Ram Dass' Here and Now Podcast Ep. 186: The Chain of Reactivity
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2021
- In this Q&A session from 1989, Ram Dass answers questions about addiction, greed, and lust, and talks about the chain of reactivity that fuels our deepest attachments.
Show Notes
The Chain of Reactivity
Ram Dass answers a question about dealing with addictions and attachments. He explores the roots of suffering, and how we develop addictions to things which take away that pain and make us feel at home. He talks about the chain of reactivity that fuels our deepest attachments, and how spiritual practice helps us develop the awareness to begin breaking the chain.
“Spiritual practices, compared to having sex or compared to taking coke or something, is more like delayed gratification versus immediate gratification. So when you start to stand back and see your predicament and see what you’re doing, there’s a way, from a spiritual perspective, in which you begin with that slight bit of awareness to extricate yourself from the chain of reactivity that we’re talking about.” - Ram Dass
Identification with Desire (27:45)
Ram Dass answers a question about how to be in a relationship with God, talking about how we can get attached to our models of God. He suggests turning to the wisdom of nature. Ram Dass then answers a question about dealing with greed and other strong attachments. He talks about how identification with desire is imprisoning and gives his take on Right Livelihood.
“Identification with the desire is imprisoning. And yet, you have desires. And the question is how you can be involved in life with desires and still not be attached to them. How can you be fully human, with all of this stuff, without the identification?” - Ram Dass
The Yearning for Intimacy (45:40)
Ram Dass answers a question about the yearning for intimacy with another human being, and what to do with sexual energy. He explores how intimate relationships have the potential of being one the most evolved ways of coming into spirit, but they are a very complicated dance. He talks about working with lust and shares some thoughts on being alone.
“Until you can find the place in yourself that can be at peace without having what you want, then you are in the optimum position to get what you want. Because until then, your need for it is creating something in everybody you meet that is reducing the potential of that relationship to be meeting a true being of spirit in the right place.” - Ram Dass
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Thank you! Very kind.
Thanks
Public service announcement€^^^^
I'd like to save you (12:57) if this is your 2nd, 3rd, 4th or (x)th Listening 🎧 #YoureWelcome
Thank you!
love to you all
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Love to us all
Ram Dass forever alive in all of our hearts! 💛☀🔥🎶
Raghu, thanks for posting another RD talk; I associate your voice with being on solo meditation retreats, because that’s when I binge listen to these talks in the evenings. I so appreciate you and your crew putting these together. Peace, brother man😊
Thanks for sharing this, 🎯♥😶 🙏☮ wishing love, grace, courage and understanding for all
He is so real and transparent in his heart that i wish i could listen about his life with a cup of tea and music in the background.. faced through the ocean, the sound of the ocean.. Thank you Ram Dass so much for everything forever.. Ram Ram 🌞🙏🏾💛
14:16 Ram Dass begins.
Thank u
Ram Dass's perceptions are a blessing
I would have donated money to this organization if it wasn't for the guy Marcus that loves to hear his own voice.
Ram ram 🌹
I've listened to this several times over the last year and a half or so. As an addict of various sorts, I'm drawn to it and have worked to incorporate exactly what he is saying. So every now and then I listen again to see if I'm at a different point along the process. And for the past year I've been stuck in the area between "cutting off the cycle after completing the act and not allowing the guilt to set in and going right back into spiritual practice" and "seeing the emptiness of the act itself and not completing the act." I have to say it's a very frustrating place to be in because I can plainly see it always leads to the same place but I'm still choosing the "little candy bar now" over and over and over again.
Developing a spiritual perspective towards addiction versus say a 12 step method is tricky business. In my heart I know Ram Dass (along with Alan Watts and other spiritual teachers) are right. 12 step never worked for me, and spent a good 15 years in and out of a half a dozen fellowships. Certain aspects of the most intense and destructive parts of addiction such as hard drugs has fallen away just as he described. But the more deep seeded attachments such as sex addiction has not. My experience is like he says. It is fruitless to try to use the mind to stop before it naturally falls away. Is there truly nothing to do but to keep learning, be patient and gentle with myself and wait until all the "old karma to run off"? It's like a purgatory between knowing conceptionally and experiencing the freedom.
