Your Teacher LIED! This Derivative IS Easy

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @NumberNinjaDave
    @NumberNinjaDave  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BONUS Question: In the step where we had the limit as h approaches 0 of (cos(h)-1)/h , what would the limit have been if there was no -1 term?
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  • @bobbilly8821
    @bobbilly8821 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You need to explain where you get the sinh/h limit result to avoid circular reasoning because it is usually proven by L'hopital's which uses the derivative of sin.
    If you want to use that limit result without L'hopital, the next best thing is using the geometric argument+squeeze theorem method, so you might wanna explain that upfront, otherwise this feels a bit shady since the limit is not "easy".

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is not proven by LHopitals. LH rule comes from it. I’m aware of the circular reason and cover it in another video. But we need to be mindful that it’s only circular if you are using LH rule on the limit, which I’m not here. I communicated it’s simply a known squeeze limit theorem.
      Using the formal squeeze limit theorem to prove the limit is outside the scope of this video and would be a bit much to keep the video length like my typical lengths.
      I appreciate the comments though! I’ll consider making a dedicated video on that squeeze limit theorem result

    • @AM-yk5yd
      @AM-yk5yd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's how you get F. If using out of scope with "trust me bro" is allowed for no reason, then it's not even a simple proof - just use Taylor series, where you need no limit, no sin sums, just polynomial derivative.

    • @carultch
      @carultch 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How about this way of doing it? This requires Euler's formula as a starting point. The standard way to prove Euler's formula, is with Taylor series, which would be circular reasoning. But there are alternatives to Taylor series to prove it, that don't require us to know in advance how it differentiate trig functions.
      e^(i*x) = cos(x) + i*sin(x)
      e^(i*x) - e^(-i*x) = [cos(x) + i*sin(x)] - [cos(-x) - i*sin(-x)]
      By symmetry:
      cos(-x) = cos(x)
      sin(-x) = -sin(-x)
      Thus:
      e^(i*x) - e^(-i*x) = 2*i*sin(x)
      Solve for sin(x):
      sin(x) = -i/2 * [e^(i*x) - e^(-i*x)]
      Take derivative, using the derivative of e^x, along with the constant coefficient and chain rules:
      d/dx sin(x) = -i/2 * [i*e^(i*x) + i*e^(-i*x)]
      d/dx sin(x) = 1/2 * [e^(i*x) + e^(-i*x)]
      Looks familiar to what we had earlier for sine, except with a plus sign in the middle. Repeat the same process, adding exponential terms instead of subtracting them.
      e^(i*x) + e^(-i*x) = [cos(x) + i*sin(x)] + [cos(-x) - i*sin(-x)]
      e^(i*x) + e^(-i*x) = 2*cos(x)
      Rearrange to make it look like what we have, for d/dx sin(x):
      1/2*[e^(i*x) + e^(-i*x)] = cos(x)
      Thus:
      d/dx sin(x) = cos(x), QED

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@carultchnicely done!

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AM-yk5yd My videos are broken into smaller tips and tricks and not full lectures. I’ll handle deciding what I want to keep in scope of a video.
      Are you here to actually learn? Because if you’re only here to troll, you can go do that elsewhere and not on my channel.
      I don’t think you read my responses in full, nor watched the video that answered your question on my channel (that’s your homework to find it).
      Constructive conversation is great. Trolling gets you removed.

  • @RahsidAli-g6i
    @RahsidAli-g6i 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Math is very difficult 😮😢

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It can be very tricky! But we can get through it!

  • @cankaankaya5001
    @cankaankaya5001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    photo on the cover is not the thing you solved. dy/dx(sinx) != dsinx/dx.

    • @NumberNinjaDave
      @NumberNinjaDave  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cankaankaya5001 y=sin x though, by substitution. But I appreciate the feedback. I’ll consider making the thumbnail even more clear.