I had an M3 and loved the pad and synth sounds. But I upgraded to the Kronos 2 and it’s way better than the M3. Far more editing features and more engines. The MS-20 and Polysix engines are sick!
I just bought the M3 and I just love it the Sequencer is Easier than my Montage and new Fantom the Karma blows both boards away! With the sounds of all three. I'm loving my Productions. I really want a Kronos but I think Korg is phasing it out so I'm going to wait on the next new workstation! Great Demo💯💯💯💯
I agree bout the sequencer on the M3, it's very complete with good editing features. I really like my Montage but the sequencer lacks al of these features. I also own a Kronos 2.. at least there's an edit function for the sequencer but no pianoroll and the cuelist (for arranging parts) is missing. Soundwise the Kronos is much better and it has a larger display but much more information together with smaller fonts (harder to read). Unfortunately my M3 is having problems with the touchdisplay at the moment. Hairdryer helps for the moment.. but don't know if this track will last. Yesterday I ordered a new one that has been recommended in video on YT. Hopefully this will solve it. How is your touchdisplay?
I’m having hard time M3 sequencer. I have Motif XF I using that because super easy to make 16-Chanel MIDI patterns. M3 I have hard time making patterns, maybe because it’s difficult to workflow with my style. In fact I use M3 Karma to record MIDI sequencer patterns to Motof XF lol
They sound a little bit different,that's why I have both 😊👍 the Kronos is more likely to a software synthesizer&the output also cleaner,but M3 also have great sounds&I like the form factor which is like a sound module,I love the keybed on M3 that's why I have the 61 version&for Kronos I have the 73 version, nice content man!
Because m3 is some MB’s while Kronos is gigabytes. That’s pretty much software . Then an ssd drive. M3 however, is great as well. You don’t hear some of m3’s sound in other boards except m50. M3 is uniquely designed as well. I’m a just cool. Like an analog and futuristic look. M3 is very much one of a kind. You can def hear a difference too
They sound pretty close, although not identical. But the Kronos could certainly generate sounds that the M3 couldn't match (as it should for the extra money)
Kronos pianos far outshine those of the M3. That said, I personally find the M3 to be a warmer sounding instrument. They are both very special in their own way.
M3 is not sonically pristine which would be a problem if there weren't a zillion plugins available to spice it up and millions of mix engineers and mastering engineers who can sweeten it up. From a purely sonic perspective, the Roland Jupiter 50 I had before the M3 blows it away; on the other hand, the Jupiter was not particularly inviting or fun, and the M3 is incredibly deep with the sampling capability and sequencer. Then there's Karma which is unique and hours and hours of joy even if you don't completely understand it. M3 used is also half the price of the Kronos, which is loaded with all sorts of bread and butter sounds touring keyboardists appreciate but are way less interesting than lots of VSTIs not to mention all the small hardware synths coming into the scene. I know it's slightly insane to fall for the M3 in 2021 as I have, but I find Karma more inspiring than arpeggiators. Did I mention the keybed is absolutely fantastic? I have the 73-key version, and can't imagine liking the piano-key feel of the Kronos more. Would I kick the Kronos out of bed if one magically appeared in my life? No, but I'm not lusting after one since the M3 is plenty entertaining!
@@solomonjenkins9505 but the korg m3 is not far behind. The difference is marginal, and if you wanted even more realism you can always do a combination of vsts and the m3. I would probably still buy an M3 given how cheap they go for these days over a kronos that's 3k to 4k usd. I'd definitely get the M3 over that nautilus that sells for $3k.
Great Demo! M3 sounds ‘brighter’ Kronos sounds ‘darker’. They both sound great, but I’d say Kronos EP sounds and acoustic presets sound more realistic than M3 acoustic sounds, but I think M3 has better synth and brass sounds. I own M3-88 EXP+ v2.05 with 256 Card. Is worth selling for Kronos? Does Kronos have same Karma arpeggio engine and sound waveform presets as M3? I have lot custom program sounds and combo presets. Can I download my own M3 user presets bank into Kronos? Thank you!
