Are Two Barn Doors Twice The Trouble To Install?
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This video explores some of the challenges of installing double barn doors. Though it's not as simple as installing a single barn door, there are some things that make it a little more difficult but it's still very manageable for a motivated woodworker. Barn doors are a very popular feature for many homes these days and my channel has numerous videos to help that and other home remodeling projects easier to do.
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I’ve got a gap where my doors meet in the middle. Suggestions on how to adjust the doors to eliminate the gap would be appreciated - greatly!
Unfortunately, Gretchen, if the doors are touching at the top and bottom and there is a gap inbetween, the fix is to remove material on the top and bottom on one or both doors. While that is not a real difficult thing to do, you want to take a little at a time which mean removing and reinstalling the doors multiple times to see the progress. So, it is tedious! The worst mistake is to get impatient and take too much off and create the reverse problem of the doors touching in the middle and gapping at the top! Good luck and thanks for watching!
How do keep the doors from swinging all the way to one side? I cant put a stop in the middle due to the connector bracket for the bar.
Yeah, I know what you are talking about. I had extra bumper brackets that go on the ends that I cut down size-wise so I could use them in the middle to stop each door from going past the centerline. I think I cut probably a third of the brackets off and it worked fine. So my last installation step was to remove the connector bracket and loosen one rail enough to slide the modified brackets on the rail, get them in position then reinstall the connector bracket. Surprisingly, it was easier than I thought and a definitely necessary step! Good luck, Sierreno!
Where did you buy your hardware from? Did it come with the connector to join two rails? Could Uighur shard a link for the hardware and the handles for the doors? Thanks.
Have spent more than an hour watching your vids. VERY impressed with the quality of the work and the info delivery. Solid solid stuff on both points. Bravo.
Hey Brett! I just saw your comment pop up and I appreciate you kind words. I've got a list of videos to make that I'm working on more geared toward shop projects and things I'm needing to finish around my home. Did a major renovation of my home about 10 years ago and, as is typical with contractors, I have left a number of my projects unfinished and my ever increasing age is looming out there! Hopefully the upcoming videos will be interesting. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I appreciate it.
Question help please, I made 2 doors for a barn door system, but not going well, doors are flush at the top but almost a 1” gap at the bottom, I can’t figure it out.
Good thing, John, is that there are lots of ways to adjust doors… probably too many so it can get confusing! Not that is matters too much at this time, but since you made your doors, are they square? Diagonal measurements will be very close if they are.
One quick way to look at a solution for your situation is to think that if each of your doors were raised about 1/4 inch higher in the center where they meet and the outer wheels continue to rest on the rail, the bottom gap would come close to disappearing. You can place shims under each door in the center and see what you need to accurately close the gap. To make that position permanent, you could lower the holes in your doors on the inner wheel hardware and tighten the wheels up to hold that position when the doors are re-hung. If your doors were level at the top before this adjustment, obviously they are not now. Once you get your gap where the doors meet in the middle the way you want, you can mark a level line across both doors at the top and trim the doors at the line. That modification will not be noticeable and your doors will be level to sight at the top and your gap where they meet will be gone. That’s one way to approach your issue. You can adjust all four wheels also to split the difference between more adjustable parts. You just need to understand what it is that you are trying to accomplish before you make big changes that you can’t reverse.
Hang in there, John! If you can build your own doors, you can figure this out! You are in the tweaking mode now. Not that far from finishing it up! Good luck!
Could not get your link to work but have a question- on this type of installation, how do you keep one door from swinging too far closed and sliding out of the floor guides? On ours, this could happen when one door is open and the other closes too far.
As I recall, I had an extra set of the bumpers that keep the doors from sliding off the ends of the rail that I installed in the center of the rail too. I had to cut the width of them down a little to make them work but I had plenty of width to work with. I installed them so that the doors could move maybe 1/2" beyond dead center of the opening so that solved the issue of the doors coming out of the floor guides.
I always wondered if those install as easy as they promise to, or appear to. Like a regular door, there's a lot of subtle aspects that can quickly add up and become quite a puzzle.
Yes, Bill, it may not ultimately be that difficult, but it is not as easy as it is presented at times. Two doors definitely do complicate things. I get frustrated when I’m thinking a job should only take so long, but it ends up being twice as long as I thought. It gets to be like pulling teeth to get everything finished up! Thanks for watching!
Love your videos thank you!! Great voice too!
Thanks, Lauren! I appreciate you watching!
I just installed double barn doors and there is a space where the doors meet, i am so frustrated because this project is taking me a good while to finish. I dont even know whats the problem because everything is leveled.
Sorry you are having trouble with your doors. Yeah, it can be tricky because there are so many factors that can affect the way the doors are hanging. Everything being level is one thing, but when there is a gap in the middle where the doors meet, the issue is the counterpoint to level which is “plumb”. Basically when you turn your level 90 degrees. The simplest way to visualize what I am talking about is to take a piece of string and tape it over the top corner of each door leaving the doors an inch or two apart in the middle. Tie a washer to the string or something that is heavy enough for gravity to stretch the string out straight and as close to the floor as possible. You have made what old carpenters would call a “plumb bob”. You can actually buy them at hardware stores. My point is that because of gravity your strings on your doors will be hanging exactly parallel to each other. If each of your doors were hanging aligned with your strings, they would be parallel and would close against each other with no gap. So that’s your challenge. What adjustments to the doors do you have to make to accomplish that? Typically the simplest way is to loosen and adjust the up and down location of a roller on each door until you get the doors to hang ‘plumb’. Don’t worry about level at the top of the doors. It is irrelevant to your plumb problem. If a door or doors is a little out of square, that compounds the issue, but doesn’t change the path to a solution in your situation. Hope that helps! The concept is pretty simple once you understand what is happening but it can be ‘maddening’ trying to figure it out. There are lots of adjustments you can make when hanging two doors. Try to focus on one at a time to try to get the results you want. Good luck!
