The character of Johnny Venture is an icon of the 70s fully realized in all of his humanity. I give a lot of credit to the writers and actors for doing that in the context of a sitcom. As many commentators on here have said they actually know guys like that in real life and this reminded them of those guys.
@@stephaniestanley8041Deep down, The Johnny Venture’s of the world 🌎 are really nice & caring guys under the surface!! Their pushiness is only a defense mechanism. I saw it in the 70’s & 80’s in clubs!!
Brenda looks so pretty in this episode. Like her long hair and really like her outfit. The clothes and hair in Season 4 are way above average. It's amazing how pristine Johnny's white tux is after his wanderings, especially considering how filthy his trench coat is. Ah, Hollywood!
I really thought I had watched all five seasons of Rhoda when it aired but gees I do not remember her ever being as thin as she is here. she looks good but almost too thin. Wow, I miss this show...really loved it and MTM too.
She looks anorexic. A close female friend did the same. She was extremely heavy, went to Weight Watchers. But she is now 10 pounds underweight. She thinks she looks great but she doesn't. My sister did the same thing. The 2 of them look like skeletons with a thin layer of skin. Siggghhh...
I always found it interesting that they were able to incorporate not one but two Disney-type characters onto "Rhoda" - Nick Lobo and Johnny Venture. They kinda pushed the envelope as far as their believability but it worked quite well somehow. Richard Masur and Nick Lobo played the parts really well and they kept having them back for more episodes.
Why did every character have to be a failure? I liked Johnny being over the top, sending Rhoda diamonds and being famous and having money. Why couldn't he have been good at what he did? I liked him! If he had finally swept Rhoda off her feet I would have loved it.
Thank you for mentioning the too skinny thing. At the start of season 4 you know a dramatic weight loss she looks anorexic. I wonder if it was stress. I mean I think Valerie was beautiful like any size I never thought she was overweight ever.
What would Johnny do with a wireless mic? He's probably forget and go to spin it and knock someone out. XD haha What would he do with a mic on his cheek? He'd go crazy with nothing to hold in his hands.
OMG, I just noticed that Johnny's shirt has a couple of rows of blue ruffles (19:42). Thank goodness, I never saw such a shirt in real life back in the days when I went to proms and formal dances. Don't think I could've stifled the laughter.
In the late 70s I remember powder blue tuxedo's with matching cumberbunds and ruffled shirts and nobody laughed. Not at our high school. The 70s sported some real flouncy blouses for awhile.
Sure did! It always feels like a blast of very hot wind in my face when I unexpectedly see them pictured in pre-9/11 TV shows and films. Good to see them, but bittersweet and gut-wrenching. I consider myself (as a visitor to NYC) fortunate to have actually visited them and to have dined at Windows On The World. New York City! Nothing remotely like it anywhere!
The twin towers were also in "Saturday Night Fever" for a few seconds. The north tower still had the original shorter mast--the big one was installed in 1978. I went to NYC in 1979, to celebrate New Year's eve in Times Square, and went to both towers--got lots of pics from the South tower observation, and from inside and from ground level. So sad to remember that awful day when they ceased to exist. I also had dinner one night at Windows On the World. What a view from there--not to ever be forgotten.
hahaha At the very beginning when the camera opens on Brenda, her necklace is hanging on her left side as she's flipping through the book. She casually reaches up and quickly puts the necklace back in the center. XD Funny.
Johnny Venture is a stud, too bad he and Rhonda were not paired together for the remainder of the series' run, maybe it would have lasted longer. Johnny was much funnier and interesting than Joe, a colorful character that could have been developed.
Johnny Venture was cute, and that thick hair! Imagine sweeping your fingers through it. That white and silver outfit was sure bright that he wore. Too bad he couldn't be humble and loyal, in a crazy way I think he and Rhoda would make a good couple. She could help keep him on track, and he could help her loosen up.
Can you imagine what it would be like if Johnny Venture was to make his solo performance in the 21st century. He would be all over TMZ and Gawker for months. His career would be over and this single one performance would be commented by every entertainment critic and news contributor from Jay Sherman (1994's The Critic) to CNN and Fox News from within the borders of the country. Perhaps even beyond across the pond to United Kingdom
Yes, but he existed in the pre-politically correct world of the 20th Century, before hi tech replaced emotions and people were still human rather than robots.
