Superb footage, great view from Burnley viaduct at 3:40. All industrial with factory chimneys, gasometer etc.. all demolished now & present day site of Burnley college & sports centre. Also at Accrington at the end of the footage the tracks to Haslingden & Stubbins can be seen curving off to the left, these were lifted decades ago unfortunately.
Lived in Accrington from 1973 to 1985 then family moved to London,went to hannah street nursery,then spring hill junior school,then to hollins high school,lived on richmond hill street ,still have distant cousins,some on fountain St,and willows Lane have not seen them for over 5yrs
Ex-Nelsoner here and very familiar with these scenes. Here you go with some details: 0.00 - 0.23 leaving Nelson towards Colne and passes under Walton Lane and the former signal box for Nelson coal yard. 0.23 - 0.49 Train passes over Colne Viaduct and Albert Road and we see the remains of the extensive goods facility at Colne Station. 0.56 - 2.01 Demolition of Colne Goods Shed 2.03 - 3.13 The train passes the coal yard and crosses Hilldrop Road and the site of Chaffers Siding before slowing down for Barkerhouse Road level crossing where the driver would have handed the single line staff to the signalman. We then run parallel to Netherfield Road, the bottom of Commercial Road and enter Nelson Station. 3.14 - 3.19 I am fairly certain this is Daneshouse. 3.20 - end Burnley Viaduct and the approach to Accrington
@@geoffdickinson5903 Was not certain about Daneshouse, the Gas Holders in the area were fairly recently demolished (about 5 years ago - we had letters from National Grid about it). Only ever seen Colne's facilities from the OS map outlines I knew they were extensive - with Colne being on the border with Yorkshire there was an element of competitiveness, including with the Leeds and Liverpool Canal for most traffic - I think the Canal retained quarried stone as goods for some reasons - also the Barnoldswick Branch of the Railway never had useful things like intermediate station owing to Land owners whom were opposed businessmen refusing to grant any sale of Lands, so there must have been some trans-shipment by Road from Colne to the areas to the north, and generally more extensive than the smaller intermediate stations towards Burnley.- I think there were some weaving sheds along what is now Vivary Way in Colne (retail parks now ) that would have been Coal customers ? The Level Crossing I forgot about the one south of the main road into Colne, only thinking of the one on the north side after the railway crosses under the road . I presume in Nelson what is now Morrisons was some kind of heavy manufacturing of some kind.
@@highpath4776 Colne was an end on junction with the Midland Railway and the Lancashire and Yorkshire so not only did each company have its own goods facilities but quite a bit of interchange traffic I think as well as through traffic. Plus the extensive cotton industry in the area in both North and South Valleys of Colne and the whole length of the valley from Colne to Preston required large amounts of coal and raw cotton in and woven cotton out. The station even boasted a 6 road carriage shed and through carriages from Colne to London. Morrisons is indeed on the site of a former cotton mill, Seedhill Mill, owned by JB Battye and Co
@@geoffdickinson5903 Was Colne still a Region Split Midland vs Eastern in BR Days, as the Beeching chop of Colne - Skipton does not make whole sense (yes the Ribble Bus did make a more community connected route but it was quite a long journey compared to rail . and the number of Leeds to Somewhere like Blackpool via Manchester gave different choices of trans pennine route)/ The post for Barnoldswick and Earby in Yorkshire was always routed via Colne, Lancs, Was the Colne - London Service via Leeds ?
it's kinda eerie looking at this...a very gloomy and declining Northern England in no sound whilst down in the south , there's good camera quality , booming business & Sunny Summer weather...
Not really, a lot of the colour film footage in the 1972-1979 period that has passed into the Pathe Collection (this is from a Thames TV documentary on Alex'Hurricane' Higgins - I presume in advance of the Snooker that was broadcast from the ? Guild Hall Theatre in Preston. Others in Pathe have been background / backscene footage, and some london streets footage for other Thames productions - including Bless This House. Either the soundtrack is lost, restricted due to producer copyright, or was all footage intended for a voice over or music playing. Looking again I think the train does arrive into the truncated line a Colne, Lancs - Which at one time had substantial carriage sidings, freight depots and passenger stations - now just a bus shelter platform. The intermediate stations have been avoided showing the station names and most of the architecture, and I think the gasworks near the viaduct at Burnley have only just been dismantled ( but I am not sure if there were two in the area ?) and it appears to show part of an approach to Burnley Barracks station, omitting Rose Grove. Of Course at Accrington the parcel bay and area is now a large Tesco superstore and associated car park. Quite what the voice over said I did not bother looking for, there is more of the footage if you search for Higgins on YT or the Pathe website and I think the documentary exists too, but the footage as stated was not used in the broadcast so there is no clear context for it. The film quality (poss 16mm rather than 35mm), is not that good as I said- even my colour transparencies unless you used slow Agfa 35mm (ASA 64 or lower) film, properly exposed, was either washed out or muddy. There are a couple of travel documentaries existing (one by Wainwright ? , and another locational journalist that took the A1 road route from London to the North , but also covered the change to flats from the Manchester terraces, but indeed not much focused as such on industrial towns - there would have been bits on personalities , and in local ITV and BBC news and current affairs programes but tapes are unlikely to have survived .
