Richard Raffan turns a 9-sided plate for the 15th 4-Ways project
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 เม.ย. 2024
- This 15th 4-Ways project is a plate with a facetted rim with any number of sides. You see all the turning in real time.
4-WAYS comprises Sam Angelo, Mike Peace, Richard Raffan, and Tomislav Tomašić who suggested that having a few turners publish their approach to one project on TH-cam at the same time should be interesting. 4-WAYS publish after noon on the first of each month, US time, which is evening in Europe. For Australasians it’ll be the 2nd. morning of each month. Each video has links to the others.
Tomislav - • Hexagon plate with pop...
Sam - • How I Turned an Octago...
Mike - • Crafting a Unique Wood...
Dear Richard,
Having learned on my own I really appreciate all the “descriptions” of your processes when turning. With your comments on possible mistakes, I understand how and why I do mines, how to avoid catches (why I have problems sometimes and how to improve the design. Thanks so much.
Love the multifaceted with the rim.
Yes I agree, multifaceted rim looks great and the rim on bowl as well.
You certainly had some deign modifications.
I think that you are a wonderful turner and you show us how good you are with every video.
You are getting better with these videos, explanations and solutions are top notch.
Thanks Richard.
A brilliant watch as always+++
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks 😊❤
Very nice Richard.
I once turned a pine ball with very beautiful grain. It was not till later upon completion did I realize that it was VERY out of balance; the left half was saturated with pine sap, making it roll in circles!! Thinking through what you intend to make is always important, so you end up with what you want! Thanks for your detailed explanations! Sometimes, I wonder why you explain torturous derails of a turning, then realize that if you had not, an embarrassing situation would have developed!!
Awsome work, I love simple top platter in this case, and its really nice shaped on the Rim..... Really good work Richard
Thanks, Tomi. It'll be interesting to see how quickly they sell....
I love both versions Richard and would be delighted to be able to turn and gat a finish as good as you. Thanks so much for posting.
I have now watched the other videos Richard and think your version is far superior. If there was a prize then you would have won it.
Good luck 💯 you
Very nice, of to see the other three.
Thankyou, gentlemen, for another four ways video. This ongoing series really helps stimulate creativity in my own turning. After watching all four, and noting differences and different techniques, I have decided That I will try a Walnut bowl with and pentagon edge. Wish me luck.
Very nice job on both plates. Never knew a good method for doing an edged turning, now I do!
I do like the multisided rim. I agree with Mike that an odd number of sides is more interesting. And in this case I'm sure 9 is the best number. I also prefer the more defined bowl interior. All of you have done quite well this month. I wouldn't even think about picking a winner. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Nice!
This was a very interesting 4-ways project and it was really quite instructive seeing how each of you approached it. The facets on your project are quite visually pleasing; really like the approach.
I do like more defined inside shoulder. On the other one, I think the facets add quite a bit of visual interest. Well done on both. Thanks for the two for one offer.
Morning Richard. Thanks for the treat to have with breakfast. Love London Plane, as a Hay Fever sufferer I hate the tree.....but love the wood. 🤣
Looking forward to seeing what the others come up with. x
Wonderful bowls. Lovely lines.
And I love those tables. I've made smaller ones that just drop into the banjo, but I suppose I haven't paid enough attention: these are new to me.
Thanks once again for a wonderful demo.
They both look great. Thanks for sharing your technique using a scraper to finish the bottom of a bowl or platter. I’ve adopted this method and it’s greatly improved the finished surface of my bowls and decreased the time spent turning
Very cool to see you use your spindle gouge like this. Especially after you answered my question about them a while back. As always it's great to watch a master in his craft at work.
Very nice. Unusual to to have odd number of sides. Now to the other participants
Sir, I think you have forgotten more than we will ever know. Thank you.
That spindle gouge looks longer than one half inch!! But not much😂😂😂
These both turned out great. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing this project , I always learn sometink fro your videos .
