the letter Θ (θητα) - Θυαμις ,Instead they used TS like ts-iamides and not tsamides which is wrong. So the name of the dance and the whole area derive from the river's name.
tzamiko is a dance adopted by greeks. orthodox chams like those renegades with no honour and dignity of suliotes, used to dance it. everywhere in balkans mountain people and city people even of same fare had different temperaments. that's all. romeis the so called greeks as there are no greeks left, included it in their culture by assimilating those worthless renegades of suliotes. they were murderers and thieves and for money they sell they own mother (meaning the suliote chams.) ancient greeks used to live only in seasides. you have them in neapolis Italy, in Marseille etc etc...same as medieval normans/norsemen.... they are French today. Italian too...sicilians etc etc. you guys should not listen papu's bullshit
Greeks and Albanians need to learn the reason why they share such commonalities and traditions rather than fight what dance belongs to whom. It reminds me those teenagers fighting which granddad had a bigger… organ without realizing that they are talking about the same person.
as a Greek American I'm not here to start a flame war, I am however here to ask anyone out there who is Greek and or Albanian if they know where I can find a sewing pattern for the fermeli φερμελη jacket. I understand it's a vest ,I however don't see how the sleeves are sewn on or how the button/ fasteners are connected. Thank you for your time.
@@albanianorthodox8659 yes, almost everyone in the Balkans has a variation of them. After the italians brought them over here in the Balkans the foustanella has become very popular
I am Tsam and I know my ancestors,respect to greeks to our old neighbor,but Tsams in reality are Albanians.Napoleon Zervas killed many Albanias my grandpa was 7 years old when his mother was raped along with his sister,his father and 2 brothers were masacred.I know that today many greeks dont know anything about that genocite no one deserve to be kill in that way.Anyway greetings from Swiss love Albania love my beautifull CAMERIA and respect to greeks!
Please go away Albanian nationalists.. let us enjoy our dances.. go and watch your Cham mam dam whatever it is on your web pages.. talk about amongst yourselves, it’s very annoying and I think it’s best to ignore your comments.. peace ✌️
Arvanites brought fustanellë to Greece from their homeland south Albania (Toskëria). In tosk Albania fustanella is at home. There is the source, the cradle, in our mountains. From there it spread together with our warriors wherever they fought and wherever their families established - North and South. Where there is tosk Albanian presence, there is fustanella. Stronger the tosk Albanian presence, chiefer the presence of fustanella. In the mountains of South Albania fustanella was part of everyone's garment. Going further in north or south it begins appearing more incidentally, mostly as a demonstration of wealth, only for richer people. Where southern Albanians took their fustanella as immigrants, fustanella is just a curiosity, a decoration. Where it originated, it is an usual ordinary costume. After its independence and the big contribute of tosk Albanian arvanites into the this war, the Greek state wanted the fustanella to look like ancient hellenes tunic, so they shortened it. The result is this ridiculous female like mini-skirt, having nothing to do with the original long to the knee fustanellë, a proud garment of tosk Albanian warriors and kapedans, sign of bravure and heroism. Is that original fustanellë that gives sense to dances, and not this circus of cheerleaders pretending to wear "traditional" costumes and dancing "traditional greek" cham dance.
Tsamiko is traditionally danced holding hands not shoulders. If you do the pyramid trick, you switch to shoulders right before the trick which is traditionally a version danced in the Megara area by the Arvanites population there. The step you used is not traditional as well. That step version is called the "scholiko tsamiko" which was a choreographed dance they taught school children in Greece back in the 1920's-1960's. Tsamiko is GREEK, the Tsam people were from the coastal region of Northern Epiros, this dance is Arvanites in tradition, it is also Kleft and Sarakatsan. Not Albanian in origin. Although not really a traditional version of Tsamiko, the kids danced it really well, so BRAVO to them.
😃😃😃 it’s not Greek or arvanitas... it’s Cham dance and chams are Albanians, don’t matter what religion orthodox or Muslims... don’t lie to people. How do I know how to dance it, I never been in Greece..?? Nor have I ever seen any Greeks dance it!!
U know Arvanites are Albanians, as are Chams? Tsamiko means dance of the chams. The whole folklore, traditions, songs, dances, culture, among them the suliots of cham origion and suliots of ghegh origin, they are all Albanian. Doesnt matter what year was taught in greece, what matters is the origin and the poeple. Both are Albanian. As are the dresses.
Everything in Greece like national heritage belongs to state of Greece. Like Albanian, Macedonian, tracian, Thessaloniki, Cretan, cyprian , Athens etc.
How can you call this Albanian dance greek? 😂😂😂 they hate us but have our traditions. (By the way the real fustanella doesn't look like gay fustanella is longer).
Why is the song in albanian arvanitas dialecte ???? Whoe ´s the greek there ? Where are your origins why yall dancing and singing in our language ?🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@@hellenicsouliote2700 yes hamza ...and whatever name you have is jewish. you know why? Christ was not greek... so my little suliote ...how can you live the shame of selling your own blood? ok your mamma bought u...but still
Une flas per vallen ju flisni per mua. Une mund te jem kushdo ndoshta dhe kinez ama vallja eshte Shqiptare Came. Suli eshte Shqiptar. Mario Bocari eshte Shqiptar. Nuk behet historia duke ja vjedh komshiut.
There is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
Ma quando dite ciamiko ciamiko e un altra cosa cimiko e cultura tradizione che i greci non c'è l'anno e un stato creato da cultura tradizione albanese e danza e costumi patrimonio di UNESCO non c'è nessuno che li copia 😂oi oi
@@christos3280 how do i want to be greek? My family have been keeping this tradittions for houndred of years i still have my grand grand fathers arvanite fustanella we all know how to dance this types of dances from young to old wtf you greeks about. even tho i dont hate greeks because i took a dna test and it came out 50% Albanian 40% Greek and 10% italian but this is Albanian not greek. Greetings from Laberia south Albania a real chamiko here
@@hellenicsouliote2700 ottomans was the whole balkans, and by the way I come from a region in Albania that never surrendered to ottomans and to this day we are Christian Catholics So don’t talk b....