I wouldn’t call it a fair comparison from the first paired alone. But if that’s because there are sounds you could find on one that isn’t on the other, then sure. There will still obviously be a difference.
Todo mundo fala isso vim conferir e, é vdd kkkkk o m3 ja vem que nem os Yamaha, os timbres pronto,e bonito logo de cara... mas kronos tem mecher mais pra ficar a nosso gosto....mas ambos são tops.
m3 is kronos father , possibly is easier at kronos because is easier and pre set witt optimal audio , the m3 is more raw and it takes more work to adjust audio
or what you korg fans think? i also want to know if i can load real life orchestra like the film music type of sounds in to my m3 or is that just for a modern mac or pc?
@@TinManSixtySix the kronos has alot of advantages when you are going to record, create music, create sound, great in studio use... BUT when playing live, THE XS sounds fuller right out of the box. No need to edit and it cut through the mix already
@@SaxyCalzone Montage is just newer model and double the price. You can't go wrong with both. I have Motif XS and it sounds warmer than Montage that has modern color. It all personal preference. All functions almost the same. Your technique playing will make both sound wonderful. Many musician still use Motif XS on stage also the Montage.
Also, M3 touch screen allows Kaoss Pad style sound manipulation (recordable), it also has 8 assignable touch pads, and the M3 sequencer has "Piano Roll" editing capabilities (like a DAW). Kronos doesn't do any of that. Oh, and you can detach the module from the keyboard, making it far more portable. Kronos is amazing, but so also is Korg M3!
Why a thumbs down? The title is in error, what is being compared are sampled sounds where the Kronos excels in synthesis utilizing wave tables, how can one make a comparison?
M3 is just 64 megabytes while kronos is 2 gigs and while the m3 has EDS sound engine, kronos has nine along with a SSD drive. M3 is still a great unique board and for it to be 64 MB compared to the kronos that joker sounds very good. Kronos is simple a next chapter.
Chalk and cheese technology. M3 = PCM only, so quality depends on sample detail same Kronos HD engine. However the Kronos has 8 other engines including the electric pianos and organs (software modelling)
kevin stephen A lot of Korg M3s have screen issues. If buying secondhand make sure it has a new screen. Try to find one with the expansions installed. I have my fantom X maxed out. I would trade it for an Yamaha only not Korg.
Yes kronos sounds better in all piano; ep, clavinet; Organ:.all the electro mechanical things .. they sound the same in all the pcm things [ strings; pad, synth) ... when you apply the virtual analogue they sound different ( Radias and polysix) ... clonewheel is not present on m3 ... my choice for the money and better sound is a m3 88 exp more radias and a gemini desktop ( Mojo tonewheel engine more ep and clavinet phisic engine) ... both used paied as a Korg kronos 61used first generation
normal sounds like piano, clavi, e-poanos shouldnt be compared!! they ALL sound the same...... you should test the system and workflow of the workstations ......................................
The Kronos is a hybrid of both sample and a wave generator where the M3 is sampled based only. However each of them you can manipulate the samples with the built in editor or the PC editor. That said, the Kronos for its price does not possess the power and features as found in the Yamaha MODX. I have 2 M3s and planning on keeping them. I also have the MODX. A note on the MODX vs Kronos: These are both flag ship products from their respective manufacturer, the MODX is the brother of the Montage with only a few limitations. Now compare the price points of both, the Kronos and Montage (both flagship products) and you will come to the conclusion which is the overall better product. The MODX is the better instrument over Korg's flagship, Kronos.
MODX is a scam. The high price is not justified. Keys are made of plastic toy. The worst touch on an 88-key keyboard I have ever touched in my life. Few quality sounds. The rest, old FM sounds, really boring. If you want the sounds of advertising, you have to buy them at abusive prices on third parts. Never in my life a workstation has 5 user manuals. Poorly written and useless. If you find the menu hidden in a torturous user interface, you have to search the Internet. Even in Cubase (same manufacturer) it´s terrible to configure it as a controller. I have been a musician, sound technician and user of synthesizers for 42 years: MODX keyboard garbage!
