@5:15 It's actually 4/5 cloning levels, since the MOS 6502 was actually MOS' 2nd attempt to clone the Motorolla 6800 CPU (their first clone was the 6501 but that was actually deemed too close by the courts to count as a separate chip and so was never put into full-scale production). It's actually nuts that hardware that was a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone could run anything if you think about it.
Came here to say this! Glad someone else knew. Edit: there are a few others pointing this out, but with less detail, but the first was only 1 month ago, 9 months after the video dropped. I guess she has been favoured by the algorithm and recommended to more geeks lately. Be careful. The mighty algorithm is watching!
The JY games just warm my damn heart. It's nice to know some people wanted to put out quality experiences in the Famiclone market, especially considering they were typically popular in places where more official gaming solutions weren't easily accessible without expensive importing, Brazil, China, etc. It's easy to look at the bootleg market and just see it as a bunch of cheap rip offs, but I do think it was born in a way out of necessity, and it's nice when some people go the extra mile and make their rip offs classy.
Somehow getting a custom cartridge seemed like a perfect story beat in a video about bootlegs, like why do you need the original bootleg brand when you can just get someone else to port super Mario world.
hummer cheng splitting the palette per sprite with obvious transitions looks sick felt illegal to watch that important fami lore pegasus family game ad holy holy what a video
Nintendo: "You can't have Yoshi on the NES" Hammer Chan: "Eat my entire ass" *does it in a year* Seriously these guys had actual talent to pull some of these things off.
I grew up with a famiclone, i didn't notice the difference in the sound before, but now that you compared them side by side, holy crap, the clone thing sounds so much homey.
Sorry for spamming your comment section, but this video really reignited my interest in old Famicom games! I was a hardcore collector of these things for many years and I even made a few "improvement hacks" of hummer team games, but I didn't release most of them. I remember discovering that YUSUPLAZ code way back in 2009.. Thanks for making this awesome trip down memory lane!
6:13 this is sergei suponev. he was responsible for pokemon kanto series airing in russia around y2k. he died in 2001 and tv bosses cancelled the show next year, its a real shame honestly
THANK YOU TH-cam FOR PUTTING THIS IS MY RECOMMENDED! I swear I’m binging your channel now and I think it’s so funny that I found someone who talks about all this niche stuff and I find interesting lol
F4mi, i can tell you've put all the effort in the world to make this. and oh my, the production value of this is through the roof! I never knew the Famicon bootleg rabbit hole went so deep... Let alone this "J.Y. Company" was responsible for making 7 Grand Dad! Overall, great video. i hope this video gets a billion views!
My favorite weird bootleg back-port was the Metal Slug Gameboy Color port, sold under the name "Terrifying 911" with a picture of Osama Bin Laden and the twin towers on it all coated in bootleg Pokemon card style holofoil
Wow, i remember playing the "family game" version of street fighter 2 here in Argentina when i was a kid. The game was so good that even specialized magazines talked about it. It makes me happy that someone else cares about these.
This is a reminder to double check your subscribe button! I've been watching f4mi for months thanks tot he algorithm and I just realized I never subscribed. This channel is great, thank you for the great content!
I know it's not the subject at hand, but hearing you mention the Super Joy III when discussing Famiclones hit me with a wave of nostalgia. My dad bought one at a flea market when I was a toddler, and technically speaking, it was my first game console. So that was a fun memory to have unexpectedly awakened.
I have a Phantom System. it’s an interesting clone. Colors tend to be better (more vivid actually) with this clone than the official Brazilian NES, sound is good too (it‘s a 1:1 reproduction at hardware level). Its story is more interesting though since it led Nintendo to hire Gradiente (the manufacturer) to officially produce and release SNES and NES here in Brazil.
@@leap123_ nope. Phantom System was unofficial. Once Gradiente Took the rights to distribute the official NES and SNES, they stoped the Phantom System production.
Late to reply to this video but this is amazing and possibly the best breakdown of the eastern europeran/Asian bootleg market I've ever seen, you've gained a sub ^-^
Good video, I really liked it, is always nice to see people talking about these things. By the way, I have an old full chip NTSC Famiclone without the inverted duty cycles.