No! its actually greek. In 1821 when the greeks were fighting...they were wearing this foustanela. Get ur facts right! everything is Greek ( in greece...)not English, Albanian, American, Serbian !
Deppie K no the Arvanitas-Albanern waring Fustanella when they fightet against Ottoman and no Greek and MARCO BUCARI fightet whith another Arvanitas-Albaner and no the Grece Ok. the Grece never have Heros, becurs they dosent exist!!! THE GREEKS HEROS GON UNDER LIKE TITANIK WHITH THE LIE!!! after Ancient time the GRECE have no HERO OOOO whay where are the Hero from Greceland, when Ottoman Empire time was in 1443 on Albanien Hero was Born Gjergj Kastrioti Iskanderbeg like Aleksander dhe Great!! and he fightet against Ottoman with Albanien and his SISTER and went in Histori after Ancient time, the Albanien are a HEROS LIKE ALEKSANDER DHE GREAT AND LEONIDAS!!!! when you are a Hero you are a Hero for ever not only in Ancient time!!! dhe ALBANIEN from Kosovo, Albanien, Çameria, ARVANITAS-ALBANER, Montenegro, Makedonien are a Heros!!! GREEK DONT CRUY WE ARE SO GREAT!!sorry my English is not god hehe you are Greeks mix whith ARVANITAS-ALBANER and Slavs and Turks and Mongol!!!loke this Fustanella is on from others we have so moch more Traditionen-closes its Amazing becurs the Albanien have so moch more Dancpreformenc Traditionencloses than Greeks!!!! the Greeks allways Danc whith on Dancpreformenc its like Kalinka drdrdrttt from Rusia!!! and now the Greeks Historiker talk abaut Arvanitas-Albaner never talk bevor abaut the Arvanitas-Albanern whay!!its not foustanela, its FUSTANELLA becurs Albanien Language are the Great Best Language in the Wold
Merita Morina my opinion is that fustanella is orthodox not greek or Albanian or serbian, as arvanite I can say you that my ancestors fought for Greece not Albania, I don't care about my bloodline,but we don't like albanians
@@albinh.3149 You guys need to stop to be so obsessed with Greeks. Greek Tsamiko has a total different meaning than Albanian Chamiko. "Tsamiko" means "The brave", while "Chamiko" is originated from the Chameria region. Also the same clothing was worn by Greeks in mainland Greece before the 13th Century and before the Albanians came to the Epirus area. The dances itself are totally different aswell
The greek national anthem, composed after the revolution against your ottomane friends is based on a tsamiko rythm. Can you imagine just one second that we take that from Albania and we composed our anthem? Really? Grow up and everything is gonna be alright.^^
The lyrics of the greek national anthem were written by a Zakynthian and the rythm was for the army. This anthem can not be danced and it doesn't have to do anything with tradional dances. P.S. The anthem was written in Zakynthos which was under British occupation (not Turkish) and it was also written before the liberation of Greece. At first, the anthem was a poem written in Italian by the Greek Dionisios Solomos and it was part of the eptanisian literature . It has nothing to do with the Albanians. You are ridiculous. The whole world is laughing at you. It seems that Albanians believe that they are something special but the same time ,they reproduce the propaganda of Hoxa.😂😂
I am called German in papers ,but my blood is Albanian 100%! And in this video i see Albanian dance and wearings! Fustanella is 100% illyrian wearing ,stolen by greeks !
Why you promote something you killed in the past? Dont tell Fustanella and the chams are greek. Cause they arent. This is our Tradition. Albanian tradition
@@tosk2098 The Fustanella comes from ancient Greece. It is based on the ancient Chiton. Later it was modernized until it was worn in the Byzantine Empire by the Akritai and by Greeks in the mainland, long before Albanians settled there. Since the Byzantine Empire after 600 AD became a Greek empire and the (modern) Fustanella comes from the Byzantine Empire and was worn by Greeks long before the Albanians, it is Byzantine Greek, while the prototype is ancient Greek. You can find ancient coins, paintings and stones in which Greeks, among them some famous Greeks like Alexander the Great were wearing Fustanella-like clothes. The word "Fustanella" is of Latin origin - not of Albanian origin, but it also means "dress" in slavic language.
@@Yoshiclue321AJ That guard in athen u are talking about are wearing a shorter Skirt than the Traditional Fustanella itself. Why do they were the Fustanella? Because many of their heros of the independence war were of Albanian origin. The Albanian dress started to be wearn by greeks after the war.
@@albinh.3149 oh i see! that's very interesting, thanks for telling me lol. I saw the guards in greece a long time ago so I might not have remembered the differences between the two.
@@Yoshiclue321AJ He's saying the heroes were of Albanian origin yet they weren't. Many heroes were arvanites (but not all) in the book "Albanians Arvanites Greeks" by Sarandos Kargakos it states that the arvanites say they are Greeks who had to learn Albanian because they lived in Albania. Another example is a group of Albanians called the Tosks which Arthur Evans in his Book Illyrian letters called them Greeks. "The Tosks on the other hand, have had at different times Greek intermixture." Another scholar William Mallinson famously said this: th-cam.com/video/L2A0lvBd_qA/w-d-xo.html The Albanians enjoy claiming many things that aren't theirs due to the fact they are Greeks and try to ignore it. Also I am an arvanite and strongly identify as a Greek.
Some Greeks are strange, I don’t get it, They call Tsamikos Greek dance they love it and they are proud, but they hate the Tsams, they killed them they, they stole their property, and they expelled them. They say Marco Botsari is Greek, he didn’t spoke Greek till he was a young boy, and so on. I am Tsam (Çam) my fathers house is still there and and he was not allowed to enter greece because he's a Tsam, he died without seeing his own house for the last time. Can you people please explain what the hell is wrong with you?
