I was JUST rewatching ur old videos very excited Honestly SLC has this weird meta feeling to it. It’s like a housewife parody that takes itself serious and its sooo insane to watch uncanny valley style. As much as I liked heather and Meredith in the first 2 seasons they really did themselves in with their support for Jen and now heathers backtracking. Lisa is just good tv she delusional and I love it. I honestly really like Dana and Angie K. I think Angie has that desperation that honestly fits the unsettling vibes that comes with SLC. I just would like to see where that goes but if they end up leaving I’ll be okay.
I love that you used the term "unsettling" because I think that is the word that best describes this franchise....something about it is so off in a almost scary avant garde art deco film type of way lol. Like I wouldnt be surprised if at the final season of this franchise they all turn to the camera and laugh and say this was all a scripted social experiment or something lmao. It's just too weird but sooo entertaining
@@mirandapillsbury7885 dude I LITERALLY had a dream that happened when I was rebinging season 2 a couple months ago! It just doesn’t feel right yk? The Wendigo of housewife franchises
The way Heather and Whitney fell out makes me feel like they weren't as close as they were making it out the first two seasons. Like it still doesn't add up to me.
Naaa they were close. Whitney changed and Heather didn't. She started standing up for herself and asking to be seen and Heather just couldn't be bothered so she dumped her. I loved both in s1&2 so I'm not biased. But I think this was on Heather.
Yes!! I rewatched Jersey recently and I was always team gorga .. literally from season 3 up until somewhere during season 13. I actually started questioning things when Teresa and Melissa went on UGT bc Teresa speaking about how they got on the show behind her back and starting shit with her before then and honestly I always thought Teresa was just not smart enough to keep a lie straight .. but shes sang thing same tune for over a decade … now going back there is a lot of things Melissa and joe both have done then was like Teresa how could you?! I feel that there’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes and Melissa does her shit behind cameras whereas Teresa does it all for the world to see so she looks like she’s the bad guy with a hardon for Melissa … then the whole Gia thing. I don’t think she should be getting involved with that Shit period however joe and Melissa saying Gia called joe to say leave Melissa you can do better … in the middle of the feud coming back first off I do not think for a single second that even if Gia thought that, that she’d ever tell joe that. I don’t think she’d ever give them that ammo does that make sense? But her saying if Melissa doesn’t want to go to the wedding fine, leave her home and you come .. you and mom can do better for nonno and nonna seems more real. But to lie on your niece on national TV and even if she did say what joe and Melissa say she said .. to throw your niece/goddaughter under the bus like that is fucked up. I could go on and on from the beginning the christening - Melissa says giudice charged gorga … didn’t happen. Then season 5 again Melissa’s like joe giudice starts charging at joe and I … yes he came in hot yelling apologize! But it again was joe gorga who went after giudice. Let me make one thing very very clear I DO NOT THINK TERESA IS AN INNOCENT IN ANYYYYYYYY OF THIS. I do not think that at all. I do think however that the gorgas are not innocent at all! They really had me fooled. So I’d love to see a deep dive on them and see others opinions of that.
@@kristinxoxthe gorgas has always been the problem since their first episode. Girls trip was the real Teresa . She was more chill and relaxed because no one was coming for her with bullshit besides Melissa .
I totally agree with you about watching the season in one sitting! My theory is that production filmed a lot with Jen expecting to get one more season out of her during her trial, but when she pleaded guilty they went back and cut a lot out so that the chapter on Jen was closed and the show could move on with the core 4 and the reason why the drama felt "stale" was due to production making due with what they had.
Heather is bizarre to me. She can’t be bothered to care about her best friends abuse but constantly sticks up for Jenn a person who’s even punched her in the face. Jen has probably blackmailed them both.
I seen alot of ppl hated Whitney and I loved her this season. She did great tbh and kinda carried the season with her and heathers friendship faltering. She was vulnerable about her family’s issues, her trauma, and she was still able to have good moments such as partying and being in the drama. She was great. I’m team Lisa Barlow. I couldn’t even get through the second season reunion cuz they all were on Lisa’s behind and it was annoying seeing them bully and team up on her. I think this season could’ve been better but wasn’t a great season.
I disagree about Danna, I really appreciated that she was seemingly the only person who was actually willing to bring up Jen’s crimes to her face, but I do agree that she wasn’t a good fit for the cast
She felt like viewers voice to me like she was just as lost by Jen’s behavior and everyone’s reaction to her and her crimes as everyone watching idk i lived for her
Litney is hands down my favourite thing to come out of the season, and I think Angie K did a very good job endearing herself to the ladies and the audience (in small doses)
It really feels like Heather decided to just give 2 testimonials giving opposite points of view of every topic and let production pick whichever one they wanted to use. The problem is when the ladies questioned her she didn’t remember or know what she was supposed to say.
Great video as always. I have a few comments of my own on the season: -We seem to be in a strange phase of Housewives where the cast is mainly superfans of Housewives and Bravo and it's the lunatics running the asylum. In general principle I miss the drama being organic, not SO staged and thirsty -WeAther have both become insufferable, even if they're personally on the outs. Both are starved for fame and Whitney's baby voice is really becoming maddening -Lisa is a monster and Meredith has become really insulting and condescending -If there's a third Angie next season that might be a dealbreaker. Who knew Utah was fully of so many thirsty Angies desperate to be on Bravo? -As for Jen, in addition to jail time, the best punishment for her is obscurity. It's time to leave her behind and move on to bigger, better, and brighter things.
Oh, boy. You better believe that I love overanalyzing Housewifes, so, now that the season is over, let me do my over-the-top innecessary essay about RHOSLC3. *Introduction* First of all, I think we all agree that this has been a bizarre season, probably the most undercooked that RHOSLC has served to us until now. The reasons why I guess it has happened are: *Problems:* 1. The cast was too small: with such a reduced number of housewifes, creating drama was something difficult for a show that relies on it. I mean, if there are only four people in the room and you are meant to fight against someone or get fired, there aren't many options... The lacking number of ladies, also made the alliances shift in weird unexpected ways that, although intriguing, felt chaotic. They five had to travel and do stuff together and, at the same time, fight eachother, so I found myself a couple of times thinking... What the hell is going on? How could they fight and reunite fight and reunite ad aeternum? 2. There wasn't much going on: well, to be honest, the ladies don't necessarily have to fight eachother. If their lifes had been interesting enough, they would have had something to show us. But, unfortunately, there wasn't much... Besides Whitney's recovery (about a traume never specified) and Heather's book (remember: she launched a party for the cover), the five main cast didn't have any endearing personal storyline. 3. Jen was problematic af: Jen's trial tipping point polarized the group. When the cast was larger, Jen's legal problems appeared in a more subtled way, like one of the rest of the storylines, and the ladies had more room to tip-toe around it. But it coming to an end, made them pick a side, and oh boy, it was so uncomfortable watch it unfold... *The ladies:* 1. Lisa: I would say her character has been revitalized the most and that she seems to be the great winner of the season, landing floor with her four legs in most of the situations. Lisa seems to be the type of girl you hate in high school (she's rich, pretty, popular and gets whatever she wants) and that's why I think so many people hate her and was vandalized during second season. However, her hot mic rant and her showdown with Meredith showed another face of her, more humble, and I think she was in the rght side of her story during her apoplogy parade, that lasted for episodes. Besides, some of the most hilarious moments of the season are hers: singing 'Away in manger', impersonating Meredith's "Don't go there", "At least I don't go popping pills... BITCH". All of them are so unintentional... I guess that the Lisa herself doesn't realize how hysterical she is. 2. Meredith: Oooooof. My favourite housewife of SLC really made me go through a path of thorns this years. I understand she has all the right tobe pissed with Lisa after her mic moment (please Bravo, keep playing it once per episode), but, for me, Lisa was on the right. She appologized many times and, while it was Meredith's prerogative to forgive her or not, instead of giving a clear answer, Meredith dragged the topic the whole season. Not only that, she reacted by putting nasty rumors in circulation. All of that, it didn't serve any other purpose than reviving Lisa's character. Anyway, I love Meredith because she's more mature, intelligent, articulated and well-spoken than the rest of the ladies, but this season I've felt her a bit out of her game. LVP's machinations don't suit her well. (Side note: am I the only one having a crush o Seth?) 3. Whitney: Oh boy, this season really lether chaotic, deranged, wild energy run. I've never been a fan, because I have problems figuring out who she really is: is she a pot stirrer, a batton passer for other's second hand dramas, a "little girl" who doesn't stand out that much? Until now she has never seemed to commit to a single role, but this season she said "why choose? Let be everything everywhere all at once" and the proceed to create havoc in every room she entered. I don't know, I felt her a little bit all over the place and didn't commit to any of her antics. 4. Heather: for me it's still a yes. She brings much of the weird sarcastic energy, a la Khloe Kardashian, but I still get why some viewers turned her back. The whole black eye drama was poorly handed and her position during Jen's trial was painful to see. In any case, I can mildly excuse her: first, I get that she didn't want to add insult to the injury by throwing Jen under the bus regarding her eye; second, the situation of Jen was difficult to handle. It would have been much more easier to send her to the curb, but, after years of filming with someone, I get she may have developed some sense of respectability towards, not only her, but her family, and probably didn't want to make them suffer more by treating their mother as a liability. 