BRAND NEW DEMOCRACY GAME! - Democracy 4 - Saving Britain!

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  • Democracy 4 is the newest entry in the Democracy series, where you take control of a country and try to turn it around. Given that the game has just entered alpha, it's a great opportunity to give it a shot, and try our hand at running the United Kingdom!
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  • @TheSAWsPlea
    @TheSAWsPlea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    "'Noncompetitive Economy' is probably one of the worst modifiers you can get"
    *Laughs in 'Corporate Exodus'*

    • @Enchie
      @Enchie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or general strike.

  • @marlonbrando1631
    @marlonbrando1631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Holy shit, I have never seen a Let's Play of Democracy in which the player managed to push +60% of the population under the poverty line! Luckily the game currently does not connect the dots between your policies and mass poverty or both the poor and the socialists would be rioting. I honestly don't know what your goal is this series as reducing the National Debt can be done in many ways but one of the worst is just implementing austerity until your country is the poor house of Europe. Even Greece says it feels sorry for your population!

    • @lolfunacount
      @lolfunacount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      As one of those countreis with unemployment of some population at 50% (I think 20% as a whole), I slightly disagree... The goverment is hiding the number well.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I do try!

    • @Enchie
      @Enchie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@orbitalpotato
      Tell that to the starving family that had to eat grandpa to survive.

    • @Kram1032
      @Kram1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I went with a fully Socialist/Liberal government and managed to essentially eliminate poverty outright. The largest part of my population was in the highest disposable income bracket, and the very poorest person in my country was solidly in middle class.
      I'm pretty sure there are balancing issues in this regard as of right now.

    • @Kram1032
      @Kram1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Combine Yeah some of that stuff is definitely overpowered.
      Which is weird because the creator calls himself an "environmentalist capitalist", so you'd think capitalism is the thing that's being biased towards.
      That being said, this alpha generally needs intense balancing right now, and he knows it. If you want to, you can tell him either on twitter or via the game's forum.

  • @michaelsoland3293
    @michaelsoland3293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    50:30 Mans just pulled a California

  • @BrownNProud112
    @BrownNProud112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    increase taxes and slash health care brilliant governing

    • @kingkylotcxxx1992
      @kingkylotcxxx1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well of course

    • @dudenameddave413
      @dudenameddave413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Trust me, the government would be assassinated before they touch the NHS.

    • @frozenwolf6962
      @frozenwolf6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dudenameddave413 I wish... Have you seen the UK gov at the moment

    • @yeetus1398
      @yeetus1398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@frozenwolf6962 yeah lol the uk gov is doing just that at the moment and blaming immigrants and the eu

    • @oppionatedindividual8256
      @oppionatedindividual8256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frozenwolf6962 Yes, because I live here. We have a national slogan of saving and protecting the NHS wtf are you on about.

  • @AndersonBLUE1
    @AndersonBLUE1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was hoping we could see exactly what changes implementing a new policy would do (sliders) before spending political capital on it.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would be really, really useful

  • @lolfunacount
    @lolfunacount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    inb4 potato famine gets a new meaning, cause he acidentally exported all the food. xD

  • @OSKY3033
    @OSKY3033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you know about the game go to 10:30

  • @obadakhalid713
    @obadakhalid713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really hope they add Asian countries like Japan Malaysia maybe Indonesia and Philippines

  • @TheDawsonGamer
    @TheDawsonGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a look of complete disgust when you lowered NHS spending

  • @nunosilva187
    @nunosilva187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    One of the best ways I found of playing the "politics" game is to dramatically increase policing efforts to eliminate unecessary spending from Organized Crime, Crime, Violent Crime, etc. as well as increase spending in health related policies and commuting practices. This way your overall GDP will increase to the point where it eclipses your spending. This comes with the added bonus of having more protection against extremists groups from your policing policies. Another way you can go about it is to increase taxes to almost max in the first 2 years, removing any debt and giving you a big cushion for the future, then you implement the policies I suggested previously without worry of going into debt. Later on you can reduce the raxes and remove the negative opinion modifiers that comes with increased taxes. Have fun playing the game man!
    PS: Universal Basic Income for the win!

