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@jeffostroff 23:50 so that CONFIRMS what i said initially back in your other much older videos, and I made a very heavy argument about this: Not everyone has cloud accounts for older DVR's because they do not SUPPORT Cloud Storage, newer NVR's however.....support localized and cloud based storage. If they recovered 26 Hard Drives, that confirms its a older DVR that only locally stored the video, however, I am curious the source of the hallway video? Where was that recovered from?
@@elantrauma that specific footage of the hallway, where did they recover this from? If all the hard drives were disabled/damaged beyond recovery, and that footage came much later on after the incident.
I used to work in a six deck parking garage as security many years ago, and I remember they used chains to rattle along the floor checking for hollow spots in the concrete (mid 1990s in southern Canada). Low tech, but surprisingly accurate. X-raying was used to confirm metal damage (which was caused by road salt de-icer runoff, which is highly corrosive; I'd argue stronger than seawater). Extreme thermal cycling (-35C to plus 30C or higher) on a yearly basis, plus salt water runoff from vehicles in winter makes for near time-lapse concrete and rebar damage. I was shocked at how many spots had to be chiseled out, rebar removed, replacement bar welded in place, then refilled with concrete. Very tedious. Then again, the same parking garage is over a national rail line, so if it went down it wouldn't have just been a local disaster, it would have cut part of a major transcontinental transportation line in the process. It struck home how important structural integrity is! Lots of mistakes were made at Champlain Towers South over the years, starting with its construction it seems. Your intel has been solid from day one. As always, excellent work, Jeff!!!
Yes, like the Elliot Lake mall collapse that killed two women in 2012. Mall tenants were using Rubbermaid containers to catch the water leaking through the ceiling there for years before part of the mall collapsed.
The bottom line is that the construction was subpar and the owners were too cheap to make needed repairs. The building cried out days in advance asking for help but they chose to ignore it and paid with their lives.
Today is the 1st time hearing about this disaster. A friend of mine worked on that building as a construction manager or something like that. When he kept complaining about the subpar material being used and how they were cutting corners. He stressed to them that he felt the building would collapse with the 1st hurricane. He was fired for his constant complaining. He then sent written letters to building inspector, attorney general, and to Washington DC. I don’t remember every department he sent the letters to but I do remember mailing 10 separate letters explaining how it was being built and his concerns of devastation. Not 1 person called him or investigated his complaints. His thoughts were pay offs to anyone that would have investigated. This is a shame. I do not know how many people died but I’m sure there were many. Engineers ignore problems bc of money and they are never ever held accountable.
Also as a software engineer who's done some work with image processing, I want to say that the image processing work that produced so much evidence in this case is fantastically well done.
Jeff I'm not an engineer but I love your explanations. So clear and precise for a layman to understand. Plus you have a great speaking voice. You have a career in radio awaiting you too.
I’ve seen Condos in 10x times worse condition in South America, Italy, and they get hit by earthquakes and don’t fall like that! Modern architecture is just not designed to fall out like that unless it’s demolished! Like we saw the Solomon Brothers building collapse during 9/11. I call foul play for sure.
@@maxamillion6958While controlled demolition could explain any collapse do we want to conclude controlled demolition immediately and not investigate other possibilities like design flaws, construction flaws, problems caused by post construction modifications? Try to look at it from the angle of we are looking for a way to cover up foul play to there may be more going on here than that. It’s easy to say controlled demolition then stop investigating. I would even say it’s a cop out to protect the people who designed, constructed and modified the building. “Let’s assume they all did their jobs properly and blame controlled demolition,” seems to be what you are advocating. Investigations shouldn’t start out with a predetermined conclusion then only consider only the evidence that seems to prove that conclusion. Investigations should start will an infinite number of possible conclusions then use the evidence to narrow down those possibilities until the conclusion is determined. Controlled demolition should be one of those possibilities.
@@maxamillion6958don't buy a new house built in the past 2 years in USA. They are made so cheap now, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a water leak months down the road. God forbid you look at vinyl siding 1 year down. Cheap cheap labor and they can't even overlap siding properly
@@maxamillion6958 This event is far from the reason insurance prices are skyrocketing across Florida - single family home insurance is skyrocketing too. In fact, my home insurer just dropped me despite never having made a claim for close to a decade. This is happening everywhere to almost everyone. It’s a combination of causes, one being related to politics/state legislators, one being increased weather instability, and another is the neglect/lack of checks and balances involving the insurance industry.
Yep- often when you think something is a bit overkill, you check it out and find it is both logical and has been put in as a result of previous disasters.
Thanks for following up on this again Jeff. I still get an eerie feeling because I used to drive by this building every day on the way to work when I lived in MB. The railing on the balconies always made these buildings stand out. RIP to those that were lost in this tragedy.
What a Great video! We had a building that was immediately evacuated here in Myrtle Beach after that collapse, the people who lived there have never been allowed back in…
@@natural_nc7230 - of course it collapsed!! LoL!! But people need to get their heads out of their asses and start asking the right questions, not how it happened, but why? Because this tragedy is being used to price people out of their condo homes everywhere! And I Don’t want to hear the pathetic “greedy /neglectful condo owner response”. I’ve seen buildings in South America in 10x worse condition! And they don’t fall like that. LoL!!
I was hoping you were going to post a video about the NIST update. Thanks for keeping up with this the entire time. It's amazing how people can let things get as far as they did with that place and scary to know it's happening elsewhere too.
I have followed all your videos on the Champlain Towers collapse. This one is truly an excellent presentation. It is amazing how much information you gave us in a half hour video. It was also great to see that many of your original concepts matched the results of the complex analyses of the data. Good work as always.
Just like measuring millimeters on a map. You can estimate miles or kilometers distance between two real-world points. In the video one pixel might equal one meter & scale of the building can be determined.
Jeff, I've been with you throughout this entire series regarding the collapse from the very beginning video. Thank you so much for making these updates and continuing to keep us informed all along the process! Your expertise has made this such an interesting journey with such clear and easy to understand narration. I know I speak for many others when I say a HUGE Thank YOU for your efforts on this project!! You've done an incredible job!
@@maxamillion6958 It provides a possible explanation for some of the observed phenomena- in fact, more than one. I'm not sure why you're nit-picking about it.
This is honestly pretty terrifying stuff when you think about it. We’re supposed to trust that buildings aren’t just going to collapse on their own like this.