Michael Delano was working in Vegas when he was cast as Johnny Venture on Rhoda, and he is an actual nightclub entertainer in LasVegas to this day. th-cam.com/video/0sbl1Q_2X3Q/w-d-xo.html
10:18 They threw in those weird Gary moments. It seemed so random and out of place. "Hey, Gary tags along with the girls, but he isn't gay." The '70s, man.
Agreed. Makes me sad for all the time and energy she wasted on trying to be someone else's "ideal" of feminine beauty. This ain't it. She was perfect as she was.
Kate Moffett-Polacci It wasn't his ego that was damaged. It was his self esteem. Rhoda just him a shoulder to cry on even if didn't cry like a little girl.
I don't know how Rhoda's honesty (even about her own self-admitted neuroses) could destroy any male ego. She was ahead of her time: out spoken, unafraid to admit her insecurities and fears while still being sexy and beautiful. Women would be lucky to have her for a friend (like MTM who spun off her series) and any decent man would be lucky to have her. The comments focusing on her thinness or heaviness seem pretty shallow and vapid compared to those remarks about her true character, which Valerie Harper consistently elevated to admirable heights.
Those pics they used of her in the early episodes of season 4 during the first few moments of the opening credits.. were awful. She looked very emaciated and sickly.. Looks like they amended them from the mid season 4 onwards to healthier fuller faced with some colour in her cheeks.
She said in this episode, "He's different. One doesn't meet someone like Johnny every day of the week," -- and maybe it was her sieve of an ego, that was hurting because there was no one but Johnny interested in her.
Johnny was obnoxious, but Rhoda could have gone out with him as a friend.He was cute when he was just being himself and not all 'dolled up'. I like Brenda's hair in this ep. I wonder how Valerie lost so much weight.
Johnny actually would have been very good with Rhoda.. much better than Joe.. the drip.. Joe was boring & tough to watch.. Johnny adored Rhoda.. Joe did NOT!!
That microphone wouldn't last but 10 or twenty shows before the wires started breaking. I dated a professional musician for 5 years. They were very careful with their cords and mics. They did a good show, not this corny cliche' Vegas act stuff.
Rhoda is such a critic, and often makes huge ordeals out of nothing.Johnny is a big dork, but he seems to have cared about Rhoda, in his own weird way.I never liked that lounge music, myself.It always seemed so corny, especially how the singers acted onstage.I always liked Sinatra and Dean Martin, those 2 were superstars and had style, plus they weren't dorks.LOL.Rhoda looks like she went on a crash diet and lost too much weight too soon.I never thought she or Brenda were overweight at anytime.
I was in my teens when this show was new, and I watched all the eps. Johnny was cute but a bore. Joe, Rhoda's former husband, was cute. I always liked Benny, too.Brenda was cute with her hair in twin braids.I like her hair long, as it was before they left Rhoda's apt. I bet Rhoda felt foolish when she stood up at the concert, thinking Johnny would mention her.
I was in my late 20s and I could not STAND Johnny, except for the "Mystery Man" episode. When I saw it again later on, and now, I absolutely love Michael's characterization of Johnny. He appears to have had such a good time. I really liked Joe, too. I also didn't care for Nick until I saw Richard Masur as Anne's boyfriend on One Day At a Time, and I grew to appreciate Richard's characterization of Nick characterization as well. I liked the character of Rhoda better on MTM than on her own show but that's hindsight. I do think I bailed before the end of the series originally.
I dislike that character Johnny. The writers must have finished with MTMS and they had gone stale with Rhoda episodes. Joe was a much better supporting character for Rhoda if the they had made him more interesting for Rhoda and the viewers.
Johnny stands up to her. He's her equal and she doesn't like it. She tries to destroy him, almost succeeds, and he turns it around in his own favor. He is terrific!
What the backstory to all this is, is the hatred of the Rock-and-Roll illiterate generation for the Great American Songbook that came before and continues, if hidden. Johnny represents Entertainment, which saw itself rightly as serving a semi-Divine purpose, of uplifting the audience. To replace it, you have evil rock demons serving themselves and their drug-addled libidos. Or drug-devouring disco dippies. That's what Rhoda is representing, she is the dishonest one. Brenda and Gary appreciate him.