Most of Albanians love their Ottoman belief because they were Ottoman Partner against Greeks but Albanians love Greek history and Greek Heroes !!!! You are very strange !!!....th-cam.com/video/9KlWFZfqFUo/w-d-xo.html
How shocking and grotesque: Greece expelled all Tsamiks after World War II, and to this day, they are not even allowed to enter Greece, treated as "persona non grata" at the border. This is the real problem with "cultural appropriation," a hot topic in America: the Tsamik people are still denied their basic human rights by Greece, yet their culture is stolen, labeled as Greek, and people laugh while dancing it. Every time you dance the Tsamikos, remember - the people who created it were erased.
"Tσαμικο" means ÇAM and is purely an albanian dance, not greek, at all.... For exampe "Osman Taka dance"; does exist any greek people named OSMAN ?! Οχι παιδια.......
There is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
@@Palladiosios εν ταξει, καταλαβενω, αλα "Οσμαν Τακα" χορος, που χορευεται στην Ελλαδα, τι ειναι: τσαμικο απο η Τσαμουρια/Θεσπροτια ή τσαμικο απο την Ελλαδα ?!
@@Palladiosios please do not embrace your self. you are so desperate to develop an identity. look at your own words...how man can be so blind 18 century style in 2022. tsars means Cham. ok? clefts were chams of orthodox faith, example suliotes. both danced it. muslim and orthodox Albanians. my god...its embracing
+Simply Albanian Your people created his alphabet before 100 years and you treat me brainless? Good joke again. You are so frustrated that you're comming to greek posts insulting us. Poor guy. Even your great national hero Kastriotis had a greek father and a serbian mother. It's not insult, it's called History, my brave frustrated neighbour.
You better learn your history, my brainless neighbour! You didn't take your national anthem from Albanians, simply because it was Albanians who choose Tsamiko as their folkloric symbol. Don't you know that Greek race is something made-up with lies of Greek Orthodox Church (the greatest servant of Ottoman sultan during Ottoman rule)? Do you really think that Arvanites are Greek?! When Greek national anthem was composed, Albanian was the official language of Greek state."Ύμνος εις την Ελευθερίαν" was adopted as national anthem in 1865, am I right? But ten years before, in 1855, the Albanian was adopted as official language. Stating that Albanian alphabet is 100-year-old is something not true: 100 years ago Albanians begun to use the Latin as their alphabet. Before the Latin, we used Phoenician alphabet, the one we have inherited from our Pelasgian ancestors, then adopted by Greeks to write "katherevusa" and "dimotiki" idioms. Follow this link to learn what meant "Greek language" in 1855, and what means dialectos Graeciae Pelasgicas in the eyes of a scolar: anemi.lib.uoc.gr/search/?dtab=m&search_type=simple&search_help=&display_mode=overview&wf_step=init&show_hidden=0&number=10&keep_number=10&cclterm1=&cclterm2=&cclterm3=&cclterm4=&cclterm5=&cclterm6=&cclterm7=&cclterm8=&cclfield1=&cclfield2=&cclfield3=&cclfield4=&cclfield5=&cclfield6=&cclfield7=&cclfield8=&cclop1=&cclop2=&cclop3=&cclop4=&cclop5=&cclop6=&cclop7=&isp=&display_help=0&offset=1&search_coll[metadata]=1&&stored_cclquery=creator%3D%28Reinhold%2C+Caroli+H.+Th.%29&skin=&rss=0&show_form=&export_method=none&ioffset=1&dtab=m&ioffset=1&offset=1
+Simply Albanian Albanian official language of Greece? Katharevousa taken from your pelasgian ancestors? Greek race created by Orthodox Church? Ah hem... Sorry, I didn't know all these thinks, I present you my excuses. Maybee you must warning the historians of the planet about that...
Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer: "Greeks are not real, they have Albanian and Slavic roots". Greek race is a false ideology, but very well manipulated by them, who are distinguished manipulators and perfidies..No drop of blood flows in the veins of the Christians present in Greece, writes Fallmerayer. Early in 1833 they sailed for Constantinople by way of Cyprus and Rhodes. In November 1833 Fallmerayer finally set foot in the Morea, where the party remained for a month before travelling north to Attica. There Fallmerayer claimed he was struck by the preponderance of Arvanitika, an Albanian dialect. The party arrived in Italy in February 1834, and returned to Munich in August of the same year. Upon his return Fallmerayer discovered that the Landshut Lyceum had in the meantime been moved to Freising, and that his position had been eliminated. Behind this early "retirement" lay Fallmerayer's "known convictions, which, particularly in religious matters, are incompatible with the teaching profession."He was instead offered an Ordinarius position as a member of the Bavarian Academy, where his first lecture concerned the "Albanisation" of the population of Attica. His lecture was answered with an attack on his theories by Friedrich Wilhelm Thiersch, and the two opposing lectures led to a controversy in Munich academic circles, as well as in the popular press. The controversy had a pointedly political dimension, with Thiersch representing the "Idealpolitik" position, according to which Bavaria should support the Greek state, and Fallmerayer advocating a hands-off "Realpolitik." This political polemic was further provoked by the preface to the second volume of Fallmerayer's Geschichte, published in 1836, in which he wrote that the Greek War of Independence was a "purely Shqiptarian (Albanian), not a Hellenic Revolution." He advocated furthermore the replacement of the German monarchy in Greece by a native regime. ........................
To everyone confusing this dance with the Epirotan Albanian Cham dances there is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
The Albanian version is also slower in tempo and pace.
Fustanella is from albania
@@florikullau7911 the fustanella is a descendant of eastern Roman clothing, it isn’t Albanian.
ALBANIAN OPINGA AND FUSTANELLA THIS SHOWS IT IS FROM EPIRUS
Thanks for clarifying. Wikipedia has it wrong. I did think it odd to have Albanian origins since this was danced in my grandmothers town near Tripoli. Do you know if the trick they did at the end actually Tsamiko; I typically see more backflips and jumps...
They are so beautiful....
This is cultural appropriation 101. These are Albanians costumes and dances. Western historians of the 18th century ascribe this costume to Albanians alone.