5. Jen: the mess that we don't need any longer. One would expect that, after the whole FBI and trial happening, Jen would take her attitude a notch down. Well, let me tell you that it dindn't happen at all. She has been so abrassive and agressive as always. A dog of all barks and no bites, in my opinion. Watching her acting all tough knowing how everything was going to end for her really put her character one step aside: the emperor was naked. She was nothing but biter, throwing wine to Angy, lauching her shoes off board, taking receipts to harm the others... She hitted the fan and none of her antics really ment nothing. Not any longer. Not today, Satan. We don't want it. 6. The friends. With such an small ensemble, you can get why Bravo decided to throw not one but three new friends to the mix, just hopping one of them will stick to the wall. One of the things I like is that the cast at least seemed diverse and portrayed different versions of what being a Housewife means: we have the chaotic pot stirrer Angie H (in line with Lisa and Whitney); the more mature and articulated Danna (Meredith) and the in your face attitude Angie K (Jen). I am lost about which ones will be picked for a comeback and which not. All of them have reasons to return but, at the same time, I feel that none of them made such a big splash. Anyway, the show has such a low number of housewiifes, that I wouldn't be surprised if we get an overall approved and all them three come back net season. After all, we need new sap in the franchise. *Conclusions* Well, as you can imagine, my opionion regarding the third installment of RHOSLC is not the best. The season felt limited, orthopedic and continually folding over herself, bringing once and again old feudsand creating forced situations and alliances out of nowhere because there weren't any other ladies. Jen's legal problems should have been the main storyline (as Erika's were in RHOBV season 11),and instead of that we get a room full with four beheaded chickens screaming and feunding (and only, ocasionally, delighting us with an 'Away in manger' recital). Hopefully, the producers will realize that the current formula is exhausted, will let the ladies rest for some months, and come back with some new cast members and better storylines.
You got everything spot on, even productions weird antics this season. Rumour mill says production set the black eye stuff up, told HG that they had video footage which they never showed her, hence why she was saying ‘they know who they are’. Jen 1000% has stuff on Meredith flashback to the reddit fish rumours of last years reunion. Personally Ive enjoyed all 3 FOHs and would like to see them all get a shot at a ❄️ as they each bring something different. Angie K had more loyalty to Lisa then Jen and Meredith and Angie H are friends off show. Wish they had shown Danas fight with Jen as she is a wildcard to watch if she comes back and would love to see an interaction between her and Ms Cosby. Finally Mary needs to come back FT as now Jen has gone the light will be fully on her and this could either work in her favour or be her downfall (the tone deaf remarks 2.0) love love love ( in my Teresa voice) your channel. Please can you do a deep dive on RHOA the later years would love to see your view point on Nenes later seasons and bolo gate. RHOP and Miami please! 🧿
I don't think Mary will come back in order to protect her religious cult. Can't stand the creep but she was smart to leave as the heat was being turned up. She would have seen how dangerous it could have been to stay on the show, particularly as the whole JS arrest go down.
i only watched the season one time week to week, but i had a completely different read of heather. she comes off very phony to me, and one of the biggest culprits of playing the "game" of housewives. i fully believe that her & angie were saying those things about lisa at the basketball game, and when whitney brought it up on camera heather was not cool with that and lied her ass off to protect herself and angie. who really knows tbh but idk that was just my read of the situation. whitney seemed very believable and taken aback when heather denied it lol
Love the deep dive as always. I agree that there was something tonally different about S3 after such strong opening seasons but cast changes and the undertone of Jen Shah's legal woes (Sutton voice) made it feel quite heavy. I think the season could have been lifted had they injected some new blood as a welcome distraction but it felt like they wanted to centre the season around Jen's drama and just keep it to the core cast we've grown to know and love. The addition of friends helped as I was craving something more, especially with such clear divides in camp. Whitney Rose - I've always been a bit on the fence with Whitney, I sometimes feel that she uses her spirituality and need to 'cleanse' as a vehicle to force drama and essentially stir the pot. I think the way her abuse trauma had resurfaced from therapy seemed quite extraordinary and it was weird how it was handled by the rest of the cast, I don't know if I was expecting to see more given how many therapy sessions we saw Dorit in but once it was dismissed by Heather it felt like the story subsided. I do prefer Bad Weather together, however, in having this divide from Heather, I feel like Whitney has had to find her own voice and therefore strayed from stirring the pot to taking a more active role. The dissension of Bad Weather feels like one of the things that made the series feel a little less joyful, especially as it seemed both Whitney and Heather played the card of wanting to go back to the way things were but having these conditions on the other for it to get there and ultimately not going anywhere. Lisa Barlow - In the first season, I could not stand Lisa but I've really grown to like her and consider her a staple of the franchise, her awkward delivery of things, her need to brag and show off and her general lack of self-awareness (at times) is so endearing. I think coming in on the back foot also helped me warm to her as she was very much sat on the naughty step, which meant she couldn't always play the holier than thou card. I think the rumours seemed wild and baseless and while it caused a lot of drama, she did handle it well by stepping aside and letting it become more about Whitney and Heather trying to line up their stories rather than entertain the idea. I think Lisa gets a lot of flack thrown at her because she puts herself on a pedestal but she seems to handle herself well. I think she just needs to admit the fact that what she said in the hot mic moment wasn't a set of random adjectives strung together. I get that she was hurt but she's clearly had these underline tensions that have caused her to think these things or at least heard some of the things second-hand. Meredith Marks - I would describe Meredith as an alpha in the pack but I also feel like I couldn't lose her from the show. Meredith has this contradicting vibe of "I DGAF" while very much revelling in whatever it is that's being said that may involve her. I also quite like that sometimes she will just disengage from an argument rather than milk it for camera time. I think of all the cast, Meredith has always been the most self-edited but I like the fact that she uses her passiveness to plant seeds rather than become a bit-part player. It did feel like a quieter season, I'm hoping without Jen that her and Heather can get a bit of a release, although they did very much put themselves in that situation. Heather Gay - I know you said she's despised now, but for me, Heather is the face of RHOSLC. I think the issue is, as you said, she was the narrator and the fun girl in the first two seasons and then it felt like she woke up in S3 and chose chaos. I get that the book may have triggered some things for her, but I also feel that Housewives have used this as an excuse for their behaviour previously. I found what you said about Whitney and Heather becoming emotionally incompatible to be sadly true, I think Heather's always had this insecurity that had made the viewer identify with her and this season it felt like she stopped being the girl you rooted for and instead was the one you wanted to shake. I think her inability to give an answer about the black eye and her creating this dynamic of keeping Whitney begging for her friendship just made it feel like she was milking moments. I don't dislike her, I think she out of everyone was marred by Jen's presence and part of me feels like she wanted to stay loyal to her because despite what Jen was going through, she wanted her to remember that she had stuck by her - which is why she still refuses to say anything against her. I'm hoping the lows of this season will encourage her to have a better S4. Jen Shah - I think it was such a bizarre season, I don't think anything could touch the drama of the police turning up in S2. It's odd to see how Jen handled discussions of her case in comparison to what was happening in Beverly Hills. While Erika seemed to have people talking behind her back that would result in a confrontation over dinner, it didn't feel like Jen caught that same heat. I think it's difficult because she does have a family so saying things to hurt her can only hurt them. I think Jen had been a massive part of the show, although I think that without her, there'll hopefully be a little bit of breathing space to have fun without people looking to each other to make sure they hadn't upset her. Angie Hamilton - The finsta storyline is still so bewildering to me, but I actually wouldn't mind to see more of Angie. Could it be a case that she's a Marlo and makes a better friend than housewife? Possibly. I think that Angie and Chris have an interesting homelife, the wealth and the pettiness to deserve a trial run in the very least. I also think that the remaining core four need more than just their allies, otherwise we're heading into RHONJ territory. Angie Katsanevas - Again, I'm happy to give her a trial snowflake. Angie felt like she came in ready to fight for a spot on the show and even in the reunion, she made sure to have her voice heard. I was confused by her flip-flopping between Lisa and Jen, but part of me feels like she was trying to drive the narrative. I think there were moments where Angie was doing more than perhaps some of the core cast. Despite this, it doesn't feel manufactured in the sense that there's no drama there, more that Angie is making sure she's got a place at the table for it. I don't know, maybe I just love a Greek Goddess themed dinner party. Danna Bui-Negrete - I really wanted to warm to Danna. At times it felt like she was the only one calling out Jen, but by this point the conversation had been had so many times over two seasons, it just didn't catch the same heat. I do feel like producers did her dirty but cutting out her row but then at the same time, it always felt like it wasn't natural for Danna to fight with the rest of the cast. It felt like she had to 'learn the ways' of being on the show, being told what the dynamic was whereas both Angie K and H came in throwing gas onto the fire. I also felt like she came into the reunion really trying to stand her ground and the rest of the cast did not seem in her favour. I can see her making guest appearances but I don't know if she'll be friend level, let alone full cast. Overall, I think the season was okay. I always find smaller cast seasons more stifling, which is why RHOC in recent years has been a bit more of a struggle. I would've preferred production to try and address this but given the quick set-up for S3, it seemed like there potentially wasn't the time. I think S4 will naturally be a big shift and I'm hoping it's onwards and upwards - especially with Mary Cosby is a friend role as this feels a lot more natural for her. Can't wait for the next video!