It's UNBELIEVABLY RARE, tho. Once they're up, they like to STAY up. In fact. I can show you a building and a garage that are substantially collapsed. And they're STILL standing! In the Midwest. Buildings move all the time. You'll see cracks on baseboards, walls where the seam is and so on. It's very common, but I think unless it's a BIG crack, or it's a diagonal in particular, you're ok unless it's very unlevel. And even THEN! I've known buildings w SUBSTANTIAL sink in a corner. Been like that 40+ years and STILL there. I think it's possibly an issue if say, you have a BIG crack from the corner or a window or a door diagonally, or a step pattern in your brickwork masonry. But again, I've seen some stuff and never heard of a building falling on its own. Minus this one. I knew an old school they TRIED to take it down w a wrecking ball through the roof downwards and that shite was NOT moving. Lol. I lived half a block away and I felt it! They tried moving that building down for WEEKS. The junk they replaced it with is cheap, overpriced garbage and I wouldn't house my dogs in it, ESPECIALLY not for some insane 4 million! LOL! My building had slightly worn stairs. Over 115 years old. New pos down the block used garbage to make the concrete and you can see cracking and crumbling within FIVE years! Lol. Some minor concrete I put it in is still in perfect condition over 14 years later, too. A fool and their money...
If a building is built 10 times stronger then yes it will still stand, even after much weakening. BUT not all old buildings are great. Brick buildings in an earthquake will shake apart & fall. Goodbye residents (crushed)
@@electrictroy2010 Brick buildings do definitely survive an earthquake. Not crappy mid-century or modern brick building tho. they've a case of to much capitalistic greed to to be built to withstand such things
Nonsensical because you can’t comprehend/understand it? That would make sense, if you hear someone speaking a language you don’t know, that would sound nonsensical too. For the rest of us who do understand such things and aren’t willing to throw in the towel and just believe in random conspiracies, it made sense.
@@TitaniumTurbine You know nothing about me, yet here you are making assumptions because you disagree. I can comprehend just fine. I can make a point by point analysis of the failings in the NIST reports regarding that day. Just because in one brief comment I did not, says nothing about my intellect. Your comment however, says much about yours. What I don’t comprehend is why people like you can’t make an argument without being disrespectful. I’m sorry you had to come down off your high horse to write your “scathing” retort.
It's really a shame they never recovered that Notifier Fire alarm control panel out of the lobby. According to the company that installed it, it was still reporting up until the day of the demolition (as it has batteries and a POTS phone connection). That control panel would have contained essential logs that could indicate structural failure. For example, if a sprinkler flow alarm, or SLC circuit fault trouble came in, this would have been logged with a precise time stamp and rough idea of the location if the fault/alarm. A broken sprinkler line will trigger a fire alarm condition on the panel; a severed wire or short circuit would report as a trouble condition...all of which would be logged and reported to the central station. Yes, this is a fire alarm system, not a building collapse detection system, but I still believe it would have played a crucial role in this investigation.
the frustrating thing is the creation of LLCs. Builders create an LLC then scatter like rats when its completed. No one will be found liable except for a few broke individuals; not any corporation.
Everyone who built this died of old age. The deal maker is dead, the architect is dead, the engineer is dead, the people running the construction firms are dead. And I think all the firms that were involved were dissolved. The only significant entity left is the town and building commission that approved it.
@@k53847 I think you missed the point. The point is that ever since the 14th amendment was passed, it has been used for corporations, not for the slavery. LLCs and LLPs dissolve after its purpose and not held liable like a person. SCOTUS has said corporations are “a person” but they dissolve them so they cannot be held liable. It’s pretty common to this day. Nothing has changed.
I'm studying emergency management (as an "elder" aged 38 haha) and just wanted to say how much I appreciate your videos!! I hope it saves many lives in the future. Too many people have already forgotten about this and other events that were preventable, so you, your expertise and compassion are very much needed!
Thank u so much for compiling all this. I was following the collapse scenarios, videos and accounts since it happened but hadn’t looked for anything recently. This popped up on YT for me today thankfully as a reminder. I was wondering where the NIST investigation was at this point in time, so again, thank you.
jeff, you have done amazing work on this surfside condo collapse. for a complicated topic you have done a skillful job of organizing and presenting it, i appreciate it.
I am I name is just a normal name. I can tell you there was something horrible and something bad going on there at the condominium because me and a couple friends I do believe it’s Justin and Sadie, who jumped from the balcony and Justin didn’t make it and got teleported by a plant because he had a gift gift of the devil and a demon was let out from the basement. They have it on camera on the body of a cup Tim if you go back and look over the cop, body cam do you say that is a demon and where are the flames come from the Earth that from the bottom we look at videos #hinkley #missingboy #teleportplants
Wow, thank you, Jeff! I absolutely love the way you take complex information and break it down for us, as well as using images and blueprints to show where things are happening. Awesome job as usual!
I believe the water intrusion on that deck for 40 years in combination with that connecting point is what seems to be the cause. Despite the design I still think the lack of maintenance is too blame. I think the sister buildings should make sure their deck has a waterproofing membrane and is angled for proper drainage. As well as not being overloaded. But really I would only sleep well if some parking spots were sacrificed to build a new support if such a thing is possible. Thanks for the comprehensive update!
I know the north building went into looking over their problems after the collapse of South, and was looking at the garage support right away where they jacked up things with braces fast, but I hope they go back over the garage with the new findings of missing foundation rebar. I think they owners in North are lucky the building is more square and not the stretched version CT South.
I think there was shoddy workmanship and multiple design errors too. When staying in multi-story apartment blocks in Dubai, I look very carefully at columns and ceilings in the basement parking garages, and so far, they've all looked pristine, with no cracking, staining, evidence of water ingress, despite having been built by low wage South Asian labour. Ironically, I believe a Dubai property developer, Damac, has bought the Champlain Towers site.
I didn't like ANYTHING about how those supports in the garage were! They were WAY too thin for so many cars moving around! At a Trader Joe's garage, I can't even put my arms around the supports. They're HUGE. Only a 4 story building, too. It has the bones of a factory, which I'll take ANY day. They're EXTREMELY overbuilt for residential and they often come w sprinklers all set. I can point to a flooring factory and the old Ludwig drum factory in Chicago. Very overbuilt for condos. But I'll GUARANTEE they'll outlive us.
Wow absolutely blown away by your attention to detail I covered this when it happened on my podcast episode American collapse and you sir had the best then and now analysis!
To condense all that info in 30 mins, fantastic work. With this being south Florida & the amount of just Ts & hurricanes this building has been through. Honestly it looks like some inspectors during construction got some nice vacations.