@@johntrailer1604 You’re completely wrong my friend. Only the Albanians who were in close contact with Greeks wore this costume, the more culturally conservative Ghegs of northern Albania and Kosovo wore different costumes. As per the 18th century historians who ”ascribed it to Albanians alone”, you’re wrong. Visit Robert Elsies website and read what those travellers wrote. Almost all of them claimed it to be Greek (not to mention that they also claimed Tosks to be of part Hellenic stock)…
@@Elstocks21 Fustanellas were worn as north as Shkoder (on the border with Montenegro). I would know since I'm from there and It was actually longer than the ones used by Tosks today. There are plenty of statues found in Northern Albania/Montenegro/Bosnia that depict Ancients wearing Fustanellas. Did Greeks go all the way to Bosnia? I don't think so. Get this propaganda out of your head and use your eyes. The Fustanella that is used in the Albanian costumes looks like a proper kilt (all the way to your knees) and combines very well with other folkloric pieces like the opinga and plis, whereas the ones that Greeks wear looks like a proper mini skirt and has desecrated what the Fustanella was meant to be.. So no copying was done on our end my friend.
@@klaidbushati3596 the short Fustanella is one type, Greeks also have a longer one for your lacking information. And actually, Greeks colonized the Adriatic coast up to Bosnia, now, that’s not to say that statues depict Greeks wearing the Fustanella but there are none such ancient statues up there. Stop throwing blunt lies when a quick google search can disprove your claims. There is no whatsoever evidence of continuation in your part while there is for the Greeks.
If Ghegs in Shkodra wore the Fustanella, please back it up with a source because as far as I’m concerned no traveller ever mentioned Ghegs from Shkodra wearing a Fustanella, on the contrary, they wore Slavic-like pants and jackets just like the Albanians in Kosovo did, eith tte exception being their own style of ”Qeleshe”. I won’t bother starting on the Plis because that’s a whole other topic that y’all brag about and try to rewrite history to fit your narrative
@@Elstocks21 A simple google search on your end would have shown that I'm not lying. Pietro Marubi was an Italian photographer that settled in Shkoder, Albania in the 1800s and photographed the whole city. His collection in now in the Marubi Archives (A museum in Shkoder that houses his life's work). You can go to the online archives and see for yourself or simply google "Marubi Fustanella" and you will see plenty of Shkodrans wearing the Fustanella as well as the Tirqe (Pants as you called them). And you don't have to bother on the Plis, because I doubt you will take the time to do a "simple google search on that as well" and just resort to calling me a liar for that as well. Ignorance is Bliss.
The name Tsamiko literally means from Chameria or dance of the Chams. """Swiss musicologist Samuel Baud-Bovy noted that the Greek Tsamiko was not danced among Cham Albanians""".Its alternative name Kleftikos literally means dance of the Klephts, because it was associated with the klephts who fought during the Greek War of Independence (1821-1830).[4] Tsamiko is danced almost exclusively by men.
Tsamiko and the Çam Albanians both got their name from the Tames river in Epirus. This is why many people get confused. There is of course an Albanian dance similar to tsamiko but it's slower paced.
@@gnas1897 tsamiko is from the word tsamis which means brave
@@Yourgymrat56 and tsamis comes from the river's name.
To any Albo saying it's a "cham dance hurr durr"...
It's not. I've seen Cham dances and it's different. Very different.
Dude, Check out where the Fustanella comes from too
OJONAN It comes from Ancient Greece
@@sigmaalpha8698 no it does not.
Comes from Albanians
Aldi Aldo No it doesn’t. It comes from Greeks.
@@sigmaalpha8698 it comes from Albanians
As does the rest of epiriotic/Albanian costums and culture
I Love To Dance Tsamiko
thank you kosta
So to give an end, to the Albanian jokes down below about Tsamikos.Tsamides since ancient times are the Residents living by the thiamis river. Thyamis (Greek: Θύαμις), also known as Glykys (Γλυκύς) or Kalamas (Καλαμάς), is a river in the Epirus region of Greece. When Slavs and other tribes after 5th century came down to Greece from the north to establish residencies around the river and getting involved with the Greek locals ,they couldn't pronounce the letter Θ (θητα) - Θυαμις ,Instead they used TS like ts-iamides and not tsamides which is wrong. So the name of the dance and the whole area derive from the river's name.
tzamiko is a dance adopted by greeks. orthodox chams like those renegades with no honour and dignity of suliotes, used to dance it. everywhere in balkans mountain people and city people even of same fare had different temperaments. that's all. romeis the so called greeks as there are no greeks left, included it in their culture by assimilating those worthless renegades of suliotes. they were murderers and thieves and for money they sell they own mother (meaning the suliote chams.) ancient greeks used to live only in seasides. you have them in neapolis Italy, in Marseille etc etc...same as medieval normans/norsemen.... they are French today. Italian too...sicilians etc etc. you guys should not listen papu's bullshit
😂😂 who can’t say the 9 😂😂 Greeks don’t use the Ts or ch and it’s called the cham dance the chams are people
@@iamunikk4694 we use the ts in the standard Greek language and the Ch/Ç in many local dialects and idioms within and outside of Greece.
SONG'S NAME??
Çamiko is the dance of albania not ellada.
Greeks and Albanians need to learn the reason why they share such commonalities and traditions rather than fight what dance belongs to whom. It reminds me those teenagers fighting which granddad had a bigger… organ without realizing that they are talking about the same person.
Nuk i lat gja pa i vjedh shqiptarve (ilireve)
Arvanitas language 😉 and dance
Klephtiko
as a Greek American I'm not here to start a flame war, I am however here to ask anyone out there who is Greek and or Albanian if they know where I can find a sewing pattern for the fermeli φερμελη jacket. I understand it's a vest ,I however don't see how the sleeves are sewn on or how the button/ fasteners are connected. Thank you for your time.
They sell them in Albania
You find it in Albanian Pazar
You can find them anywhere in Greece
@@Palladiosios also vlachs have fustanella.
@@albanianorthodox8659 yes, almost everyone in the Balkans has a variation of them. After the italians brought them over here in the Balkans the foustanella has become very popular
I am Tsam and I know my ancestors,respect to greeks to our old neighbor,but Tsams in reality are Albanians.Napoleon Zervas killed many Albanias my grandpa was 7 years old when his mother was raped along with his sister,his father and 2 brothers were masacred.I know that today many greeks dont know anything about that genocite no one deserve to be kill in that way.Anyway greetings from Swiss love Albania love my beautifull CAMERIA and respect to greeks!