@@f4micom My post just keeps getting deleted, so I won't put a direct link, photos are on imgur there: a/B0iUbi7 I recorded a sample of the audio, but sharing there will get the comment deleted I think.
Such a great coverage on the Famiclones. I grew up with a few of these clones and it warms my heart when someone talks about them. Once I've searched for a multicart to use on a Famiclones and I've found the same Polish guy you talked about in this video. Now I'm convinced that I should order one.
I live in Taiwan, and see these bootlegs all the time. Are there any others I should look for? I have a ton of offical Famicom games, but only the adult Hacker games, and some Sachen stuff.
This was _WILD_ and super informative too. As a lover of bootlegs, you just got a sub from me! And man, what a cast of guests. Love to see people like Alex and Nick helping out lesser-known people
I have stumbled on your channel a few times now. I just sat through this entire video and it was fantastic. I assumed you were a much larger youtuber that I just had not seen before. I had to take a double-take at your sub count. Fantastic quality, I hope your content hits the algorithm and you get the recognition you deserve. bravo on capturing my attention for 30 minutes to explain an obscure famiclone mario backport. 10/10 would watch again
The Gmail for contacting the actual guy and paying for the cartridge was such a twist I did not expect. I am just amazed by how much love and care you gave this video
Just found your channel and am making my way through all of your videos. Your videos are fantastic and insanely high quality! I've always had a fascination with obscure gaming media, especially bootlegs and romhacks, so this is right up my alley. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to more content :D
Checked out your channel from the wii video, your videos are great! I wouldn't expect this level of production value from such a small channel, but you nailed it.
5:24 Aaand the 6502 was designed as a cost-reduced, simplified version of the Motorola 6800 by a handful of ex-Motorola engineers who were salty the big M didn't let them work on this project...
Rz in polish is pronounced mostly like sh in English when it’s after p, k, t, ch. I’m only saying this so you could call our Krzy “kshy”. Guy made me two unattainable cartridges some time ago.
I absolutely loved this video! It is fascinating to see bootleg culture around the world, here in Argentina it was also everywhere on the 80', we had our famiclones with Super Mario 14 and the sorts hahaha
I love our russian Dendy brand. It was so stupid. Seriously, there was an entire TV show about games on these Dendy consoles, which is pretty cool. BUT, they advertised not regular games, but mostly bootleg ones, like mario 16
TH-cam recently showed me your channel and I've watched a good few videos now. Your storytelling, subject focus, and comedic timing are GREAT. I really like the direction of this one in particular. I was totally unaware how deep and understood the bootleg market is (this part of it was a little before my time), but I've always had an appreciation for people who put in the effort to make a really good ripoff. I've watched plenty of videos on bootlegs, the kind you say are often the butt of a joke on the internet, and so many of them look like total garbage. These ones seem like someone actually cared about recreating the feeling of a game that was otherwise inaccessible in a time and region. The restraints they work under make it unexpectedly impressive, too.
when I was a kid, my grandfather gave me an NES cartridge with a plain green label and this bootleg on it (probably the incomplete one). It's such a weird memory, it was the only bootleg game I ever encountered and I didn't know what to make of it until a decade later
really cool video, never knew that the full version of this bootleg was this expensive to get. also nice to see Mario Forever, even if just for a few seconds, that game is really fun
A small correction - Krzysio made the flashcart as part of university master thesis, not in high school. I know because I did my master's thesis at the same university under the same professor. In fact, seeing Krzysio's cartridge on the list of past master's thesis projects inspired me to do my master's in embedded systems programming.
I downloaded the ROM file of this so I could play the full game.......I used the Game Genie codes you suggested..........I left them on by accident and loaded up SMB1 and found that Mario now slides instead of runs.........it took away his run/walk animation. I like your channel, keep up the good work.