For me Korg ended dominance when they delisted the triton … In my experience the Oaysis is little different sonically from the M3 and they both to my ears sounds crap ..dynamically lacking for many voicings…shallow lacking in frequency range … limply present in a mix with other instruments , the top line developmental focus seems to have been constructing the boring preset patterns etc rather than the production of great sounding instruments. My Korg M1 piano sounds better than any of the presets in the fore mentioned . Great playing man🙏🏿🦄🎩👏👏
They sound a little bit different,that's why I have both 😊👍 the Kronos is more likely to a software synthesizer&the output is cleaner,but M3 also have great sounds&I like the form factor which is like a sound module,I love the keybed on M3 that's why I have the 61 version&for Kronos I have the 73 version, nice content man!
I have them both; there IS a difference...and that’s why I have them both! It depends on what I’m working on or what feel I’m going for.
I just bought the M3 and so for it is amazing
I had an M3 and loved the pad and synth sounds. But I upgraded to the Kronos 2 and it’s way better than the M3. Far more editing features and more engines. The MS-20 and Polysix engines are sick!
I just bought the M3 and I just love it the Sequencer is Easier than my Montage and new Fantom the Karma blows both boards away! With the sounds of all three. I'm loving my Productions. I really want a Kronos but I think Korg is phasing it out so I'm going to wait on the next new workstation! Great Demo💯💯💯💯
Hopefully Korg doesn't make the Kronos Z or something.....we need something brand new!
A Kronos would do you a great service
I agree bout the sequencer on the M3, it's very complete with good editing features. I really like my Montage but the sequencer lacks al of these features. I also own a Kronos 2.. at least there's an edit function for the sequencer but no pianoroll and the cuelist (for arranging parts) is missing.
Soundwise the Kronos is much better and it has a larger display but much more information together with smaller fonts (harder to read).
Unfortunately my M3 is having problems with the touchdisplay at the moment. Hairdryer helps for the moment.. but don't know if this track will last. Yesterday I ordered a new one that has been recommended in video on YT. Hopefully this will solve it. How is your touchdisplay?
I’m having hard time M3 sequencer. I have Motif XF I using that because super easy to make 16-Chanel MIDI patterns. M3 I have hard time making patterns, maybe because it’s difficult to workflow with my style. In fact I use M3 Karma to record MIDI sequencer patterns to Motof XF lol
They sound a little bit different,that's why I have both 😊👍 the Kronos is more likely to a software synthesizer&the output also cleaner,but M3 also have great sounds&I like the form factor which is like a sound module,I love the keybed on M3 that's why I have the 61 version&for Kronos I have the 73 version, nice content man!
The stereo strings on the M3 sound great. The symphony strings on the Kronos sound like a freshly retaped Mellotron.
Because m3 is some MB’s while Kronos is gigabytes. That’s pretty much software . Then an ssd drive. M3 however, is great as well. You don’t hear some of m3’s sound in other boards except m50. M3 is uniquely designed as well. I’m a just cool. Like an analog and futuristic look. M3 is very much one of a kind. You can def hear a difference too
I like very much the M3 string sound. At general I prefer M3 sweetest sound!
They sound pretty close, although not identical. But the Kronos could certainly generate sounds that the M3 couldn't match (as it should for the extra money)
Kronos pianos far outshine those of the M3. That said, I personally find the M3 to be a warmer sounding instrument. They are both very special in their own way.
M3 is not sonically pristine which would be a problem if there weren't a zillion plugins available to spice it up and millions of mix engineers and mastering engineers who can sweeten it up. From a purely sonic perspective, the Roland Jupiter 50 I had before the M3 blows it away; on the other hand, the Jupiter was not particularly inviting or fun, and the M3 is incredibly deep with the sampling capability and sequencer. Then there's Karma which is unique and hours and hours of joy even if you don't completely understand it. M3 used is also half the price of the Kronos, which is loaded with all sorts of bread and butter sounds touring keyboardists appreciate but are way less interesting than lots of VSTIs not to mention all the small hardware synths coming into the scene. I know it's slightly insane to fall for the M3 in 2021 as I have, but I find Karma more inspiring than arpeggiators. Did I mention the keybed is absolutely fantastic? I have the 73-key version, and can't imagine liking the piano-key feel of the Kronos more. Would I kick the Kronos out of bed if one magically appeared in my life? No, but I'm not lusting after one since the M3 is plenty entertaining!
