Worst Lotus Esprit chassis bodge // SOUP Classic Motoring E.37
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- Here's to the half assers, the short cut takers and bodger's out there, because life would be fairly dull without discovering someone went at your classic's chassis with a can opener!
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love the stop go animation
🤘🏼thanks a mill Andrew
@@soupclassicmotoring It's a bit like watching Morph dismantle a car. Brilliant piece of work. God knows how long it must have taken!!
If you optimize the lengths of all bolts, and toss the off-cuts into a bowl, you won't get the full amount of weight saved. You will be missing the metal cut by saw and file in dressing the cut end.
You have just created a new standard in filming car videos.....it’s just fabulous
Thanks Daniel
Really good episode George. You made me laugh when you said you didn’t have a vice. I’ve had a vice 20 years but never a work bench to mount it on. The fun I had sitting on the floor with the vice, wire brushing components of my Scimitar GTE... happy days. Good Luck.
I was pointed at this channel by a friend, who shares my love for all things resto. And I have to say, this has killed my productivity over the last week, I have binge watch all the previous videos and I'm fully intending watching all of them over the next week!
I so hope when I get to the later episodes this is still going strong! Keep it up George!
Good Luck, Stu
George, I think the chassis was opened with an air chisel that‘s why they are bent in and out due to the angle of attack! Cheers Dave
The voice of logic weighing in Dave, makes total sense. Could see the long indentations and couldn’t figure out how they got there. Thanks a mill mate
If it wasn't an air chisel, it'd be aviation snips. A messy job with aviation snips will leave metal rolled over in both directions and hacked cuts all over the place. It really is a neat ... I liked your earlier "agricultural" description ... chassis.
Tripped over this quite by accident, just superb, if only everyone was this dedicated.
You have gained another subscriber.
A car without bodges is a car without history.
It reminds me of the time I found a whirlpool pipe being used as a fuel line in my 82 924 haha.
😂
I think I got one better, bought a 1981 Pontiac Trans Am Turbo (Nascar Edition, one of 2,000 ever built). Previous owner complained that the new stereo head unit installed by his brother in law wasn't functional. Come to discover that the individual had used the fiber optic "wire" that runs from the ashtray light as a ground for the stereo. It was actually spliced, stripped and crimped a ground wire into the fiber optic wire. Genius.
@@fredpinczuk7352 Bet he wondered why it was all clear when he stripped it. But sure it must be metallic right, so an earth it becomes anyway! 😄
This is great, reminds me when I was twelve watching Take Art - well done!!!
Marshall Hewison. Wasn’t the program called “Take Hart”. hosted by Brian Hart
I do video production for a living, and cars for fun. Your video production is excellent, and the car stuff is great ,nice to see someone else using penetrating fluid, good job mate.
Thanks a mill Simon
The best is yet to come!! Nicely done!
It's all rewards from here on in, cant wait. Thanks mate
Wonderful video. That you were excited by all the chassis repairs inspires me as I look at all the work still to do on my MGB.
Get right on it man, you'll be glad. Thanks
"My car, that I fixed"......Hell yes! Best feeling in the world!!! Look forward to seeing more. Thanks
☝🏼thank you mate
Fabulous work, possible some of the best automotive repair content I’ve seen in TH-cam. 👍👍👍Subscribed and shared!
Pure entertainment! Great subject, great work, great videos, great narration. Thank you.
Blown away Ian, thanks a mill mate :)
Fantastic, glad to see you're not downhearted with the chassis damage.
Al good here Mark, how are the two beauties getting on? Do they brave winter?
Really impressive update, thanks for showing us the more non exciting part of a restoration George.
Could easily get even less exciting Paul 😆This coming week/episode is a bit blurry in terms of having a focussed topic. Thanks mate.
George I love your determination,confidence I wish you the best I’m like a little kid glued to my phone every time you have a new episode even if my wife get upset for not paying attention. Buenas noches body !
Bahaha! Tell your other half I'm sorry, but it's man time ;) Thanks a mill dude.
Absolutely brilliant and very captivating as usual!!
Thanks a mill fella, mean it
So inspiring George!
Exciting to see the chassis bare finally.
great to see the best advice ever given followed...if in doubt give it a paddy whack ....works time after time.
Love the video work. It's great that we can see what's going on, clearly, without heads and hands in the way.. Thanks
exactly what I wanted to show, thanks!