No they are neither albanians nor tsams they are called greek thesprótians. Dont get confused. !
@@panosbadenwurtemberg7325 HAHA
Ah mor shqipe kur do kthemi ntoka tona
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Nuk do të ktheni në thesproti kurre sepse nuk nuk ju i përkasin këto tokat, këto janë të tonat.
@@panosbadenwurtemberg7325 keto toka jan shqiptare arvanitas tqifsha ropt
Please go away Albanian nationalists.. let us enjoy our dances.. go and watch your Cham mam dam whatever it is on your web pages.. talk about amongst yourselves, it’s very annoying and I think it’s best to ignore your comments.. peace ✌️
Arvanites brought fustanellë to Greece from their homeland south Albania (Toskëria). In tosk Albania fustanella is at home. There is the source, the cradle, in our mountains. From there it spread together with our warriors wherever they fought and wherever their families established - North and South. Where there is tosk Albanian presence, there is fustanella. Stronger the tosk Albanian presence, chiefer the presence of fustanella. In the mountains of South Albania fustanella was part of everyone's garment. Going further in north or south it begins appearing more incidentally, mostly as a demonstration of wealth, only for richer people. Where southern Albanians took their fustanella as immigrants, fustanella is just a curiosity, a decoration. Where it originated, it is an usual ordinary costume. After its independence and the big contribute of tosk Albanian arvanites into the this war, the Greek state wanted the fustanella to look like ancient hellenes tunic, so they shortened it. The result is this ridiculous female like mini-skirt, having nothing to do with the original long to the knee fustanellë, a proud garment of tosk Albanian warriors and kapedans, sign of bravure and heroism. Is that original fustanellë that gives sense to dances, and not this circus of cheerleaders pretending to wear "traditional" costumes and dancing "traditional greek" cham dance.
Shalvar for you but never FOUSTANELA 🦅🇬🇷🦅
Tsamiko is traditionally danced holding hands not shoulders. If you do the pyramid trick, you switch to shoulders right before the trick which is traditionally a version danced in the Megara area by the Arvanites population there. The step you used is not traditional as well. That step version is called the "scholiko tsamiko" which was a choreographed dance they taught school children in Greece back in the 1920's-1960's. Tsamiko is GREEK, the Tsam people were from the coastal region of Northern Epiros, this dance is Arvanites in tradition, it is also Kleft and Sarakatsan. Not Albanian in origin. Although not really a traditional version of Tsamiko, the kids danced it really well, so BRAVO to them.
Paulina Vastakis I love to dance Tsamiko
what do mean by not Albanian origin?
😃😃😃 it’s not Greek or arvanitas... it’s Cham dance and chams are Albanians, don’t matter what religion orthodox or Muslims... don’t lie to people. How do I know how to dance it, I never been in Greece..?? Nor have I ever seen any Greeks dance it!!
U know Arvanites are Albanians, as are Chams?
Tsamiko means dance of the chams.
The whole folklore, traditions, songs, dances, culture, among them the suliots of cham origion and suliots of ghegh origin, they are all Albanian.
Doesnt matter what year was taught in greece, what matters is the origin and the poeple. Both are Albanian. As are the dresses.
Aldi Aldo The dresses and the dance is Greek. Tsamiko is a Greek dance and was not danced amongst Cham Albanians.
Everything in Greece like national heritage belongs to state of Greece. Like Albanian, Macedonian, tracian, Thessaloniki, Cretan, cyprian , Athens etc.
How can you call this Albanian dance greek? 😂😂😂 they hate us but have our traditions. (By the way the real fustanella doesn't look like gay fustanella is longer).
longer like women 😂😂😂
@@hellenicsouliote2700th-cam.com/video/Y8c7XU_pixc/w-d-xo.html αχ μορε αρβανίτ πσε μπεν κσου
albanian and arvanites People in greke ist brother fustanella .. ( greke ist wllehe ..slavia Mix latin and turkish sperm
Hypnotic...
And THE 2
tradicionale shqiptare arvanitas and albanien arvanitas. ..arvanitas. ...arvanitas. ...
Why is the song in albanian arvanitas dialecte ????
Whoe ´s the greek there ? Where are your origins why yall dancing and singing in our language ?🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Fustanella is Albanian.
indian summer No it’s Greek
@@sigmaalpha8698 minifund is yours fustanella is ours
@@rickastley5321 You still carrying on with this? It’s already been confirmed that the fustanella is Greek.
@@sigmaalpha8698 yes thats why fustanella is an albanian name lmao
@@rickastley5321 It’s Latin/Italian...
Albania
I'm Frank with Greek I love you in Greek lucky dance Amigos Tacos dr. Kozy Heat tacos
Pyes nje grek.A keni valle tradicionale greke? Po me tha kemi vallet Çame (Shqiptare) 😂
I ask an Albanian : Have you turkish names ??? He say Hamza 🤣
@@hellenicsouliote2700 yes hamza ...and whatever name you have is jewish. you know why? Christ was not greek... so my little suliote ...how can you live the shame of selling your own blood? ok your mamma bought u...but still
One Albanian named Hamza, the other named Ahmedaj, the other Bajrami Hahahhahahaha you are Turks
Une flas per vallen ju flisni per mua. Une mund te jem kushdo ndoshta dhe kinez ama vallja eshte Shqiptare Came. Suli eshte Shqiptar. Mario Bocari eshte Shqiptar. Nuk behet historia duke ja vjedh komshiut.
cham were killed and massacred !but the music, the clothes and the culture are kept, what a shame...
Don’t collaborate next time buddy
There is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
The GREEK HERO NAZZI Napoleon Zervas was the one who was Calobarating with NAZZI.....They have pictures of him with NAZZI SS.