You mentioned Bad Weather but not Meredith and Lisa; do you not want the two to reconcile? Both of these duos were the main ones in the first two seasons
Excellent take on the emotional compatibility between Heather and Whitney 👏I’m also more of a Whitney and had to learn not everyone can/wants to go there emotionally. I appreciated your deep dive 💯
I am so impressed by this assessment of RHOSLC S3. I love that you can shed light on the emotional aspects of everyone for major moments in the show. Being held emotionally captive is perfect. I haven't heard anyone spell out the pack leader aspect of Jen and how that came to be given the behavior we see her display. It's nice to see a video where someone is able to look at friend fights from both sides.
Well detailed explanation and informative video on the off and on screen Drama happening between the cast members from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City what’s so confusing is to why Heather and Meredith are still supporting Jen even after she admitted to committing Fraud
They need Mary back for that comic relief every housewives show has 1 Shannon,Sonja, Sutton,Jenifer Aiden, Chanel ayan, all the ATL & Potomac girls are funny to be honest this 1 doesn’t have that any more & with the heavy topics & intense drama it’s desperately needed & Mary brought that in spades!! We need her cookyness back asap!
I liked Season 3 but they need a change. As for Whitney, I really cannot stand her, every time she brings something up about someone, she expects someone else to have her back on it all the time even if they don't know it to be true, she was the true gaslighter of Season 2, the gaslighter for Season 3 was Heather. I LOVED Heather but this season not so much. Honestly I think Heather needs a little break and comeback stronger. Meredith also kinda turned me off this year she really went from anti-Jen to anti-Lisa which I get but she cannot bring up the same thing over and over again. Honestly Jen (oddly enough & still don't condone what she did nor her behavior) and Lisa were the only entertaining HW's this season. I personally don't want Whitney back, I think Heather should take a break (for a season) and maybe leave Danna off next season (I Like her but she wasn't that entertaining to me, outside of standing up to Jen). Bring back Meredith, Lisa, Angie K & Angie H full time, 2 new full time and bring back queen Mary Cosby as a friend (which I think is happening)
Team Lisa Barlow, Meredith’s misplaced anger due to the loss of her father was exhausting to witness. Lisa’ couldn’t forever keep assuring so had a meltdown, understandable.
@@Markane62 Yes but Lisa had a hot mic moment because Meredith treated Lisa like crap all season by buddying up with Mary because Meredith was mad at Lisa for being friends with Jen. Such a circle! 😂
@@tonyaa8738 she didn’t treat lisa like crap tbh, she was just more reserved around lisa and that hot mic moment was so rehearsed. I was shocked that she did that to a real friend outside the show for that lil moment
honestly, whitney's been super annoying this season with her "hilling" journey. lisa's the only thing about whitney that makes her palatable. heather's eye situation was super annoying.
I think that there is a whole other layer to the Whitney/Heather breakup that wasn't shown but probably had everything to do with the show. I think they BOTH felt deeply betrayed by the other for different reasons, but Whitney was more successful arguing why she felt betrayed while Heather left us hanging.
I’ll always be die hard team Lisa Barlow and team Meredith. My experience this season was actually seeing a side of Heather I enjoyed more than ever in the first half of the season but the black eye fiasco completely jeopardised my growing Heather fondness. I had always liked Whitney but didn’t like her and heather’s unwavering view of Lisa being this insane villain in season 2. In season 3, to me Whitney actually became more frustrating to me. I can rarely follow her viewpoint in disagreements with the other castmates and a lot of it feels put on. But I hope we get more of the friends of this season (Or at least Dana). I feel like all of them if they have more time to cook in the group possibly with more newcomers and Mary it would be a really interesting dynamic. I think a Miami cast vibe with the cast for season 4 would be a really engaging shake up with lots of interesting cast dynamics.
I haven't watched The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and I'm honestly not sure if I want to watch it. This installment seems to be too dark in my opinion, especially with the Norman Church and with Jen. I honestly didn't think I would find a housewife more frustrating than the OG of the OC Vicki Gunvalson(I'm not gonna lie, I really don't like Vicki as a person. Sure, she was funny, but that's literally the only thing I like about her.), but I did. Just from this video alone, I can't stand Jen. Not only was she a HUGE bully, but she was so nasty, violent(Yes, I think threatening to get physical counts as being violent)and just plain exhausting when she didn't get her way. And that's not addressing her foul crimes, the elephant in the room. But now, that she's gone, I might take a look.
I dont think the story lines this season were as bad as some people make them out to be, but I think part of the problem with this season was the rushed production editing, and then the final nail in the coffin was ending it w heathers black eye story line …. Like what?! Also yes! Thank you for saying that about Angie H. I think she would have made the perfect love to hate her type unexpected villain on the show and I think producers didn’t utilize her enough. I’m genuinely sad she’s leaving
This season really was exhausting. On top of Jen proclaiming innocence any chance she gets, she kept throwing out these self harm things to get sympathy and to drop the subject. Heather and Meredith’s treatment of her was just so bizarre and the reunion was really a let down. The season shouldn’t get hate but it definitely wasn’t a great season. Great video!
Whitney is dealing with deep childhood stuff…like what? She’s never spelled it out or hinted at what it was? Was it physical, sexual? Mental abuse? Neglect? We have no idea. I’m not saying she needs to tell the viewership everything but if you’re making it your major (only) storyline, then it’s to your benefit to talk about it.
I'm not sure about bruises taking more than a day to appear, I've had my eye socket fractured and it started swelling and bruising within an hour. Took ages to go back to normal though. 🤕🧐😂❤
I would have LOVED to see the supposed confrontation between Jen/Meredith and Jennie, I think it would have been a bit satisfying to see someone tell her In her face her messy past.
I saw a theory on twitter that heathers black eye resulted from her falling and hitting her eye while her and Jen were doing c*ke which is why they can't give a clear answer. at this point this theory makes the most sense to me
The season was horrible. The Heather and Whitney drama is really annoying. I like them both but they can be annoying af. And Heather lying was just really lame. I wished there was a cast member that called her out at the reunion but everyone was tight lipped
my favorite thing about this video is how I don’t watch this show and I only just realized you’ve been saying “Angie K” because I always hear it as MGK and i’ve been hilariously picturing machine gun kelly.