12 steps are attentive to mind & body *aslso say " this isnt only work theres more re step 11 "spiritual growth"
*SEE " GABOR MATE" EXPERT ON HEALING ADDICTION THRU
COMPASSIONATE INQUIRY
Self inquiry will definitely help but it will change the way you view everything and the ego will not like that but if you push through that you will be left with what’s real and what’s not and experience the oneness that all these spiritual people talk about. If you are not trying to evolve spiritual don’t do it. ☮️ ❤
It took me years to quit smoking. First i wanted to smoke but was trying to force myself to stop. Eventually i got frustrated with it all though and thought man im sick of this stinky expensive shit, i don't want it anymore! Then i was able to quit.
Om namaskaram everyone, may you all dwell harmoniously with The all loving awareness you are and what not 🦋❤️💖✊
Thank you for putting these online!
Beautiful 🌞🦋
Much love!
Thank you Raghu
Thank you for all of his work you've helped put out. Ram Dass has clarified so many things I knew were different, and didn't have the language for yet.
Sign of a great teacher! :)
"How poignant is the human condition." #RamDas #LovingKindness
Don't you all commenting learn anything from baba ram Dass? Use your mind to appreciate the fact that ragu martin is bringing you closer to ramdass by sharing his collections.. Thus bringing you closer to maharaji and becoming one with your creator
Ram Dass shares were all vehicles for love and martin is a vessel
Shalomba
🙏🏼
See yourself in a new way and its all you
I got there for a bit. Wow a beautiful visit just me and so much more
What is the psychedelic based podcast that is coming in October?? 👩🏼🚀
Ugh Raghu Marcus! Why in LA? That’s so far away haha. I guess I’ll have to join the live stream. My goal is to meet both you and Duncan in my lifetime if I’m able. I feel like you both represent Ram Dass teachings and love very well.
Raghu Marcus. I love Your intos. Its all love❤️
12:58
❤️❤️❤️🙏❤️❤️❤️
Sriramjairam
No one...literally no one wants to wait 13 mins for the intro to end. We are here for good ideas and perspective.
I am the “no one” you speak of. You need to really listen to what Ram Dass teaches, Good ideas and perspective will only be absorbed by an open and loving mind. Consider the intro where your work lies.
@@danteblack4860 perhaps I was too harsh, but doesn't an open mind still have preferences? Why else would we continue to listen to Ram Dass?
@@danteblack4860 Although, I suppose the doctor has no reason to visit the healthy...
Preference only exist in the realm of the ego. So the path will ultimately melt away all of these preferences. Leaving a comment much like speaking… has to be done with love and compassion. When it’s not, it just creates more ego. I leave this comment in hopes that it may help you on your path. Best of luck to you! ✌️
@@danteblack4860 I am unsure of my path...I know the ego does not exist, yet I do not necessarily want to completely remove the illusion. I enjoy my life and think that this game seems worth the ride. Do you think it is necessary to remove the illusion? My sense has been that as long as I consider the irony of my "choices" and realize the hypocrisy in what I say and do, it merely adds to the play. Is this wrong, in your opinion?
download, then cut out the first 12:57 out of the clip. Then listen.
What did they do with all the old content?!?!
hello soul
56:15
*THE CRA*
The girl who asked the question about codependency to god sounds like a total babe.
I love you Ragu but 10min intro max please. I've stopped listening to BHN podcasts just because the intro was taking way to long and I didnt want to listen to another one for a week. Bullet points, also please don't talk over guests because it comes off rude and the people you interview are to nice to correct you. All out of love.
I fast forward to the beginning of RD's dissertation.
I enjoy RM's intros
@@MattyLiam333 I usually do but the four noble truths intro was 10/10
@@MattyLiam333 Always, Otherwise you might fall asleep or zone out.
Thank you.
I love Raghu, but his intros need to be much shorter. It always is a chore to figure out when the actual lecture everyone clicked for starts.
was there a scandal concerning ram dass hitting on his young (male) devotees?
I have heard about this behavior of his long ago from a disgusted first hand witness
RD was not special. But still as perfect as we all are !
So much talking about what is going to be talked about... At the start of every video.
shhhhhh
Ram Dass is a Charlatan.
He never considered himself a truly awakened being...in fact, he states in several talks that he will be on the path for the rest of his life, and likely beyond...so I don't understand your skepticism. I think Rd is an extremely gifted teacher - inspiring, articulate and forceful.
I read maybe 10 years back about Richard hitting on his youthful and male followers.
Every great teacher has their vices. Take from them those things you want to emulate and leave the vices behind. That’s what some indigenous refer to as “borrowing.” No one is perfect
We see the world not as it is, but as we are programmed to see it.
@@larryprimeau7738 why have you said this in multiple comments as it being gay is a problem