How NOT To Buy an RV: 9 Mistakes People Make
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If you're thinking about buying an RV or camper, there are a number of mistakes you definitely do not want to make! Today, we're giving you our best RV buying tips and advice that you must know BEFORE you buy an RV. Let us know your best advice for how to buy an RV in the comments!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 RV dealerships
5:32 Brand new isn't problem free
7:56 Look beyond the surface
11:48 Prepare for warranty offers
14:08 Negotiate Price
15:36 Shop for Financing
16:36 Read your contract
17:44 Get an inspection
21:05 Understand your warranty
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Tell us your RV buying stories and what tips you learned along the way!
📣MOST 1/2 ton trucks can not safely tow a 5th wheel 📣 Know your tow vehicle limits! DO NOT rely on the dealer/salesperson - shockingly, some will say anything just to "get the sale".
Great video guys, thanks. Ohhh, and I'm guessing you're headed for the mother land (Indiana) ::wink:: 😉
Get a heavy duty truck jack! Rotating those tires using the jack you used is very dangerous! Especially when you are posting about “what NOT to do”! We Love you guys and just want to keep you safe. ❤
Along those lines, you should consider using a torque wrench to check all of those fasteners! Lug nuts, the nuts/bolts under the RV...being under or over con tightening can cause big issues! Just want you folks to be safe! Take care, and keep the content coming!!!
Yup, back in my younger days I stretched a few threads😢
Please, I beg you, get a 1/2 inch torque wrench. Torque the bolts for the jacks and tires. One youtuber lost a 5th wheel, wheel, because he used an impact tool, which over tightened the bolts. The bolts sheered off not far down then road.
My wife and I really enjoy your videos! Before we could remember your channel one of us would say, "I wonder if the beauty and the hillbilly have a new video? 🙂
Great video, we have been full-time for almost two years but pretty much did all of those mistakes.
Yep, you need to keep a torque wrench
Agreed. I got mine primarily when I bought my trailer, let alone for my truck n
Absolutely!! On the Torque wrench
Also, I've gone to Discount Tire and got a free rotation ..they would probably have a lug nut ..just sayin...😂
And please get a better jack for your truck...that one sucks.
I think I sent you a link for a cord reel that I got on Amazon...I love it!
@@sactoindyfan I keep a socket for the truck and one for the trailer that I bought special and keep in the rv toolbox
@@blaineolmstead237 exactly what I have as well!
If you choose to do business with Discount Tire make sure to keep a torque wrench with you and check all your lug nuts to make sure they are torqued to factory specs before leaving the property. I personally know three people who have had loose and missing lug nuts after leaving Discount Tire. My brother got out on the highway and had one of his front tires wobbling. He had to stop and tighten up his lug nuts. The management is very strict on rushing the technicians and only allowing them a certain amount of time per vehicle. They start cutting corners to avoid being chewed out.
You purchased your tires at discount tire. Why didn't you allow them to rotate them? They rotate and balance them at the same time free.
Tell them about your lug nut and they'll replace it. Been there, done that.
And my guess is Indiana.
Def let DT do the rotations.
Amen on the discount tire.
Free rotation and balance as well as TP checks.
They will replace the missing lug nut as well.
I’ve used them for years.
Yep, that’s what I do. Also get single lug nuts from dealership at around $10 each and DT will most likely reimburse you.
Arcadia, Maine! Have fun!
Great video again 👍
This was a fun video. Really liked the format...and the info!
I find it strange that a lug nut is totally missing because Discount Tire's policy is to hand torque each lug nut to spec when replacing a wheel. However, I suppose anyone can miss one occasionally.
Just found your travel and subscribed. Appreciate your info and like your vibe :)
I didn’t deal with a dealership, I bought direct from manufacturer. I believe this is the best way to go.
That's awesome. Not many manufacturers are able to do that. What brand did you go with?
Escape, a Canadian built fibreglass egg trailer.