As someone who does almost all the work on my own Lotus (Elise), I really enjoy this series. Can't believe it's not more widely watched. Great production values and very interesting content. Keep up the good work (y)
Looking forward to seeing the state of the chassis once it's blasted. Surprised there's no aftermarket replacement option, like the Spyder chassis for the Elan and Elan +2.
you are a great storyteller and an outstanding stop play motion artist!
Recent subscriber and loving the content, that Esprit is beautiful and will be amazing when done, I've done a light resto on a car I bought 12 years ago when it was already 8 and although it fought me all the way was incredibly satisfying to get back on the road (legally) albeit I was just saving it from the scrap man having been laid up for 4 years as I had to sell it due to lack of funds to run it, but I knew that and just wanted to save it. The quality of your vids is amazing, I'm only half way through them but will try and contribute when I have spare funds - all the best.
Just had my 1975 Scimitar dropped off (thanks to your philosophy and you) now I have my own fibreglass project! You made a special day even better. Top lad. I need a new soup sticker now
Congrats mate! That's a manly car. Stickers aren't finalised yet but I'm working on it hard as I can. Update soon.
Man, I am re-watching some of your stuff as it comes up on the feed. Love the intro with Wonka
Wow you videos are just amazing, so much dedication and effort put into all of them.. top man
Thanks Dan :)
Truly brilliant. The bagpus/ fantastic Mr Fox animation is absolutely superb and so informative for this. Cheers for all these. This is the first I’ve watched, but subscribed immediately and look forward to watching more.. “back issues” too.
You had me at Bagpuss
My first time with you! Amazing filming! Gobsmacked. Must take ages. Almost magical seeing the car take itself apart. Fantastic stuff. Subscribed.
Love it man, thanks
Man I love how you videoed this nice work.
Thanks. Is that your real name?
You commentry is very articulate, and a pleasure to take in. Animated nut-and-bolting is great. A pleasure to watch, and I'm not really even into sports cars.
Couldn't ask for more. Thanks Steve
Gotta love them bodgers....your right it’s never scary finding that sort of thing, your always glad you did find them so you know ‘you’ can make it right...good progress.
Honestly can’t wait to learn on this one, no one ever got good from half assing it
Can’t wait to see how much wait you save
Great video. Some good tips. Keep up the great work!
Another great episode, its great to get right down to the bones!
Ground level now mate, going over the chassis at the moment before it goes out to be blasted/ Looking forward to the build. Thanks a mill :)
As an Esprit owner, I tip my hat to you - great series!
Cheers mate, and belated well wear
That is one mighty bodge right there. Lots of hard work ahead but you know it'll all be worth it.
Impressive right! World class messing.
Lovely project but i'm really impressed by the camera work too, it's excellent
Much appreciated Malcolm, thanks a mill.
Glad you took care of the hubs, you are absolutely correct about their rareness.
You will also find that over time, they wear and the camber can increase. This can happen unevenly, and give a lop-sided look...
Oh mate don’t add to the list. Whatever happens this will be the swan song
@@soupclassicmotoring my father has an S2.2, which he has had since 1983. It was his daily drive for 20 years. It's on 145k miles, engine rebuilt twice. Runs amazing. We have done around 2000 miles this year, including classic Le-Mans.
I promise you, the Esprit is an incredible car, an absolute pleasure to drive, even after all these years.
Love reading that Ali, all of it. Mileage over 100k and still bringing joy. I've always had my suspicions about the Esprit and it's going to be a sweet day when I finally get to drive it. Thanks a mill pal.
wow, thats a lot of work gone into filming this! subbed!
Thanks
I really appreciated the stop motion videography and the highlighted parts (Such at 1:14), it really helps see what is going on and makes the video that much more informative. Its not always easy to see what people are doing in live video and the person often blocks the shot somewhat, whereas the stop motion displays everything beautifully! I know it must be a lot of effort to produce so I wanted you to know that its appreciated!
Yours are the reasons I chose stop motion, thanks for the feedback
this is an amazing video thanks for posting
amazing Project !!! ... just finished my Restoration of a 81 Sportswear ... let´s see what you will have to go through to get this done.
Fantastic progress, mabruck!
Yo! How are things in the heat? Elise playing nice?
All good here thanks ... Arabian Winter is the best :-) @@soupclassicmotoring
Hey, I'm only a year behind now. Too bad about the bodges on the chassis, but like you said you will get extreme satisfaction repairing it knowing you did it right. I'm going to have to do the same thing (not fix a bodge, but fix a rotten chassis) on my GT6.
Better late than never. Good luck with the GT6! :)
Another great episode. Love the work & dedication going into the Esprit!