Yes, Mer definitely hadn't been a good friend to Lisa, but was she one to Mer?? With everything Jen did to Meredith and her family Lisa never once supported her sister/best friend just so she could stay in Jen's good graces. I get why it all resulted in Lisa going on that tirade (not a hot mic.) bcs I was also getting tired by Mer, but we shouldn't pretend Lisa is faultless. In any case, for rhoslc to become enjoyable to watch again, the two need to somehow find the relationship they had before they started this show and start being honest with each other. It was better when they were friends, same with Bad Weather (even if I personally don't care for them)
I love both of the Angies, but I especially love Angie H even though she got a lot of crap from the fans I found her to be fun and friendly. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
I get this is reality tv and this is a cast of backstabbing co workers but… if you TRULY care about someone, you don’t leave them at their lowest. You don’t publicly denounce them when they’ve lost everything. Jen is no angel and has done deplorable things but people Villainizing Heather and Meredith seems ridiculous! You can support a person without supporting their actions 🤷🏾♀️ those who can’t need to grow up
I see your point. Although I do want to point out that a lot people are very much black and white with these things. In society, if you're guilty of doing anything terrible, then you're absolutely going to be disgraced and shunned(and so will anyone who tries to defend you), as it should be. Nobody likes a villain who does terrible things to innocent people.
how does someone else's weight affect you? ppl act like they care about health and well-being when 1. y'all don't really care and 2. you don't have to care. what happened to freedom and minding your own business.
Came back here after 7 months to give it another go to if this season will be successful, If Meredith was a bit cheeky and did not have the stoic or icy persona, she could've gotten away with her Vanderpumpian ways of medelling and stirring the pot in season 3, but I don't think she connects to the audiance in the same way Whitney's chaotic yet vulnerable and charming energy. But I love that for Meredith because I don't think there are that many housewives having as icy personas, or the ones that are similar are older in age in comparison to her and their castmates. I can excuse her not living in SLC full time and living in vacation rentals bc she is an interesting tv persona.
@@DeeplySuperfish I'm a Lisa Vanderpump fan. She's arguably my favorite Real Housewife of all time, but I can see her flaws as well, so you won't have to worry about me at least. 😅 What I would really love to see is a history of Lisa's friendship with Kyle. I think they had such a great friendship so their fallout was sad and painful for me to watch. 😢 I know there was Puppygate, but I'm not sure if that was the main reason why the friendship fell apart or if it was a series of little fights like how Bethenny and Jill fell out.
Heather knew jen did it and the way she lied and blamed production and was loving all the attention she was getting. Pathetic. I lost so much respect for her watching this. She knew it was jen snd is waiting for Jen to take responsibility but HELLO shebis lying about the fraud
I have a friend who has had a family member with a Xanax addiction and since season 1 they have said they think Meredith is on Xanax. Personally, I think it would make the black eye story interesting. I think Meredith gave Heather and Jen a Xanax that night; explaining how Heather was so drunk without drinking much, why she is being so coy about the whole thing because she not only doesn’t want to expose Meredith but herself, and why she wouldn’t remember anything. Not to mention, xanax has a tendency to make users angry and unlike themselves especially when mixed with alcohol. As a bonus theory I also believe they took it the night in Scottsdale too. Heather was so reactive to Whitney to the point where she was pushing her and it just didn’t make much sense to her character in my opinion.
Okay so I'm a Meredith stan. I understand her on a weird level. That being said she needs to do more and if she wants to punish Lisa do it actively. Heather pulled a Lea McSweeny this season and really overestimated her clout. I love all the friends. I disagree with you about Dana, I though she was the real grounded person on the show and she read as very real as opposed to the Angies. I really disliked whitney this season, more so than 1 and 2, she and heather hand waved their behaviour with Hillin Jouney and Mormon Guilt. I enjoyed Mary reigning Whitney in during the first 2 seasons. Lisa is Lisa-ing as she does so shes always entertaining. I'm excited for the next season but we need a stronger cast asap. Hoping we get a dissection of RHOP upon the end of the reunion.
What's problematic is Jenny Nguyen got axed from the show for her "racist tweets", which weren't racist btw, just non-Woke and pro-police, but Mary gets invited back despite her ACTUALLY RACIST STATEMENTS IN THE SHOW.
I’m team Meredith all day long. She my favorite on the show. Lisa is as fake as a 3 dollar bill and if y’all can’t see it. You must be blind or fake like her. Lisa and Whitney friendship is fake as well.
I like both and want them as friends again🤷🏻♀ Both of them were in the wrong. And definitely agree that that is nothing but an alliance bcs those two disliked each other in the first two seasons, unless they faked it all. Lisa was just sad she lost Mer (and Jen) so she had no choice but to turn to anyone she could. Many predicted that "friendship" would be over once she gets Meredith back and based on rumours they seem to have been totally right
@@javardstanley1521 Yes, I got it. She's mine too ....in season one and the first half of 2nd season. By that time I started to like Lisa more and more so now they are in a shared 1st spot for me. I actually wasn't a huge fan of Lisa in the first season apart from her friendship with Mer and some occasions where I found her funny - she seemed fake to me as well. In the second season however for me she came across rather genuine instead, a real person (albeit one very very extra, out of touch). I think she is the person she portrays herself as. The crying obviously seems fake af (not in season one when she cried for Mer and Seth) but I'm not sure the other women feel that way cause at least Meredith seems to be affected by it even in season two
I was JUST rewatching ur old videos very excited
Honestly SLC has this weird meta feeling to it. It’s like a housewife parody that takes itself serious and its sooo insane to watch uncanny valley style. As much as I liked heather and Meredith in the first 2 seasons they really did themselves in with their support for Jen and now heathers backtracking. Lisa is just good tv she delusional and I love it. I honestly really like Dana and Angie K. I think Angie has that desperation that honestly fits the unsettling vibes that comes with SLC. I just would like to see where that goes but if they end up leaving I’ll be okay.
I love that you used the term "unsettling" because I think that is the word that best describes this franchise....something about it is so off in a almost scary avant garde art deco film type of way lol. Like I wouldnt be surprised if at the final season of this franchise they all turn to the camera and laugh and say this was all a scripted social experiment or something lmao. It's just too weird but sooo entertaining
@@mirandapillsbury7885 dude I LITERALLY had a dream that happened when I was rebinging season 2 a couple months ago! It just doesn’t feel right yk? The Wendigo of housewife franchises
The way Heather and Whitney fell out makes me feel like they weren't as close as they were making it out the first two seasons. Like it still doesn't add up to me.
Naaa they were close. Whitney changed and Heather didn't. She started standing up for herself and asking to be seen and Heather just couldn't be bothered so she dumped her. I loved both in s1&2 so I'm not biased. But I think this was on Heather.
Feels like Whitney has drank the kool-aid.
can you do a deep dive in tre vs melissa?
omg i’d love to see this! i realised i’d completely forgotten about strippergate, so much has happened since.
I was just saying the same thing! I would love this!
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Yes!! I rewatched Jersey recently and I was always team gorga .. literally from season 3 up until somewhere during season 13. I actually started questioning things when Teresa and Melissa went on UGT bc Teresa speaking about how they got on the show behind her back and starting shit with her before then and honestly I always thought Teresa was just not smart enough to keep a lie straight .. but shes sang thing same tune for over a decade … now going back there is a lot of things Melissa and joe both have done then was like Teresa how could you?! I feel that there’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes and Melissa does her shit behind cameras whereas Teresa does it all for the world to see so she looks like she’s the bad guy with a hardon for Melissa … then the whole Gia thing. I don’t think she should be getting involved with that Shit period however joe and Melissa saying Gia called joe to say leave Melissa you can do better … in the middle of the feud coming back first off I do not think for a single second that even if Gia thought that, that she’d ever tell joe that. I don’t think she’d ever give them that ammo does that make sense? But her saying if Melissa doesn’t want to go to the wedding fine, leave her home and you come .. you and mom can do better for nonno and nonna seems more real. But to lie on your niece on national TV and even if she did say what joe and Melissa say she said .. to throw your niece/goddaughter under the bus like that is fucked up. I could go on and on from the beginning the christening - Melissa says giudice charged gorga … didn’t happen. Then season 5 again Melissa’s like joe giudice starts charging at joe and I … yes he came in hot yelling apologize! But it again was joe gorga who went after giudice. Let me make one thing very very clear I DO NOT THINK TERESA IS AN INNOCENT IN ANYYYYYYYY OF THIS. I do not think that at all. I do think however that the gorgas are not innocent at all! They really had me fooled. So I’d love to see a deep dive on them and see others opinions of that.
