@@miisherhe was very forgiving but mostly his input consisted of surface level things like, “the acting was good” or “I liked the cinematography”, so it’s not too big of a loss. He’s working on his own “projects”, maybe some film industry work?
The sequence in St. Pete with the sounds of the wetlands at night was incredible. Lives in that area most of my life and don’t know of movies that make use of that kind of sound. Really nice touch for me.
Michael Fassbender is interesting, because I think he's a great actor, and he SHOULD be more recognized in the mainstream. He played a lot of roles in pretty bad or bland movies, but on the other hand, he played some really iconic roles. I particularly love the Frank (2014) movie, where he's not seen until like the last 10 minutes of the movie, yet his singing actually made me really emotional and cry and his role was a really good twist on the "he's good, because he's damaged" trope. His Magneto in the X men First class, was actually what sold the movie to me, despite all the goofyness.
Should be more recognized in the mainstream? What the fuck are you talking about? Fassbender was one of the most famous and acclaimed actors in the world in the early to mid 2010s. What a preposterously stupid thing to say.
The Killer was American Psycho meets Bourne Identity, and I can’t say that doesn’t hit my buttons, even if it didn’t hit its full potential. One of those rare ones that would actually benefit from being a good bit longer.
I absolutely loved watching the Killer purely for the aesthetics and the vibes. I fully understand that’s not enough for most people, I’m not going to argue the narrative was amazing. But I found it fascinating watching Fincher elevate a pretty mediocre script into something so cinematic and stylish. The film had great cinematography and editing throughout and Fassbender is just captivating to watch.
Felt the same way about "The Killer" as Adum. The last line of the film made it even worse. Glad he did, since he gave a lot of my favorites this year 6/10's. I'm not a big fan of biopics, but to me "Capote" is a special addition. Rather than trying to tell one man's entire life story in a couple hours, it devotes it's time to a significant event from that person's life, that manages to encapsulate everything Truman Capote represented as far as his personality and contributions to literature.
Random thought: I liked that the KILLER would legitimately look scared or worried when things wouldn't go as planned. Dude was gonna cry when he hid behind the counter in that Florida scene. I really did appreciate that.
This is so weird. I watched Capote last month, and I could have sworn Adam had recommended it many years ago. Also lol at how now I'm gonna watch In Cold Blood after Capote. And I agree with Alex, I found it hard to really feel the same way as Truman with his attachment to Perry. Felt like that was a big missing piece to believing the story.
i can understand how adam feels about Killer. Some people act like subtext is all you need to create a fantastic movie when in reality there’s a lot more to film than just that
THE KILLER rules. Not sure what they on. Great, great film! EDIT: So funny how Adum knocks The Killer for being derivative of DRIVE and AMEROCAN PSYCHO. But like, both of those movies are extremely derivative of 1960s and 70s movies. Like blatantly so. All movies are derivative. The Killer differentiated itself thru Fincher’s impeccable craft and the sly humor at the core of all of his movies. Fassbender’s a face alone is just hilarious at points. Like when he realizes the dog is coming. So funny.
That was so weird to have both Captoe movies come out within a year: Infamous and Captoe. I wonder what the producers (Warner Bros. & Sony) were thinking? It was like when Wyatt Earp and Tombstone came out the same year. Or when Armageddon and Deep Impact came out the same year too.