Don't kill 1 Million Greeks next time
@@AKosta-zf3vn ZERVAS was Arvanite :)
Puro vallë dhe kenge Shqip
Ma quando dite ciamiko ciamiko e un altra cosa cimiko e cultura tradizione che i greci non c'è l'anno e un stato creato da cultura tradizione albanese e danza e costumi patrimonio di UNESCO non c'è nessuno che li copia 😂oi oi
Bravo Greeks for not forgetting your Albanian traditions
Bravo to you Albanians for obsessing and loving Greek traditions and even keeping them for your own.
@@christos3280 how do i want to be greek? My family have been keeping this tradittions for houndred of years i still have my grand grand fathers arvanite fustanella we all know how to dance this types of dances from young to old wtf you greeks about. even tho i dont hate greeks because i took a dna test and it came out 50% Albanian 40% Greek and 10% italian but this is Albanian not greek. Greetings from Laberia south Albania a real chamiko here
@@speeddemon8977 Tsamiko is a Greek dance. It was danced by the Greek Klephts in 1821, it was not dance amongst Albanians.
joni kejani islami ottomani !!! Bravo for not forgetting your Ottoman traditions.
@@hellenicsouliote2700 ottomans was the whole balkans, and by the way I come from a region in Albania that never surrendered to ottomans and to this day we are Christian Catholics
So don’t talk b....
Can you pls delete some comments
Why, Are you afraid of the truth?
Fustanella is Albanisch, a Word Fustan?dont have dhe Grece its Albanisch Fustan-kleid, Fustan-dress and dhe Grece Dress-forema, Kleider-raúcha Ok
No! its actually greek. In 1821 when the greeks were fighting...they were wearing this foustanela. Get ur facts right! everything is Greek ( in greece...)not English, Albanian, American, Serbian !
Deppie K no the Arvanitas-Albanern waring Fustanella when they fightet against Ottoman and no Greek and MARCO BUCARI fightet whith another Arvanitas-Albaner and no the Grece Ok. the Grece never have Heros, becurs they dosent exist!!! THE GREEKS HEROS GON UNDER LIKE TITANIK WHITH THE LIE!!! after Ancient time the GRECE have no HERO OOOO whay where are the Hero from Greceland, when Ottoman Empire time was in 1443 on Albanien Hero was Born Gjergj Kastrioti Iskanderbeg like Aleksander dhe Great!! and he fightet against Ottoman with Albanien and his SISTER and went in Histori after Ancient time, the Albanien are a HEROS LIKE ALEKSANDER DHE GREAT AND LEONIDAS!!!! when you are a Hero you are a Hero for ever not only in Ancient time!!! dhe ALBANIEN from Kosovo, Albanien, Çameria, ARVANITAS-ALBANER, Montenegro, Makedonien are a Heros!!! GREEK DONT CRUY WE ARE SO GREAT!!sorry my English is not god hehe you are Greeks mix whith ARVANITAS-ALBANER and Slavs and Turks and Mongol!!!loke this Fustanella is on from others we have so moch more Traditionen-closes its Amazing becurs the Albanien have so moch more Dancpreformenc Traditionencloses than Greeks!!!! the Greeks allways Danc whith on Dancpreformenc its like Kalinka drdrdrttt from Rusia!!! and now the Greeks Historiker talk abaut Arvanitas-Albaner never talk bevor abaut the Arvanitas-Albanern whay!!its not foustanela, its FUSTANELLA becurs Albanien Language are the Great Best Language in the Wold
Merita Morina Learn some history first and then talk. Fustanella is only greek. Albanians has stolen that from Greeks.
Merita Morina my opinion is that fustanella is orthodox not greek or Albanian or serbian, as arvanite I can say you that my ancestors fought for Greece not Albania, I don't care about my bloodline,but we don't like albanians
Merita Morina Alexander the great and Leonidas albanians? OK you don't have brain XD
Arvanites language ist was the original old balkanic people and fustanella ist Albanian and Arvanites culture greetings from Italy
Bw123 Bw123 Fustanella is a Greek costume. The Greeks are the original people of the Balkans.
Vardous Corvinus Scanderbeg The Balkans and Anatolia are Greek lands.
Greek!
No
🇬🇷🇨🇾
No
Yes
This is a dance of the Albanian çam, which the Greeks did just like the fustanella skirt, but in a ridiculous and woman's version.
Damn,.... greeks adopted a lot from Albanians 😂😂😂😂
Nasos GR i literally love you for this comment
@@pagosiixbl2136 cause u ga.y?
@ΔⲰⲢⲀ ⲶⲀⲪⲈⲖⲎ Jealous of greeks copying Albanian traditional clothing and dances?
Naa...
@@albinh.3149 You guys need to stop to be so obsessed with Greeks.
Greek Tsamiko has a total different meaning than Albanian Chamiko.
"Tsamiko" means "The brave", while "Chamiko" is originated from the Chameria region.
Also the same clothing was worn by Greeks in mainland Greece before the 13th Century and before the Albanians came to the Epirus area.
The dances itself are totally different aswell
This is Cham Albanian dance
HELLENIC DANCE ORE THIEV
The greek national anthem, composed after the revolution against your ottomane friends is based on a tsamiko rythm. Can you imagine just one second that we take that from Albania and we composed our anthem? Really? Grow up and everything is gonna be alright.^^
It isn't based on the Kleptiko rythm and it isn't Albanian
@@Palladiosios Some people just refuse to listen to the message! **shaking my head** 😒🙄😑
The lyrics of the greek national anthem were written by a Zakynthian and the rythm was for the army. This anthem can not be danced and it doesn't have to do anything with tradional dances.
P.S. The anthem was written in Zakynthos which was under British occupation (not Turkish) and it was also written before the liberation of Greece. At first, the anthem was a poem written in Italian by the Greek Dionisios Solomos and it was part of the eptanisian literature . It has nothing to do with the Albanians. You are ridiculous. The whole world is laughing at you. It seems that Albanians believe that they are something special but the same time ,they reproduce the propaganda of Hoxa.😂😂
of course you didi you little shit. 100% of the idiots who fought for Greece were ethnically Albanians.
No they are neither albanians nor tsams they are called greek thesprótians. Dont get confused. !
I am called German in papers ,but my blood is Albanian 100%!
And in this video i see Albanian dance and wearings!