@@kristinxoxthe gorgas has always been the problem since their first episode. Girls trip was the real Teresa . She was more chill and relaxed because no one was coming for her with bullshit besides Melissa .
In the thumbnail it should have been “Eye believe you” 💀😂
I totally agree with you about watching the season in one sitting! My theory is that production filmed a lot with Jen expecting to get one more season out of her during her trial, but when she pleaded guilty they went back and cut a lot out so that the chapter on Jen was closed and the show could move on with the core 4 and the reason why the drama felt "stale" was due to production making due with what they had.
Completely agree! I just binged all 3 seasons in under 2 weeks, having never watched the show before.
11:32 your addition of Lisa Rinna's "arrest" comment is why you're the best channel for Real Housewives on TH-cam. XOXO ;)
Heather is bizarre to me. She can’t be bothered to care about her best friends abuse but constantly sticks up for Jenn a person who’s even punched her in the face. Jen has probably blackmailed them both.
That’s what I think. Who was it (Machiavelli I think) said fear inspires far more loyalty than love.
I'm dying for you to make a video about season 4 and the finale!
I seen alot of ppl hated Whitney and I loved her this season. She did great tbh and kinda carried the season with her and heathers friendship faltering. She was vulnerable about her family’s issues, her trauma, and she was still able to have good moments such as partying and being in the drama. She was great. I’m team Lisa Barlow. I couldn’t even get through the second season reunion cuz they all were on Lisa’s behind and it was annoying seeing them bully and team up on her. I think this season could’ve been better but wasn’t a great season.
Same I was team Whitney and Lisa all season
I disagree about Danna, I really appreciated that she was seemingly the only person who was actually willing to bring up Jen’s crimes to her face, but I do agree that she wasn’t a good fit for the cast
She felt like viewers voice to me like she was just as lost by Jen’s behavior and everyone’s reaction to her and her crimes as everyone watching idk i lived for her
Already can’t wait for your season 4 video!! The SLC girl really stepped up their game and gave us one of the best seasons EVER imo
Litney is hands down my favourite thing to come out of the season, and I think Angie K did a very good job endearing herself to the ladies and the audience (in small doses)
Whitney had an epiphany of Lisa during therapy…
They really do count Lisa Barlows before bed 😂
It really feels like Heather decided to just give 2 testimonials giving opposite points of view of every topic and let production pick whichever one they wanted to use. The problem is when the ladies questioned her she didn’t remember or know what she was supposed to say.
Great video as always. I have a few comments of my own on the season:
-We seem to be in a strange phase of Housewives where the cast is mainly superfans of Housewives and Bravo and it's the lunatics running the asylum. In general principle I miss the drama being organic, not SO staged and thirsty
-WeAther have both become insufferable, even if they're personally on the outs. Both are starved for fame and Whitney's baby voice is really becoming maddening
-Lisa is a monster and Meredith has become really insulting and condescending
-If there's a third Angie next season that might be a dealbreaker. Who knew Utah was fully of so many thirsty Angies desperate to be on Bravo?
-As for Jen, in addition to jail time, the best punishment for her is obscurity. It's time to leave her behind and move on to bigger, better, and brighter things.
Oh, boy. You better believe that I love overanalyzing Housewifes, so, now that the season is over, let me do my over-the-top innecessary essay about RHOSLC3.
*Introduction*
First of all, I think we all agree that this has been a bizarre season, probably the most undercooked that RHOSLC has served to us until now. The reasons why I guess it has happened are:
*Problems:*
1. The cast was too small: with such a reduced number of housewifes, creating drama was something difficult for a show that relies on it. I mean, if there are only four people in the room and you are meant to fight against someone or get fired, there aren't many options... The lacking number of ladies, also made the alliances shift in weird unexpected ways that, although intriguing, felt chaotic. They five had to travel and do stuff together and, at the same time, fight eachother, so I found myself a couple of times thinking... What the hell is going on? How could they fight and reunite fight and reunite ad aeternum?
2. There wasn't much going on: well, to be honest, the ladies don't necessarily have to fight eachother. If their lifes had been interesting enough, they would have had something to show us. But, unfortunately, there wasn't much... Besides Whitney's recovery (about a traume never specified) and Heather's book (remember: she launched a party for the cover), the five main cast didn't have any endearing personal storyline.
3. Jen was problematic af: Jen's trial tipping point polarized the group. When the cast was larger, Jen's legal problems appeared in a more subtled way, like one of the rest of the storylines, and the ladies had more room to tip-toe around it. But it coming to an end, made them pick a side, and oh boy, it was so uncomfortable watch it unfold...
*The ladies:*
1. Lisa: I would say her character has been revitalized the most and that she seems to be the great winner of the season, landing floor with her four legs in most of the situations. Lisa seems to be the type of girl you hate in high school (she's rich, pretty, popular and gets whatever she wants) and that's why I think so many people hate her and was vandalized during second season. However, her hot mic rant and her showdown with Meredith showed another face of her, more humble, and I think she was in the rght side of her story during her apoplogy parade, that lasted for episodes. Besides, some of the most hilarious moments of the season are hers: singing 'Away in manger', impersonating Meredith's "Don't go there", "At least I don't go popping pills... BITCH". All of them are so unintentional... I guess that the Lisa herself doesn't realize how hysterical she is.
2. Meredith: Oooooof. My favourite housewife of SLC really made me go through a path of thorns this years. I understand she has all the right tobe pissed with Lisa after her mic moment (please Bravo, keep playing it once per episode), but, for me, Lisa was on the right. She appologized many times and, while it was Meredith's prerogative to forgive her or not, instead of giving a clear answer, Meredith dragged the topic the whole season. Not only that, she reacted by putting nasty rumors in circulation. All of that, it didn't serve any other purpose than reviving Lisa's character. Anyway, I love Meredith because she's more mature, intelligent, articulated and well-spoken than the rest of the ladies, but this season I've felt her a bit out of her game. LVP's machinations don't suit her well. (Side note: am I the only one having a crush o Seth?)
3. Whitney: Oh boy, this season really lether chaotic, deranged, wild energy run. I've never been a fan, because I have problems figuring out who she really is: is she a pot stirrer, a batton passer for other's second hand dramas, a "little girl" who doesn't stand out that much? Until now she has never seemed to commit to a single role, but this season she said "why choose? Let be everything everywhere all at once" and the proceed to create havoc in every room she entered. I don't know, I felt her a little bit all over the place and didn't commit to any of her antics.
4. Heather: for me it's still a yes. She brings much of the weird sarcastic energy, a la Khloe Kardashian, but I still get why some viewers turned her back. The whole black eye drama was poorly handed and her position during Jen's trial was painful to see. In any case, I can mildly excuse her: first, I get that she didn't want to add insult to the injury by throwing Jen under the bus regarding her eye; second, the situation of Jen was difficult to handle. It would have been much more easier to send her to the curb, but, after years of filming with someone, I get she may have developed some sense of respectability towards, not only her, but her family, and probably didn't want to make them suffer more by treating their mother as a liability.
5. Jen: the mess that we don't need any longer. One would expect that, after the whole FBI and trial happening, Jen would take her attitude a notch down. Well, let me tell you that it dindn't happen at all. She has been so abrassive and agressive as always. A dog of all barks and no bites, in my opinion. Watching her acting all tough knowing how everything was going to end for her really put her character one step aside: the emperor was naked. She was nothing but biter, throwing wine to Angy, lauching her shoes off board, taking receipts to harm the others... She hitted the fan and none of her antics really ment nothing. Not any longer. Not today, Satan. We don't want it.
6. The friends. With such an small ensemble, you can get why Bravo decided to throw not one but three new friends to the mix, just hopping one of them will stick to the wall. One of the things I like is that the cast at least seemed diverse and portrayed different versions of what being a Housewife means: we have the chaotic pot stirrer Angie H (in line with Lisa and Whitney); the more mature and articulated Danna (Meredith) and the in your face attitude Angie K (Jen). I am lost about which ones will be picked for a comeback and which not. All of them have reasons to return but, at the same time, I feel that none of them made such a big splash. Anyway, the show has such a low number of housewiifes, that I wouldn't be surprised if we get an overall approved and all them three come back net season. After all, we need new sap in the franchise.
