I know you know this but i'm going to say it anyway: Your flying is fine. Your opinion is valid. I'm sorry there are so many gatekeeping a-holes in this community.
Thank you my friend. And yeah I don’t mind people saying what they think I’m happy with what I do and happy with what I have achieved so far! Thanks for watching.
He'll use that tip you gave him to print off some more goggle skins he's ripped off from another company. Ohh you didn't know?...Well, you do now! This guy isn't what he's all cracked up to be. Dive deep and you'll see the truth. You're welcome a-hole! 😉
I got my Jitterbug O3 build down to 90 grams. I know the Odonata can get down to around 60 grams. Both 2". The protection on this quad is probably the selling factor, but just seems too heavy.
I have no idea how this guy did a 60g Odonata build but the scale showed actually 57grams. This one looks cool though. You don't have to strip the O3 down naked. @@NordFPV
An Odonata along with any frame is for whatever battery and motors you wanna put on it. I have never flown an Odonata on 1s. If I could post a picture of the weight of my friends quad I would. I am flying my 2" O3 Jitterbug frame with 3s and 1202 motors. @@rsfpv1985
it's interesting but looks very heavy. A slight blip of throttle in your video and you got a low battery warning. Also in your video it seems to fly quite slow and looks to perform like a heavy drone. Maybe a naked o3 option would perform better.
I'm definitely modifying this to fit a walksnail version. I rather fly walksnail than DJI O3 these days. The G2 don't really work for me and I sold my G1.
heY@@NordFPV what exactly do you need to mod for walksnail to fit with avatar pro camera ? I was thinking about buying analog version and conert it to walksnail to fly during the night i thought it will be a simple swap ?
The analog and the O3 version are very different. I eyed a bit the analog version and it has less space than the HD to fit anything differently. I have not made the mod yet but in the HD version the most important part is the camera mount.
I saw a review of a different drone by this company. A starship x1. It flew like a little beast 🤯 with 03 unit. I definitely had to have it. It has prop guards and should be good for me as a beginner also 😁 i ordered it a few hrs ago. I am in Buffalo NY. I definitely suggest getting some of those in a shop if you have one. I think they will sell. I got the 03 unit and elrs. Came to $470 with the GPS unit i also ordered. I am new to fpv but coming from dji mini 3 pro. Flew that for a year. I built 2 other fpv so far but haven't gotten too far. About ready to try goggles. Got integras 😁 i am able too hook them to mini 3 pro and should get some practice with that first. Love the protection on that drone. None of that in fpv. I thought about getting a sensor and hooking to I2C 😉 great video man 😁 i hope it goes well
Really cool little drone, but I personally would not be willing to pay for the fully built, or the one built without the 03. I would pay the price they list for the pro frame though if I wanted a 2", and use my own components. That's just me though, and others might feel differently. I'd love to see the same frame made for 3.5 inch. No props in view and a top mounted battery is great as well.
@@NordFPV From the price on their website, they wanted US$244 for the drone without rx or 03 and $32.80 for the pro frame only. Aside from the fact that I already have components I could put in, similar motors can be purchased where I live for $45 a set and I would just go with a 405 aio, which can be had for $70, so nearly $80 less if you add the rx, including the cost of the frame. If I didn't already have the components, I would also look around for an analog pre-built with similar components which could be swapped, which should be able to be found for about the same or less. But like I said, that is just my opinion and there are many buyers that might prefer to just pull it out of the box, or pull it out of the box and add their own 03 air unit and fly, or just have to have an F7 aio.
Hey I have a question aubout the FC/ESC. You sad you couldn’t find a name of it or something. Is it possible to buy a new one if the one you have will break?
Hi. I couldn't find the name, but someone on the comments had it right. Yes, you can buy it as a spare, on their website, and you can find it in other places. Also, you don't always need to have exactly the same AIO if you ever have the problem.
I would put my Firefly 2s with a Thumb4k against that, to compare. As much as I love the O3 system, the 2inch domain is tough to crack, I am still well under 100g with my 2S setup.
Agreed. It will always be difficult for the O3 system in this area as long as DJI doesn’t produce a smaller VTX, which they will never do. That’s why I’m flying more walksnail these days. More flexibility.
@@NordFPV I had nothing but the O3 and Goggles2 for my quads, but I then realised I needed analogue. Walksnail and HDzero are amazing experience upgrades for the pilot, but not the audience so much, so an action cam is still needed, and that adds meaningful weight in the 1/2s classes. I got the cobra-x box goggles and I am very happy.
@@LuckyPratama71 you CAN always add GPS, you have space in the AIO to connect it, but the fact that you can doesn't mean you should. The drone is already heavy the way it is, a GPS will just add more weight, and a li-ion will be too heavy in my opinion. And besides, I don't think you should be thinking about doing long range with a 2" drones, it's too small...
A very nice little drone that looks like it flies very well. But I have to agree with @kurtzFPV. Too expensive and personally would not buy one at that price.