The famicom does have minimal hardware differences, compared to an NES. The main one I can think of is the sound chip. It’s clearer and has an extra audio channel. Certain games actually have their themes re-written for the NES versions.
oh wow, this video is amazing. They actually use fpga's instead of trying to do software emulation to fix the incompatibility. I suppose that makes sense since you're trying to run these on the original hardware.
I'm just going to throw this out there, my Famiclone holy grail. There is a string of Famiclone models out there that double as an 8-bit home computer running a bootleg BASIC (iirc there's 8 of them), at least ONE of which I know can interrupt Famicom games for PEEK and POKE commands and then resume them. I've only seen it once in a now deleted TH-cam video, but it was a pretty standard beige keyboard wedge shape with the cartridge slot jutting out of the "face" in the middle. If anyone has any information on this Computer/Famiclone, even just the make/model, I would GREATLY appreciate if you drop a comment!
I never realized that the SMB theme I remember as a kid was the bootleg one, when I heard it it brought a smile, thank you. I wonder if I remember other music from the era differently.
Holy shit this ended up so goooood
thanks again for the help man!
@@f4micom your accent is crazy hot dude
wow this was amazing
@@stellviahohenheim yours too, man
@@stellviahohenheim thanks man. I work out
@5:15 It's actually 4/5 cloning levels, since the MOS 6502 was actually MOS' 2nd attempt to clone the Motorolla 6800 CPU (their first clone was the 6501 but that was actually deemed too close by the courts to count as a separate chip and so was never put into full-scale production). It's actually nuts that hardware that was a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone could run anything if you think about it.
Came here to say this! Glad someone else knew.
Edit: there are a few others pointing this out, but with less detail, but the first was only 1 month ago, 9 months after the video dropped. I guess she has been favoured by the algorithm and recommended to more geeks lately. Be careful. The mighty algorithm is watching!
And that clone ended up being used on more things than the original
I just finished exams and a lot of homework (I have more exams next week but no big deal) THIS Is one of my rewards for surviving this hell of a week.
Same here but for 2 months
The JY games just warm my damn heart. It's nice to know some people wanted to put out quality experiences in the Famiclone market, especially considering they were typically popular in places where more official gaming solutions weren't easily accessible without expensive importing, Brazil, China, etc.
It's easy to look at the bootleg market and just see it as a bunch of cheap rip offs, but I do think it was born in a way out of necessity, and it's nice when some people go the extra mile and make their rip offs classy.
Somehow getting a custom cartridge seemed like a perfect story beat in a video about bootlegs, like why do you need the original bootleg brand when you can just get someone else to port super Mario world.
hummer cheng splitting the palette per sprite with obvious transitions looks sick
felt illegal to watch that important fami lore pegasus family game ad
holy holy what a video
Pegasus was good quality famiclone, and after transformation we don't recognise something like "intelecual property" or "trademark" to 1994
Are u still making videos
Pegasus Family Game ad is at 5:40
Nintendo: "You can't have Yoshi on the NES"
Hammer Chan: "Eat my entire ass" *does it in a year*
Seriously these guys had actual talent to pull some of these things off.
When Dr. Crachi invents a "Time Space" machine, he'd better send this man few years back so he can fix some of the worst ports before they ship.
I grew up with a famiclone, i didn't notice the difference in the sound before, but now that you compared them side by side, holy crap, the clone thing sounds so much homey.
Sorry for spamming your comment section, but this video really reignited my interest in old Famicom games! I was a hardcore collector of these things for many years and I even made a few "improvement hacks" of hummer team games, but I didn't release most of them. I remember discovering that YUSUPLAZ code way back in 2009.. Thanks for making this awesome trip down memory lane!
No worries, really happy to see my video having this effect on you :D
6:13 this is sergei suponev. he was responsible for pokemon kanto series airing in russia around y2k. he died in 2001 and tv bosses cancelled the show next year, its a real shame honestly
oh my god i never knew i wanted a channel run by a famiclone expert, this is just majestic
THANK YOU TH-cam FOR PUTTING THIS IS MY RECOMMENDED! I swear I’m binging your channel now and I think it’s so funny that I found someone who talks about all this niche stuff and I find interesting lol
F4mi, i can tell you've put all the effort in the world to make this. and oh my, the production value of this is through the roof!