*Conclusions*
Well, as you can imagine, my opionion regarding the third installment of RHOSLC is not the best. The season felt limited, orthopedic and continually folding over herself, bringing once and again old feudsand creating forced situations and alliances out of nowhere because there weren't any other ladies. Jen's legal problems should have been the main storyline (as Erika's were in RHOBV season 11),and instead of that we get a room full with four beheaded chickens screaming and feunding (and only, ocasionally, delighting us with an 'Away in manger' recital). Hopefully, the producers will realize that the current formula is exhausted, will let the ladies rest for some months, and come back with some new cast members and better storylines.
This needs more attention!
@@Whothefuckisgrey XD. Thanks!
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You got everything spot on, even productions weird antics this season. Rumour mill says production set the black eye stuff up, told HG that they had video footage which they never showed her, hence why she was saying ‘they know who they are’. Jen 1000% has stuff on Meredith flashback to the reddit fish rumours of last years reunion. Personally Ive enjoyed all 3 FOHs and would like to see them all get a shot at a ❄️ as they each bring something different. Angie K had more loyalty to Lisa then Jen and Meredith and Angie H are friends off show. Wish they had shown Danas fight with Jen as she is a wildcard to watch if she comes back and would love to see an interaction between her and Ms Cosby. Finally Mary needs to come back FT as now Jen has gone the light will be fully on her and this could either work in her favour or be her downfall (the tone deaf remarks 2.0) love love love ( in my Teresa voice) your channel. Please can you do a deep dive on RHOA the later years would love to see your view point on Nenes later seasons and bolo gate. RHOP and Miami please! 🧿
I don't think Mary will come back in order to protect her religious cult. Can't stand the creep but she was smart to leave as the heat was being turned up.
She would have seen how dangerous it could have been to stay on the show, particularly as the whole JS arrest go down.
@@astridholland6675she was already confirmed months ago to come back for season 4
Please do a season cast wishlist for each franchise … that would be fun to watch
Watching this at work! So excited for SLC video!
watching this NOW 2024 MONICA BEING THE INFORMANT
i only watched the season one time week to week, but i had a completely different read of heather. she comes off very phony to me, and one of the biggest culprits of playing the "game" of housewives. i fully believe that her & angie were saying those things about lisa at the basketball game, and when whitney brought it up on camera heather was not cool with that and lied her ass off to protect herself and angie. who really knows tbh but idk that was just my read of the situation. whitney seemed very believable and taken aback when heather denied it lol
A Meredith Marks/Mary Cosby deep dive would be great before season 4 now that we know Mary is returning
Love the deep dive as always. I agree that there was something tonally different about S3 after such strong opening seasons but cast changes and the undertone of Jen Shah's legal woes (Sutton voice) made it feel quite heavy. I think the season could have been lifted had they injected some new blood as a welcome distraction but it felt like they wanted to centre the season around Jen's drama and just keep it to the core cast we've grown to know and love. The addition of friends helped as I was craving something more, especially with such clear divides in camp.
Whitney Rose - I've always been a bit on the fence with Whitney, I sometimes feel that she uses her spirituality and need to 'cleanse' as a vehicle to force drama and essentially stir the pot. I think the way her abuse trauma had resurfaced from therapy seemed quite extraordinary and it was weird how it was handled by the rest of the cast, I don't know if I was expecting to see more given how many therapy sessions we saw Dorit in but once it was dismissed by Heather it felt like the story subsided. I do prefer Bad Weather together, however, in having this divide from Heather, I feel like Whitney has had to find her own voice and therefore strayed from stirring the pot to taking a more active role. The dissension of Bad Weather feels like one of the things that made the series feel a little less joyful, especially as it seemed both Whitney and Heather played the card of wanting to go back to the way things were but having these conditions on the other for it to get there and ultimately not going anywhere.
Lisa Barlow - In the first season, I could not stand Lisa but I've really grown to like her and consider her a staple of the franchise, her awkward delivery of things, her need to brag and show off and her general lack of self-awareness (at times) is so endearing. I think coming in on the back foot also helped me warm to her as she was very much sat on the naughty step, which meant she couldn't always play the holier than thou card. I think the rumours seemed wild and baseless and while it caused a lot of drama, she did handle it well by stepping aside and letting it become more about Whitney and Heather trying to line up their stories rather than entertain the idea. I think Lisa gets a lot of flack thrown at her because she puts herself on a pedestal but she seems to handle herself well. I think she just needs to admit the fact that what she said in the hot mic moment wasn't a set of random adjectives strung together. I get that she was hurt but she's clearly had these underline tensions that have caused her to think these things or at least heard some of the things second-hand.
Meredith Marks - I would describe Meredith as an alpha in the pack but I also feel like I couldn't lose her from the show. Meredith has this contradicting vibe of "I DGAF" while very much revelling in whatever it is that's being said that may involve her. I also quite like that sometimes she will just disengage from an argument rather than milk it for camera time. I think of all the cast, Meredith has always been the most self-edited but I like the fact that she uses her passiveness to plant seeds rather than become a bit-part player. It did feel like a quieter season, I'm hoping without Jen that her and Heather can get a bit of a release, although they did very much put themselves in that situation.
Heather Gay - I know you said she's despised now, but for me, Heather is the face of RHOSLC. I think the issue is, as you said, she was the narrator and the fun girl in the first two seasons and then it felt like she woke up in S3 and chose chaos. I get that the book may have triggered some things for her, but I also feel that Housewives have used this as an excuse for their behaviour previously. I found what you said about Whitney and Heather becoming emotionally incompatible to be sadly true, I think Heather's always had this insecurity that had made the viewer identify with her and this season it felt like she stopped being the girl you rooted for and instead was the one you wanted to shake. I think her inability to give an answer about the black eye and her creating this dynamic of keeping Whitney begging for her friendship just made it feel like she was milking moments. I don't dislike her, I think she out of everyone was marred by Jen's presence and part of me feels like she wanted to stay loyal to her because despite what Jen was going through, she wanted her to remember that she had stuck by her - which is why she still refuses to say anything against her. I'm hoping the lows of this season will encourage her to have a better S4.
Jen Shah - I think it was such a bizarre season, I don't think anything could touch the drama of the police turning up in S2. It's odd to see how Jen handled discussions of her case in comparison to what was happening in Beverly Hills. While Erika seemed to have people talking behind her back that would result in a confrontation over dinner, it didn't feel like Jen caught that same heat. I think it's difficult because she does have a family so saying things to hurt her can only hurt them. I think Jen had been a massive part of the show, although I think that without her, there'll hopefully be a little bit of breathing space to have fun without people looking to each other to make sure they hadn't upset her.
Angie Hamilton - The finsta storyline is still so bewildering to me, but I actually wouldn't mind to see more of Angie. Could it be a case that she's a Marlo and makes a better friend than housewife? Possibly. I think that Angie and Chris have an interesting homelife, the wealth and the pettiness to deserve a trial run in the very least. I also think that the remaining core four need more than just their allies, otherwise we're heading into RHONJ territory.
Angie Katsanevas - Again, I'm happy to give her a trial snowflake. Angie felt like she came in ready to fight for a spot on the show and even in the reunion, she made sure to have her voice heard. I was confused by her flip-flopping between Lisa and Jen, but part of me feels like she was trying to drive the narrative. I think there were moments where Angie was doing more than perhaps some of the core cast. Despite this, it doesn't feel manufactured in the sense that there's no drama there, more that Angie is making sure she's got a place at the table for it. I don't know, maybe I just love a Greek Goddess themed dinner party.
Danna Bui-Negrete - I really wanted to warm to Danna. At times it felt like she was the only one calling out Jen, but by this point the conversation had been had so many times over two seasons, it just didn't catch the same heat. I do feel like producers did her dirty but cutting out her row but then at the same time, it always felt like it wasn't natural for Danna to fight with the rest of the cast. It felt like she had to 'learn the ways' of being on the show, being told what the dynamic was whereas both Angie K and H came in throwing gas onto the fire. I also felt like she came into the reunion really trying to stand her ground and the rest of the cast did not seem in her favour. I can see her making guest appearances but I don't know if she'll be friend level, let alone full cast.