@@highpath4776 I was also very much looking forward to someone commenting on this video! I think I managed to locate most of the places by the split below: 0:01 - Nelson, the first Road the train is crossing under is Walton Lane (I recognised some of the original buildings on Google Maps) 0:23 - Burnley (heading east, looking from the right side of the viaduct) judging by the landscape and some of the remaining mills today that I’ve seen in pictures, though the view changed significantly. 2:03 - Nelson, the train is crossing over Hallam Rd. 2:41 is Nelson, again most houses demolished by now, and townscape looks different. 3:12 - No idea. 3:21 - Burnley (heading west, looking from the right side of the viaduct) You would supposedly see Burnley College on that side today. 4:11 - Accrington Station *Fun fact - I’m a foreigner (born in ‘93), and I have never seen these places in real life other than pictures and Google Maps. I’m just fascinated by the architecture of these towns :)
@@justkp1426 3.12Is either (and?) Colne on the Viaduct going one way or the other, then)(later) is Brierfield if thats the one coming in by the Signal Box and onto the level crossing (see Google Maps for That), but could be anywhere from there through Reedley Meadows past the Leeds-Liverpool Canal before nearing Burnley (what is now Sainsburys but would have been the Prestige cookware works, Not sure if we saw the passing through Burnley Barracks and Rose Grove Sidings before getting to the approach to Accrington. The high level start of film is probably Colne and the viaduct passing on from that.
@@highpath4776 Smashing!! I love this thread! I think the last missing piece now is only the building being knocked down at 0:55 . I could make out that the script on the wall reads “Railways Dep…”
@@justkp1426 I am thinking (the film shoots are not quite in geographical order), it is Colne, see disused stations website for some of the maps as the freight and station was extensive and is the only place the train would dwell for so long before its return journey. On part of the site that is already cleared is now a swimming pool/leisure centre.
Superb footage, great view from Burnley viaduct at 3:40. All industrial with factory chimneys, gasometer etc.. all demolished now & present day site of Burnley college & sports centre.
Also at Accrington at the end of the footage the tracks to Haslingden & Stubbins can be seen curving off to the left, these were lifted decades ago unfortunately.
Lived in Accrington from 1973 to 1985 then family moved to London,went to hannah street nursery,then spring hill junior school,then to hollins high school,lived on richmond hill street ,still have distant cousins,some on fountain St,and willows Lane have not seen them for over 5yrs
The goods shed being demolished at 1:21 was at Colne Station
Back mirror nostalgia. Lovely.
I see the clapperboard said the reporter was Hurricane Higgins. Only caught a glimpse of the face though.
Interesting, guess Accrington Before the train arrived at the station. Dont know if the other areas were Blackburn or Burnley or closer to Accrington
Finally a comment!!
Ex-Nelsoner here and very familiar with these scenes. Here you go with some details:
0.00 - 0.23 leaving Nelson towards Colne and passes under Walton Lane and the former signal box for Nelson coal yard.
0.23 - 0.49 Train passes over Colne Viaduct and Albert Road and we see the remains of the extensive goods facility at Colne Station.
0.56 - 2.01 Demolition of Colne Goods Shed
2.03 - 3.13 The train passes the coal yard and crosses Hilldrop Road and the site of Chaffers Siding before slowing down for Barkerhouse Road level crossing where the driver would have handed the single line staff to the signalman. We then run parallel to Netherfield Road, the bottom of Commercial Road and enter Nelson Station.
3.14 - 3.19 I am fairly certain this is Daneshouse.
3.20 - end Burnley Viaduct and the approach to Accrington
@@geoffdickinson5903 Was not certain about Daneshouse, the Gas Holders in the area were fairly recently demolished (about 5 years ago - we had letters from National Grid about it). Only ever seen Colne's facilities from the OS map outlines I knew they were extensive - with Colne being on the border with Yorkshire there was an element of competitiveness, including with the Leeds and Liverpool Canal for most traffic - I think the Canal retained quarried stone as goods for some reasons - also the Barnoldswick Branch of the Railway never had useful things like intermediate station owing to Land owners whom were opposed businessmen refusing to grant any sale of Lands, so there must have been some trans-shipment by Road from Colne to the areas to the north, and generally more extensive than the smaller intermediate stations towards Burnley.- I think there were some weaving sheds along what is now Vivary Way in Colne (retail parks now ) that would have been Coal customers ? The Level Crossing I forgot about the one south of the main road into Colne, only thinking of the one on the north side after the railway crosses under the road . I presume in Nelson what is now Morrisons was some kind of heavy manufacturing of some kind.