I can see why Adam dislikes how ambiguous the killer’s true intentions were and his score is consistent with his opinions. I personally didn’t mind the ambiguity and the straight forward plot can even be a dig at the typical action movie revenge fantasy formula. I personally would give it a 6 for being above average, but these digs and subversions like Adam said have been done before with more compelling execution
The read of The Killer being Fincher at his most self-reflexive is really dumb. All of his films are in some way - in a way that applies to society in general, not just how he directs his films. Obsession, power-struggle, control or lack there of - all of these things have already persisted in his filmography. People tend to use "self-reflexive" reads when they get nothing else from their viewing and instead they create this perfect symbolism in their head. Like sure, Fincher is aware of the similarities with the filmmaking process - just like the screenwriter, the DP and the crew are, judging by the interviews. Doesn't make it the centerpiece of the thematic background of the film. Saying "the director reflects on his own work here" is doing a disservice to what the film actually wants to say - because when people approach you with the argument that the film is empty and has nothing to say, saying it's about the director isn't that compelling an answer and it doesn't go anywhere. There are things to the film that only really reveal themselves on the consecutive viewings and when discussing the film, digging in the details - because you inevitably focus on the plot and technicalities the first time. But leaving the first viewing thinking "it's empty and has nothing to say" with no intention of going back and rewatching parts or discussing the film, when the film clearly has things to say and nudges you throughout to grab onto these things - is just ignorant. Still don't agree with Adam on the film, but at least I get his perspective more now. I highly suggest people who ended up disliking the film to give it another go while paying attention to the protagonist's mantra and how it relates to his targets, empathy and his psyche in general as well as the very intentional subtleties in Fasbender performance that lead on certain reads about the film.
Can someone explain Adums taste in games, like does he not like big action setpieces and over the top stylish games, I saw his reaction to hi fi rush as well, Not to say his points on spiderman 2 aren’t valid, frankly I agree with the dialogue/ story points but most of it just feels like its not his type of game and he is trying to project that.
He seems to like big set pieces in games when they have a lot of depth and weight to them, like with the newer God of Wars and some of the Uncharteds (I know he really doesn’t like 4, but I think he enjoys the first 3). He does also seem to be more into low key but tough games, I’m pretty sure he’s been playing Talos Principle 2 and enjoying it more than Spider-Man
Putting that much value on a film's musical score is just so foreign to me. I'm much more likely to be aware of a particularly good score rather than a bad one. If it's bad or mediocre, or just tonally off I tend to just not even really pay attention to it. When I first saw Adum's score I figured he'd found some logical flaws in the movie or character; I definitely did not foresee the whole film score aspect bringing it down so much.
I agree. I can definitely think of many times when a movie's score elevated the experience for me (Oldboy, Blade Runner) but never once has a film's score hindered my enjoyment of the film itself.
When you learn a little music theory and play an instrument your ear literally changes. it gets trained. You can't undo this and it heightens you awareness of all musical concepts in anything.
@@Roger_Waters_Broken_Balls James will recommend an anime every time its his turn and then reveal that he actually hates it when it comes to the discussion section.
there's a part in the killer where Fassbender sees a police dog at a checkpoint which he's in line to cross, so he rushes off into the bathroom, practices a chad smile in the mirror, then goes back to the checkpoint and gives the clerk the funniest looking idiot-faced smile ever. loved this film!
Isn't it wholesome that when they have differnt (The killer) they don't fight about it, and just share why it worked or didn't work for them, then just MOVE ON. Only if everyone can handle disagreement like that. (Sure, not every conflict/disagreement can be handle like that but wouldn't it be nice?)
At no point did i feel like spiderman 2 was being pretentious at all, mediocre and cringe sometime, but at no point did i feel like the devs or writers had a higher opinion of them selves for what they we're doing. They don't have those forced slow gameplay moment's becuase they think the story they're displaying is masterful, they just chose the shittiest way to forces its mediocre narrative down your throat. If anything there just trying to reinforce the annoying venom fan service, which again, never felt pretentious, just bad. The gameplay is awesome though.
I think the movie was sold as a super thriller like Zodiac or Seven, but it wasn't anything like that, a lot more contained and drama oriented, really liked the movie, but I agree is far from his best
I watched Capote a year ago without having watched In Cold Blood and I can confirm that I got pretty much nothing from that watch. Watched it for PSH and his performance was the only thing that stuck with me at all, I found that pretty much every other aspect of the film was honestly super dull and forgettable. Might check it out again if I get around to watching In Cold Blood though
I don't know if it was American Psycho or another movie, but I remember one movie discussion where Adum did say something akin to "this movie works both for the unironic fans who take it at face value and for ironic fans who understand the meta aspect", so it's odd that he didn't pick up on that with The Killer
Really not sure what to think of the Fincher. A lot of good stuff, but felt very confused on what it was trying to be overall. Sometimes it felt too subtle and other times it felt too on the nose. Very well shot and acted at least.
