The Boonar is the finest delay pedal I’ve ever owned. Its sound is nothing less than gorgeous, stellar. I believe it to be one of the most beautiful sounding pedals ever made. Thank you for the comparison!
I can't get a bad sound out of my Boonar. It is a magic pedal. It adds so much depth and almost a 3d effect. I pretty much leave speed at 2 o'clock and use the buttons to get the delay I need or pop the swell for an awesome reverb-ish wash. And the eye👁️, oh man. Good video!
What are you listening on? I cannot fathom how anyone can think the Boonar sounds warmer or better than the Volante. Boonar is nice but Volante is a whole next few levels sonically.
I own a lot of delay pedals (including the DP Boonar, one of the very BEST!) and have a few on my main pedalboard. Looks like I am going to have to add VOLANTE into the mix. Gorgeous sounds, intuitive controls, stereo ins and outs....
Volante sounds very bright and digital, to me. 🤷🏻♂️ The original Echorec and Echoplex weren’t stereo … you can add ‘faux stereo’ to any pedal, in a number of ways …
Regarding the Boonar being in mono …… if fed into say, an analog chorus pedal with twin outs and the chorus turned way down, there is enough movement in the air to suggest stereo, albeit in ambient form. One can get tired of ping pong delay very quickly, and the beauty of delay is not really knowing where the echos are coming from. Oh, and btw, I have three stereo and four mono delay pedals, and would gladly trade them in for the Boonar - such a lovely sound.
Great demo I have already have the Boonar and I was planing to get the Volante but after seeing this demo I think I'm going to wait till the new Boonar. Thanks a lot.
Full disclaimer....I love Strymon pedals (I have a Big Sky) and I wanted to like the Volante but the Boonar had a lusher tone to my ears. Both are gorgeous pedals but features aside...the Boonar sounded a smidge better.
I am listening while I read the comments and I can't even tell this is a comparison video! 🤗 Everybody has different rigs and therefor different impedance matching requirements, buy the one that fits you and your rig. (I went with the Boonar cuz the only Strymon I want is the Deco.)
Years ago I had a Binson, Dynacord, , Meazzi - you name it . . . . I've just bought the Volante after trying several others including Boonar,, Boss DD-500 and Volante is real old school and sonically superior. I have several machines including Klemt Echolette, Hall & Collins, Blue Nebula , Catalinbread Echorec, tried them all. The Strymon has something that the Klemt has and I can hear it but can't describe what it is. The bottom line is that it doesn't break the bank for what it adds to my kit, so it's cool. What needs to be understood is that all the old machines had their own 'echo tone' and they varied a lot. Much of it is down to preference.
It's that "pitch resonance' that I hear both with the volante and the el cap that keeps me from buying them. They seem to hold onto certain frequencies and they decay in a manner I find very artificial.
@@mattgilbert7347. El Cap seemed like one of the less offensive Strymon pedals, because of the tape age control, I think? But yes, I generally dislike Strymon pedals, because of that artificial, digital sheen they all seem to have …
6:40 at about 6:40 when you're messing with the spacing knob on the Volante there's a quite nice pitch shift effect. I don't even know if it's intentional but I like it. Are there any pedals that can produce a similar sound?
Any delay will change the pitch if you have sound actively going through it while you modify anything with delay time. That's essentially what that was doing, since I only had one head engaged at that point in the video. I think in this particular instance, what probably makes it good is that it's on the verge of self oscillation but not running away with it. Echorec style pedals are usually fairly good at that since they do nice washes, but not many delay pedals are good at it in the overall scheme of things. I might test this out with my other Echorec pedals and get back to you. I can't think of many outside of those styles that would be good at it.
The Volante has the same playback/feedback head selection as the PE 603 and in my experience using the Volante you get a better swell sound turning on all of the playback heads but only one feedback head
I listened through my Yamaha HS-5s, then did a blind listen through my Beyerdynamic DT 250s. I prefer the Boonar. At least for my ears, the addition of "spring" reverb is the only thing the Volante has going for it over the Boonar.
I think the spring reverb sounds harsh and digital … but the panning per head is the one feature I wish the Boonar had … perhaps it will be added to the Boonar Tube Deluxe by way of a USB update … ?! 🤷🏻♂️
Hey buddy outside of features on a pedal, what’s the most natural sounding, organic, not so digital sounding, tape delay pedal you’ve used? It would be strictly used for an acoustic guitar. Have you tried the new UA starlight? Video coming up? Always great videos thanks!