@Konga 5000 Johnny Venture may have been a cartoon character but he did represent lounge lizards (and to a degree, singer Tom Jones who always wore that huge cross and several rings, and who had a lot of sex after his shows with willing audience participants). I was in my late 20s when this was aired originally and I did NOT like Johnny, but now as a 70+ person, I find this characterization delicious. Michael appears to have had such a good time doing it, every time he appeared. I don't see that there really was anywhere to take him and her after that, though.
The 70's were so much more in real life, believe me. We felt free, had good music, good TV, we went OUTSIDE in sun, snow, played in puddles in the spring rain and had the best drugs, clothes and more than u must've missed out on
The sign of a good actor-all his episodes are interesting.
Aww, Johnny is cute when he's depressed! Actually attractive when he's being humble.
was something real there.Johnny would've been perfect for Rhoda, when he was being Sydney and poured his heart out, there was real chemistry there.
From what I read, he was considered originally for the role of Joe
Awww, the real Johnny was so nice. Also, I think he looked better unshaven.
I love Gary and his outfit, soooooo sharp😍. Valerie we love you, we miss you😢. Make them laugh in heaven. Peace and Love✌❤
Johnny Venture episodes are my most favorite.🎤
She was such a beautiful lady.
Stunningly beautiful. The insecurities make no sense. The perm wasn't very good but other than that Valerie was a gorgeous woman.
Yes, she was !
Who
The character of Johnny Venture is an icon of the 70s fully realized in all of his humanity. I give a lot of credit to the writers and actors for doing that in the context of a sitcom. As many commentators on here have said they actually know guys like that in real life and this reminded them of those guys.
And I dated one
@@stephaniestanley8041 Oh man would I love to hear more details on that!
@@stephaniestanley8041Deep down, The Johnny Venture’s of the world 🌎 are really nice & caring guys under the surface!! Their pushiness is only a defense mechanism. I saw it in the 70’s & 80’s in clubs!!
Was also good in Oceans 11
Brenda looks so pretty in this episode. Like her long hair and really like her outfit. The clothes and hair in Season 4 are way above average.
It's amazing how pristine Johnny's white tux is after his wanderings, especially considering how filthy his trench coat is. Ah, Hollywood!
' Brenda's ' hair style was not any different than she usually wore it..
her outfit was gorgeous as she was going out.
Johnny is 79 years old now - still onstage - I hear.😁
Also gave a good performance in Oceans 11
I loved this episode.
That “Goodbye Sydney” hit home...💜🔥🎶
Love Johnny 💖 Justice for Johnny .
I really thought I had watched all five seasons of Rhoda when it aired but gees I do not remember her ever being as thin as she is here. she looks good but almost too thin. Wow, I miss this show...really loved it and MTM too.
She looks anorexic.
A close female friend did the same. She was extremely heavy, went to Weight Watchers. But she is now 10 pounds underweight. She thinks she looks great but she doesn't.
My sister did the same thing. The 2 of them look like skeletons with a thin layer of skin. Siggghhh...
I always found it interesting that they were able to incorporate not one but two Disney-type characters onto "Rhoda" - Nick Lobo and Johnny Venture. They kinda pushed the envelope as far as their believability but it worked quite well somehow. Richard Masur and Nick Lobo played the parts really well and they kept having them back for more episodes.
Johnny is great. The last thing I saw him in OCEAN’S 11!!! Can’t get him out of VEGAS❤️
He had great talent. Not everyone can hit that many flat notes😊.
Exactly
Still better than Michael Bubllues
Johnny Venture suddenly morphed into Tony Orlando and Dawn.
More like Tony Orlando and Dusk
The actor was just perfect in this role.
They are both gorgeous
Thank so very much for listings. Nice!
Johnny Venture wears more jewelry than any woman I know.
Why did every character have to be a failure? I liked Johnny being over the top, sending Rhoda diamonds and being famous and having money. Why couldn't he have been good at what he did? I liked him! If he had finally swept Rhoda off her feet I would have loved it.
That’s why Rhoda was such a tough show yo watch just woe from everyone…..Joe was lucky he got out when he did.
Vallerie got way too thin.
i love Rhoda's dress at the night club and I love her apple t-shirt!
She's too skinny, even for the 70's, but her style is always fab.