Excellent work Jeff! Thanks so much for the update. It's a credit to yourself that NIST have covered a lot of the same aspects that you covered in your previous videos.
Thanks very much for the update. I subscribed to your channel after your earliest video on the Miami Condo Collapse. Your analysis looks quite rigorous, and your presentation and digesting of the data from many sources, particularly this latest NIST update are first rate! Great job!
Excellent videos! Watched your FIU bridge collapse and this one, and has really peaked my interest into a field I didn’t know I’d enjoy. Still, Surfside was an interesting one, more so due to being a first responder, I spent months partaking in that operation and the sights, smells and sounds were so overwhelming, that actually having a “debriefing” session breaking down what led to the collapse helps puts things into a different perspective. Excellent work of dumbing it down for the regular folks like me!
Great summary presentation. Looks like the overloaded pool deck with planters, sands, pavers, plus the equipment traveling on the deck, pulled down the connecting tower. The cracking, leaking, seeping, overloaded pool deck was weakened by the corroded rebar, until deck collapse. Very scary.
Great video man, I’ve used several of your videos when doing building construction with my shift. Especially when we go over building collapse and how to deal with that type of situation. Luckily the town I work in doesn’t have a building like this. But we do have a 4 story apartment complex, it was built in the very early 1900s as a department store and it was converted to apartments.
What wrong w that? I'll put an old building over the shite they vomit up in a month ANY DAY. I've watched them remove a very old school building and even WITH a wrecking ball banging down on the roof, that mess was NOT moving! Half a block away I felt it at MY house! I've seen VERY unlevel stuff like, "Eh, I've been VISIBLY sinking 42 years, and still here..." Watched the total GARBAGE they replace it with go up in under a month for 4 million, and it's just hilarious. No real wood anywhere for all that money! It's a lot of MDF. Cheap concrete blocks that start to visibly crumble within 5 years. Meanwhile, my 120 y.o. house had MAYBE 10% wear on the steps over that whole time. And I KNOW we didn't pay 4 million for it! Lol. A fool and their money...
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 They turned the apartment complex into affordable housing……… The place is turning into a dump unfortunately. It was a beautiful building inside. Now you go the basement there is sh** spray painted all over the walls, trash everywhere.
Your analysis and expert explanation has been incredible. I don’t know how anyone could criticize you. Thank you so much for in-depth videos. So much appreciated.
Right before you said so yourself, I was thinking “man props to you, the federal investigation looks remarkably similar to the one you did a while back!” Good work my friend, you are an endangered species in this country, one who uses a clear concise and open mind to be OBJECTIVE and generate truthful conclusions about the world around you. Thank you for all of your time and energy man, all of us appreciate your videos a lot
Great analysis! 20:44 That rebar overlap, especially with the upper rebars terminating about 23 inches ABOVE the ground level slab instead of continuing well below it, looks like a HORRIBLE discontinuity, placed right at the very root of the support column.
Jeff, your videos are a complete "education" for us non-engineer laypersons. What a nightmare of mutually-reinforcing design, construction and "inspection" (not!) errors. YIKES.
You’ve done a great job analyzing this over the last few years. I don’t have any evidence that the NIST looked at your videos as part of their analysis, but they would have been remiss not to at least look to see what you found and consider it, so I’m pretty sure they did.
Incredible, that video where you overlayed the beams gets redone by NIST. You have a brilliant mind and have made me realize who we choose to consume content of matters immensely in this age of access to information.
Great summary. Must be a good feeling to see that they basically agreed with the analysis you have been doing. (the picture with the view down the ramp....)
Jeff have you ever heard if NIST has watched your videos? I have watched every video of yours on this and followed from day one. I am so impressed that your theories have been confirmed as being spot on especially with limited resources compared with them. Great job as usual.
That would be cool, they probably don't have the time to watch my speculation, they deal in hard facts and do all their own work, and they have the samples, I don't.
@@maxamillion6958Go chronologically through his videos and you will see but particularly the collapse of the column in the garage prior to the building collapse. He identified thus by having a shot of the parking ramp from the sister building and overlaying with the tourist video that was confirmed by NIST enhanced version of the tourist video
Hi man, i was following it 3 years ago, and now i was searching for updates and came back to your channel and update about this collaps, greetings from belgium (europe)
I find it interesting that engineers have similar interests that are so different. I am a network engineer but also interested in building collapses, submersible implosions, and costco deals. Lol
Well, submersible implosions are very very short list with everyone else than Mr. born silver spoon up the arse Rush Job following proper engineering and common sense. Only thing he pushed forward was how to avoid regulations... People who went to occasional commercial Titanic dives on Mirs got far better deal for far less.
FANTASTIC report!!!! TONS of GREAT info and data! LOVE IT! Thank you for ALL your time and data gathering, and the presentation! I was wondering what has been going on with this and the presentation was a HUGE update! Thank you!!!
It's impressive how technology and modern analytical tools can de- and re- construct an event of this nature. Thanks for putting this summary together.
Thank you Jeff for all your hard work on this over the years! I have been following along with you on this from the beginning and my thoughts from the beginning have been pretty much the same as yours 👍. I appreciate your scientific analysis on this for the past several years. There are only 2 people i have followed that have a breakdown of this whole situation that makes sense and you are one of those people👍
Thank you Jeff. As usual superb engineering analysis, I really appreciate all the time and effort that you spent reviewing the many many documents. It's appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, Jeff, so much, for your HOURS of work, investigating this condo collapse + your analysis AND your awesome explanations of what could have gone wrong. You did an OUTSTANDING job explaining everything!!! I learned a lot!! Thank you for sharing your expertise. I sincerely appreciate your hours + hours + hours of work, these last 3 years!!! ❤❤❤
Your videos on the condo collapse are super interesting to watch! The horror of this building going down has really not left me since it happened. May this be a lesson for proper building construction, maintenance, and additional unit weight increases from renovation after occupation.
Excellent report and presentation. Nist is an unimpeachable group. I’ve been in the business for 40 years and that report varied my observations when we all saw it on TV that day. The test lab work was very well done. Even if briefly shown,I was able to see the results . The computer modeling and photos showed so much. Very good report- A+
It's amazing your work you put in in this video... not just the information but also the translation you made for others to know more about it in an easy way... ist awesome, really... it's perfect in both Spanish and English
9:27 - Police officer was watching TH-cam while on duty 😂😂 Excellent video series! I’ve been following your entire body of work on this event since your very first upload 👍🏻
I would hope that Champlain towers N is completing their 40 year recertification by now because they started it in 2021 I believe. They do have the same floor plan but they have two fewer units per floor than the Champlain tower S did and their pool deck is smaller and doesn't have all of those planters and never had the palm trees like you saw at Champlain tower S. That said I haven't been able to glean any information out of it unless their engineer comes out publicly says what they've been doing but so far he has voiced that he is not concerned with the structure of the Champlain towers north and you know he is keeping up with every bit of news that comes out about the South tower
I grew up in Florida during the 70s and 80s. My father worked in construction. It was an open secret that every cost was cut to put up the condos along the beaches. People joked about them being "temporary" housing.