Wow another great video. Thank you for all your advice and tips much appreciated.
thanks so much for watching!
Gorgeous! We close on our house in Brookings on 4/5. Our favorite place on earth!
I started watching u guys couple months ago and I gotta say. Awesome content. Probably my favorite people to watch Thank you Hopefully I'll be full timing soon
Thank you so much, what a great compliment!!
Most likely headed to Arizona. All of the snowbirds here in Oregon head that way for winter. I moved my jacks up as high as we could since we do a lot of boondocking. In fact, since moving them up, I now have to use the blocks otherwise we run out of jack height. Also, since Craig is now using the impact wrench, make sure you’re not over tightening your lug nuts. I always use a torque wrench. That Milwaukee driver can put them on so tight you chance breaking the lug bolts when trying to loosen the nuts.
We do love Arizona for the winter! And yeah, I think it's good we have the taller Ox Blox jack stand blocks now because it gives that extra height or else we'd be using up all our yellow blocks too. And yeah the impact wrench can definitely overtighten if you're not careful!
Thanks for the great video guys
Thanks for watching!
E-trailer is a great resource. Congratulations on the collaboration!
I'm always surprised at all the things you can find on there! Thank you!
I’ve been binge watching your videos since Baja with your old rig. The last 6 or so videos have changed a lot. Craig, your editing is really awesome. Both you and Victoria have really fallen into a groove too. You both are very entertaining. Great job! I’m not an RVer but really enjoy your videos.
I hope Brinkley is helping you out in some way $$$ as you are doing a really good job in promoting their product. If I was looking into buying an RV I would certainly be looking at a Brinkley.
Keep up the good work!!!
Something you may find of better use for your truck jack is a Hummer H1 Scissor Jack. You will have to search eBay or military surplus, but it's rated for 3.5 tons. Never need to worry about bottle jack failure due to leak. I have one for my Tundra as most OEM scissor jacks and/or bottle jacks are so poorly made.
Craig..can we hire you to tag team inspect my next RV purchase with my husband ? "Be Better" can be your slogan..Love it! 100% Full support
E trailer is always a win! We just got some parts for our tank valves that we couldn’t find at the rv service centers. Great partner to pair with.
I believe you are heading to Indiana 💕
Arizona I hope so weather is great right now
i bought a new to me jayco eagle last spring from bishs rv meridian idaho great experience
We were just in Dead Lakes for the month of January in our Z3100.
Pretty sure in the last video you said something about going to Elkhart for something. You should use a torque wrench on your lug nuts.
Bought our used trailer from dealership, didnt get an inspection, however did get the dealership's inspection sheet. Also purchased extended warranty because first time owning. Also purchased coach net because they will come to us wherever we are. Haven't needed coach net yet for trailer but have used a few times for vehicle.
Never tighten bolts with an impact on high. You can easily over torque a bolt. it's fine to use to spin it on. But final tightness should be with a human driven wrench or torque wrench.
Great meeting you all today.... your secret is safe with us, lol
Really enjoying your videos just a quick question with all the videos about frame flexing and one possible cause could be the change of king pins. Did Brinkley engineering review your new goose neck king pin?
Hey y'all! I bought a 2024 Forest River Timberwolf Destination RV. I went to McKeever RV and Marine in Sweetwater, TN. Mary was fantastic! I didn't need to finance . I've been able to call and ask questions no matter what it is. I'm retired and want to just live here in the area.
I really like your videos. I've been watching for a few months now. Happy travels!!
South Dakota
We have purchased 4 RVs from the same salesman. Excellent person, actually honest (or at least seems to be), gave us great prices and excellent tradein values. Byron Outdoor Supercenter in Byron, GA.
Oklahoma my guess is your next stop,but it could be Virginia😮,Great viedo,good information
Canada, I my guess. Very interesting video.