Thank you for mentioning the too skinny thing. At the start of season 4 you know a dramatic weight loss she looks anorexic. I wonder if it was stress. I mean I think Valerie was beautiful like any size I never thought she was overweight ever.
Yes too skinny in this episode.
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Valerie Harper was overweight but she did go from one extreme to the next.
@@eloiseockert6561 she looks like an emaciated person in this episode. She was never grossly overweight. She was a beautiful woman Inside and Out.
@@ladyrose7793 You are sooo right!!! she is a stick!!!
The Towers at 21:04 😥
I like how they tried to update the theme with a little then trendy disco funk! 😂
Just watching old Rhoda episodes, it’s amazing how much Rhoda reminds me of a girl I dated years ago. Looks and personality.
What would Johnny do with a wireless mic? He's probably forget and go to spin it and knock someone out. XD haha What would he do with a mic on his cheek? He'd go crazy with nothing to hold in his hands.
I feel like he is the character who would have found something to hold in his hands, and it could have been much worse than the mic.....
They loved the word terrific
@21:04--the Twin Towers. Made it clear this was a whole other, bygone era, never to be repeated. Wow.
Brenda's a true hippie love ya honey
Johnnie venture reminds me of Eric Estrada ! thanks
I love her dress!,
Well ... I never did get to hear the disco version of Ave Maria ... oh well can't have everything can we ?
I know...it upset me too
@Mark Thompson yes I am imagining this to a four on the four beat and some heavy wah wah with the odd disco lick thrown in on bass !
OMG, I just noticed that Johnny's shirt has a couple of rows of blue ruffles (19:42). Thank goodness, I never saw such a shirt in real life back in the days when I went to proms and formal dances. Don't think I could've stifled the laughter.
In the late 70s I remember powder blue tuxedo's with matching cumberbunds and ruffled shirts and nobody laughed. Not at our high school. The 70s sported some real flouncy blouses for awhile.
My groom & his groomsmen wore those shirts in 1975.
Why wait for any man i get off at 8 😂
Cute episode. Did you notice the twin towers in the background (21 minutes in)
Sure did! It always feels like a blast of very hot wind in my face when I unexpectedly see them pictured in pre-9/11 TV shows and films. Good to see them, but bittersweet and gut-wrenching. I consider myself (as a visitor to NYC) fortunate to have actually visited them and to have dined at Windows On The World. New York City! Nothing remotely like it anywhere!
***** I think they were officially completed in '76. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I do believe you're right about the South Tower.
Meir Wise I'm always on the lookout for those and old movies and TV shows so sad but yet a remembrance
The twin towers were also in "Saturday Night Fever" for a few seconds. The north tower still had the original shorter mast--the big one was installed in 1978. I went to NYC in 1979, to celebrate New Year's eve in Times Square, and went to both towers--got lots of pics from the South tower observation, and from inside and from ground level. So sad to remember that awful day when they ceased to exist. I also had dinner one night at Windows On the World. What a view from there--not to ever be forgotten.
I'm so sorry for the loss , I'm from Scotland and we mourned for you too , all the best xx
The pictures of Valery in the beginning credits are much better than the previous ones
21:04. View of the Twin Towers that would have been brand new.
At the time, this skyline was four years old. Towers went up in '73. Someone please correct me if this is incorrect.
@@eduardo_corrochioyou’re correct little Gringo!! The idea for the towers was actually thought of by Nelson Rockefeller in the late 50’s!!
Towers went up in 70 I think
I LIKE HIM IN THE OTHER EPISODE WHEN HER AND BRENDA WENT TO VEGAS.
Poor Johnny!!! His solo flight crashed.
hahaha At the very beginning when the camera opens on Brenda, her necklace is hanging on her left side as she's flipping through the book. She casually reaches up and quickly puts the necklace back in the center. XD Funny.
Emily Edwards good eye!! Lol
Johnny Venture is a stud, too bad he and Rhonda were not paired together for the remainder of the series' run, maybe it would have lasted longer. Johnny was much funnier and interesting than Joe, a colorful character that could have been developed.
They would have been a better match too. He was fun and kind
Johnny Venture was cute, and that thick hair! Imagine sweeping your fingers through it. That white and silver outfit was sure bright that he wore. Too bad he couldn't be humble and loyal, in a crazy way I think he and Rhoda would make a good couple. She could help keep him on track, and he could help her loosen up.