    • @Kram1032
      @Kram1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UBI is really good.
      In one run I actually ended up outright cancelling pensions. Had UBI and Social Care maxed though.

    • @nunosilva187
      @nunosilva187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kram1032 my trick to run an effective country is first enacting Flat Income Tax and then repealing (or turn to 0%) the Income Tax and start overturning policies that increase socialism and implementing others that increase GDP and capitalists. Then, to acount for the fact that you have less tax money, you increase police force but repeal others that diminishes liberalism. The best ways to play are conservative/religious/patriot/socialist or liberal/patriot/capitalist. Later on you will have to choose between motorists amd environmentalists/commuters/parents(because of asphma epidemic). I usually choose environmentalists because it increases the environment so much that GDP stops being q factor and the health of your citizens increases drastically, even without state healthcare

    • @Kram1032
      @Kram1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@nunosilva187 I went liberal all the way, more or less organically combining socialist and capitalist policies on top and got to all sorts of bonuses and a mild surplus. My poorest person is solidly in middle class and everybody loves me.
      GDP Health and Education are maxed, Poverty, Homelessness, and Crime do not exist. The only red thing I have (and don't know any way to get rid of) is the Rare Earth Crisis. I also have Egalitarian Society, Private Space Program, High Productivity, and Technological Advantage. Environment is maxed too.
      The only voting blocks I didn't get 100% for are Motorists, Religious people, and Poor people. Because they do not exist. Zero people belong to those groups.
      I'm pretty sure any playstyle can make this possible though.

    • @nunosilva187
      @nunosilva187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kram1032 for the Rate Earth Mining Crisis there is a Rare Earth Mining policy and I think Climate Addaptation Fund reduces it as well as Mars Mission. I think international trade reduces it as well so I always go for max foreign aid because it also reduces the amount of times and severity of global market recessions

    • @Kram1032
      @Kram1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nunosilva187 I have all of those things maxed. Year just isn't kind to it.

  • @BrysonHalley
    @BrysonHalley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    British: We are 1.81 Tn in debt
    Americans: You must have cut a lot of corners

  • @CPT85
    @CPT85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just caught this video. Nice to see it’s at least close to the final stages! 😁👍🏻

  • @oscarclements4282
    @oscarclements4282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve lost count of how many times he said :in this moment in time

  • @naegles9989
    @naegles9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I assume Influence shows how much effect the policy/thing has on other stuff.

  • @garthmcripfist2944
    @garthmcripfist2944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a very unique accent, it sounds like a mixture of Scottish and American :p

  • @that_colin.michell
    @that_colin.michell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Three videos a day.. thank you! :)

  • @chrisswanepoel7389
    @chrisswanepoel7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would watch your content much more gladly if you had some sort of indicator for chronological order within series. Much as I like this game and enjoy your work with your colleagues in the Wholesomeverse, the time taken to find which episode to start this series at makes it easy to give the other series a pass for now.

  • @asxnkmb
    @asxnkmb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always reshuffle cabinet on turn one. You would always need to as its too random. Might as well do it at the start to get the team happier and more experienced.

  • @iainharper3926
    @iainharper3926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Please make a series on this :)

  • @BHNative
    @BHNative 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    D4 looks very interesting!

  • @ijustcantstopit1
    @ijustcantstopit1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they use Bootstrap for the UI?

  • @ahmedshahzad156
    @ahmedshahzad156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you have hurricanes and earthquakes, is it modded?

  • @theenchiladakid1866
    @theenchiladakid1866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's just like real life

  • @Christopher4700
    @Christopher4700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can't increase income tax in brackets? So high earnes has % income tax while low earners has another %. Of course I want a high income tax on low earners to create incentive to be rich

    • @pickleproductions2010
      @pickleproductions2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can implement flat income tax, which is basically just everyone pays a percent of their income without caring about how high that income is, and abolish the progressive tax IIRC, or was that democracy 3?