We live in Ohio and ran over to Brinkley last week. You’re gonna enjoy it. It’s been a mild winter here, so no problem for you guys fm sunny Florida. You might pass close to Walnut Ridge RV on your way. So far they have been good to work with. We get our 3100 in March from them. Safe travels
Getting my RV ready for the season, exciting. Arizona is your next spot.
ahh so exciting!! Happy soon-to-be camping!!
Fun video. Nice editing! “Help help” made us laugh!
haha! Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed your storytelling technique on this video - switching between the modification of your jacks and the things to watch for when buying an RV - good creative approach to moving the story along I’ve not noticed others use before.
I know it’s been beat to death, but check those lug nuts after a few miles - I got to watch a tire roll down the hill in my rear view mirror in my truck the one time I didn’t do that … and found 4 other lug nuts missing on the remaining 3 wheels - completely my fault as I’d just redone the brakes!
Keep the great videos coming!
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you liked the style, we wanted to give the info, but in a hopefully more entertaining way than having you just watch us talk because Craig can't sit still that long anyways LOL
Quote of the video "I don't know I wasn't listening" Love Craig.... you two are so funny.
LOL you know this is the story of my life... always saying stuff twice. 🤣
Hi guys... You are headed to Indiana.... Very good video... you are correct no RV has no problems... New or used.... And you are always fixing something... We watch a youtuber name Liz amazing... She has done a whole segment on bad manufacturers and bad dealerships and all kinds of problems on rvs... You guys be safe... Looking forward to your next week...J&A2ofus
We've seen some of those videos... so many crazy stories! Thanks for joining us this week!
Pennsylvania! Funny, he says Help! Help..😂😅.... Gotta have fun.
How about Henderson Nevada, there is an RV show with Brinkley's this weekend. We are going to see first hand what our RV on order will look like..
Always a great video🎉
Thank you so much!
We were excited for a minute when we thought you pulled in next to us. Can't post picture of a white GMC with Brinkley lol.
hahah! We're getting where we see more and more Brinkleys out there on the road!
You're coming to Minnesota !
We first bought a travel trailer to make sure we liked RV’ing and liked each other in small spaces…😬 We did well and traded up to a class A gas motorhome. We learned a lot from our first purchase but didn’t negotiate hard enough. Great video!
We just traveled from Denver to PHX to buy a used Alliance Valor TH at Blue Compass in Avondale. The process was great and they were very helpful to make sure we were all set for the 2 day drive back to Denver. It’s our first 5er so the whole hitch process was new to me and they helped me to make some adjustments, etc. I’m happy with them so far - and I just talked to their finance and service depts again today (10 days post purchase). I’m usually with you and opt out of warranties. But we bought it this time. It seemed like the right thing to do. 🤷♂️
I think you are going to Canada for the spring. And if you are going to NewFoundLand I want to go with you .I'll drive my own rig. Anyways have fun and be safe .❤
Newfoundland is on our list for one day!! Not happening this year but it looks so beautiful up there!
First off y'all crazy going to Elkhart in the winter. I would add a number 10 to your list and that would be, if you have a dealer do any upgrades, make sure you check their work. We had our dealer install lithium batteries and they messed that up. We wound up having to replace the converter to get it to charge charge the lithium batteries correctly. They also jammed the batteries into the battery box that they don't fit into so we're gonna have to fix that. We also had them install a washer dryer and they cross threaded the supply line which caused a water leak in the rig. Yeah, on second thought just do your upgrades on your own, or buy the parts and have a mobile tech do it.
As always, great video kids!!! Safe travels up north.
Way to keep bringing ‘em!
-C4YT
Don’t want to disappoint! 😆
Trail side RV in Grain Valley Missouri. Great people to work with.
good to know! thanks for sharing!
Truck tire rotation....fronts go straight back, while backs come forward to the opposite side. 5000 miles, but admittedly Im lucky to get it by 7 or 8k😅
Though some tires are unidirectional
Yeah, when we bought our little toy hauler camper that is just a garage, kitchen and a bedroom with a bathroom... We didn't negotiate price at all 💀
We didn't know.