Rhodas dress omg
The harlettes.❤rip.
Can you imagine what it would be like if Johnny Venture was to make his solo performance in the 21st century. He would be all over TMZ and Gawker for months. His career would be over and this single one performance would be commented by every entertainment critic and news contributor from Jay Sherman (1994's The Critic) to CNN and Fox News from within the borders of the country. Perhaps even beyond across the pond to United Kingdom
Yes, but he existed in the pre-politically correct world of the 20th Century, before hi tech replaced emotions and people were still human rather than robots.
Michael Delano was working in Vegas when he was cast as Johnny Venture on Rhoda, and he is an actual nightclub entertainer in LasVegas to this day.
th-cam.com/video/0sbl1Q_2X3Q/w-d-xo.html
9:29 Celine Dion actually did! - "A-ve Muhr-ia..."
Sergio Alférez. 🙃😂
10:18 They threw in those weird Gary moments. It seemed so random and out of place.
"Hey, Gary tags along with the girls, but he isn't gay."
The '70s, man.
Rhoda looks so thin..too thin
and her makeup too pale and severe...not flattering:(
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She looks great in those jeans.
She does look too thin. Her arms look really thin. She was always beautiful in the face but here it has a gaunt look.
Valerie is way too thin, to the point of looking ill.
Agreed. Makes me sad for all the time and energy she wasted on trying to be someone else's "ideal" of feminine beauty. This ain't it. She was perfect as she was.
Purple jumpsuit huh? Maybe Prince was watchin this before he was Prince. We'll never know will we.😏
I like the original opener,la la la
That 70s Show really styled Jackie Burkhart after Rhoda! Very cool to compare
Just think, while Johnny Venture was doing his thing in New York, the Sex Pistols were happening in London.
Thumbs down ??? What !!! No way !!!!!
This was supposed to be a 'magnificence,' performance!
I love Rhoda, but boy does she spend a lot of time repairing men's egos!
She can boost something of mine too. HEYNOWWW!!!
Kate Moffett-Polacci It wasn't his ego that was damaged. It was his self esteem. Rhoda just him a shoulder to cry on even if didn't cry like a little girl.
After destroying them.
I don't know how Rhoda's honesty (even about her own self-admitted neuroses) could destroy any male ego. She was ahead of her time: out spoken, unafraid to admit her insecurities and fears while still being sexy and beautiful. Women would be lucky to have her for a friend (like MTM who spun off her series) and any decent man would be lucky to have her. The comments focusing on her thinness or heaviness seem pretty shallow and vapid compared to those remarks about her true character, which Valerie Harper consistently elevated to admirable heights.
Johnny Sultan !😅
Those pics they used of her in the early episodes of season 4 during the first few moments of the opening credits.. were awful. She looked very emaciated and sickly.. Looks like they amended them from the mid season 4 onwards to healthier fuller faced with some colour in her cheeks.
He still here solo fly two is more and shit lots. Mr Caine . He probably some what like his A g r ma lol 🌰 17.5
if Rhoda doesn't like him, why does she go out with him and accept his invitation to Vegas...
Vegas was a business trip for her.
She said in this episode, "He's different. One doesn't meet someone like Johnny every day of the week," -- and maybe it was her sieve of an ego, that was hurting because there was no one but Johnny interested in her.
Johnny and like Eric Estrada could pass for brothers
Yet, his suit remains sparkling white after all thoes days🤫 😶🤭🤐🤨😐
Poor Johnny
Oh, he can sing!
Too bad he vouldn't stay sincere.
I think Rhoda began feeling an attraction but yhen he did s turnaround back.
So sad.
Johnny was obnoxious, but Rhoda could have gone out with him as a friend.He was cute when he was just being himself and not all 'dolled up'. I like Brenda's hair in this ep. I wonder how Valerie lost so much weight.
Johnny Sultan 😅
He learned he can do “humble” why can’t he be just be humble. Elvis wanna be.
Harper was way too skinny here?? She was so HOT on Mary Tyler Moore!! & 1st season of her own show!!
What Valérie Harper did to herself???? she looked sick!! too skinny!
A white tony Orlando. Lol. Sing tie a yellow ribbon.