@kalabalik4166 were greed wasn't infested in every corporation... The problems had been reported in 2018 and noted as "much worse" in April 2021. A $15 million program of remedial works had been approved before the collapse, but the main structural work had not started. Other possible factors include land subsidence, insufficient reinforcing steel, and corruption during construction. Another big factor was the penthouse was a controversial part of Champlain Towers South's design, as an exemption was needed to exceed Surfside's height limit.[20] The penthouses were also not part of the original building permits. They only saw the $$$ signs, and they chose to ignore the potential (ticking time bomb) danger to the residents..
@michaelmcdermott8385 Yes, the building was built 40 years ago.. but effected by modern-day corruption.. By stack condos onto eachoter with no breathing room.. It was also reported that during construction, corruption had been cited by multiple local media sources as a potential contributing cause of the collapse.
Great videos always. I think I say this every time and I need to stop but this building was a time bomb from the day it was built. and the deferred maintenance that every owner of those condos did over the years, everybody's to blame.
Just came across this tonight on youtube. TH-cam as I've heard has more viewers now than the 3 major TV networks. Great video and covering a lot of detail.
Given what we've learned so far, how can a potential buyer of a single flat protect himself? Presumably, a real estate inspection would only cover the unit itself. Relying on the ever changing condo or coop board for keep up with building maintenance when *they* aren't required to have engineering experience seems like it leaves individual unit owners at the mercy of fate. What should be on the look out for when purchasing a high rise flat?
Not true, you can get any part of the building public areas inspected. Be smart and ask for upcoming work and maintenance info. I was in RE. Got out. Many, many slimy people. Yuck.
What’s RE? THE Chanplain condo board was not the problem. The residents simply refused to spend the money to do the maintenance. The meetings devolved into shouting matches: Board: “The concrete is falling apart!” Residents: “Noooo we don’t want to spend the money!” They had rather die.
Thank you so much for keeping us up to speed. For the people who lost homes, and especially for the people who lost loved ones, the collapse of the Champlain Towers needs to remain current in the public’s mind.
The garage supports were rusting and spalling. Wouldn't have been long. W thar obvious water intrusion. They were WAY too thin to support moving vehicles. Too. Obviously.
Thank you for continuing the cover this. Your videos have been my favorite by far on this subject (and others as well, like Oceangate), so I'm glad you're still updating us on the investigation.
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Was Larry Silverstein in Miami that day 🤔💰🥸
its so sad people were killed. Just Terrible. 😥
@jeffostroff 23:50 so that CONFIRMS what i said initially back in your other much older videos, and I made a very heavy argument about this:
Not everyone has cloud accounts for older DVR's because they do not SUPPORT Cloud Storage, newer NVR's however.....support localized and cloud based storage.
If they recovered 26 Hard Drives, that confirms its a older DVR that only locally stored the video, however, I am curious the source of the hallway video? Where was that recovered from?
@@CapStar362 "Where was that recovered from?" The hallway. After it's long journey.
@@elantrauma that specific footage of the hallway, where did they recover this from? If all the hard drives were disabled/damaged beyond recovery, and that footage came much later on after the incident.
I used to work in a six deck parking garage as security many years ago, and I remember they used chains to rattle along the floor checking for hollow spots in the concrete (mid 1990s in southern Canada). Low tech, but surprisingly accurate. X-raying was used to confirm metal damage (which was caused by road salt de-icer runoff, which is highly corrosive; I'd argue stronger than seawater). Extreme thermal cycling (-35C to plus 30C or higher) on a yearly basis, plus salt water runoff from vehicles in winter makes for near time-lapse concrete and rebar damage.
I was shocked at how many spots had to be chiseled out, rebar removed, replacement bar welded in place, then refilled with concrete. Very tedious. Then again, the same parking garage is over a national rail line, so if it went down it wouldn't have just been a local disaster, it would have cut part of a major transcontinental transportation line in the process. It struck home how important structural integrity is! Lots of mistakes were made at Champlain Towers South over the years, starting with its construction it seems. Your intel has been solid from day one. As always, excellent work, Jeff!!!
Yes, like the Elliot Lake mall collapse that killed two women in 2012. Mall tenants were using Rubbermaid containers to catch the water leaking through the ceiling there for years before part of the mall collapsed.
Yeah, I guess the clues don't get much bigger than that, do they? Sad management and the like left it too late. @@electronixTech
@@gafoot5368 Yup.
Go Train station????
No, in western Canada, the structure I'm referring to is over a CP Rail line.@@Shay416
Jeff is a modern renaissance man, from Costco to Civil Engineering. Thank you for condensing the day long NIST presentation into this video update!
He makes civil engineering easy to understand.
Don't forget Home Depot.
The bottom line is that the construction was subpar and the owners were too cheap to make needed repairs. The building cried out days in advance asking for help but they chose to ignore it and paid with their lives.
Today is the 1st time hearing about this disaster.
A friend of mine worked on that building as a construction manager or something like that. When he kept complaining about the subpar material being used and how they were cutting corners.
He stressed to them that he felt the building would collapse with the 1st hurricane. He was fired for his constant complaining.
He then sent written letters to building inspector, attorney general, and to Washington DC. I don’t remember every department he sent the letters to but I do remember mailing 10 separate letters explaining how it was being built and his concerns of devastation.
Not 1 person called him or investigated his complaints. His thoughts were pay offs to anyone that would have investigated.
This is a shame. I do not know how many people died but I’m sure there were many.
Engineers ignore problems bc of money and they are never ever held accountable.
Hard to believe it's been 3 years already. Thanks for sharing this analysis.
Wow, yes, it is.
yep, great vid
Also as a software engineer who's done some work with image processing, I want to say that the image processing work that produced so much evidence in this case is fantastically well done.
Jeff I'm not an engineer but I love your explanations. So clear and precise for a layman to understand. Plus you have a great speaking voice. You have a career in radio awaiting you too.