I never knew the Famicon bootleg rabbit hole went so deep... Let alone this "J.Y. Company" was responsible for making 7 Grand Dad!
Overall, great video. i hope this video gets a billion views!
y no reply
My favorite weird bootleg back-port was the Metal Slug Gameboy Color port, sold under the name "Terrifying 911" with a picture of Osama Bin Laden and the twin towers on it all coated in bootleg Pokemon card style holofoil
This is such a good video.
Thank you man! Love your videos
This is very impressive! The editing is really good, and the references are top notch! Excellent job and keep it up!
this is literally one of my new favourite channels, i'm so glad i stumbled across it, congrats on your hard work
Wow, i remember playing the "family game" version of street fighter 2 here in Argentina when i was a kid. The game was so good that even specialized magazines talked about it. It makes me happy that someone else cares about these.
This is a reminder to double check your subscribe button! I've been watching f4mi for months thanks tot he algorithm and I just realized I never subscribed. This channel is great, thank you for the great content!
Wow you have no idea how much I'm interested in your videos. Seriously this is the stuff I love!
Amazing video, amazing channel. God-tier gaming content. Proud to be part of the pre-100k gang
I am part of the sub-200 subs gang
I am part of pre-10k gang
That Pegasus ad music hits different. Gives nostalgic vibes even though I wasn't raised in Eastern Europe.
I bought 6 bottles and cold tea and 2 bawls of popcorn for this, can’t wait to see it
6 windhoek containers*
Verlepte uitgerekte rooibos*
2 packs of woschester sauced billtong*
The Famiclone is using a wrong duty cicle for the square wave channels, is not inverting the cycles. Great video ✌️
This channel is the best of the "explain like I'm high" type of video without even trying, in the best sense possible
I know it's not the subject at hand, but hearing you mention the Super Joy III when discussing Famiclones hit me with a wave of nostalgia. My dad bought one at a flea market when I was a toddler, and technically speaking, it was my first game console. So that was a fun memory to have unexpectedly awakened.
I have a Phantom System. it’s an interesting clone. Colors tend to be better (more vivid actually) with this clone than the official Brazilian NES, sound is good too (it‘s a 1:1 reproduction at hardware level). Its story is more interesting though since it led Nintendo to hire Gradiente (the manufacturer) to officially produce and release SNES and NES here in Brazil.
So they basically sold official famiclones?
@@leap123_ nope. Phantom System was unofficial. Once Gradiente Took the rights to distribute the official NES and SNES, they stoped the Phantom System production.
I fucking love the vargkelethor references thrown in. Awesome channel, the algorithm has blessed me 😤
Love the video, love the editing, especially love the 100gecs reference. Can't wait for this channel to blow up.
Late to reply to this video but this is amazing and possibly the best breakdown of the eastern europeran/Asian bootleg market I've ever seen, you've gained a sub ^-^
wow, interesting video! It's cool to see a channel take bootlegs seriously, this stuff is facinating
Bravissima! This needs more views! It's a totally captivating documentary, and you're so funny! Thank you for putting in the effort for this.
Good video, I really liked it, is always nice to see people talking about these things.
By the way, I have an old full chip NTSC Famiclone without the inverted duty cycles.
Damn I could never find one without that glitch, that's pretty interesting
What's its manufacturer?
@@f4micom It just says "Family Video Computer Game", can take photos of it and the chips if you want.
@@Rulumi sure, that would be great! thank you
@@f4micom My post just keeps getting deleted, so I won't put a direct link, photos are on imgur there: a/B0iUbi7
I recorded a sample of the audio, but sharing there will get the comment deleted I think.
Such a great coverage on the Famiclones. I grew up with a few of these clones and it warms my heart when someone talks about them. Once I've searched for a multicart to use on a Famiclones and I've found the same Polish guy you talked about in this video. Now I'm convinced that I should order one.