Overall, I think the season was okay. I always find smaller cast seasons more stifling, which is why RHOC in recent years has been a bit more of a struggle. I would've preferred production to try and address this but given the quick set-up for S3, it seemed like there potentially wasn't the time. I think S4 will naturally be a big shift and I'm hoping it's onwards and upwards - especially with Mary Cosby is a friend role as this feels a lot more natural for her.
Can't wait for the next video!
You mentioned Bad Weather but not Meredith and Lisa; do you not want the two to reconcile? Both of these duos were the main ones in the first two seasons
You literally just saved my mental health with the posting of this video 👏🏼 bless
here during the airing of season 4 reunion just to say Monica did in fact save a struggling franchise
Excellent take on the emotional compatibility between Heather and Whitney 👏I’m also more of a Whitney and had to learn not everyone can/wants to go there emotionally. I appreciated your deep dive 💯
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I am so impressed by this assessment of RHOSLC S3. I love that you can shed light on the emotional aspects of everyone for major moments in the show. Being held emotionally captive is perfect. I haven't heard anyone spell out the pack leader aspect of Jen and how that came to be given the behavior we see her display.
It's nice to see a video where someone is able to look at friend fights from both sides.
Wow, thank you so much for your sweet words!! 🥰🥰
I love each and one of your videos! Thank you for the breakdown of this season seeing as how my boyfriend and I had trouble even enjoying it.
Well detailed explanation and informative video on the off and on screen Drama happening between the cast members from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City what’s so confusing is to why Heather and Meredith are still supporting Jen even after she admitted to committing Fraud
They need Mary back for that comic relief every housewives show has 1 Shannon,Sonja, Sutton,Jenifer Aiden, Chanel ayan, all the ATL & Potomac girls are funny to be honest this 1 doesn’t have that any more & with the heavy topics & intense drama it’s desperately needed & Mary brought that in spades!! We need her cookyness back asap!
Mary was funny but she was delusional asf
“Buutttt I don’t know let’s just move on” that had me laughing so hard just wanted to say I like your channel it’s fun content
Heather is a wanna be and the way she kissed Jen ass was disgusting. I never understood the Heather hype .!
Watching this a year later is so mind blowing, in true SLC fashion nothing is the same but also EVERYTHING is the same
I love your videos! You express your options clearly and intelligently. I also love that you have covered some Australian HW shows. Thank you!
Thank you so much!! 💖💖💖
I liked Season 3 but they need a change. As for Whitney, I really cannot stand her, every time she brings something up about someone, she expects someone else to have her back on it all the time even if they don't know it to be true, she was the true gaslighter of Season 2, the gaslighter for Season 3 was Heather. I LOVED Heather but this season not so much. Honestly I think Heather needs a little break and comeback stronger. Meredith also kinda turned me off this year she really went from anti-Jen to anti-Lisa which I get but she cannot bring up the same thing over and over again. Honestly Jen (oddly enough & still don't condone what she did nor her behavior) and Lisa were the only entertaining HW's this season. I personally don't want Whitney back, I think Heather should take a break (for a season) and maybe leave Danna off next season (I Like her but she wasn't that entertaining to me, outside of standing up to Jen). Bring back Meredith, Lisa, Angie K & Angie H full time, 2 new full time and bring back queen Mary Cosby as a friend (which I think is happening)
I could not wait for a new video and it’s about SLC which I live for! YAS 👏🏼
This is so good! Can you do a deep dive on the latest season of Potomac please? I’d love to hear your take on the Robyn drama.
Team Lisa Barlow, Meredith’s misplaced anger due to the loss of her father was exhausting to witness. Lisa’ couldn’t forever keep assuring so had a meltdown, understandable.
Lisa is a shitty friend and a liar. I’d never trust anyone again who blasted me on national television.
I agree 100%! Team Lisa! Meredith and Heather act like they had personality transplants.
But she was literally mad at lisa because of her hot mic moment lol
@@Markane62 Yes but Lisa had a hot mic moment because Meredith treated Lisa like crap all season by buddying up with Mary because Meredith was mad at Lisa for being friends with Jen. Such a circle! 😂
@@tonyaa8738 she didn’t treat lisa like crap tbh, she was just more reserved around lisa and that hot mic moment was so rehearsed. I was shocked that she did that to a real friend outside the show for that lil moment
I was waiting for this analysis!! I hope you do Potomac too.
I will!!
honestly, whitney's been super annoying this season with her "hilling" journey. lisa's the only thing about whitney that makes her palatable. heather's eye situation was super annoying.
Once again, you are doing gods work. Your videos are the best!
I still love this season lol
My life is so blessed when u post mom
Great in-depth video!! 👏👏👏👏
I think that there is a whole other layer to the Whitney/Heather breakup that wasn't shown but probably had everything to do with the show. I think they BOTH felt deeply betrayed by the other for different reasons, but Whitney was more successful arguing why she felt betrayed while Heather left us hanging.
This was great to watch , thank you so much 😊
YOUR PAGE IS SO AMAZING
Rewatching the SLC season 3 i couldn’t let unnoticed that when Meredith picks a bone she’s gonna exhaust you and then not let it go
It was a rough blizzard in SLC, but I made it through… in terms of the show. Irl, I’d rather not deal with the snow anymore. 😂
Great video 👏🏼👏🏼
I’ll always be die hard team Lisa Barlow and team Meredith. My experience this season was actually seeing a side of Heather I enjoyed more than ever in the first half of the season but the black eye fiasco completely jeopardised my growing Heather fondness. I had always liked Whitney but didn’t like her and heather’s unwavering view of Lisa being this insane villain in season 2. In season 3, to me Whitney actually became more frustrating to me. I can rarely follow her viewpoint in disagreements with the other castmates and a lot of it feels put on. But I hope we get more of the friends of this season (Or at least Dana). I feel like all of them if they have more time to cook in the group possibly with more newcomers and Mary it would be a really interesting dynamic. I think a Miami cast vibe with the cast for season 4 would be a really engaging shake up with lots of interesting cast dynamics.
Mary's absence made the season boring
You need to pitch a real housewives major to Hampshire college every month you hit us with a new thesis!!
Hahahah omg my dreammmm 💖👩🏼🏫
So perceptive! Particularly in Heather Vs Whitney stuff. Good job.
I haven't watched The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and I'm honestly not sure if I want to watch it. This installment seems to be too dark in my opinion, especially with the Norman Church and with Jen. I honestly didn't think I would find a housewife more frustrating than the OG of the OC Vicki Gunvalson(I'm not gonna lie, I really don't like Vicki as a person. Sure, she was funny, but that's literally the only thing I like about her.), but I did. Just from this video alone, I can't stand Jen. Not only was she a HUGE bully, but she was so nasty, violent(Yes, I think threatening to get physical counts as being violent)and just plain exhausting when she didn't get her way. And that's not addressing her foul crimes, the elephant in the room. But now, that she's gone, I might take a look.
Given the finale of season 4 I think we need a redux
I dont think the story lines this season were as bad as some people make them out to be, but I think part of the problem with this season was the rushed production editing, and then the final nail in the coffin was ending it w heathers black eye story line …. Like what?!
Also yes! Thank you for saying that about Angie H. I think she would have made the perfect love to hate her type unexpected villain on the show and I think producers didn’t utilize her enough. I’m genuinely sad she’s leaving
This season really was exhausting. On top of Jen proclaiming innocence any chance she gets, she kept throwing out these self harm things to get sympathy and to drop the subject. Heather and Meredith’s treatment of her was just so bizarre and the reunion was really a let down. The season shouldn’t get hate but it definitely wasn’t a great season. Great video!
I love your deep dive. However i want to disagree about heather.
21:39 she talks about it on Chris Klemmens podcast
Any idiot that says a bruise doesn’t form overnight, has obviously never been in a fight 🙄🙄🙄 100% a bruise will form overnight.
not even just never been in a fight - never bumped into anything that creates intense bruises quickly…i work retail and get fresh bruises every week 😂
Right!? I've had brusing form straight after an accident
@@astridholland6675Exactly, it happens immediately.
Whitney is dealing with deep childhood stuff…like what? She’s never spelled it out or hinted at what it was? Was it physical, sexual? Mental abuse? Neglect? We have no idea. I’m not saying she needs to tell the viewership everything but if you’re making it your major (only) storyline, then it’s to your benefit to talk about it.