I’ve seen Condos in 10x times worse condition in South America, Italy, and they get hit by earthquakes and don’t fall like that! Modern architecture is just not designed to fall out like that unless it’s demolished! Like we saw the Solomon Brothers building collapse during 9/11.
I call foul play for sure.
Podcast. Great podcast voice - radio is dead 😅
@@maxamillion6958While controlled demolition could explain any collapse do we want to conclude controlled demolition immediately and not investigate other possibilities like design flaws, construction flaws, problems caused by post construction modifications? Try to look at it from the angle of we are looking for a way to cover up foul play to there may be more going on here than that. It’s easy to say controlled demolition then stop investigating. I would even say it’s a cop out to protect the people who designed, constructed and modified the building. “Let’s assume they all did their jobs properly and blame controlled demolition,” seems to be what you are advocating.
Investigations shouldn’t start out with a predetermined conclusion then only consider only the evidence that seems to prove that conclusion. Investigations should start will an infinite number of possible conclusions then use the evidence to narrow down those possibilities until the conclusion is determined. Controlled demolition should be one of those possibilities.
Man made demolition to destroy servers from releasing blackmail.
McAfee had a room there
@@maxamillion6958don't buy a new house built in the past 2 years in USA. They are made so cheap now, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a water leak months down the road. God forbid you look at vinyl siding 1 year down. Cheap cheap labor and they can't even overlap siding properly
Jeff, youre the best! youre the only one left covering this.
most people still interested live in Floriduh lolz scared to death of concrete structures which are literally everywhere
Well this event is now screwing condo owners, pricing everyone out of their homes with HOAs and insurance skyrocketing.
I call foul play.
@@maxamillion6958 This event is far from the reason insurance prices are skyrocketing across Florida - single family home insurance is skyrocketing too. In fact, my home insurer just dropped me despite never having made a claim for close to a decade. This is happening everywhere to almost everyone. It’s a combination of causes, one being related to politics/state legislators, one being increased weather instability, and another is the neglect/lack of checks and balances involving the insurance industry.
Got news for you. Do you know what you own in a condo? The air between your walls and floor. THAT'S ALL. You own ZERO land.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 the same argument can be made for homes if you stop paying your property tax.
You were right!
Makes me understand all the annoying building inspections approvals when we made an addition
Yep- often when you think something is a bit overkill, you check it out and find it is both logical and has been put in as a result of previous disasters.
I don't see why anyone would find that annoying...
They may be annoying, but they exist for good reason. Safety protocols, it is said, are written in blood.
Thanks for following up on this again Jeff. I still get an eerie feeling because I used to drive by this building every day on the way to work when I lived in MB. The railing on the balconies always made these buildings stand out. RIP to those that were lost in this tragedy.
What a Great video! We had a building that was immediately evacuated here in Myrtle Beach after that collapse, the people who lived there have never been allowed back in…
That is why this condo incident should be looked at like a conspiracy.
@@maxamillion6958 So, you are saying it didn't collapse? Please explain. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
@@natural_nc7230 - of course it collapsed!! LoL!! But people need to get their heads out of their asses and start asking the right questions, not how it happened, but why? Because this tragedy is being used to price people out of their condo homes everywhere! And I Don’t want to hear the pathetic “greedy /neglectful condo owner response”. I’ve seen buildings in South America in 10x worse condition! And they don’t fall like that. LoL!!
If you are speaking about Renaissance Towers, the condo owners were allowed back in last year. Repairs are ongoing.
@@natural_nc7230 LOL!! Of course it collapsed. Not quite sure what u saw in my comment above that would make you think that.
I was hoping you were going to post a video about the NIST update. Thanks for keeping up with this the entire time. It's amazing how people can let things get as far as they did with that place and scary to know it's happening elsewhere too.
I have followed all your videos on the Champlain Towers collapse. This one is truly an excellent presentation. It is amazing how much information you gave us in a half hour video. It was also great to see that many of your original concepts matched the results of the complex analyses of the data.
Good work as always.
Wow, I understand counting frames and going frame by frame, but counting pixels is a whole new level of painstaking!
Just like measuring millimeters on a map. You can estimate miles or kilometers distance between two real-world points.
In the video one pixel might equal one meter & scale of the building can be determined.
Jeff, I've been with you throughout this entire series regarding the collapse from the very beginning video. Thank you so much for making these updates and continuing to keep us informed all along the process! Your expertise has made this such an interesting journey with such clear and easy to understand narration. I know I speak for many others when I say a HUGE Thank YOU for your efforts on this project!! You've done an incredible job!
Thanks Jeff for the complete look into this complex problem. This explains a whole lot of problems in that place.
No, it does not explain anything! It’s just speculation.
The problems are all in your head.
Leave those children alone
@@maxamillion6958 It provides a possible explanation for some of the observed phenomena- in fact, more than one. I'm not sure why you're nit-picking about it.
This is honestly pretty terrifying stuff when you think about it. We’re supposed to trust that buildings aren’t just going to collapse on their own like this.
It's UNBELIEVABLY RARE, tho. Once they're up, they like to STAY up. In fact. I can show you a building and a garage that are substantially collapsed. And they're STILL standing! In the Midwest.
Buildings move all the time. You'll see cracks on baseboards, walls where the seam is and so on. It's very common, but I think unless it's a BIG crack, or it's a diagonal in particular, you're ok unless it's very unlevel. And even THEN! I've known buildings w SUBSTANTIAL sink in a corner. Been like that 40+ years and STILL there.
I think it's possibly an issue if say, you have a BIG crack from the corner or a window or a door diagonally, or a step pattern in your brickwork masonry.
But again, I've seen some stuff and never heard of a building falling on its own. Minus this one.
I knew an old school they TRIED to take it down w a wrecking ball through the roof downwards and that shite was NOT moving. Lol. I lived half a block away and I felt it!
They tried moving that building down for WEEKS.
The junk they replaced it with is cheap, overpriced garbage and I wouldn't house my dogs in it, ESPECIALLY not for some insane 4 million! LOL!
My building had slightly worn stairs. Over 115 years old. New pos down the block used garbage to make the concrete and you can see cracking and crumbling within FIVE years! Lol.
Some minor concrete I put it in is still in perfect condition over 14 years later, too.
A fool and their money...
If a building is built 10 times stronger then yes it will still stand, even after much weakening. BUT not all old buildings are great. Brick buildings in an earthquake will shake apart & fall.