The Boonar is absolutely amazing but it’s not as versatile as the Volante. The Volante is pretty much a Binson echorec and a DL4 in one unit. It sounds crisper, you can set the repeats at different outputs, Also has a spring Reverb , you can loop and also do reverse delay. Also has a midi clock which useful for using synths or drum machines
True, however getting incredible sounds from Boonar is easy with the simple control set. Did anyone else notice the size difference? Volante is huge, though it does cover more bases. I think Boonar inspired the design of the Volante. Both great pedals for sure.
Man, it’s pretty night🌙 and day🌞for me. Volante is a box of magic. It’s cool to be an accurate representation, but the Volante represents an ideal. When you roll to golden and silver ratio, the thing slays. They both are different enough to keep, but man Strymon made a masterpiece. Great playing here btw. The inspiration of the pedal shines
DP by a mile. It's musicality is something a spec sheet can't describe. EVERY time I didn't care for the sound while reading comments, I'd scroll up and sure enough it was the Volante. Something is objectively wrong with either Strymon's DSP or their audio circuits; they seem to all ring with a rank overtone(s), more or less. It's as though the unit is microphonic!
Thanks for the demo, btw ! I'm gonna snag a Boonar to put next to my Nemesis, H9, DC-2W, Rubberneck and JR Clockwork (w/ a Gibson DigitalEchoplex and RE-301 in/on the studio rack).
I haven't... I wish they'd come out with it. Maybe around tax return season :) Anyways, from the clip they released on instagram it doesn't look like stereo IO, unless they did a TRS connection for both. Sounds incredible though.
Put on good monitor headphones. The Strymon is on a whole higher level of Sonic Fidelity. Unless it's down to a size thing, the Volante is clearly the top pedal for Echorec and it also does Space Echo. Best delay pedal in a long time. This and Deco are so spot on for an Echorec and tape decks it's truly stunning. Strymon make the best FX Pedals especially Delay, Reverb and modulation. The sonic fidelity is unreal.
Hi and thanks for another great review. This one I have to say didn't really understand that's because I'm a Dummy. But you mentioned the Boonar is strictly Echorec while the Strymon is an Echorec plus? Trying to figure these things out because I do really do need a killer bee delay.
You got the general gist! The Volante design was to try and encompass what was cool about multi head delays. This could be a tape echo (such as the echoplex or space echo, or studio tape) or a spinning drum echo (such as the echorec) All of these things are pretty iconic sounds from the past. The Boonar only mimics the Echorec. So this demo only focused on the "drum" mode, but each mode in Volante has different modulation depending on what it's emulating. I did a 2 part demo of the Volante and went over all modes in those, so check them out if interested. Those 2 demos also go into much more detail of the Volante. Things I didn't cover as well here since I was only focusing on the features that the Boonar had in common.
Ive uesd the boonar as my main delay until trying out the volante l can get that darker tone from the volante and get very close to the boonar. The the volante is just a more complete products than the boonar and will out live the timeline. I now have the boonar on my smaller board and thinking of selling the timeline, still keeping the boonar.
Volante wins for me honestly, theres just something more lush going on and less clanky than the boonar. I mean they are both amazing and I'd gladly use either but the Volante has a lot more magic in the mod section and isnt fatiguing in that higher transient on the repeats like the boonar.
The initial intent of the pedal is to mimic the Echorec which was Mono, Dawner Prince are working on an updated version, I think the new version is supposed to be stereo. We shall see.
@@TriPedalReviews Thank you, but the original was mono due to technical limitations. It's a pretty poor reason keeping it so in the digital replica in my opinion.
@@MrCacciLLo How? In the studio the engineer would have to create the stereo effect anyway. But no matter how ridiculous, I am not reducing my soundscape so greatly just for "a little bit warmer". Use a tube amp to make up for it. By the way; had the demo been in stereo, dramatically fuller effect would completely have overpowered the subtle differences.
@Nilly Sigger no. I owned it. No comparison to the EL capistan. No depth. Terrible modulation sounds. Sounds digital. The buttons were pointless. It's all looks and hype. Stitched to source audio for delay and verb but would but the el capistan again.
@Nilly Sigger the nemesis lacks some mojo and depth but the clarity and versatility, and options make up for that. If i had to choose a delay out of the 3 it would be the EL Capistan. El cap has the depth and warmth. Something about its preamp (or input/output impedance?) really worked well with my amps in ways no other delays have
I’ll take character (‘warmth’ even), over sterile ‘clarity’ (eg that digital sheen that most - not all - Strymon pedals have, any day …). Unless I want that digital sheen … which is part of the character of eg certain modulated delays, shimmer reverb, etc … For the Echorec sound, Boonar has it and character. El Cap seems like the best Strymon delay, because of the Tape Age control. The rest all have that bright, digital sheen that can’t be gotten rid of … 😕
The Boonar is the finest delay pedal I’ve ever owned. Its sound is nothing less than gorgeous, stellar. I believe it to be one of the most beautiful sounding pedals ever made. Thank you for the comparison!