  • @strailz4302
    @strailz4302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something new in D4: Don't underestimate the usefulness of Quantitative Easing. Its cheap, doesn't require a lot of political capital, and stimulates GDP quite a lot. For a quick fix to help the blow during a low part of the economic cycle. It causes a slight amount of inflation, but if you are smart about it, it shouldn't be much at all.
    Also, don't forget about Public Tax Returns. If there is any policy thats OP, that could be considered one.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should watch the next episode ;)

    • @strailz4302
      @strailz4302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orbitalpotato just did! Glad you found the easy button. I agree that the respiratory illness is hard to cure. Its the dang GDP skyrocketing. Pollution, sweet sweet pollution. *sniffs air deeply*

  • @botfskodand9448
    @botfskodand9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When reshuffling a cabinet, it is generally a bad idea to select ministers who are initially loyal over those who sympathize with loyal voter groups since the latter will become more loyal over time and remain loyal as long as you don't realign yourself with new voter groups.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch me do exactly this in the next episode!

  • @praline2x
    @praline2x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there no inflation measure or central bank function? Total government spending as percent of GDP should be able to be monitored too.

    • @dj7oya
      @dj7oya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is inflation, but it is only mentioned sometimes, i.e. when you are dealing with some economic policies, like "quantitative easing".

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate. Thanks for the upload, it’s gonna swing me one way or the other. Anyway, the point of my comment is this: are there real names mods. The mods don’t. (Either that or I’m terrible at searching one,
    Thanks for rhen honest review and for not saying “like and subscribe” x20.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Firstly, like and subscribe for more xxx_orbitalgamerpotato87_xxx hype videos! Jokes aside, this is an alpha that was given to me by the dev. Basically because it's not on steam yet, it'll be on steam in like 2 weeks, at which point the workshop will be the source of mods (I don't believe there are any now) no doubt they'll be loads when it launches!

  • @haroldmerewether1224
    @haroldmerewether1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Email your MPs this game

  • @ladasodaexplains3355
    @ladasodaexplains3355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does this guy sound like Scott Manley?

  • @mwch4554
    @mwch4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Increasing alcohol tax, should increase crime. People with boot leg and find other ways to get there poisens.

  • @Ivan.A.Trulyuski
    @Ivan.A.Trulyuski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol there is a way without spending money, you can cut payroll tax to zero.

  • @VanilloBumbleboo1981
    @VanilloBumbleboo1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The definition of a barebones "video game". Playing this with actual paper sheets would have been the better solution.

  • @marcgarrett4401
    @marcgarrett4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this version have CO2 tax? More income, better environment. It also affects motorist, but not commuters.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does actually yes, good point

  • @t_mandry
    @t_mandry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are we spending more on foreign aid than our own police

  • @LaserSausage
    @LaserSausage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think about it your opposition party is moatly conservative, religious voters, them having a woman as their candidate is a huge win for liberals and because you're the party candidate they are pleased with your policies

  • @hilding2063
    @hilding2063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instead of lower government spending, you should invest into education and encourage start ups, increasing government revenue on the long run. You don't run a government like a company and cut spending in times of global crisis. Ideally the government has to act opposite to the economic cycle. Neo liberal policies is what you do and this is the reason every country is in a similar mess right now.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no right way of winning in this game :) my way works too

    • @bobsickle2336
      @bobsickle2336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with investing only in the long run is that the changes wont come into play before you get ousted. The game is called Democracy, fixing the country is second place to winning the election. Otherwise the other guys just wont continue your policies and you achieved nothing.

    • @dj7oya
      @dj7oya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobsickle2336 exactly. It's a balance. Sometimes you even "fix" the country but they outvote you anyways. That is the beauty of the game, although I wanted them to let us play for more time than the actual re-election term, in order for us to see what happens in the long run.

  • @fatmanonabike238
    @fatmanonabike238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep the old people happy and middle income earners =winning elections

  • @daniil3815
    @daniil3815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:00 I left the video 😂

  • @jackhenderson2562
    @jackhenderson2562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alcohol abuse is never a problem

  • @scan79
    @scan79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    potato brain

  • @codingmonster6469
    @codingmonster6469 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you bots stop posting inappropriate comments!!!