@@highpath4776 Colne was an end on junction with the Midland Railway and the Lancashire and Yorkshire so not only did each company have its own goods facilities but quite a bit of interchange traffic I think as well as through traffic. Plus the extensive cotton industry in the area in both North and South Valleys of Colne and the whole length of the valley from Colne to Preston required large amounts of coal and raw cotton in and woven cotton out. The station even boasted a 6 road carriage shed and through carriages from Colne to London. Morrisons is indeed on the site of a former cotton mill, Seedhill Mill, owned by JB Battye and Co
@@geoffdickinson5903 Was Colne still a Region Split Midland vs Eastern in BR Days, as the Beeching chop of Colne - Skipton does not make whole sense (yes the Ribble Bus did make a more community connected route but it was quite a long journey compared to rail . and the number of Leeds to Somewhere like Blackpool via Manchester gave different choices of trans pennine route)/ The post for Barnoldswick and Earby in Yorkshire was always routed via Colne, Lancs, Was the Colne - London Service via Leeds ?
It’s grim up north
it's kinda eerie looking at this...a very gloomy and declining Northern England in no sound whilst down in the south , there's good camera quality , booming business & Sunny Summer weather...
Not really, a lot of the colour film footage in the 1972-1979 period that has passed into the Pathe Collection (this is from a Thames TV documentary on Alex'Hurricane' Higgins - I presume in advance of the Snooker that was broadcast from the ? Guild Hall Theatre in Preston. Others in Pathe have been background / backscene footage, and some london streets footage for other Thames productions - including Bless This House. Either the soundtrack is lost, restricted due to producer copyright, or was all footage intended for a voice over or music playing. Looking again I think the train does arrive into the truncated line a Colne, Lancs - Which at one time had substantial carriage sidings, freight depots and passenger stations - now just a bus shelter platform. The intermediate stations have been avoided showing the station names and most of the architecture, and I think the gasworks near the viaduct at Burnley have only just been dismantled ( but I am not sure if there were two in the area ?) and it appears to show part of an approach to Burnley Barracks station, omitting Rose Grove. Of Course at Accrington the parcel bay and area is now a large Tesco superstore and associated car park. Quite what the voice over said I did not bother looking for, there is more of the footage if you search for Higgins on YT or the Pathe website and I think the documentary exists too, but the footage as stated was not used in the broadcast so there is no clear context for it. The film quality (poss 16mm rather than 35mm), is not that good as I said- even my colour transparencies unless you used slow Agfa 35mm (ASA 64 or lower) film, properly exposed, was either washed out or muddy. There are a couple of travel documentaries existing (one by Wainwright ? , and another locational journalist that took the A1 road route from London to the North , but also covered the change to flats from the Manchester terraces, but indeed not much focused as such on industrial towns - there would have been bits on personalities , and in local ITV and BBC news and current affairs programes but tapes are unlikely to have survived .
@@highpath4776 I was also very much looking forward to someone commenting on this video! I think I managed to locate most of the places by the split below:
0:01 - Nelson, the first Road the train is crossing under is Walton Lane (I recognised some of the original buildings on Google Maps)
0:23 - Burnley (heading east, looking from the right side of the viaduct) judging by the landscape and some of the remaining mills today that I’ve seen in pictures, though the view changed significantly.
2:03 - Nelson, the train is crossing over Hallam Rd.
2:41 is Nelson, again most houses demolished by now, and townscape looks different.
3:12 - No idea.
3:21 - Burnley (heading west, looking from the right side of the viaduct) You would supposedly see Burnley College on that side today.
4:11 - Accrington Station
*Fun fact - I’m a foreigner (born in ‘93), and I have never seen these places in real life other than pictures and Google Maps. I’m just fascinated by the architecture of these towns :)
@@justkp1426 3.12Is either (and?) Colne on the Viaduct going one way or the other, then)(later) is Brierfield if thats the one coming in by the Signal Box and onto the level crossing (see Google Maps for That), but could be anywhere from there through Reedley Meadows past the Leeds-Liverpool Canal before nearing Burnley (what is now Sainsburys but would have been the Prestige cookware works, Not sure if we saw the passing through Burnley Barracks and Rose Grove Sidings before getting to the approach to Accrington. The high level start of film is probably Colne and the viaduct passing on from that.
@@highpath4776 Smashing!! I love this thread! I think the last missing piece now is only the building being knocked down at 0:55 . I could make out that the script on the wall reads “Railways Dep…”
@@justkp1426 I am thinking (the film shoots are not quite in geographical order), it is Colne, see disused stations website for some of the maps as the freight and station was extensive and is the only place the train would dwell for so long before its return journey. On part of the site that is already cleared is now a swimming pool/leisure centre.
Doesn’t look any better now
DO NOT LEAN OUT OF THE WINDOW.