If you can't hear the difference, buy a Casio Keyboard. You'll save tons of money.
lol over youtube? I mean to my ears personally the kronos sounds better, which is sad because I own an m3, but that's what I hear
@@solomonjenkins9505 but the korg m3 is not far behind. The difference is marginal, and if you wanted even more realism you can always do a combination of vsts and the m3. I would probably still buy an M3 given how cheap they go for these days over a kronos that's 3k to 4k usd. I'd definitely get the M3 over that nautilus that sells for $3k.
And really it doesn't matter anyway. A clicky electric piano sound is available on every keyboard in the world.
Great Demo! M3 sounds ‘brighter’ Kronos sounds ‘darker’. They both sound great, but I’d say Kronos EP sounds and acoustic presets sound more realistic than M3 acoustic sounds, but I think M3 has better synth and brass sounds.
I own M3-88 EXP+ v2.05 with 256 Card. Is worth selling for Kronos?
Does Kronos have same Karma arpeggio engine and sound waveform presets as M3? I have lot custom program sounds and combo presets. Can I download my own M3 user presets bank into Kronos?
Thank you!
I wouldn’t call it a fair comparison from the first paired alone.
But if that’s because there are sounds you could find on one that isn’t on the other, then sure. There will still obviously be a difference.
I love Kronos.
Na minha humilde opinião o M3 é mais bem timbrado de fábrica!!
Concordo!!!
Todo mundo fala isso vim conferir e, é vdd kkkkk o m3 ja vem que nem os Yamaha, os timbres pronto,e bonito logo de cara... mas kronos tem mecher mais pra ficar a nosso gosto....mas ambos são tops.
m3 is kronos father , possibly is easier at kronos because is easier and pre set witt optimal audio , the m3 is more raw and it takes more work to adjust audio
or what you korg fans think? i also want to know if i can load real life orchestra like the film music type of sounds in to my m3 or is that just for a modern mac or pc?
i used to have both, and it has a sound difference.. i sold them both too and bought a motif xs. ✌️✌️
Let go a Kronos for an Xs? Wow. Just a matter of preference? What are the advantages?
@@TinManSixtySix the kronos has alot of advantages when you are going to record, create music, create sound, great in studio use... BUT when playing live, THE XS sounds fuller right out of the box. No need to edit and it cut through the mix already
@@instrumentalistjade8367 how does the Motif stand up against the newer Montage?
@@SaxyCalzone Montage is just newer model and double the price. You can't go wrong with both. I have Motif XS and it sounds warmer than Montage that has modern color. It all personal preference. All functions almost the same. Your technique playing will make both sound wonderful. Many musician still use Motif XS on stage also the Montage.
Why you do that😕
My M3 has a Korg Radias board inside it too. You don't get that engine on Kronos so M3 wins there!
Also, M3 touch screen allows Kaoss Pad style sound manipulation (recordable), it also has 8 assignable touch pads, and the M3 sequencer has "Piano Roll" editing capabilities (like a DAW). Kronos doesn't do any of that. Oh, and you can detach the module from the keyboard, making it far more portable. Kronos is amazing, but so also is Korg M3!
@@allisterainsworth9090 could really do with 🎹 roll on the Kronos!
Why a thumbs down? The title is in error, what is being compared are sampled sounds where the Kronos excels in synthesis utilizing wave tables, how can one make a comparison?
something went wrong during this audio recording. Sounds overdriven at times and clipping.
M3 is just 64 megabytes while kronos is 2 gigs and while the m3 has EDS sound engine, kronos has nine along with a SSD drive. M3 is still a great unique board and for it to be 64 MB compared to the kronos that joker sounds very good. Kronos is simple a next chapter.
The M3 expanded has 640 MB
Are there any differences in their KARMA feature?