Volante has features
Boonar has the SOUND
Nice review 🎸
this is one of the best pedal demos i have seen.....sound quality, layout of content, and objective perspective.
right on.
Thank you! It takes a lot of effort to put together shootouts and do a decent job at it. So feedback like this is always cool to hear.
00:05 - Single Head
00:29 - Swell
01:39 - Brightest Setting
02:25 - Least bright setting(s)
03:41 - Longest Delay Time
03:50 - Shortest Delay Time
04:17 - Knob Twiddling Strymo Volante
09:30 - Knob Twiddling Dawner Prince Boonar
15:37 - Flapping the yap
I've recently acquired both a Belle Epoch Deluxe and a Boonar, and I'll say this: the BED is magical, but I've actually been using the Boonar more.
I can't get a bad sound out of my Boonar. It is a magic pedal. It adds so much depth and almost a 3d effect. I pretty much leave speed at 2 o'clock and use the buttons to get the delay I need or pop the swell for an awesome reverb-ish wash. And the eye👁️, oh man.
Good video!
Thank you sir!
The Volante has more options but the Boonar seems more organic and warmer to my ears.
And it takes up less space on the board too.
What are you listening on? I cannot fathom how anyone can think the Boonar sounds warmer or better than the Volante. Boonar is nice but Volante is a whole next few levels sonically.
I love the Volante, I compared these back to back at my local shop and went home with the volante. The thing sounds amazing!
I do agree with you and I will keep my timeline and certainly buy soon the boonar...
@@whitewizzardllc2348 yeah, I agree. the Volante is warmer, darker eq with more mids.
I own a lot of delay pedals (including the DP Boonar, one of the very BEST!) and have a few on my main pedalboard. Looks like I am going to have to add VOLANTE into the mix. Gorgeous sounds, intuitive controls, stereo ins and outs....
Volante sounds very bright and digital, to me. 🤷🏻♂️ The original Echorec and Echoplex weren’t stereo … you can add ‘faux stereo’ to any pedal, in a number of ways …
Regarding the Boonar being in mono …… if fed into say, an analog chorus pedal with twin outs and the chorus turned way down, there is enough movement in the air to suggest stereo, albeit in ambient form. One can get tired of ping pong delay very quickly, and the beauty of delay is not really knowing where the echos are coming from. Oh, and btw, I have three stereo and four mono delay pedals, and would gladly trade them in for the Boonar - such a lovely sound.
Excellent point and great thinking outside the box!
Thank you! I use chorus to convert my mono synth into stereo often. I love flangers, but I use choruses.
I do the same with a Mr. Black Vintage Ensemble Stereo Chorus. The widest stereo spread I’ve heard, more than some stereo reverb pedals I’ve owned.
@@stevenj5155 Yea, that's a great pedal.
Great demo I have already have the Boonar and I was planing to get the Volante but after seeing this demo I think I'm going to wait till the new Boonar. Thanks a lot.
Manny Apache any idea when that thing is coming out?
No idea at all but i think it will take a bit longer ; (
^ it took until June 2024, lol. Stupid COVID …
@@kierenmoore3236 yep and the tube deluxe is already sold out 😭
I own the Volante. Wish it had that eye that the Boonar has. Such a cool feature.
Full disclaimer....I love Strymon pedals (I have a Big Sky) and I wanted to like the Volante but the Boonar had a lusher tone to my ears. Both are gorgeous pedals but features aside...the Boonar sounded a smidge better.
Finallyyyyyy, thank you! Been looking for a good comprehensive comparison.
I am listening while I read the comments and I can't even tell this is a comparison video! 🤗 Everybody has different rigs and therefor different impedance matching requirements, buy the one that fits you and your rig. (I went with the Boonar cuz the only Strymon I want is the Deco.)
El Cap seems pretty cool, too … but I don’t like most Strymon pedals, because of that digital sheen they all have … 😕
Great demo...I own the boonar and actually prefer its sound, and most def it's pedalboard friendly size!