As soon as you lifted that plate off, I was forced to exclaim out loud in horror, "They fucking chiseled it!" And then to just pop rivet a cover on a structural member!? Just WTF were they thinking? Once you are finished, this will be better than it has been since it was near new!
When you add up all the grams you cut off, don't forget to add extra for all the filings you lose to the hacksaw and grinder!
It's all been said in the comments so I've nothing to add except thanks for another great video.
Thanks for saying it thought Terry 😁
Thanks! Good information!
Wonderful video, the work put in to the animation. The lack of endless repetitive into while nothing happens. Useful sensible commentary, and a lovely voice for the job.
Whoever did that bodge should be attached with a can opener to see how they like it.
I really get how the project excites you... I just refurbished a mini milling machine which was thoroughly f*%7ked . Can't wait top see more :-)
Great feedback Del, love it mate thanks. Congrats on the milling machine work, sound cool. Not sure if you've seen it but I have a big classic pillar drill to refurbish later on in the series, and as yet unmentioned: a hundred year old model maker's lathe to do too. Actually that should come soon because I want to use it to make a few tools to help with the Esprit build.
Awesome intro..."good day, sir!"
Thank you! :)
That was the coolest Peter Gabriel video I've seen for years ;)
I'm such a Sledge!
Don't worry about the differences in shims. Welded structures, even when jigged, are rarely perfect as the heat of welding causes distortions. My S3 Turbo has about 5mm of shim one side and 1mm the other. Alignment when complete is more important that the amount of shims used to achieve it.
Cheers Robert, I've come to this realisation in the meantime. They were all shimmed from the factory.
A man after my own heart, except you're lucky enough to have a garage and a mrs who doesn't keep moaning at you for having a "crap car" on the driveway bringing house prices down.
Your other half is very market conscious. My trick there is basically being homeless and alone 😉
The stop-motion animation technique used here is very reminiscent of that used by Jan Švankmajer. Were you influenced by him at all? It's wonderful, by the way.
A huge milestone!
Yeah it's all rebuild from here, almost don't know what to do with myself ;) Thanks pal
9 Minutes in. Subscribed. Love it!!
PS. If you’re in need of some masterly tube bending for your coolant pipes - I know a guy that could be persuaded. He did a blinding job on my project, which was faaaar more complex...
3mins in for me. Subscribed.
Nigel wins! ;) Thanks lads and yes, you never know who I'll need for advice so any tips welcome!
Great camera work there , have you thought about galvanising the chassis ? you're doing the car proud with all this effort , keep up the good work
Have mulled it over a few times over the months. I won't daily drive the car [won't over pamper it either] but the only time it'll get wet is when it's caught out on a GT or spin. No need for galvanising and in Esprit history it's not right for an S2. Not that I'm married to strictly factory, just on that one a few reasons to stay original stack up. Thanks a mill mate.
Great episode mate. Just remember every bolt you cut down your also losing a disc width of material. Difference in shim maybe from chassis twist from those holes cut in it.
Ill add another donation to the welder fund for you.
I had a line in the early edit about the disc width but there was no room for it in the end. Will either pre weigh as much as possible or try work out the percentage lost so it can be applied. The welder fund! Thanks a mill mate, it's greatly appreciated. Haven't had much luck with the welding companies yet, but then I haven't hit them all up.
Such is life. I remember as an innocent student buying a nice shiny Mini, and being pushed into the path of an approaching double decker bus by an idiot joining my carriageway. The resulting debris revealed a lot of resin coated Kelloggs cornflake cardboard structural panels that I'd thought were original factory parts of my car.
haha, good story and motivational - every car has stories, right ??
Amazing what has been perpetrated by 'professionals' on cars
For what it's wort you can make little cups or wells around then it's and bolts from modelling clay and fill them with penetrating oil. Means you fill them up and leave to soak and do it's stuff. Works well on vintage aircraft engines so will work for you.
Add lightness George, add lightness...
Looking forward to the next video mate.
Yes! Every little counts
Please buy a vice they are so handy. I would be looking at acid dip rather than blasting, it will get in every where. Love your work.
Have to get something to bolt one to first pal 😄Unfortunately no one offers acid dip in Ireland, one of the many things that the small market doesn't justify the setup costs of when you live on an island. I've tried begging the galvanisers to acid dip it for me but they're not set up with tanks for neutralising the acid. Thanks a mill dude
What savage was at that chassis back in the day? And the owner probably paid well for the work too I would imagine.
Too funny mate, it’s beyond getting bent about, it'll be fun to try and sort.