Very nice project. Thank you!
Thanks both are beautiful
Very nice..
Nice plater I might have a go at that enjoying your channel
Way to go! "Hello, I'm Richard Raffan." No "uh". Meant with affection and great respect.
I'm making an effort - having been made aware!!
This month, you win.
Beatiful work on both of those. I do prefer the one with a more clear rim myself. Love the nine sides. Those old, work-worn tools, lovely. The Waxy Sock fits right in with them. At what distance from the work would you start using longer-handled tools? Many thanks for another entertaining and educational video.
That was the last appearance of the gouge as a gouge. It's due to be transformed into another sort of tool, although what sort has yet to be decided.
I love your work sir, I wish my lathe could handle this stuff
The VL150 is a small lathe, but you can always work on a smaller scale.
I must admit, I like the plate with the defined rim. Agree with 9 facets for a large piece. Are odd number of facets better than even when it comes to design and customer appeal?
I made a number of facetted bowls in 1982-83 with four, five and seven sides. They never sold as well as conventional bowls with which they had to compete on price. Commercially they were a non-starter given the extra time and work involved. I much prefer an odd number of facets.
It was interesting to hear you say when something is kiln dried it is harder than when air dried. Would this also be true of a piece rough turned then dried by successive runs through a microwave?
I've never re-turned a microwaved bowl as I've always had a ready stock of air-seasoned roughed bowls. My understanding is that with wood more than 25mm thick microwave seasoning in a domestic microwave oven is a waste of time, and that has been my experience. I've had a lot of success drying bowls with walls up to 10mm thick.
Thank you Richard. Beautiful work as always. If the Americans call London plane sycamore, what name is used for as sycamore? I didn't know that .
English sycamore is Acer pseudoplatanus.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning Well that was a quick reply, thank's . I find it a bit strange that we ended up with such a different tree for the same names. Thans again for all your videos. Information for the discerning woodturner.😊
I like the one with the more defined interior. I like 9 sides more than the six or 8. That 60 grit sander sure eats wood. How many years have you ben using that spindle gouge, Richard?
That gouge has been around for at least a decade, but this is it's last appearance as a gouge.
I have a question regarding back in your earlier professional days. When you turned production runs off plates and platters. Did you rough turn them like bowls? Or did you use air dried slabs?
I turned 10"x1¼" plates and bread boards in the 1970s out of seasoned Burmese teak, London plane, and English sycamore, all timbers that barely move whilst seasoning. The plane and sycamore were quarter-sawn so if anything the plates went slightly oval rather than warp.
Thank you, Richard. That is very useful information.
I like the faceted edge treatment. Regarding the recess vs tenon issue, why not glue on a waste block tenon that is removed at the end?
As a professional turner, I find glue blocks or double-sided tape far too slow and time consuming. After that, gripping a tenon is always preferable to expanding jaws within a recess because the grip is superior whilst retaining more design options.
You and TT make interesting bottom designs. I like the wide "pillowed" ring on the bottom. Any particular reason for 9 vs another number?
I prefer an odd number of sides. 40 years ago I had a short production run of around 100 pentagonal salad bowls.
Hi Richard. With the same foot detail for this project, why can't you contract the jaws onto the centre as you would prefer rather than expand ?
My aim is always to grip as wide a diameter as possible, either gripping or expanding. The wider the grip the better and the greater the support for the blank or project.
@RichardRaffanwoodturning ok thanks. I understand.
A great 4 ways project and I want to try my own version now!
Unable to find on line how to make one of the templates, particularity interested in making bowls with 9 facets to them.
There are lots of videos on constructing polygons. Here's one: th-cam.com/video/3tqwPJsyRqM/w-d-xo.html. You could also use a protractor having dividing the number of sides into 360°. Nine sides = 36°. You can probably download and print any polygon and use that as a template.
The Spindle gouge are a nice all round tool, we made it with a telescopic handle