Years ago I had a Binson, Dynacord, , Meazzi - you name it . . . . I've just bought the Volante after trying several others including Boonar,, Boss DD-500 and Volante is real old school and sonically superior. I have several machines including Klemt Echolette, Hall & Collins, Blue Nebula , Catalinbread Echorec, tried them all. The Strymon has something that the Klemt has and I can hear it but can't describe what it is. The bottom line is that it doesn't break the bank for what it adds to my kit, so it's cool. What needs to be understood is that all the old machines had their own 'echo tone' and they varied a lot. Much of it is down to preference.
You can’t be serious. lol
It's that "pitch resonance' that I hear both with the volante and the el cap that keeps me from buying them. They seem to hold onto certain frequencies and they decay in a manner I find very artificial.
Totally agree. It's the main reason I sold my El Cap
The digital sheen on Strymon pedals puts me right off … 😕
@@mattgilbert7347. El Cap seemed like one of the less offensive Strymon pedals, because of the tape age control, I think? But yes, I generally dislike Strymon pedals, because of that artificial, digital sheen they all seem to have …
@@kierenmoore3236 That's it. I call it the Strymon Sheen. Seems I am not alone in that :)
@@mattgilbert7347 Amen, brother.
6:40 at about 6:40 when you're messing with the spacing knob on the Volante there's a quite nice pitch shift effect. I don't even know if it's intentional but I like it. Are there any pedals that can produce a similar sound?
Any delay will change the pitch if you have sound actively going through it while you modify anything with delay time. That's essentially what that was doing, since I only had one head engaged at that point in the video. I think in this particular instance, what probably makes it good is that it's on the verge of self oscillation but not running away with it. Echorec style pedals are usually fairly good at that since they do nice washes, but not many delay pedals are good at it in the overall scheme of things. I might test this out with my other Echorec pedals and get back to you. I can't think of many outside of those styles that would be good at it.
@TriPedalReviews thanks, that's super helpful. Please let me know if you discover anything else!
The Volante has the same playback/feedback head selection as the PE 603 and in my experience using the Volante you get a better swell sound turning on all of the playback heads but only one feedback head
The new Boonar has the same head selection switches as the PE 603 now, too …
I listened through my Yamaha HS-5s, then did a blind listen through my Beyerdynamic DT 250s. I prefer the Boonar. At least for my ears, the addition of "spring" reverb is the only thing the Volante has going for it over the Boonar.
I think the spring reverb sounds harsh and digital … but the panning per head is the one feature I wish the Boonar had … perhaps it will be added to the Boonar Tube Deluxe by way of a USB update … ?! 🤷🏻♂️
Any shadows on the boonar would be great
Great job. Thank you.
Hey buddy outside of features on a pedal, what’s the most natural sounding, organic, not so digital sounding, tape delay pedal you’ve used? It would be strictly used for an acoustic guitar. Have you tried the new UA starlight? Video coming up? Always great videos thanks!
PLEASE DO A VOLTANTE VS THE BOSS RE 20 SPACE ECHO
The Boonar is absolutely amazing but it’s not as versatile as the Volante. The Volante is pretty much a Binson echorec and a DL4 in one unit. It sounds crisper, you can set the repeats at different outputs, Also has a spring Reverb , you can loop and also do reverse delay. Also has a midi clock which useful for using synths or drum machines
And you even forgot stereo. Boonar might be a little cheaper but it seems Volante has at least four times the value.
True, however getting incredible sounds from Boonar is easy with the simple control set. Did anyone else notice the size difference? Volante is huge, though it does cover more bases. I think Boonar inspired the design of the Volante. Both great pedals for sure.
@Dave Davies I ended up selling it lol 😂
I prefer the tone/character of the boonar … and tone is everything …
@@kierenmoore3236 well boonar made a midi version so there you go lol
Man, it’s pretty night🌙 and day🌞for me. Volante is a box of magic. It’s cool to be an accurate representation, but the Volante represents an ideal. When you roll to golden and silver ratio, the thing slays. They both are different enough to keep, but man Strymon made a masterpiece. Great playing here btw. The inspiration of the pedal shines
Good comparison video, Cool Channel too
DP by a mile. It's musicality is something a spec sheet can't describe.
EVERY time I didn't care for the sound while reading comments, I'd scroll up and sure enough it was the Volante. Something is objectively wrong with either Strymon's DSP or their audio circuits; they seem to all ring with a rank overtone(s), more or less. It's as though the unit is microphonic!
Thanks for the demo, btw !
I'm gonna snag a Boonar to put next to my Nemesis, H9, DC-2W, Rubberneck and JR Clockwork (w/ a Gibson DigitalEchoplex and RE-301 in/on the studio rack).
thnx for doing this video.