Goodbye residents (crushed)
That's why maintenance and inspections are necessary, this could have been avoided
@@electrictroy2010 Brick buildings do definitely survive an earthquake. Not crappy mid-century or modern brick building tho. they've a case of to much capitalistic greed to to be built to withstand such things
Thanks for this follow up, been waiting for this one. Also I have to say, the NIST data presentation in this is top notch!
Unlike NIST work on se pt 1 1 -01 which was nonsensical
@@tomhollingsworth8201so is this
Nonsensical because you can’t comprehend/understand it? That would make sense, if you hear someone speaking a language you don’t know, that would sound nonsensical too. For the rest of us who do understand such things and aren’t willing to throw in the towel and just believe in random conspiracies, it made sense.
@@TitaniumTurbine You know nothing about me, yet here you are making assumptions because you disagree. I can comprehend just fine. I can make a point by point analysis of the failings in the NIST reports regarding that day. Just because in one brief comment I did not, says nothing about my intellect. Your comment however, says much about yours. What I don’t comprehend is why people like you can’t make an argument without being disrespectful. I’m sorry you had to come down off your high horse to write your “scathing” retort.
@@TitaniumTurbine 🥴
Great analysis Jeff, the warning signs were there and the engineers signed off on it as structurally sound
It's really a shame they never recovered that Notifier Fire alarm control panel out of the lobby. According to the company that installed it, it was still reporting up until the day of the demolition (as it has batteries and a POTS phone connection). That control panel would have contained essential logs that could indicate structural failure. For example, if a sprinkler flow alarm, or SLC circuit fault trouble came in, this would have been logged with a precise time stamp and rough idea of the location if the fault/alarm. A broken sprinkler line will trigger a fire alarm condition on the panel; a severed wire or short circuit would report as a trouble condition...all of which would be logged and reported to the central station.
Yes, this is a fire alarm system, not a building collapse detection system, but I still believe it would have played a crucial role in this investigation.
the frustrating thing is the creation of LLCs. Builders create an LLC then scatter like rats when its completed. No one will be found liable except for a few broke individuals; not any corporation.
Everyone who built this died of old age. The deal maker is dead, the architect is dead, the engineer is dead, the people running the construction firms are dead. And I think all the firms that were involved were dissolved. The only significant entity left is the town and building commission that approved it.
@@k53847 I think you missed the point. The point is that ever since the 14th amendment was passed, it has been used for corporations, not for the slavery. LLCs and LLPs dissolve after its purpose and not held liable like a person. SCOTUS has said corporations are “a person” but they dissolve them so they cannot be held liable. It’s pretty common to this day. Nothing has changed.
It wasn’t built the best but years of neglect did it in.
@k53847 if no laws change, this will continue and get worse
Pfizer does that, all of the llc’s took the hit for the huge fine they had to pay for fraud.
As per usual, great presentation Jeff. That's alot of information to process. Can't wait for the next update.
Great video. All our prayers for those touched by this tragedy.
This video and analysis is unbelievable. Great job Jeff!
I'm studying emergency management (as an "elder" aged 38 haha) and just wanted to say how much I appreciate your videos!! I hope it saves many lives in the future. Too many people have already forgotten about this and other events that were preventable, so you, your expertise and compassion are very much needed!
I hope so too!
Thank u so much for compiling all this. I was following the collapse scenarios, videos and accounts since it happened but hadn’t looked for anything recently. This popped up on YT for me today thankfully as a reminder. I was wondering where the NIST investigation was at this point in time, so again, thank you.
Thank you so much for the in-depth update Jeff! Great to see you vindicated. You’ve had the best coverage yet understandable for the non-engineer!
Glad it was helpful!
jeff, you have done amazing work on this surfside condo collapse. for a complicated topic you have done a skillful job of organizing and presenting it, i appreciate it.
I am I name is just a normal name. I can tell you there was something horrible and something bad going on there at the condominium because me and a couple friends I do believe it’s Justin and Sadie, who jumped from the balcony and Justin didn’t make it and got teleported by a plant because he had a gift gift of the devil and a demon was let out from the basement. They have it on camera on the body of a cup Tim if you go back and look over the cop, body cam do you say that is a demon and where are the flames come from the Earth that from the bottom we look at videos
#hinkley #missingboy #teleportplants
Wow, thank you, Jeff! I absolutely love the way you take complex information and break it down for us, as well as using images and blueprints to show where things are happening. Awesome job as usual!
Glad it was helpful!
I believe the water intrusion on that deck for 40 years in combination with that connecting point is what seems to be the cause. Despite the design I still think the lack of maintenance is too blame.
I think the sister buildings should make sure their deck has a waterproofing membrane and is angled for proper drainage. As well as not being overloaded. But really I would only sleep well if some parking spots were sacrificed to build a new support if such a thing is possible.
Thanks for the comprehensive update!
I know the north building went into looking over their problems after the collapse of South, and was looking at the garage support right away where they jacked up things with braces fast, but I hope they go back over the garage with the new findings of missing foundation rebar. I think they owners in North are lucky the building is more square and not the stretched version CT South.
I think there was shoddy workmanship and multiple design errors too. When staying in multi-story apartment blocks in Dubai, I look very carefully at columns and ceilings in the basement parking garages, and so far, they've all looked pristine, with no cracking, staining, evidence of water ingress, despite having been built by low wage South Asian labour. Ironically, I believe a Dubai property developer, Damac, has bought the Champlain Towers site.
I didn't like ANYTHING about how those supports in the garage were! They were WAY too thin for so many cars moving around!
At a Trader Joe's garage, I can't even put my arms around the supports. They're HUGE. Only a 4 story building, too. It has the bones of a factory, which I'll take ANY day. They're EXTREMELY overbuilt for residential and they often come w sprinklers all set.
I can point to a flooring factory and the old Ludwig drum factory in Chicago. Very overbuilt for condos. But I'll GUARANTEE they'll outlive us.
Fascinating. This is how I found your channel. Nice to see your work affirmed like this. Well done. Thanks for sharing updates.
Many thanks!
Wow absolutely blown away by your attention to detail I covered this when it happened on my podcast episode American collapse and you sir had the best then and now analysis!
SPECIFICALLY the column explaination video was the reason WHY i remember and subbed you!
Thank you Jeff. I appreciate your easy to digest updates on this collapse.
It’s honestly so fascinating just how much valuable information we can gather from short video clips like these. Your content is very informative.
Thank you Jeff. You worked very hard on this!
To condense all that info in 30 mins, fantastic work. With this being south Florida & the amount of just Ts & hurricanes this building has been through. Honestly it looks like some inspectors during construction got some nice vacations.