That's way too expensive. You can buy the motors for €35, a similar frame for €25, a 40A aio f411 for about €50, and the ELRS for like €12, so about €120 euros total, then add your O3 unit on top. So basically, this drone is like twice the price of the parts. It's just not worth the money
I’m also thinking is too much money. I guess the whole CNC stuff throws the price of the frame away, but still I don’t think the CNC parts are a good enough reason to invest so much in a 2”.
@@NordFPV its cnc’d aluminium I guess? Sounds nice and durable. But I think it’s a waste on a 150g drone. What kind of impacts are you gonna do with a tiny thing like that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
When somone says "the drone flies well" and I see them flying a drone like an absolute beginner, then any credability goes out of the window. He cant fly, so he has no idea if the drone can fly well. If your're interested in this drone then watch a video of somone who can actually fly.
I guess everything in this world is relative my friend, maybe I should have said "It flys well inside my abilities" lol. Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching!
In my opinion this whole 2" O3 setup is nonsence. It's very heavy with the O3 and 4S setup on such a small prop. 2.5" has 60% more disc area than 2". Why not just step up to 2.5" and get more efficiency, flight time and better feel. This whole ultra small O3 setup started with the pavo pico to be sub100g for drone laws in japan. No need to go 2" on the O3 if you don't worry about sub100g. 2.5" is proven over and over again.
@@brynearson you think... but I know it's 60% more. Just do the math.. there are programs. Just look up the area of a circle. Convert to metric units to be correct
I know you know this but i'm going to say it anyway: Your flying is fine. Your opinion is valid. I'm sorry there are so many gatekeeping a-holes in this community.
Thank you my friend. And yeah I don’t mind people saying what they think I’m happy with what I do and happy with what I have achieved so far! Thanks for watching.
He'll use that tip you gave him to print off some more goggle skins he's ripped off from another company. Ohh you didn't know?...Well, you do now! This guy isn't what he's all cracked up to be. Dive deep and you'll see the truth. You're welcome a-hole! 😉
Yes. I think there are so many people in this community that has too high standards and borderline to being an a--hole.
Walksnail replacement would be verry interesting!
I got my Jitterbug O3 build down to 90 grams. I know the Odonata can get down to around 60 grams. Both 2". The protection on this quad is probably the selling factor, but just seems too heavy.
wow, 90 and 60 gr. compared to 127gr is a big difference! Good job.
I have no idea how this guy did a 60g Odonata build but the scale showed actually 57grams. This one looks cool though. You don't have to strip the O3 down naked. @@NordFPV
but Odonata is originally for 1S ;) O3 need min 2S and weight almost 40g
An Odonata along with any frame is for whatever battery and motors you wanna put on it. I have never flown an Odonata on 1s. If I could post a picture of the weight of my friends quad I would. I am flying my 2" O3 Jitterbug frame with 3s and 1202 motors. @@rsfpv1985
We are talking dry weight with a stripped down ultralight O3(naked) Not a fully cased O3.@@rsfpv1985
That’s nice 🎉, might have to check this one out !!!
The AIO board looks like a HAKRC F722
I checked this board and yes, looks like it's the same. Good eye!
it's interesting but looks very heavy. A slight blip of throttle in your video and you got a low battery warning. Also in your video it seems to fly quite slow and looks to perform like a heavy drone. Maybe a naked o3 option would perform better.
Or a walksnail VTX ;).
I really didn’t feel like slow or heavy. Maybe just me, but it actually feels very snappy.
Several frames have released recently in that form factor. I would love to see a walksnail version. I was thinking about 2/3s version.
I'm definitely modifying this to fit a walksnail version. I rather fly walksnail than DJI O3 these days. The G2 don't really work for me and I sold my G1.
heY@@NordFPV what exactly do you need to mod for walksnail to fit with avatar pro camera ? I was thinking about buying analog version and conert it to walksnail to fly during the night i thought it will be a simple swap ?
The analog and the O3 version are very different. I eyed a bit the analog version and it has less space than the HD to fit anything differently. I have not made the mod yet but in the HD version the most important part is the camera mount.
Thank you for reviewing this little drone! Love the form factor.
Yeah, it's really nice. Thanks for watching.
I saw a review of a different drone by this company. A starship x1. It flew like a little beast 🤯 with 03 unit. I definitely had to have it. It has prop guards and should be good for me as a beginner also 😁 i ordered it a few hrs ago. I am in Buffalo NY. I definitely suggest getting some of those in a shop if you have one. I think they will sell. I got the 03 unit and elrs. Came to $470 with the GPS unit i also ordered. I am new to fpv but coming from dji mini 3 pro. Flew that for a year. I built 2 other fpv so far but haven't gotten too far. About ready to try goggles. Got integras 😁 i am able too hook them to mini 3 pro and should get some practice with that first. Love the protection on that drone. None of that in fpv. I thought about getting a sensor and hooking to I2C 😉 great video man 😁 i hope it goes well
Hi man! great video, I am building this one, would you please share the CLI DUMP?
Hi, sorry, I don't have the drone anymore.
Very nice little drone. Amazing review mate.
Thank you. And thanks for always watching!