How can you get a dotted 8th from the Boonar and how do you know the delay time?
after using a delay pedal for a while you can dial in those delay times and eventually remember where to put the speed/time knob
Pan effects?
Have you heard anything regarding the deluxe Boonar brother? Is it stereo in and out? Possible release time?
I haven't... I wish they'd come out with it. Maybe around tax return season :) Anyways, from the clip they released on instagram it doesn't look like stereo IO, unless they did a TRS connection for both. Sounds incredible though.
Boonar!!!
I can feel the computer in the Volante but I can't feel the computer in the Boonar. Boonar just sounds more organic
Put on good monitor headphones. The Strymon is on a whole higher level of Sonic Fidelity. Unless it's down to a size thing, the Volante is clearly the top pedal for Echorec and it also does Space Echo. Best delay pedal in a long time. This and Deco are so spot on for an Echorec and tape decks it's truly stunning. Strymon make the best FX Pedals especially Delay, Reverb and modulation. The sonic fidelity is unreal.
Boonar
Volante cost $135 more.
And it’s worth it lol
I kept my volante over the boonar. Sounds so amazing through my plexi.
Boonar for the win!!
Strymon for me. MIDI is the big plus. I want one dangit.
Got one! Love it!
New Boonar has MIDI, and heaps more …
Hi and thanks for another great review. This one I have to say didn't really understand that's because I'm a Dummy. But you mentioned the Boonar is strictly Echorec while the Strymon is an Echorec plus? Trying to figure these things out because I do really do need a killer bee delay.
You got the general gist! The Volante design was to try and encompass what was cool about multi head delays. This could be a tape echo (such as the echoplex or space echo, or studio tape) or a spinning drum echo (such as the echorec) All of these things are pretty iconic sounds from the past. The Boonar only mimics the Echorec. So this demo only focused on the "drum" mode, but each mode in Volante has different modulation depending on what it's emulating. I did a 2 part demo of the Volante and went over all modes in those, so check them out if interested. Those 2 demos also go into much more detail of the Volante. Things I didn't cover as well here since I was only focusing on the features that the Boonar had in common.
@@TriPedalReviews Thanks, you are always informative. And helpful. Peace, buddy. Always digging your channel.
Ive uesd the boonar as my main delay until trying out the volante l can get that darker tone from the volante and get very close to the boonar. The the volante is just a more complete products than the boonar and will out live the timeline. I now have the boonar on my smaller board and thinking of selling the timeline, still keeping the boonar.
Volante wins for me honestly, theres just something more lush going on and less clanky than the boonar. I mean they are both amazing and I'd gladly use either but the Volante has a lot more magic in the mod section and isnt fatiguing in that higher transient on the repeats like the boonar.
You’re kidding, right? The Volante sounds so bright and digital, to me. 😬
Boonar is mono? Yeah, no thanks. Why make a soundscape effect only to limit it to 10% of the soundscape potential from the outset?
The initial intent of the pedal is to mimic the Echorec which was Mono, Dawner Prince are working on an updated version, I think the new version is supposed to be stereo. We shall see.
@@TriPedalReviews Thank you, but the original was mono due to technical limitations. It's a pretty poor reason keeping it so in the digital replica in my opinion.
@@poulwinther Thats ridiculous.
@@MrCacciLLo How? In the studio the engineer would have to create the stereo effect anyway. But no matter how ridiculous, I am not reducing my soundscape so greatly just for "a little bit warmer". Use a tube amp to make up for it.
By the way; had the demo been in stereo, dramatically fuller effect would completely have overpowered the subtle differences.
Poul Winther Knudsen You have really no idea of what Stereo is and how it's created!
The volante sucks in real life
@Nilly Sigger no. I owned it. No comparison to the EL capistan. No depth. Terrible modulation sounds. Sounds digital. The buttons were pointless. It's all looks and hype. Stitched to source audio for delay and verb but would but the el capistan again.
@Nilly Sigger the nemesis lacks some mojo and depth but the clarity and versatility, and options make up for that. If i had to choose a delay out of the 3 it would be the EL Capistan. El cap has the depth and warmth. Something about its preamp (or input/output impedance?) really worked well with my amps in ways no other delays have
I’ll take character (‘warmth’ even), over sterile ‘clarity’ (eg that digital sheen that most - not all - Strymon pedals have, any day …).
Unless I want that digital sheen … which is part of the character of eg certain modulated delays, shimmer reverb, etc …
For the Echorec sound, Boonar has it and character.
El Cap seems like the best Strymon delay, because of the Tape Age control. The rest all have that bright, digital sheen that can’t be gotten rid of … 😕