Entering Didcot Parkway on the 19th August 2010, 43196 is seen ablaze, detrained, shut down and seen leaving under one power car. See vid for details. Enjoy!
Only time I've heard an HST sound like an old EMU from about the same time. As said below, number four traction motor or transmission gears fault nothing to be too excited about. New wheelset, and new motor, and off you go again. Refurb the old ones, if poss, and off they go again too. These are old ladies now, but still offer an excellent travelling enviroment for the punters, and good reliability. Like any older vehicle they need more TLC than the privatising pirates like to give.
@@marcuspotter5590 Oh I didn't realise he's passed away. Nice guy & intelligent. And actually called River (i asked him, since i'd only ever heard of River Phoenix before haha).
I used to drive the 43's out of Kings X up the ECML... With 4500 hp under the bonnet ( 2250 hp ) one up front and one up the botty there was plenty of power on tap... Pulling out of the station on notch five with the Paxman Valenta turbo's screaming their little heads off and clouds of exhaust smoke ( sorry Greta Thunberg ) was something to behold with more excitement to enjoy... 125 mph here we come although they would top 148 mph... Now there is food for thought but as I did not fancy tea and biscuits with the Boss well need I say more..
@HSTcallum not a clue. seeing as passengers were detrained and it were ecs in the end under 1 powercar i guess they were off to a depot of some sort! thanks.
Excellent footage, looks like distributor on the power car was stuck, thus causing the brakes to rub, isolate distributor on that bogie make sure the brake blocks aren't rubbing, do a brake test and away you go.
I was the driver of this train, and actually it wasn't a fire, it was actually me inadvertently wanking onto the hotplate in the buffet car whilst thinking of a Deltic. It briefly formed the consistency of an omelette but then started smoking heavily. Cheers
They're not safer though really. Thwe technology is pretty much the same thing.... a diesel engine providing electrical power to traction motors. However, with a Voyager, if the motors or engine catches fire, there are people sat above it. On a HST, there's no-one sat in the powercar but the driver.
Traction Motor's commutator flashes across to earth basicly, normaly caused by dirt and carbon brush dust inside the motor. The commutator being made of copper basicly melts / burns when it happens and everything basicly desinigrates into a big mess!
@hstscotsman Nothing to do with a hot box. If it was, it would have to be removed from the train on a wheel skate at 5mph. Thats a typical TM flashover. You can hear it popping and banging as it went past.
Strange how the bogies make an electric train (dc traction motor noise) from 1.20 onwards .......I noticed this once before watching an IC125 depart Bodmin Parkway for Penzance with the rear power car working and assumed it was the power car traction motors making the noise. Probably not judging by this video?
@@scaneron8457 Sorry for late response, I wasn't informed. The rear power car was on. I've since realised that the wheelsets make this noise, an example being `XPT leaves Penrith for Dubbo', one of my favorite videos.
Class 43s are the slam door 🚪 trains 🚆 are with First Great Western, renamed Great Western Railway 🚃 in September 2015. Great Western Railway are likely to withdraw the class 43s for provincial services by around perhaps 🤔 Saturday 9th December 2022 after they were on the local services since perhaps the year 2017. By early 2024 class 43s could be with 2 rail operators are CrossCountry and ScotRail. Formerly allocated to East Midlands Railway, Grand Central and Great North Eastern Railway 🚃. Stopped being used for intercity services used for Great Western Railway in early 2019. 😃
I think should plans updated for it the railway. Is might is operation work with new solar system like hybrid train better will save money for usual. There was problem with train engine might over-powering or burst main engine???
A: Smoking is not permitted...
HST: *FILLS ENTIRE STATION WITH SMOKE*
lol
LOL
Only time I've heard an HST sound like an old EMU from about the same time. As said below, number four traction motor or transmission gears fault nothing to be too excited about. New wheelset, and new motor, and off you go again. Refurb the old ones, if poss, and off they go again too. These are old ladies now, but still offer an excellent travelling enviroment for the punters, and good reliability. Like any older vehicle they need more TLC than the privatising pirates like to give.
Fully agreed. RIP River Huntingdon.
@@marcuspotter5590 Oh I didn't realise he's passed away. Nice guy & intelligent.
And actually called River (i asked him, since i'd only ever heard of River Phoenix before haha).
Great vid mate! The problem causing the smoke is: A brake that is stuck. The Brakedisc overheats and starts smoking like this.
43169 with a MB190 engine had a serious fire in the rectifier. Damage was quite severe and it had to go back to Derby for repair.
I used to drive the 43's out of Kings X up the ECML... With 4500 hp under the bonnet ( 2250 hp ) one up front and one up the botty there was plenty of power on tap... Pulling out of the station on notch five with the Paxman Valenta turbo's screaming their little heads off and clouds of exhaust smoke ( sorry Greta Thunberg ) was something to behold with more excitement to enjoy... 125 mph here we come although they would top 148 mph... Now there is food for thought but as I did not fancy tea and biscuits with the Boss well need I say more..
Did you ever drive one that had the Mirrlees MB190 engine. They had even more power. 🙂
With these trains being so old they are bound to have the odd problem. This looked like oil over heating rather than fire.