Now I would like a little camper with a living room also and i have to convince my husband we should do it. We used our toy hauler camper 3 times (and never with our 4 wheelers) in 2 years! 😭💔 I want to get a better camper so we can go camping this summer but I may have to wait for next year for a different one. Good to know we can take 30% off and start from there! Thanks you two! ❤
as said in other remarks, a 12 ton hyd. jack and a piece of 6X6 block for a good base. Be safe
Here is a trick for ya, if you don't have one of the cool magnetic parts bowls, an upside down frisbee holds bolts/nuts and lug nuts great.
I bought the tall Ox blocks when I got our trailer. I had to buy different ones once we got a fifth wheel. Now I have 10 unusable Ox blocks in my garage because now I have snap pads lol
Indiana….where I grew up, went to Purdue, and lived for 55 years. I now live in England.
For the best dealer experience, I'm gonna recommend Ted's RV Land in Paynesville, MN. We drove 15 hours from Colorado Springs last year to purchase our Jayco 5th wheel. Great price and awesome customer! service!
If it minnesota it hasn’t been a bad winter this year at all, almost felt like spring all year, 50s this friday
Berryland campers Holden Louisiana, great people 😎👌🏼
good to know!
You need a Jack stand on both axles when rotating tires. The Jack can fall easily
Noticed that you guys are using the OX Blox Maxx on your rear jacks! Wanted to know what made you decide these over the Anderson Jack Block or Snap Pads? Thanks for the information and love your content!!
Enjoyed the video, as usual. I was just interested as to why you chose to rotate, without rebalancing, instead of taking it to DT. I also figured you just wanted an “excuse” to use your new impact driver. I got one for Christmas for our RV so I know the feeling.
thanks for watching! And honestly, it's mainly because we've been talking about taking it in to DT for months and just haven't found the time or opportunity to do it 😆 So, we just decided to do it ourself for the sake of getting it done. Lol. There's always a Discount Tire somewhere around... but it's still usually like 40 minutes or so from wherever we happen to be staying it seems
Just a tip on lifting those heavy truck tires to get on the bolts easily in the right position. Use one of your rubber wheel trucks for the RV enroll the tire up it with one hand while you insert the lug nut with the other hand. Makes it much easier. Keep On Truckin
Just so you know, it's a good idea to check your lug nuts after 50-100 miles whether you or someone else does the work.🙂 Yep, a "professional" inspection is very critical..
We definitely should have! 😁
also a good idea is to torque the lug nuts to the vehicle spec. More importaint on aluminum wheels then steel.
@@waltfriedrich7631 good advice!
I have a friend who bought an Earthroamer. In FIVE YEARS, he has never had any problems (including minor issues)
Lol you’ve got Craig yelling “see!!!” over here 🤣😂
Well, they are three quarters of a million dollars, so...yeah.
Montana for sure
My Guess is you are headed to Arizona. Its quite nice there. Also, I did not see you Torque your wheel nuts, Please be sure you have this done or get yourself a Torque wrench. Also 15000 miles is more than adequate to rotate your tires. 5000 miles is a little excessive for creating work. Good Luck and Safe Travels.
we should be doing it often enough then! 😄
You guys are awesome. Straight up team players.
My best advice would be...ask the dealership if you can spend the night in the RV before you take delivery of it, so you can find all the problems. And don't take it home until all the issues are addressed.
Arizona, for the win!! And as for vehicle/RV warranties, don't buy them at the time of purchase by financing the amount in with the total cost of the vehicle. Instead, shop around, save up, and just buy them prior to your factory warranty expiring.