Such educational videos every time but at the same time incredibly chilling and unsettling.
I'm actually AMAZED it stood up 40 years!
just imagine how many columns in South Florida have concrete columns with rebar that is inadequately spaced apart. scary, great job Jeff
I’ve seen shoddy looking rebar in local construction sites ever since I started watching these videos. I doubt it is just south Florida
I always knew your analyses were on point... great work as always! :)
Excellent work Jeff!
Thanks so much for the update.
It's a credit to yourself that NIST have covered a lot of the same aspects that you covered in your previous videos.
Thanks very much for the update. I subscribed to your channel after your earliest video on the Miami Condo Collapse. Your analysis looks quite rigorous, and your presentation and digesting of the data from many sources, particularly this latest NIST update are first rate! Great job!
Welcome back William!
Excellent videos! Watched your FIU bridge collapse and this one, and has really peaked my interest into a field I didn’t know I’d enjoy.
Still, Surfside was an interesting one, more so due to being a first responder, I spent months partaking in that operation and the sights, smells and sounds were so overwhelming, that actually having a “debriefing” session breaking down what led to the collapse helps puts things into a different perspective.
Excellent work of dumbing it down for the regular folks like me!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Thank you for still covering this, Jeff... and with great detail!
Great summary presentation. Looks like the overloaded pool deck with planters, sands, pavers, plus the equipment traveling on the deck, pulled down the connecting tower.
The cracking, leaking, seeping, overloaded pool deck was weakened by the corroded rebar, until deck collapse. Very scary.
Great video man, I’ve used several of your videos when doing building construction with my shift. Especially when we go over building collapse and how to deal with that type of situation. Luckily the town I work in doesn’t have a building like this. But we do have a 4 story apartment complex, it was built in the very early 1900s as a department store and it was converted to apartments.
What wrong w that? I'll put an old building over the shite they vomit up in a month ANY DAY.
I've watched them remove a very old school building and even WITH a wrecking ball banging down on the roof, that mess was NOT moving! Half a block away I felt it at MY house!
I've seen VERY unlevel stuff like, "Eh, I've been VISIBLY sinking 42 years, and still here..."
Watched the total GARBAGE they replace it with go up in under a month for 4 million, and it's just hilarious. No real wood anywhere for all that money! It's a lot of MDF. Cheap concrete blocks that start to visibly crumble within 5 years.
Meanwhile, my 120 y.o. house had MAYBE 10% wear on the steps over that whole time. And I KNOW we didn't pay 4 million for it! Lol. A fool and their money...
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 They turned the apartment complex into affordable housing……… The place is turning into a dump unfortunately. It was a beautiful building inside. Now you go the basement there is sh** spray painted all over the walls, trash everywhere.
Your analysis and expert explanation has been incredible. I don’t know how anyone could criticize you. Thank you so much for in-depth videos. So much appreciated.
This is so scary.
Great job, BTW!
I watched all your videos back then.
Thank you for your support and for watching my videos!
Right before you said so yourself, I was thinking “man props to you, the federal investigation looks remarkably similar to the one you did a while back!” Good work my friend, you are an endangered species in this country, one who uses a clear concise and open mind to be OBJECTIVE and generate truthful conclusions about the world around you. Thank you for all of your time and energy man, all of us appreciate your videos a lot
Excellent presentation Jeff!
Great analysis! 20:44
That rebar overlap, especially with the upper rebars terminating about 23 inches ABOVE the ground level slab instead of continuing well below it, looks like a HORRIBLE discontinuity, placed right at the very root of the support column.
Jeff, your videos are a complete "education" for us non-engineer laypersons. What a nightmare of mutually-reinforcing design, construction and "inspection" (not!) errors. YIKES.
You’ve done a great job analyzing this over the last few years. I don’t have any evidence that the NIST looked at your videos as part of their analysis, but they would have been remiss not to at least look to see what you found and consider it, so I’m pretty sure they did.
Thanks for that Geoff
Jeff presents the best scenarios driven by solid facts as they come in. The Jeff's two years ago analysis was spot on.
I'm a mechanical engineer, not civil. But I can appreciate the physics and egnineering concepts you bring to light.
Great work! That was a great video thanks for reading through all of that and presenting it so well!
Incredible, that video where you overlayed the beams gets redone by NIST. You have a brilliant mind and have made me realize who we choose to consume content of matters immensely in this age of access to information.
Im surprised at how im able to watch your entire video update, being as im not an engineer. That means you explain things well! Kudos Jeff!
One of your best videos. The amount of analysis being performed is amazing, but you broke it down well.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm glad you found the analysis helpful.
Great summary. Must be a good feeling to see that they basically agreed with the analysis you have been doing. (the picture with the view down the ramp....)
Jeff have you ever heard if NIST has watched your videos? I have watched every video of yours on this and followed from day one. I am so impressed that your theories have been confirmed as being spot on especially with limited resources compared with them. Great job as usual.
That would be cool, they probably don't have the time to watch my speculation, they deal in hard facts and do all their own work, and they have the samples, I don't.
His theories are spot on?
Like what for instance?
@jeffostroff why did McAfee before death post this address?
This was man made demolition
Same as 9/11
@@maxamillion6958 One of them is discussed in the video....
@@maxamillion6958Go chronologically through his videos and you will see but particularly the collapse of the column in the garage prior to the building collapse. He identified thus by having a shot of the parking ramp from the sister building and overlaying with the tourist video that was confirmed by NIST enhanced version of the tourist video
Hi man, i was following it 3 years ago, and now i was searching for updates and came back to your channel and update about this collaps, greetings from belgium (europe)
I find it interesting that engineers have similar interests that are so different. I am a network engineer but also interested in building collapses, submersible implosions, and costco deals. Lol
Engineers be Engineers
Well, submersible implosions are very very short list with everyone else than Mr. born silver spoon up the arse Rush Job following proper engineering and common sense.
Only thing he pushed forward was how to avoid regulations...
People who went to occasional commercial Titanic dives on Mirs got far better deal for far less.
Great job Jeff. Very clear series providing insight into the collapse. And good to hear about the nist update.
Outstanding explanation! Thank you Jeff
Jeff has done the best analytical videos with hard evidence and examples, not only of this collapse, but of other disasters as well. Good work!
FANTASTIC report!!!! TONS of GREAT info and data! LOVE IT!
Thank you for ALL your time and data gathering, and the presentation!
I was wondering what has been going on with this and the presentation was a HUGE update!
Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@jeffostroff Can you post a link where we can see all available videos?
@Stealthmuiz JUST click on his name. Then click search and “condo” which will give you all the relevant videos
It's impressive how technology and modern analytical tools can de- and re- construct an event of this nature. Thanks for putting this summary together.
Thank you Jeff for producing such a detailed and insightful video of what happened to make the tower collapse. I was riveted.
Thank you Jeff for all your hard work on this over the years! I have been following along with you on this from the beginning and my thoughts from the beginning have been pretty much the same as yours 👍. I appreciate your scientific analysis on this for the past several years. There are only 2 people i have followed that have a breakdown of this whole situation that makes sense and you are one of those people👍
Thank you Jeff. As usual superb engineering analysis, I really appreciate all the time and effort that you spent reviewing the many many documents. It's appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Glad you like them!
Thank you, Jeff, so much, for your HOURS of work, investigating this condo collapse + your analysis AND your awesome explanations of what could have gone wrong.
You did an OUTSTANDING job explaining everything!!!
I learned a lot!!
Thank you for sharing your expertise.
I sincerely appreciate your hours + hours + hours of work, these last 3 years!!!
❤❤❤
Thank you soo much for this - exceptional presentation covering the Miami Condo Collapse - great work - you are the BEST!!
Your videos on the condo collapse are super interesting to watch! The horror of this building going down has really not left me since it happened. May this be a lesson for proper building construction, maintenance, and additional unit weight increases from renovation after occupation.
I watched your videos when this happened
Well done
This segment as well
Thanks for covering this
Excellent report and presentation. Nist is an unimpeachable group. I’ve been in the business for 40 years and that report varied my observations when we all saw it on TV that day. The test lab work was very well done. Even if briefly shown,I was able to see the results . The computer modeling and photos showed so much.
Very good report- A+
YEs NIST is very thorough
Thanks for a great analysis- this is such important information RIP to all the residents
It's amazing your work you put in in this video... not just the information but also the translation you made for others to know more about it in an easy way... ist awesome, really... it's perfect in both Spanish and English
Thanks Jeff for this fascinating insight, excellent work as ever.
I can't believe it's been three years sinvce I watched your first video about this incident. Wow. You called so many things correctly! Nice job.
I really appreciate these videos. Thanks for your time putting them together.
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much for the update. I've been following this story since it happened, and you've provided a wonderful service with this summary.
Really interesting, thanks for putting together this presentation.
9:27 - Police officer was watching TH-cam while on duty 😂😂
Excellent video series! I’ve been following your entire body of work on this event since your very first upload 👍🏻
Many thanks for another thorough and clear review of the NIST work, Jeff!
Glad to make these videos, and thanks for watching
Incredible work here. This is the best explanation of the research to date that I've seen.
Glad you think so!
So with these design/implementation issues, what implications are there for Champlain North?
I would hope that Champlain towers N is completing their 40 year recertification by now because they started it in 2021 I believe. They do have the same floor plan but they have two fewer units per floor than the Champlain tower S did and their pool deck is smaller and doesn't have all of those planters and never had the palm trees like you saw at Champlain tower S. That said I haven't been able to glean any information out of it unless their engineer comes out publicly says what they've been doing but so far he has voiced that he is not concerned with the structure of the Champlain towers north and you know he is keeping up with every bit of news that comes out about the South tower
Jeff, NIST is just VALIDATING everything you've done for several years. 😮
good video, as always, thanks Jeff
Thank you Jeff! As always your transparency and wealth of information share concerning these type issues are both greatly appreciated.
My pleasure!
Great Update Jeff 👍👍
I grew up in Florida during the 70s and 80s. My father worked in construction. It was an open secret that every cost was cut to put up the condos along the beaches. People joked about them being "temporary" housing.
98 ppl lost their lives due to greed and laziness.. I really miss the old days.. ppl had pride in there work
When was this old days?
This place was built in the old days….
Greed and laziness aren't new concepts and societies have been struggling with these issues since the beginning. People are gonna people.
@kalabalik4166 were greed wasn't infested in every corporation... The problems had been reported in 2018 and noted as "much worse" in April 2021. A $15 million program of remedial works had been approved before the collapse, but the main structural work had not started. Other possible factors include land subsidence, insufficient reinforcing steel, and corruption during construction.
Another big factor was the penthouse was a controversial part of Champlain Towers South's design, as an exemption was needed to exceed Surfside's height limit.[20] The penthouses were also not part of the original building permits.
They only saw the $$$ signs, and they chose to ignore the potential (ticking time bomb) danger to the residents..
@michaelmcdermott8385 Yes, the building was built 40 years ago.. but effected by modern-day corruption.. By stack condos onto eachoter with no breathing room.. It was also reported that during construction, corruption had been cited by multiple local media sources as a potential contributing cause of the collapse.
Great videos always. I think I say this every time and I need to stop but this building was a time bomb from the day it was built. and the deferred maintenance that every owner of those condos did over the years, everybody's to blame.
Just came across this tonight on youtube. TH-cam as I've heard has more viewers now than the 3 major TV networks. Great video and covering a lot of detail.
Given what we've learned so far, how can a potential buyer of a single flat protect himself? Presumably, a real estate inspection would only cover the unit itself. Relying on the ever changing condo or coop board for keep up with building maintenance when *they* aren't required to have engineering experience seems like it leaves individual unit owners at the mercy of fate. What should be on the look out for when purchasing a high rise flat?
Not true, you can get any part of the building public areas inspected. Be smart and ask for upcoming work and maintenance info. I was in RE. Got out. Many, many slimy people. Yuck.
What’s RE? THE Chanplain condo board was not the problem. The residents simply refused to spend the money to do the maintenance. The meetings devolved into shouting matches:
Board: “The concrete is falling apart!”
Residents: “Noooo we don’t want to spend the money!” They had rather die.
Thank you so much for keeping us up to speed. For the people who lost homes, and especially for the people who lost loved ones, the collapse of the Champlain Towers needs to remain current in the public’s mind.
Design Flaws in the Pool Deck lead to this tragedy.
The garage supports were rusting and spalling. Wouldn't have been long. W thar obvious water intrusion. They were WAY too thin to support moving vehicles. Too. Obviously.
Enlightening as always. Thank you!
It pleases me to see that you have been vindicated.
Thank you for continuing the cover this. Your videos have been my favorite by far on this subject (and others as well, like Oceangate), so I'm glad you're still updating us on the investigation.
I appreciate your support and I'm glad you enjoy the content Shannon