  • @edwinlee2343
    @edwinlee2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    29:44 I just want to make a socialist utopia, not a police state. Ohh... so a police state.

  • @cheeseymattybob
    @cheeseymattybob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone tell me what the commentator’s accent is? Struggling to pin it down and it’s annoying me! 😂

    • @cheeseymattybob
      @cheeseymattybob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m hearing like Scottish with some Eastern European thrown in? Maybe some Canadian? Plz help I’m usually good at accents !!

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, bud you're real close. I'm glad I'm able to provide a challenge. I am Scottish/born in scotland, but was somewhat uniquely exposed to a variety of accents (including many american/Canadian accents) at a young age through schooling. I like to say I have a messy "international" accent, hope that answers the question!

    • @cheeseymattybob
      @cheeseymattybob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah interesting, maybe I’ll know next time I hear that combination 😂😂

  • @mattc9998
    @mattc9998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It looks disappointing tbh. It just seems like they overhauled the UI and that's it.

    • @ruffknowledge2531
      @ruffknowledge2531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For an Alpha build it's looking pretty good so far imo and is still in development.

    • @JamesLiv17
      @JamesLiv17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definetly not- take a look at the developer blog 👍

    • @arirahikkala
      @arirahikkala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The original plan *was* to just collect up all of the content from the Democracy 3 DLCs and D3: Africa, fix up some technical issues (I recall Unicode support being a big deal to the developer since they needed that in order to make a Chinese or Russian translation), and update the most outdated political issues. They ended up doing that and then also making a bunch of changes, including a UI rework. I'm pretty definitely going to grab the game soon, once the worst pre-alpha bugs have been fixed (though there don't really seem to have been many in the first place, based on dev diaries).

    • @augustusmussolinusi3800
      @augustusmussolinusi3800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has a lot more policies

  • @Frank_havre_creation
    @Frank_havre_creation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, you just acted like most gouvernment... cutting spending.
    This method does not work and just make the country worse in the long run.
    It is better to invest in money generating strategy and work on growing your income.

    • @orbitalpotato
      @orbitalpotato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean sure, but in this game you can get the "Debt Crisis" modifier which is game ending!

  • @humorpalanta
    @humorpalanta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have bad news for you. You cannot save Britain. :P
    Also, is there a chance to delete Brexit in the game? :P

    • @anglewoden
      @anglewoden 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The main problem with Great Britain is people like you. Brexit is a last chance to put GB back on track. When the extreme left wing parties of Labour, Lib Dums or the Nationalist SNP take over then it is game over.

  • @helpfulldeadguy8150
    @helpfulldeadguy8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate how fgb makes conservatives hate you. Conservatives would support this; the ones who would hate you is ethnic minorities specifically muslim males(they have no gender equality in muslim countries barely gets better in western countries where judges let them get away with more. Because Minority.). And before you call me racist look up the muslim female rights advocate(I refuse to call her a feminist because she really isn't (atleast modern feminist)) that is fighting for the same right women fought for in those same countries decades prior.

    • @helpfulldeadguy8150
      @helpfulldeadguy8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Incase that flew over or misunderstood fgb stands for female genital mutilation ban.

    • @comrademathias1754
      @comrademathias1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@helpfulldeadguy8150 didn't a bunch of tories vote against female genital mutilation bans?

    • @helpfulldeadguy8150
      @helpfulldeadguy8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comrademathias1754 I do not know what a torie is, but I assume that is a group in Great Britain. In my country atleast conservatives would approve, because despite 'popular' belief(democrats) conservatives in my country have mothers, wives, sisters, and daughters that they care about. In my country a female genital mutilation ban(if not already present or falling under another law) would get anonymous support.

    • @comrademathias1754
      @comrademathias1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@helpfulldeadguy8150 I see. I wish the same was true for male genital mutilation, but I hear american conservatives love to pander to Israel.

  • @ionizedtooth3206
    @ionizedtooth3206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ewww why can’t I play as the usa

  • @dazzwsmith
    @dazzwsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop repeating yourself. It's really annoying.