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I think you should get some and put them in your shop
Cool! Thanks for the feedback
Really cool little drone, but I personally would not be willing to pay for the fully built, or the one built without the 03. I would pay the price they list for the pro frame though if I wanted a 2", and use my own components. That's just me though, and others might feel differently. I'd love to see the same frame made for 3.5 inch. No props in view and a top mounted battery is great as well.
I haven’t done the calculations, but if you chose good parts won’t you end up in a similar price?
@@NordFPV From the price on their website, they wanted US$244 for the drone without rx or 03 and $32.80 for the pro frame only. Aside from the fact that I already have components I could put in, similar motors can be purchased where I live for $45 a set and I would just go with a 405 aio, which can be had for $70, so nearly $80 less if you add the rx, including the cost of the frame. If I didn't already have the components, I would also look around for an analog pre-built with similar components which could be swapped, which should be able to be found for about the same or less. But like I said, that is just my opinion and there are many buyers that might prefer to just pull it out of the box, or pull it out of the box and add their own 03 air unit and fly, or just have to have an F7 aio.
Thanks @@kurtzFPV , great insight. Yes, there are people that just want to open a box and go flying, but many like to DIY their drones.
😮 liking what i see. Ty
Great!
Can you connect a WS kit in this drone? Is enough space for it?
It’s a project I have, but I haven’t done it yet. The VTX will fit without a problem. The camera may need some work.
Hey I have a question aubout the FC/ESC. You sad you couldn’t find a name of it or something. Is it possible to buy a new one if the one you have will break?
Hi. I couldn't find the name, but someone on the comments had it right. Yes, you can buy it as a spare, on their website, and you can find it in other places. Also, you don't always need to have exactly the same AIO if you ever have the problem.
I would put my Firefly 2s with a Thumb4k against that, to compare.
As much as I love the O3 system, the 2inch domain is tough to crack, I am still well under 100g with my 2S setup.
Agreed. It will always be difficult for the O3 system in this area as long as DJI doesn’t produce a smaller VTX, which they will never do. That’s why I’m flying more walksnail these days. More flexibility.
@@NordFPV I had nothing but the O3 and Goggles2 for my quads, but I then realised I needed analogue.
Walksnail and HDzero are amazing experience upgrades for the pilot, but not the audience so much, so an action cam is still needed, and that adds meaningful weight in the 1/2s classes.
I got the cobra-x box goggles and I am very happy.
Can it be used for long range?
I wouldn’t. You don’t have a GPS, and the battery will last just a few minutes…
@@NordFPV can we add gps and use li ion battery?
@@LuckyPratama71 you CAN always add GPS, you have space in the AIO to connect it, but the fact that you can doesn't mean you should. The drone is already heavy the way it is, a GPS will just add more weight, and a li-ion will be too heavy in my opinion. And besides, I don't think you should be thinking about doing long range with a 2" drones, it's too small...
A very nice little drone that looks like it flies very well.
But I have to agree with @kurtzFPV. Too expensive and personally would not buy one at that price.
Thanks for the feedback.
We’re can I get one?
Right now I believe it’s only available at their website www.xmzfpv.com
What is the range?
The range is normally given by the O3 or VTX in most drones these days, specially in the case of this drone which uses ELRS.
Hello there !!!!
That's way too expensive. You can buy the motors for €35, a similar frame for €25, a 40A aio f411 for about €50, and the ELRS for like €12, so about €120 euros total, then add your O3 unit on top. So basically, this drone is like twice the price of the parts. It's just not worth the money
I’m also thinking is too much money. I guess the whole CNC stuff throws the price of the frame away, but still I don’t think the CNC parts are a good enough reason to invest so much in a 2”.
@@NordFPV its cnc’d aluminium I guess? Sounds nice and durable. But I think it’s a waste on a 150g drone. What kind of impacts are you gonna do with a tiny thing like that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
just the looks, maybe ;) @@chrisalexthomas
Yes sell it but cheaper
Good plan 😂
nice but definitely overpriced
Fair enough!
When somone says "the drone flies well" and I see them flying a drone like an absolute beginner, then any credability goes out of the window. He cant fly, so he has no idea if the drone can fly well. If your're interested in this drone then watch a video of somone who can actually fly.
I guess everything in this world is relative my friend, maybe I should have said "It flys well inside my abilities" lol.
Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching!
True, someone giving their opinion should be more versed in the subject.
What a lovely community
Just facts idek if i wanna watch this video 1:18
@@grantc8353☠️
In my opinion this whole 2" O3 setup is nonsence.
It's very heavy with the O3 and 4S setup on such a small prop.
2.5" has 60% more disc area than 2".
Why not just step up to 2.5" and get more efficiency, flight time and better feel.
This whole ultra small O3 setup started with the pavo pico to be sub100g for drone laws in japan.
No need to go 2" on the O3 if you don't worry about sub100g.
2.5" is proven over and over again.
That's a good point Chris.
Hey, I don't mean to be rude or anything at all but I think it's 25% more disk or surface area not 60%.
@@brynearson you think... but I know it's 60% more.
Just do the math.. there are programs. Just look up the area of a circle. Convert to metric units to be correct
ye, around 60% fr.