Fustanella is 100% illyrian wearing ,stolen by greeks !
@@Giorgio21443 I called Greek in papers and WE ARVANITES have Greek blood...You are our enemies
@@hellenicsouliote2700 since you are Arvanites I will tell you something in your language, the only thing you are is… Bira bithes 😂
Why you promote something you killed in the past? Dont tell Fustanella and the chams are greek. Cause they arent. This is our Tradition. Albanian tradition
None of the things you mentioned are Albanian
@@Palladiosios oh yeah then tell me the history behind them?!
@@tosk2098 The Fustanella comes from ancient Greece.
It is based on the ancient Chiton.
Later it was modernized until it was worn in the Byzantine Empire by the Akritai and by Greeks in the mainland, long before Albanians settled there.
Since the Byzantine Empire after 600 AD became a Greek empire and the (modern) Fustanella comes from the Byzantine Empire and was worn by Greeks long before the Albanians, it is Byzantine Greek, while the prototype is ancient Greek.
You can find ancient coins, paintings and stones in which Greeks, among them some famous Greeks like Alexander the Great were wearing Fustanella-like clothes.
The word "Fustanella" is of Latin origin - not of Albanian origin, but it also means "dress" in slavic language.
@@xKingBilly_ th-cam.com/video/DKSS4-sQAkM/w-d-xo.html
Albanian dance from Chameria 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Ameran N It’s a Greek dance 🇬🇷
Ameran N Chameria is a Greek word
@@sigmaalpha8698 hahaha look boy the original dance of Chameria th-cam.com/video/a4ymcuBYrHo/w-d-xo.html
@@sigmaalpha8698 th-cam.com/video/S-k8TZgDHKE/w-d-xo.html
@@sigmaalpha8698 th-cam.com/video/gbXAgSn7TsA/w-d-xo.html
The dance is Albanian, the traditional outfit(Fustanella) is also Albanian, yet they call it Greek!!!!! what a joke!
But I saw Greek guards wear this stuff in Athens??? Why can’t it also be Greek lol
It's Greek
@@Yoshiclue321AJ That guard in athen u are talking about are wearing a shorter Skirt than the Traditional Fustanella itself.
Why do they were the Fustanella? Because many of their heros of the independence war were of Albanian origin. The Albanian dress started to be wearn by greeks after the war.
@@albinh.3149 oh i see! that's very interesting, thanks for telling me lol. I saw the guards in greece a long time ago so I might not have remembered the differences between the two.
@@Yoshiclue321AJ He's saying the heroes were of Albanian origin yet they weren't.
Many heroes were arvanites (but not all) in the book "Albanians Arvanites Greeks" by Sarandos Kargakos it states that the arvanites say they are Greeks who had to learn Albanian because they lived in Albania.
Another example is a group of Albanians called the Tosks which Arthur Evans in his Book Illyrian letters called them Greeks.
"The Tosks on the other hand, have had at different times Greek intermixture."
Another scholar William Mallinson famously said this: th-cam.com/video/L2A0lvBd_qA/w-d-xo.html
The Albanians enjoy claiming many things that aren't theirs due to the fact they are Greeks and try to ignore it.
Also I am an arvanite and strongly identify as a Greek.
look at the outfit i'm going crazy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dont disrespect
Ok onion head
NE DÜYÜN LA look the red flag with moon & star 🤣
Red Astronaut 🤣
First Greeks killed the chamikos then they steal their dance
raise your voice pls😬......never forget chameria ....
Just like the Chams committed war crimes against the Greeks when collaborating with the nazis.
Tsamiko is a Greek dance
@@hellenicboy4757
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yehhhhh is very clear😩😩
@@hellenicboy4757 xD Create ur own dance instead of stealing it from ur neighbors. xD
Some Greeks are strange, I don’t get it, They call Tsamikos Greek dance they love it and they are proud, but they hate the Tsams, they killed them they, they stole their property, and they expelled them. They say Marco Botsari is Greek, he didn’t spoke Greek till he was a young boy, and so on. I am Tsam (Çam) my fathers house is still there and and he was not allowed to enter greece because he's a Tsam, he died without seeing his own house for the last time. Can you people please explain what the hell is wrong with you?
Most of Albanians love their Ottoman belief because they were Ottoman Partner against Greeks but Albanians love Greek history and Greek Heroes !!!! You are very strange !!!....th-cam.com/video/9KlWFZfqFUo/w-d-xo.html
@@hellenicsouliote2700Hes we did , so did Suljotes thievs.
ALBANIA!!! KAM NJE LULE, KAM NJE KRINE
How shocking and grotesque: Greece expelled all Tsamiks after World War II, and to this day, they are not even allowed to enter Greece, treated as "persona non grata" at the border. This is the real problem with "cultural appropriation," a hot topic in America: the Tsamik people are still denied their basic human rights by Greece, yet their culture is stolen, labeled as Greek, and people laugh while dancing it. Every time you dance the Tsamikos, remember - the people who created it were erased.
"Tσαμικο" means ÇAM and is purely an albanian dance, not greek, at all....
For exampe "Osman Taka dance"; does exist any greek people named OSMAN ?! Οχι παιδια.......
There is a difference between Tsamiko (Greek dance from central Greece) and Chamiko (Albanian dance from Epirus). They are not only danced differently but also have different meaning and completely different origins. The Albanian dance (Chamiko) takes it’s name from the Chamis river of Epirus (Chamuria/Chameria also takes it’s name from said river) and Tsamiko takes it’s name from the Greek word tsamis meaning brave. This is because the Tsamiko dance was originally danced by the mountain Klephts which is why it’s also caked Klephtiko(Klephts are Greeks who were never subjugated by the Turks and waged gorilla wars until our independence). Do you understand how they’re not the same?
@@Palladiosios εν ταξει, καταλαβενω, αλα "Οσμαν Τακα" χορος, που χορευεται στην Ελλαδα, τι ειναι: τσαμικο απο η Τσαμουρια/Θεσπροτια ή τσαμικο απο την Ελλαδα ?!