I revere this design and Guigarios achievement. It is hard for me to understand how anyone fortunate enough to have owned this car could have allowed it to deteriorate so far and to resort to just cutting away parts to access some real or imagined problem. What a shame and what a blessing to know that this one will be back to its amazing condition when this restoration is completed.
Maybe those holes were cut to prevent a torch or grinder from damaging the other coolant pipes, George??? Great strip so far...
Very conscientious mechanic Mal
Hi George, another wonderful video! Saw the title and I was intrigued. I have to admit, I was excited to get to this part with the chassis! Man, did that stuff looked caked on!
Part of the reason I watch is the cinematography and the effort put in unto stop motion. What program are you using for producing? How did you do the highlighting of the different parts? Thanks! Ray
PS: there's a lot of penetrating fluid! Any potential sponsorship requests from WD40? :o)
Oh look mate the thumbnail and title need to tread the fine line between click bait and boring, I produce my heart out but I don’t want to sell out. All editing platforms are the same, I say that with some authority but I use old school processes in Photoshop for the component highlights. Hope that helps 😘
G: If you are gonna shorten all your fasteners to save weight you probably want to cut before you take the nut off. From experience I know how much fun it is to reach inside of something with your non dominant hand to try to get a nut started on threads that are cut. fun fun fun. At least its not hot over there, try doing it in 105 degree heat or 15 degree cold. It makes you re evaluate your priorities.
And if you want to save the same amount of weight just use the same fasteners you removed. Then just go into Carlingford and hit PJ's around 7 on Saturday evening and stay till close. Then Sunday morning have an enjoyable #1 and #2 and just get in the car, it will be about the same as cutting 3 threads off each bolt. God Bless you brother, keep at it I enjoy the channel.
I really like the esprit. I have photo of a nice gyn metal gray mode in my album "cool cars that park in front of my house".
The suspension setup is remarkably similar to my 1980 TVR Tasmin suspension. Interesting.
There was probably a lot of borrowing in the UK motor industry back then
Oh the butchery, hackery and out right bodgery of your chassis. And I thought I saw it all in episode 36. Yeah I know, I've just watched episode 37, but not fully caught up from the beginning yet. I'm up to episode 16 ;). (Yeah, hackery and bodgery are words lol.)
you're playing with the natural order of things, the global ripple could be devastating :D
@@soupclassicmotoring LOL, global ripple. I feel like I've just upset the space time continuum because I'm not watch SOUP Classic Motoring in the correct order. :) :D
I watch this and Salvage Rebuilds. Two great progs.
cheers :)
You should get the chassis hot dipped galvanized, to stop rust, I know the delorean guys do with their chassis . There is a place in waterford that does galvanized dipping. Or ring fox’s gates they dip their gates. Hope it helps you with your project .
Getting lots of 'galvanise it' messages but not a chance. It's a fun time car not a winter daily. I'll use for GT's and it'll be garaged. Galv isn't correct for the model, it adds weight and the guys here at Delta will give it a paint job that'll out see me at least. Thanks for the thought ;)
Great progress George. Any plans to explore if there are any deviations in the chassis geometry? Make sure it's all square etc?
Man I have discovered my new favourite show ! Greeks do it better - Keep up the good work !
My mates got one will share this with him .
Deadly mate, thanks a mill!
If it’s not red, leave it in the shed!!! 😉
Fantastic work. Well done.
Can't decide if you mean if it's not a red car, or something else, but it rhymes so it must be true right? Thanks a mill Richard :)
SOUP Classic Motoring Hi George, you asked a question around 7:05 was it a Massey or a Star Wars pod racer. 😉
That’s the farmers way of saying a Massey Ferguson. 😂
Again, great work and I threw a couple of Euro your way for the welder. 👍🏻
@@Richard_Cunningham Haha didn't realise, all the better for the confusion. You never know I come from a farming family. Mate you're a legend, thanks a mill for the welder support. Very excited now to get one and start learning it. And I'll be hitting my tractor loving pals with that one ☝🏼
Awesome
Seems like you're on a roll with all this work - can't wait to see what condition that chassis is in after it's been blasted. As for me, it's the last few weeks of term and with too much on at work I haven't had a chance to get to the Vitesse brakes, so I'm getting a mechanic friend in. He's coming tomorrow to investigate and advise. And maybe fix them! Range Rover is still burbling well but I can hear a faint but ominous crunchy noise from the front brakes and when the steering's on full lock and the LPG needs a service so I've got to get the Vitesse brakes fixed so I can take the RR off the road and sort out those two issues. Does it ever end?
love the way these videos are animated, looking forward to the esprit chassis being blasted and repaired but am missing the rangerover or did I miss something
No mate you didn't miss anything, I'm a bit stuck with the RR. Have to just knuckle down and get it done, it's so close.