We DO really love Arizona ❤️🌵
The potential issue you will have with the landing gearing moving it up is the out of stroke error when leveling it. You may need to put more blocking under the landing gear to prevent that
Another great video guys between 50 and 100 miles. You should re-torque your lug nuts on your wheels after rotating your wheels also when I rotate my tires, I move the back tires straight forward and Chris cross the front tires to the back. That way it takes out one tire longer to get back and it’s original spot better wear keep up the hard work guys
Thank you! For ours, the tread has to face a certain direction, so we can only swap the front to back. Good advice about re-torquing!
@@wildrvlifeReally? That's odd. I used to be a mechanic before I got into IT, and I definitely saw a lot of directional tires in performance tires, but not so much in truck tires. If I could ask, what are the make/model of your tires?
Yes, re-torque. Our provincial police here in Ontario, Canada are constantly reminding the public to re-torque our tires especially when we are changing from all seasons to winter tires and vice versa. Every year they see more and more accidents caused by flying tires. The contact points between the wheels and the hub assembly also need to be cleaned. We can go into any garage or dealership and they will retorque your tires for free.
We just picked up our new 5th wheel last week and pretty much checked all the boxes for the 9 thing not to do 😅
Recommend Camp Oaks RV and Outdoor in Dahlonega Georgia. Small independent dealer. Owned and operated by husband and wife. No add on fees, best service department, honest.
Love your videos!
We own an Alliance 310RL and love it. We could have purchased 20 minutes from our home, but that dealer's reputation was not good. We visited the there and, yep, we confirmed they earned that reputation. We ended up buying our rig at a dealer 90 minutes further away and are so happy we did. The dealer, Indian Valley Camping Center in PA is independent and fantastic.
Craig -- you really should use a torque wrench on those landing gear. 🙂
Tire rotation -- doesn't Discount Tires include that service for the life of the tires?
Definitely agree that independent and smaller dealerships often provide a much better experience! and Discount Tire does do it, and we kept "meaning" to make an appointment to have it done, but it always is just an extra errand we didn't have time for, so we finally took matters into our own hands lol
We just ordered thru Town and Country in Clyde Ohio, while still in Arizona. Delivery next week.
Great Jayco dealer. And we’ll probably never step foot on their lot. Talk to Matt.
nice!! always love hearing about a good experience! and I hope you love the new RV when you get it!
tell discount tire they lost it or did not tight it enough and they might replace it for free or give them to you at cost but yea they make you buy a set . no rv is problem free they all have issues
Great video with perfect topics.
My original dealer is in Michigan. I can't take my RV back that far for maintenance. So I went to my local dealer that sells the same brand and the shop customer service guy was very rude and quick to say, if you didn't buy it here we will not work on it. He was finall told by his boss that they had to work on my warranty issues per the manufacturer. That just pissed the guy off more. When I got my rv back someone at the dealer tried to sabotage me. I guess they thought I would not do a walk around or walk through on the rv before towing it. They left the bathroom and bedroom ceiling vents open, they opened every cabinet door and drawer just enough so they were not latch, and jammed one of my slide windows full up and open. The window took me about 15 minutes of lubrication and slight pressure to get it unstuck and down. The cabinet drawers and doors would have come open on the drive and dumped everything out or hit something causing damage. As for the vents, it was supposed to rain for the next three days. My new Brooklyn bed mattress and bathroom floor would have been soaked. Oh, also, my two chock blocks were missing. Needless to say, I will NEVER go back to this rv dealer.
I started reading your story and was like "oh my goodness this is the second time we've heard a story like this in 2 days!!!"
And then I read your username! 🤣 I still can't believe they treated you like that. So glad you did that walk around... you really do have to be an advocate for yourself. And we had so much fun hanging out at lunch yesterday!
Quartzsite Arizona!
Our new Jayco RedHawk had a list
No caulk around the shower pan, hot /cold water attached backwards in the shower, window above bed not sealed properly =replaced panel on wall due to 💦 , the generator took 4 trips to the dealership before the final fix
Get yourself a hydraulic bottle jack. Put some boards underneath the jack to take up some space....less pumps on the jack.