Johnny actually would have been very good with Rhoda.. much better than Joe.. the drip.. Joe was boring & tough to watch.. Johnny adored Rhoda.. Joe did NOT!!
ah, she did kind of like him...
And not having 2 back up singers would not change his ability to sing. Silly episode. A true singer can sing without even any music.
Johnny Venture is such a copy of all the bad singers playing with his microphone.
That microphone wouldn't last but 10 or twenty shows before the wires started breaking. I dated a professional musician for 5 years. They were very careful with their cords and mics. They did a good show, not this corny cliche' Vegas act stuff.
BRENDA AND RHODA BOTH ARE SLIM ON THIS EPISODE.
This is when Rhoda show when off the Rails. It is just stupid.
Venture was cute, and had pretty hair. If he was not such an arrogant dork, he'd be good for Rhoda.He should have been on more eps.
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Rhoda is such a critic, and often makes huge ordeals out of nothing.Johnny is a big dork, but he seems to have cared about Rhoda, in his own weird way.I never liked that lounge music, myself.It always seemed so corny, especially how the singers acted onstage.I always liked Sinatra and Dean Martin, those 2 were superstars and had style, plus they weren't dorks.LOL.Rhoda looks like she went on a crash diet and lost too much weight too soon.I never thought she or Brenda were overweight at anytime.
I was in my teens when this show was new, and I watched all the eps. Johnny was cute but a bore. Joe, Rhoda's former husband, was cute. I always liked Benny, too.Brenda was cute with her hair in twin braids.I like her hair long, as it was before they left Rhoda's apt. I bet Rhoda felt foolish when she stood up at the concert, thinking Johnny would mention her.
I was in my late 20s and I could not STAND Johnny, except for the "Mystery Man" episode. When I saw it again later on, and now, I absolutely love Michael's characterization of Johnny. He appears to have had such a good time. I really liked Joe, too. I also didn't care for Nick until I saw Richard Masur as Anne's boyfriend on One Day At a Time, and I grew to appreciate Richard's characterization of Nick characterization as well. I liked the character of Rhoda better on MTM than on her own show but that's hindsight. I do think I bailed before the end of the series originally.
I dislike that character Johnny. The writers must have finished with MTMS and they had gone stale with Rhoda episodes. Joe was a much better supporting character for Rhoda if the they had made him more interesting for Rhoda and the viewers.
Johnny stands up to her. He's her equal and she doesn't like it. She tries to destroy him, almost succeeds, and he turns it around in his own favor. He is terrific!
What the backstory to all this is, is the hatred of the Rock-and-Roll illiterate generation for the Great American Songbook that came before and continues, if hidden. Johnny represents Entertainment, which saw itself rightly as serving a semi-Divine purpose, of uplifting the audience. To replace it, you have evil rock demons serving themselves and their drug-addled libidos. Or drug-devouring disco dippies. That's what Rhoda is representing, she is the dishonest one. Brenda and Gary appreciate him.
By season 4, the people writing “Rhoda” were not the same people who had been writers on The Mary Tyler Moore Show.
@Konga 5000 Johnny Venture may have been a cartoon character but he did represent lounge lizards (and to a degree, singer Tom Jones who always wore that huge cross and several rings, and who had a lot of sex after his shows with willing audience participants). I was in my late 20s when this was aired originally and I did NOT like Johnny, but now as a 70+ person, I find this characterization delicious. Michael appears to have had such a good time doing it, every time he appeared. I don't see that there really was anywhere to take him and her after that, though.
I don’t like the intro for this season, just cheesy or something.
I love Johnny Venture and Rhoda, Brenda, Ida, Martin and Ron Silver. Just couldn’t stand Carlton your doorman….it got too repetitive.
I like Gary better then Rhoda
Stupid comparison!!
I hated the 70s the first time through. This episode shows what a weird dysfunctional unaware time it was.
It's a damn site more dysfunctional now!
The 70's were so much more in real life, believe me. We felt free, had good music, good TV, we went OUTSIDE in sun, snow, played in puddles in the spring rain and had the best drugs, clothes and more than u must've missed out on
@@barbibutton9619 I’m not from the 70s but I love 💕 your response…. Awesome!!!
Every second that is experienced depends on the person every second, day, decade can be amazing or trash depending on who you are and how you see life