@@RustyDobbs . Thank you so much for this awesome explanation, well appreciated. B4 you replied, we were thinking to do the bifolding doors but it won't be until tuesday 9/3/2024. Again, thank you so much for replying. May God bless you !!
You might be able to get rid of the magnets if you tighten the pulleys a bit. Doing this can actually stop the pulleys from moving on some door kits.
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind down the road!
I have a laundry room that had a bi folding door. We upgraded to a front loading washer and dryer and now need a new door because those doors block the washer and dryer door where they can't open all the way. I need advice on a good door to use. I'm thinking barndoors may work but not sure
Yeah, barn doors sound like a possible good solution if you have the wall space either outside or inside the laundry room for the door or doors to slide fully open. Barn doors are not great for reducing sound, but neither are bifolds so that would not be a new issue for you. This installation was in the primary hallway just off the main living area so very visible to guests. I have to say it was really a very good looking pair of doors and gave a nice upscale look to an older home. Good luck with your project!
Hi, Greetings from Australia. I’ve got the same issues some of your other viewers have. My double barn doors touch at the top when closed but have a 15mm gap at the bottom. Everything as far as I can ascertain is square & level, so it has to be the mounting of the runner hardware. If I elongated the holes of the two outer runners where they attach to the doors I’m thinking that would allow the top outer edges to drop & close the gap at the bottom of the doors. Am I heading in the right direction? I built my own doors, they look really good, I’m not going to let a bit of wood beat me.
Sorry for the delayed response, Paul! Yes you are heading in one right direction and as I’m sure you realize there are lots of ways to address your issue. Nice job that you built your own doors! The only downside to enlarging your holes I have found is when I start removing and repositioning the hardware, sometimes that creates a new problem when I reinstall. Particularly with two barn doors, there are lots of things going on during installation that can impact alignment. For future reference, you may not like this idea but if your doors are still unfinished, you could trim 7mm from the top of each door tapered down to nothing at the bottom and eliminate your gap that way particularly if you are satisfied with the way your doors are sliding. A true carpenter might be horrified to hear that suggestion but it’s a simple fix! (I have installed too much tile in my life so that’s where that hack probably came from!)
@@RustyDobbs Hi Rusty, appreciate that you took the time to reply. I fixed the issue by elongating the holes in one of the metal hangers on one door, I used an air wedge bag to lift the opposite lower edge until the gap disappeared & then tightened the bolts on hanger with elongated holes. Problem solved. Doors look great, giving my self big pat on the back for my first attempt at building & hanging barn doors. Thanks again for your response. Regards Paul.
@@paulmannix1760 Nice work, Paul! I could tell from your initial comment that you would have not a problem resolving the issue. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
We have an issue with our doors,they meet at the top but flare out the closer they get to the bottom. Once moved farther from the center is when they touch. I hope that makes sense. Do you have any tips or what to do to fix it? Thank you
Hi Amalia. One of the easiest ways to visualize what you need to do to fix a problem like you have is to take a piece of string and tape it to the top corner of the door in the center so that the string hangs from the top corner but hangs against the front of the door. Tie a washer on the other end of the string so that it dangles just above the floor. You have created a plumb bob which carpenters have used forever. Assuming the top of your door is installed level, if you marked a line on the door where the string is hanging and planed your door down to match that line, your door edge would be straight and plumb. If you followed the same process with the other door, your doors would meet perfectly in the middle when closed. Now that’s easier to say than to do, but if you can envision that in your mind, that is where you start to figure out what the problem is with your doors. The door edges that meet in the middle need to be straight. It that is the case, there are usually other adjustments that can be made to align the doors with each other besides the plumb bob and planing. But the plumb bob idea should help you understand the basic problem. That’s about the best I can do without seeing your doors in person. Good luck!
Great job. Thanks for the magnet tips to aud vertical alignment
Glad it was helpful! Yeah, there are lots of useful purposes for magnets in construction I have stumbled onto!
Geepers, all I wanted has a step by step instruction on how to install the doors. I am not a licensed carpenter with a fancy shop like yours and tools that only a professional would typically have. I only want to install the hardware and hang the doors. Gimme a break!
You might try this. 1) If you have a drill and bits, drill holes in your wall to hold the rail above your door opening per instructions. 2) Secure the rail to the wall per instructions (level, if you have a level). 3) Install rollers on your door(s) per instructions. 4) Hang doors on rail. If you followed the instructions, the door should work fine and you’re done.
The first tools I bought as a 19 year old were a jigsaw, a tape measure, hammer and nails to build a wall shelf. I cut up my 1 x 12 piece of pine off the steps of the mobile home I lived in. Almost 50 years later, I’ve added a few things. Sounds like you are somewhere in between. No apologies here but I would suggest if it annoys you, maybe you shouldn’t watch videos by people who have more tools than you.
That’s helpful - thank you.
Thanks for watching, Chris! I appreciate it!
Funny about the lag bolts. When building my shower I went overboard and put a lot of extra wood behind where the shower door would eventually be mounted -- only to have my final screws go inbetween two flush boards on one side :(
Yeah, Borlak, when you go to the trouble to do the framing right, then hit the seam between two studs with your screws, that is an indication you are not having a good day! But that kind of thing is certainly not uncommon for me! Thanks for watching!
@@RustyDobbs If the framing is done right and you hit a seam between the two boards, it should still hold the bolt just fine. If the framing was done poorly, you will have gaps which cause problems.
Excellent....thank you !!
Thanks for watching, Tito! I appreciate it!