This is the type of video I stick around on TH-cam for. Great work!
I've always been interested in GBA and later so never really got a glimpse into the NES/SNES scene until these vids. Really interesting stuff!
This video is so good. Its only matter of time before your channel explodes.
I live in Taiwan, and see these bootlegs all the time. Are there any others I should look for? I have a ton of offical Famicom games, but only the adult Hacker games, and some Sachen stuff.
why has this video not dominated the algorithm yet?
i really love watching long videos but this never showed up until now.
YOU DESERVE MROE DARLING
at 5:23 the clone levels go even deeper, the 6502 is a clone of the motorola 6800 processor
This was _WILD_ and super informative too. As a lover of bootlegs, you just got a sub from me!
And man, what a cast of guests. Love to see people like Alex and Nick helping out lesser-known people
I have stumbled on your channel a few times now. I just sat through this entire video and it was fantastic. I assumed you were a much larger youtuber that I just had not seen before. I had to take a double-take at your sub count. Fantastic quality, I hope your content hits the algorithm and you get the recognition you deserve. bravo on capturing my attention for 30 minutes to explain an obscure famiclone mario backport. 10/10 would watch again
I don’t even know much about the Basics of coding and this type of engineering, but I love hearing how passionate you are! It keeps me listening❤
Love these videos f4mi!! Can't wait for the next ones :)
The Gmail for contacting the actual guy and paying for the cartridge was such a twist I did not expect.
I am just amazed by how much love and care you gave this video
Just found your channel and am making my way through all of your videos. Your videos are fantastic and insanely high quality! I've always had a fascination with obscure gaming media, especially bootlegs and romhacks, so this is right up my alley. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to more content :D
The editing on your videos is always top tier, can't believe I haven't found your channel sooner. Keep it up :)
Checked out your channel from the wii video, your videos are great! I wouldn't expect this level of production value from such a small channel, but you nailed it.
This went way deeper than I expected, I knew about the two versions but not the lore around it
I love your sense of humor, these videos are 👌
5:24 Aaand the 6502 was designed as a cost-reduced, simplified version of the Motorola 6800 by a handful of ex-Motorola engineers who were salty the big M didn't let them work on this project...
This channel is amazing. I already knew about this but there were so many details I didn’t know
Loved the video. Hope to see your channel grow quickly, you deserve it.
your channel is underrated, congrats for the incredible content
If the Connecticut Leather Company could get into game console manufacturing, why shouldn't a jeans company?
This was so good and I'm so glad I discovered your channel! What a hidden gem
I only just found your channel but man your videos are so captivating, you really know how to write! Keep it up! :D
Your editing is incredible
As italian i've loved this video, good job f4mi, im slowling recovering your videos in free time
Your videos are brilliant, no idea how you don't have more subscribers
Great video. Being from the United States, I don’t know much about the Famicon or Fami-clones. Very informative and interesting.
yay! f4mi is back!
This was incredibly informative and entertaining. Thank you for the video!
This is the second time TH-cam recommended me your videos and it really did caught my interest, Very good video
17:04 Cave Johnson liked that
Rz in polish is pronounced mostly like sh in English when it’s after p, k, t, ch. I’m only saying this so you could call our Krzy “kshy”. Guy made me two unattainable cartridges some time ago.
Seeing Roberto Artigiani's infamous super joy commercial opened a door in my brain that i thought (and wished) was closed forever. Amazing video btw
I absolutely loved this video! It is fascinating to see bootleg culture around the world, here in Argentina it was also everywhere on the 80', we had our famiclones with Super Mario 14 and the sorts hahaha
Absolutely loved this video! Thanks so much.
Your content is amazing! Keep up the good work!!
and in that jungle of unlicensed 8 bit chaos there are such gems to discover, who knows whats still out there ^^
A whole side of videogames and their history I didn’t even know about, very cool.
17:33 that’s enough peanuts to buy 100 goofy goober back scratchers
I been binging a bunch of your videos while working and absolutely loving them :D
I'm from South America and jesus christ this video was a nostalgia trip. This right here is my childhood lol.