Also some bigger wood pads under you trailer leveling jacks. It will keep you camper more stable on sand or soft soil.
Very considerate of you to rotate your tires away from your neighbors. ❤
E-trailer is a great source, with good pricing.
They really are!
Great video guys with some gooood 411!!!
IMO, those leveling jacks across the board from ALL manufacturers are set toooo low. I’ve literally witnessed 3 different broken legs occur in the last 2 years. Theres plenteeee of sketchy CG’s and boondocking spots that’ll destroy them.
When we had our rig built, I had the manufacturer put them up at the highest setting for maximum ground clearance, since we boondock a lot.
👍😃🍻
You guys are heading to Arizona.
Gotta ask why are you doing your own tire rotation ? You have free at Discount Tire + balance. Love your show.
Just ends up being quicker and easier sometimes
OMG, dealer prep fees!! No idea when we bought our new little Ascape and don’t recall that from our others. The place we eventually got it didn’t do that to us though.
Discount tire is great but you should always always check the work had a flat one day and then the next day I noticed my center hub was visited after they fixed it they want me to drive 60 miles back so they could look at it. We settled on a picture, and then they sent it to me the next week all was good. I still love discount tire.
Quartzite Arizona!!
On your missing lug nut if the lug is not stripped it is likely that someone took your lugnut off in a parking lot. I videoed someone doing that on a ford in a homedepot parking lot and sent the video to the truck owner after they came out and they would not have noticed it missing then. Should just have discount rotate the tires they do it for free and it is much safer than that baby jack you used. I know they come with the truck, still safer to do it on a lift.
The best motorhomes to buy are from rich, elderly folk who are either done with RV'ing or buying something newer. You can be sure that they kept up with the service/maintenance and all of the warranty work and TSB's. Anytime they had an issue, they brought it in for trained professionals to work on it. I've had good experiences with buying from grandma and granpa.
We just picked up a 2018 Arctic Fox 29-5T from Albany RV in Albany, OR. This is our first RV and they were great! No surprises with financing, in fact they got us lower than market rates. Our credit union wanted to charge us over 9% interest with a top tier credit score. Albany RV found another credit union that would give us 7.99% with no money down. If had wanted, we could have extended the term out 15 years with that same interest rate and no money down.
Delivery day went smoothly and they even gave us a surprise discount because they didn't have to fix very many things on the RV. Very nice of them. The RV tech was great and so was the sales lady. Highly recommend them.
That's so awesome!! love hearing stories like these about buying experiences, because you often hear about it going the exact opposite. Love the surprise discount too! 🙌
Have had an AF good rig. They did admit they have problems with flooring to get it right. I noticed the woodwork could have been better. Service is great. They will meet you at the top of the Hood. Tires could be upgraded to more heavy duty. Interior design of space and storage is excellent.
Really disappointed that there were no jokes about just spinning the tire around and putting it in the same spot to rotate it. 😂 -J
You mentioned the suspension on your Brinkley. I'm thinking about upgrading mine. The creme d' la creme would be a mor-ryde independent suspension system but it is very expensive. Have you ever thought about adding sumo springs to help the trailer ride more smoothly. I've heard a lot of good things about them but was wondering what your take would be. Safe travels.
I hope you torque those Wheels
I'm going to cheat and say 2 locations. Based on your hints, I'm going to say either Montana or Alberta CA. Great skiing (snowboarding) in Banff.
Craig, perhaps you purchase a set of 4 locking lug nuts instead of one replacement for missing one.
not a bad idea!
Don't do it Craig. Locking lugs suck for many reasons
You guys are heading to Arizona
Headed to Arizona!
love Arizona!
Would you guys but another Brinkley, we own a DRV Mobil Suite and it’s a lemon for sure and it’s been worked on by Whiskey Mountain RV IN Mesa AZ another mistake. Don’t but from Pierce RV in Billings MT there tech’s call a wash job an inspection.