OMG! EXCELLENT! call it, HST on fire! should get more views
Jeeez! Ooer I was on a HST that day, think it was the service before this one lol
@HSTcallum not a clue. seeing as passengers were detrained and it were ecs in the end under 1 powercar i guess they were off to a depot of some sort! thanks.
I just got to this after watching Japanese Rail Videos,It's a bit of a reality check.
that engine was not a blaze, so over dramatic but it was a good video
Excellent footage, looks like distributor on the power car was stuck, thus causing the brakes to rub, isolate distributor on that bogie make sure the brake blocks aren't rubbing, do a brake test and away you go.
Dump the shit
No smoking at the station and a smoking HST comes into the station
ouch poor FGW HST :)
@HSTcallum I would have thought it would goto the nearest maintenanance depot, which from Didcot, would be Old Oak Common???
How there was smoke puffing out of the side of the hst
I was the driver of this train, and actually it wasn't a fire, it was actually me inadvertently wanking onto the hotplate in the buffet car whilst thinking of a Deltic. It briefly formed the consistency of an omelette but then started smoking heavily. Cheers
They're not safer though really.
Thwe technology is pretty much the same thing.... a diesel engine providing electrical power to traction motors.
However, with a Voyager, if the motors or engine catches fire, there are people sat above it.
On a HST, there's no-one sat in the powercar but the driver.
lol nice one secound one today fgw had fail lol liked
This is the exact same as the 43192 fire
Great vid! Was she continuing the service or heading for liara depot?
Interesting stuff. Was it delaid much. was at Didcot last week. Thanks
Hello
Traction Motor's commutator flashes across to earth basicly, normaly caused by dirt and carbon brush dust inside the motor. The commutator being made of copper basicly melts / burns when it happens and everything basicly desinigrates into a big mess!
I think I saw Sick Note!!!
(London's Burning)
@MK55A Don't normally hear that because of the engine noise. They sound like EE507s
@midlandspotters sure is
Our hitachi motors on our networkers seem to be suffering from the same issue.
@hstscotsman Nothing to do with a hot box. If it was, it would have to be removed from the train on a wheel skate at 5mph. Thats a typical TM flashover. You can hear it popping and banging as it went past.
@HSTcerney ya mean fire!
Brakes smoking... kevinsway - do you mean "would HAVE been nice to HAVE seen"?
R.I.P InterCity 125
I seem to remember that it was 3 phase cables burnt out, 1 had sustained a trauma and shorted across to the other 2, nothing too serious,
@zaccee1996 yes the second failed HST
Interesting that from about 1:22s it sounds like an "all electric", anyone explain that?
lol not exactly a blaze now is it, good video, would of been nice to of seen the of the power cars brakes smoking.
parking brake left on?
You wouldnt be able to get brake release if the parking brake was left on.
forgot to put that is one claggy hst my lordz
I HAVE HEARD OF CLAG BUT THIS IS SILLY LOL
Strange how the bogies make an electric train (dc traction motor noise) from 1.20 onwards .......I noticed this once before watching an IC125 depart Bodmin Parkway for Penzance with the rear power car working and assumed it was the power car traction motors making the noise. Probably not judging by this video?
Martindyna was the rear power car off?
@@scaneron8457 Sorry for late response, I wasn't informed.
The rear power car was on. I've since realised that the wheelsets make this noise, an example being `XPT leaves Penrith for Dubbo', one of my favorite videos.
@freightliner86501 yup!
Looks like its coming from the external compressors rather than the engine?
@55022RSG I bet Traction motor overloads and fire's are common place for you then with ELR's driver's lol.
Class 43s are the slam door 🚪 trains 🚆 are with First Great Western, renamed Great Western Railway 🚃 in September 2015. Great Western Railway are likely to withdraw the class 43s for provincial services by around perhaps 🤔 Saturday 9th December 2022 after they were on the local services since perhaps the year 2017. By early 2024 class 43s could be with 2 rail operators are CrossCountry and ScotRail. Formerly allocated to East Midlands Railway, Grand Central and Great North Eastern Railway 🚃. Stopped being used for intercity services used for Great Western Railway in early 2019. 😃
@formidable38 what's a TM flashover?
I think should plans updated for it the railway. Is might is operation work with new solar system like hybrid train better will save money for usual. There was problem with train engine might over-powering or burst main engine???
Some time ago BR did experiment with a hybrid IC125 but it was found to be, for whatever reason, not commercially viable.
@midlandspotters wot woz the other one?
Not engine fire , brakes or traction motor or compressor .
More like a LST at that point lol.
i saw another hst at the end
@goodchappy Traction motors whining !
@HSTHoward thanks howard
That's why voyagers are safer
londons burning series 10
I'm assuming this was running on an MTU lump?
@HSTHoward huh? dawlish?
@justinfoulger nope
clag!
@zaccee1996 dawlish.. loss of air
@HitchinTrains lol
@trainsArejustGreat lol
bit of a panic drama queen arent you
@55022RSG LOL
shitty mtu engines