I mean she’ll probably talk more about it when she’s gone through more therapy.
I'm not sure about bruises taking more than a day to appear, I've had my eye socket fractured and it started swelling and bruising within an hour. Took ages to go back to normal though. 🤕🧐😂❤
I couldn't deal with them letting Jenn Shaw use the show and a promotion of her "innocence" and no one challenging her. Too gross.
Love the videos! Can you pleassssseeee do a deep dive into Mary
lets talk about the arrest!! haha so good, great video
ur voice is so soothing
Jen either attacked her or Heather fell into a sink after doing blow. defo drug related anyways which is why its so hush hush.
I would have LOVED to see the supposed confrontation between Jen/Meredith and Jennie, I think it would have been a bit satisfying to see someone tell her In her face her messy past.
I saw a theory on twitter that heathers black eye resulted from her falling and hitting her eye while her and Jen were doing c*ke which is why they can't give a clear answer. at this point this theory makes the most sense to me
The season was horrible. The Heather and Whitney drama is really annoying. I like them both but they can be annoying af. And Heather lying was just really lame. I wished there was a cast member that called her out at the reunion but everyone was tight lipped
Can u do a video for RHOP after the reunion pleaseee 😩
Love your vids always enjoy hearing your opinions
I appreciate that! 💖💖
Another excellent video. Bring Mary M Cosby back 👌🏾
Thank youuuu!
they could have at least taken them to Puerto Rico or Hawaii...exotic places but still within the United States.
I know right!
my favorite thing about this video is how I don’t watch this show and I only just realized you’ve been saying “Angie K” because I always hear it as MGK and i’ve been hilariously picturing machine gun kelly.
Tamera Judge from RHOC said Heather Gay’s black eye came from a beauty lab & laser treatment
this season was so much Sturm und Drang for nothing...great video though, DS. please a deep Melbourne dive? 💋
Honestly, Lisa was a friend to Merideth. Merideth was never a friend to Lisa. If I was Lisa I would have gone full enemy on her.
Yes, Mer definitely hadn't been a good friend to Lisa, but was she one to Mer?? With everything Jen did to Meredith and her family Lisa never once supported her sister/best friend just so she could stay in Jen's good graces. I get why it all resulted in Lisa going on that tirade (not a hot mic.) bcs I was also getting tired by Mer, but we shouldn't pretend Lisa is faultless. In any case, for rhoslc to become enjoyable to watch again, the two need to somehow find the relationship they had before they started this show and start being honest with each other. It was better when they were friends, same with Bad Weather (even if I personally don't care for them)
I love both of the Angies, but I especially love Angie H even though she got a lot of crap from the fans I found her to be fun and friendly.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
I get this is reality tv and this is a cast of backstabbing co workers but… if you TRULY care about someone, you don’t leave them at their lowest. You don’t publicly denounce them when they’ve lost everything. Jen is no angel and has done deplorable things but people Villainizing Heather and Meredith seems ridiculous! You can support a person without supporting their actions 🤷🏾♀️ those who can’t need to grow up
I see your point. Although I do want to point out that a lot people are very much black and white with these things. In society, if you're guilty of doing anything terrible, then you're absolutely going to be disgraced and shunned(and so will anyone who tries to defend you), as it should be. Nobody likes a villain who does terrible things to innocent people.
how does someone else's weight affect you? ppl act like they care about health and well-being when 1. y'all don't really care and 2. you don't have to care. what happened to freedom and minding your own business.
YES YES YES THANK GOOOD
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Came back here after 7 months to give it another go to if this season will be successful, If Meredith was a bit cheeky and did not have the stoic or icy persona, she could've gotten away with her Vanderpumpian ways of medelling and stirring the pot in season 3, but I don't think she connects to the audiance in the same way Whitney's chaotic yet vulnerable and charming energy. But I love that for Meredith because I don't think there are that many housewives having as icy personas, or the ones that are similar are older in age in comparison to her and their castmates. I can excuse her not living in SLC full time and living in vacation rentals bc she is an interesting tv persona.
Can we get a deep dive into Lisa Vanderpump?
I want to sooo badly and have been slowly working on it, but her fans are a bit intense so I’ve gotta emotionally prepare myself, haha.
@@DeeplySuperfish I'm a Lisa Vanderpump fan. She's arguably my favorite Real Housewife of all time, but I can see her flaws as well, so you won't have to worry about me at least. 😅 What I would really love to see is a history of Lisa's friendship with Kyle. I think they had such a great friendship so their fallout was sad and painful for me to watch. 😢 I know there was Puppygate, but I'm not sure if that was the main reason why the friendship fell apart or if it was a series of little fights like how Bethenny and Jill fell out.
Whitney has a huge problem of misinterpreting jokes and comments
Heather knew jen did it and the way she lied and blamed production and was loving all the attention she was getting. Pathetic. I lost so much respect for her watching this. She knew it was jen snd is waiting for Jen to take responsibility but HELLO shebis lying about the fraud
I have a friend who has had a family member with a Xanax addiction and since season 1 they have said they think Meredith is on Xanax. Personally, I think it would make the black eye story interesting. I think Meredith gave Heather and Jen a Xanax that night; explaining how Heather was so drunk without drinking much, why she is being so coy about the whole thing because she not only doesn’t want to expose Meredith but herself, and why she wouldn’t remember anything. Not to mention, xanax has a tendency to make users angry and unlike themselves especially when mixed with alcohol. As a bonus theory I also believe they took it the night in Scottsdale too. Heather was so reactive to Whitney to the point where she was pushing her and it just didn’t make much sense to her character in my opinion.
10:54 hold space?!?!?
Jen shan is THE PERFECT housewife. It's a shame she turned out to be a criminal...she was perfect for this franchise
14:20 lolololol
Okay so I'm a Meredith stan. I understand her on a weird level. That being said she needs to do more and if she wants to punish Lisa do it actively. Heather pulled a Lea McSweeny this season and really overestimated her clout. I love all the friends. I disagree with you about Dana, I though she was the real grounded person on the show and she read as very real as opposed to the Angies. I really disliked whitney this season, more so than 1 and 2, she and heather hand waved their behaviour with Hillin Jouney and Mormon Guilt. I enjoyed Mary reigning Whitney in during the first 2 seasons. Lisa is Lisa-ing as she does so shes always entertaining.
I'm excited for the next season but we need a stronger cast asap.
Hoping we get a dissection of RHOP upon the end of the reunion.
Idk understand how people hate Jen but praise the other woman for vile behavior??
Can somebody tell me what specific abuse Whitney endured? That and the black eye…
heather did thr thing celebs do & got the black eye
What's problematic is Jenny Nguyen got axed from the show for her "racist tweets", which weren't racist btw, just non-Woke and pro-police, but Mary gets invited back despite her ACTUALLY RACIST STATEMENTS IN THE SHOW.
Nobody likes Jenny and Nobody likes You
I love lisa but how can people say Meredith is wrong i wouldve hated lisa 2
I’m team Meredith all day long. She my favorite on the show. Lisa is as fake as a 3 dollar bill and if y’all can’t see it. You must be blind or fake like her. Lisa and Whitney friendship is fake as well.
I like both and want them as friends again🤷🏻♀ Both of them were in the wrong. And definitely agree that that is nothing but an alliance bcs those two disliked each other in the first two seasons, unless they faked it all. Lisa was just sad she lost Mer (and Jen) so she had no choice but to turn to anyone she could. Many predicted that "friendship" would be over once she gets Meredith back and based on rumours they seem to have been totally right
@@Teaspooncat I’m always team Meredith. She my favorite on the show.
@@javardstanley1521 Yes, I got it. She's mine too ....in season one and the first half of 2nd season. By that time I started to like Lisa more and more so now they are in a shared 1st spot for me. I actually wasn't a huge fan of Lisa in the first season apart from her friendship with Mer and some occasions where I found her funny - she seemed fake to me as well. In the second season however for me she came across rather genuine instead, a real person (albeit one very very extra, out of touch). I think she is the person she portrays herself as. The crying obviously seems fake af (not in season one when she cried for Mer and Seth) but I'm not sure the other women feel that way cause at least Meredith seems to be affected by it even in season two
@@Teaspooncat Lisa still seems fake to me.
Lol you’re equating the vile things Lisa said to what Meredith did?