Was going to ask the same question about the Range Rover. Get it done George and then you can use it.
@@marksweetman8765 It's not really on the cards for use mate because the road tax is just not something I can justify. It'll stay around I think so that's an upshot, but yeah, have to get it finished!
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Wow I stumbled upon this channel by accident, and I'm glad I did! I have a '91 Esprit Turbo SE that I've been driving and fixing as I go, and these videos are great for a better visual of the underlying Esprit components. I have a good friend with a derelict S1 that would love to see these.
Tell him to get it done!, and thanks for the words, happy driving
When you're ready to re-run all your lines and pipes down that center tunnel, I would use the absolute most high-quality, durable stuff you can find. It'd be a nightmare to have to get back in there to service something. And to that point--would it be possible to engineer some kind of access points into it where you can peek in and see what's going on WITHOUT compromising the rigidity of it? I feel like that would be handy.
Yeah totally possible man and I’ve been wondering about that. There’s a braided clutch line available, I’ll do the best I can. Thanks pal ;)
don't forget to drill through the length of all studs (and bolts?) and weigh the swarf. I'm sure Chappers would approve ;D
What penetrating fluid are you using? It seems to work very well!
Do you think some modern coil overs would save same weight?
this is quality
thanks mate!
She is down to the bones now George thats the way lad will be a peach when done!
Things are finally getting interesting Sid, don’t be surprised if I come looking for help ;p
Neat.
Thanks Sven
This is great inspiration for my bent Lotus Europa project. My damage seems simple compared to yours, haha. Just a bent front T section and a bent right rear chassis wishbone. Wish me luck.
Sounds like we're even to me ;p Good luck man!
I ran a '71 Europa for a couple of years and loved it. I believe it was turned into a hovercraft for a TV show in the '90's.
Interesting take on the stripping. Subbed to see more.
Thanks Jonathan
great channellllllllllllllll
Thanks!
I wonder what a Custom Chassis would cost? It could possibly be made of Aluminum to save weight. In either case, steel or Aluminum, it would be powder coated in your choice of color and have access panels integrated to allow for servicing if and when needed. The chassis would include the control arms. The existing chassis has structural defects and has experienced abnormal flexing, which may have weakened the frame including micro fracturing. It is awful what was inflicted upon it.
Love the stop-motion. Hope it doesn't take too long?
It takes all of the time, ever ;)
I bought a bike half in bits and someone had fitted a head gasket made from a coke can! Best thing was it never had one from the factory anyway.
Love it!
Great video as usual. Make sure you use epoxy on the chassis!
It’s gonna get a proper pampering. Best i can do
@@soupclassicmotoring Good man. I'm hooked on your videos and currently 2 years into my own car restoration (Nissan Skyline).
@@AwesomeFPV Keep at it mate, what year is your Skyline?
@@soupclassicmotoring 1998 I saved it from the breakers and there is plenty rot on it! But like you i'm learning new skills like welding. :)
@@AwesomeFPV nothing better! Love the attitude, a car saved from the scrapper is like a rescue dog, for better or worse it'll always have a lot of character ;)
Effing brilliant
Thanks a mill mate. Purity of thought 😎
Massive Ergo Sum: I'm huge therefore I am. I didn't know Descartes made tractors.
The chassis is almost as lightweight as Descartes skull ;)
For a company so well regarded for engineering thanks to their Formula 1 pedigree in the 1970's, this car is positively agricultural. Inaccessible coolant pipes inside a closed space, inscrutable. It would for wiser and easier and safer to create a new backbone than fix that one, it looks like scrap.
And yet no one bats an eyelid at the ridiculous mechanical packaging of modern supercars. Lotus just get no quarter, and for no good reason. Thanks Nicholas
Yeah the S1/S2 chassis is very thin. Lotus seems to have developed the car to make it stronger, not reduce its weight. So any damage to your chassis will compromise the rigidity. My S1 had one full rear shim on one side only.
The boys on TLF have varying accounts so I’m confident every chassis was a little different. Whatever happens this one is my one and I love it ;)
@@soupclassicmotoring there's a lot of rubbish talked on there though. Many know little of the earlier series cars.
@@FridgeProductionsLtd Taking everything with a pinch of salt and at the end of the day I'm going to go with what feels right and appeals to my own sense of mechanical sympathy