@@ervinsarkaro5999 είναι της Θεσπρωτίας που μιλάει για έναν Αλβανό που καταδικάστηκε σε θάνατο
@@Palladiosios σωστα !
Γεια σου !
@@Palladiosios please do not embrace your self. you are so desperate to develop an identity. look at your own words...how man can be so blind 18 century style in 2022. tsars means Cham. ok? clefts were chams of orthodox faith, example suliotes. both danced it. muslim and orthodox Albanians. my god...its embracing
The Albanian nationalist in these comments are like a computer virus
Well Greeks kicked Chams away but you are still doing their dances....
@@georgeskanderbeg3242 Yes WE kicked Chams and soon Albanians
@@hellenicsouliote2700 😂😂😂 Albanians will take over
nope...the man has a point....
tsamiko is an albanian dance and means cam which greeks kicked out of their homeland
πρόσεχε μην κλάσεις
Deppie K lol
OPINGAT🇦🇱
FUSTANELLA🇦🇱
FOUSTANELA.... th-cam.com/video/Q-plCepTIOY/w-d-xo.html
They aren't good. Must be lighter on the feet must float like swooping 🐦
Albanian outfit, so cool
Skirt a bit too short 🤣, Albanian one is better
It's not Albanian, it's Napolitan
@@Palladiosios goggle it
A Very Poor imitation of Albanian Traditional Cham Dance...
OneTruthMaster ur comment is very poor to me
The dancers can be Greek, but they're wearing an Albanian National Costume (the fustanella), and they're dancing an Albanian dance: the "Chamiko".
Good joke
The truth seems a joke to the brainless people!
+Simply Albanian Your people created his alphabet before 100 years and you treat me brainless? Good joke again. You are so frustrated that you're comming to greek posts insulting us. Poor guy. Even your great national hero Kastriotis had a greek father and a serbian mother. It's not insult, it's called History, my brave frustrated neighbour.
You better learn your history, my brainless neighbour!
You didn't take your national anthem from Albanians, simply because it was Albanians who choose Tsamiko as their folkloric symbol. Don't you know that Greek race is something made-up with lies of Greek Orthodox Church (the greatest servant of Ottoman sultan during Ottoman rule)? Do you really think that Arvanites are Greek?! When Greek national anthem was composed, Albanian was the official language of Greek state."Ύμνος εις την Ελευθερίαν" was adopted as national anthem in 1865, am I right? But ten years before, in 1855, the Albanian was adopted as official language. Stating that Albanian alphabet is 100-year-old is something not true: 100 years ago Albanians begun to use the Latin as their alphabet. Before the Latin, we used Phoenician alphabet, the one we have inherited from our Pelasgian ancestors, then adopted by Greeks to write "katherevusa" and "dimotiki" idioms.
Follow this link to learn what meant "Greek language" in 1855, and what means dialectos Graeciae Pelasgicas in the eyes of a scolar: anemi.lib.uoc.gr/search/?dtab=m&search_type=simple&search_help=&display_mode=overview&wf_step=init&show_hidden=0&number=10&keep_number=10&cclterm1=&cclterm2=&cclterm3=&cclterm4=&cclterm5=&cclterm6=&cclterm7=&cclterm8=&cclfield1=&cclfield2=&cclfield3=&cclfield4=&cclfield5=&cclfield6=&cclfield7=&cclfield8=&cclop1=&cclop2=&cclop3=&cclop4=&cclop5=&cclop6=&cclop7=&isp=&display_help=0&offset=1&search_coll[metadata]=1&&stored_cclquery=creator%3D%28Reinhold%2C+Caroli+H.+Th.%29&skin=&rss=0&show_form=&export_method=none&ioffset=1&dtab=m&ioffset=1&offset=1
+Simply Albanian Albanian official language of Greece? Katharevousa taken from your pelasgian ancestors? Greek race created by Orthodox Church? Ah hem... Sorry, I didn't know all these thinks, I present you my excuses. Maybee you must warning the historians of the planet about that...
U mean Albanian
Like your Ottoman name 🤣
Peloponnesian traditional dances
🤣🤣🤣 of course,.
Every good thing in Greece is of Albanian origin 🤣
What a shame
Shame is your Greek name Ali Hassani Mohameti 🤣
100% Albanian. There is no such a thing Greek
Fake cantry 😅 grecce
Says the one with Greek name
Çhams🇦🇱dance stop stealing history
Better stop stealing turkish names Mustafa
Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer:
"Greeks are not real, they have Albanian and Slavic roots".
Greek race is a false ideology, but very well manipulated by them, who are distinguished manipulators and perfidies..No drop of blood flows in the veins of the Christians present in Greece, writes Fallmerayer.
Early in 1833 they sailed for Constantinople by way of Cyprus and Rhodes. In November 1833 Fallmerayer finally set foot in the Morea, where the party remained for a month before travelling north to Attica. There Fallmerayer claimed he was struck by the preponderance of Arvanitika, an Albanian dialect. The party arrived in Italy in February 1834, and returned to Munich in August of the same year.
Upon his return Fallmerayer discovered that the Landshut Lyceum had in the meantime been moved to Freising, and that his position had been eliminated. Behind this early "retirement" lay Fallmerayer's "known convictions, which, particularly in religious matters, are incompatible with the teaching profession."He was instead offered an Ordinarius position as a member of the Bavarian Academy, where his first lecture concerned the "Albanisation" of the population of Attica. His lecture was answered with an attack on his theories by Friedrich Wilhelm Thiersch, and the two opposing lectures led to a controversy in Munich academic circles, as well as in the popular press.
The controversy had a pointedly political dimension, with Thiersch representing the "Idealpolitik" position, according to which Bavaria should support the Greek state, and Fallmerayer advocating a hands-off "Realpolitik." This political polemic was further provoked by the preface to the second volume of Fallmerayer's Geschichte, published in 1836, in which he wrote that the Greek War of Independence was a "purely Shqiptarian (Albanian), not a Hellenic Revolution." He advocated furthermore the replacement of the German monarchy in Greece by a native regime.
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oh that german malaka who’s claims have been disproven many times again and again
Erkek etek giyermi ulan.
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