Honestly this is my first video I have seen of you. And now I have a new favorite TH-camr
Mysterious Swedish guy laughing and suffering as Easter eggs.
I love our russian Dendy brand. It was so stupid. Seriously, there was an entire TV show about games on these Dendy consoles, which is pretty cool. BUT, they advertised not regular games, but mostly bootleg ones, like mario 16
Really glad I randomly clicked on this video when it appeard in my suggested today, even happier I found a new channel to binge.
TH-cam recently showed me your channel and I've watched a good few videos now. Your storytelling, subject focus, and comedic timing are GREAT. I really like the direction of this one in particular. I was totally unaware how deep and understood the bootleg market is (this part of it was a little before my time), but I've always had an appreciation for people who put in the effort to make a really good ripoff. I've watched plenty of videos on bootlegs, the kind you say are often the butt of a joke on the internet, and so many of them look like total garbage. These ones seem like someone actually cared about recreating the feeling of a game that was otherwise inaccessible in a time and region. The restraints they work under make it unexpectedly impressive, too.
when I was a kid, my grandfather gave me an NES cartridge with a plain green label and this bootleg on it (probably the incomplete one). It's such a weird memory, it was the only bootleg game I ever encountered and I didn't know what to make of it until a decade later
really cool video, never knew that the full version of this bootleg was this expensive to get.
also nice to see Mario Forever, even if just for a few seconds, that game is really fun
A small correction - Krzysio made the flashcart as part of university master thesis, not in high school. I know because I did my master's thesis at the same university under the same professor. In fact, seeing Krzysio's cartridge on the list of past master's thesis projects inspired me to do my master's in embedded systems programming.
This video is facinating. Amazon needs to pick this up as a documentary.
I downloaded the ROM file of this so I could play the full game.......I used the Game Genie codes you suggested..........I left them on by accident and loaded up SMB1 and found that Mario now slides instead of runs.........it took away his run/walk animation. I like your channel, keep up the good work.
13:42 YOU!
You know what? We've waited long enough.
Let's leave him to his 8 hour videos on unknown TV shows and you'll be making Petscop 2.
Oh, I'm so glad to see an eng-speaking content creator talking about famiclone scene and ESPECIALY about western europe gaming scene. Keep it up!
With every NES/Famicom bootleg video comes with Joel from Vargskelethor
5:23 and the MOS 6502 is based on the Motorola 6800! Even more cloning!
I was so confused I was like “what about super mario world” and then it turned out to be the mystery game lol
god, im so glad i've found this channel
I'm only 4 minutes in and you've become the first TH-camr I've watched to ACTUALLY mention duty swap and understand it. Thank you thank you thank you
The famicom does have minimal hardware differences, compared to an NES. The main one I can think of is the sound chip. It’s clearer and has an extra audio channel. Certain games actually have their themes re-written for the NES versions.
This video was an absolute riot. Banger from the start. Juicy.
Thank you TH-cam for showing me ur videos again in my feed even tho I’ve been subscribed for a while never been notified of any other vid
oh wow, this video is amazing. They actually use fpga's instead of trying to do software emulation to fix the incompatibility. I suppose that makes sense since you're trying to run these on the original hardware.
Денди, денди, мы все любим денди! Денди - играют все!
I'm just going to throw this out there, my Famiclone holy grail. There is a string of Famiclone models out there that double as an 8-bit home computer running a bootleg BASIC (iirc there's 8 of them), at least ONE of which I know can interrupt Famicom games for PEEK and POKE commands and then resume them. I've only seen it once in a now deleted TH-cam video, but it was a pretty standard beige keyboard wedge shape with the cartridge slot jutting out of the "face" in the middle. If anyone has any information on this Computer/Famiclone, even just the make/model, I would GREATLY appreciate if you drop a comment!
if i was mr. nintendo i would be sleeping with one eye open
I never realized that the SMB theme I remember as a kid was the bootleg one, when I heard it it brought a smile, thank you. I wonder if I remember other music from the era differently.