Sorry, I don't know enough about that to answer.
Strings on M3 is much better, wow!
i hate to say it but in THIS video the M3 sounds better.
Oh yea I hear a difference
Chalk and cheese technology. M3 = PCM only, so quality depends on sample detail same Kronos HD engine. However the Kronos has 8 other engines including the electric pianos and organs (software modelling)
Precisely, that is why I gave a thumbs down.
Look at the price.It is worth it,m3.
Is M50 better than Kronos ?
M3 straight up sounds better
M3 Better
I have a Roland fantom X6 should I trade it for a kord m3 advice pls 🙏
kevin stephen A lot of Korg M3s have screen issues. If buying secondhand make sure it has a new screen. Try to find one with the expansions installed. I have my fantom X maxed out. I would trade it for an Yamaha only not Korg.
Nah just get an m3 to be a secondary. The fantom piano is slightly better
Korg M3 vs Yamaha Modx please!
Plys sound comparise kronos 1 vs kronos 2 violin
Yes kronos sounds better in all piano; ep, clavinet; Organ:.all the electro mechanical things .. they sound the same in all the pcm things [ strings; pad, synth) ... when you apply the virtual analogue they sound different ( Radias and polysix) ... clonewheel is not present on m3 ... my choice for the money and better sound is a m3 88 exp more radias and a gemini desktop ( Mojo tonewheel engine more ep and clavinet phisic engine) ... both used paied as a Korg kronos 61used first generation
normal sounds like piano, clavi, e-poanos shouldnt be compared!! they ALL sound the same...... you should test the system and workflow of the workstations ......................................
Where is the piano comparison?
i recorded it 3 times, and it was corrupted, or the recording was just unusable.....disappointing
Kronos a lot more realistic. The M3 sounds... quite frankly, I can get them all with my Roland Sonic Cell module.
Sonic Cell is no good for organs, let alone no live pressure.
The Kronos is a hybrid of both sample and a wave generator where the M3 is sampled based only. However each of them you can manipulate the samples with the built in editor or the PC editor. That said, the Kronos for its price does not possess the power and features as found in the Yamaha MODX. I have 2 M3s and planning on keeping them. I also have the MODX. A note on the MODX vs Kronos: These are both flag ship products from their respective manufacturer, the MODX is the brother of the Montage with only a few limitations. Now compare the price points of both, the Kronos and Montage (both flagship products) and you will come to the conclusion which is the overall better product. The MODX is the better instrument over Korg's flagship, Kronos.
MODX is a scam. The high price is not justified. Keys are made of plastic toy. The worst touch on an 88-key keyboard I have ever touched in my life. Few quality sounds. The rest, old FM sounds, really boring. If you want the sounds of advertising, you have to buy them at abusive prices on third parts. Never in my life a workstation has 5 user manuals. Poorly written and useless. If you find the menu hidden in a torturous user interface, you have to search the Internet. Even in Cubase (same manufacturer) it´s terrible to configure it as a controller.
I have been a musician, sound technician and user of synthesizers for 42 years: MODX keyboard garbage!
@@MiguelLluva totally agree. Not sure what the first commentor is listening too. Lol
KRONOS only slightly better.
For me Korg ended dominance when they delisted the triton … In my experience the Oaysis is little different sonically from the M3 and they both to my ears sounds crap ..dynamically lacking for many voicings…shallow lacking in frequency range … limply present in a mix with other instruments , the top line developmental focus seems to have been constructing the boring preset patterns etc rather than the production of great sounding instruments. My Korg M1 piano sounds better than any of the presets in the fore mentioned . Great playing man🙏🏿🦄🎩👏👏
Son solo simples no es de los mismos teclados
Sir can u help me
I have korg m3.can u give me idea tone making in korg m3
They sound a little bit different,that's why I have both 😊👍 the Kronos is more likely to a software synthesizer&the output is cleaner,but M3 also have great sounds&I like the form factor which is like a sound module,I love the keybed on M3 that's why I have the 61 version&for Kronos I have the 73 version, nice content man!