It is genuinely disturbing how many people watch a movie, and have all subtext just go completely over their heads. The amount of people who will unironically identify with Patrick Bateman, Travis Bickle, the guy from Nightcrawler, the Joker, etc is such a scathing indictment of our society and a lack of media literacy.
Why do you find it disturbing that people identify with Bateman? The author himself, Bret Easton Ellis, relates to Bateman: “American Psycho is a very autobiographical novel, and it was really about my youthful despair. Patrick Bateman is me.” The human experience is universal, so obviously readers are also going to relate to aspects of the character. Believe it or not, the world isn’t black and white.
@@YuenXii The author of American Psycho literaly wrote the novel to make fun of vacous, yuppie, pretentious Wall Street douchebags like Bateman. Like what are you on about.
I don't think you understand that most people do get the subtext, they just don't care. Why? Because it's fun. It's fun to indulge in your shadow-self. It's fun (and amusing) to relate to bad people. It's going to be especially common now because a lot of writers understand that villains/bad people are more interesting when you humanise them, give them understandable motivation and make them more complex. Even Homelander for example, very bad person, but people can relate to the frustration of being surrounded by people you think you're better than, and it plays into the "fuck it, I'll just do whatever I want" power fantasy. Helps that he's quite funny, intentionally or not. Personally, I've yet to see a "le media literacy" take that isn't just someone having no theory-of-mind about how others, particularly younger, mischievous guys like to think. I find this type of moral panic and scolding to be revealing of someone who doesn't allow themselves to have fun and is a hall monitor, obsessed with being a Decent Fucking PersonTM. Live a little, mate.
In the 90s they were considered sister sompanies. One made Crash Bandicoot and the other Spyro. But that was the 90s. Naughty Dog moved on from cartoons stuff and did great games. Insomniac stuck with cartoons stuff until spider-man. But are trying way to hard to be like them. Peter Parker stuff should of been cutscenes. Build up his life later when he dies.
It always feels a little grotesque and ignorant to hear someone shitting on a good movie that they haven’t seen, astonishingly _because the trailer didn’t appeal to them._ Infamous is a decent piece of work (and sits well alongside Capote due to having such a different approach).
I thought the killer was just an unpretentious very well made thriller. Adam might be right about the score, I never really notice the score unless its really grating or exceptional but god I hate the Smiths
I think Adum has a good point about the inconsistency. It's sometimes very vague about what it's trying to say, but in my opinion that's an important part of it. It messes with your head, constantly threading the line. Satirical/genuine farcical/serious etc. Maybe Fincher's saying something along the lines of.. How can you take yourself seriously in these times? Can you even take farce and satire seriously anymore in a world where everything's become so unsure. Maybe he noticed in the process his old way of filmmaking wasn't of the times anymore, and it naturally became farcical and more like a deconstruction.
@@dajokahbaby1506 I will say he isn’t wrong on some aspects. Spider-Man 2 is more for Spider-Man fans rather than casuals. The dialogue is pretty standard Spider-Man stuff. My main problem is his he overly hates the game based on the intro alone. He calls fans morons and judges the entire game on the intro, yet can’t handle people disliking him doing that. It’s not helped by the fact he wanted to stream another game and bitched and moaned like a baby instead of just playing the game he wanted to at the start. Also why does a AAA need to be entirely unique when it’s a Spider-Man game.
@@duskplains1235 all the playstation spiderman games are actually brain dead slop, everything about it is shallow and lame. also its easily the worst peter parker ever casted
@@duskplains1235 It's not more for Spider-Man fans lol, it's 100% geared more towards a general, casual audience. Frankly, in what way is it more for the fans besides easter eggs? I mean it is for people who, yeah, do like Spider-Man, but not really *hardcore* comic fans like you're implying. It's for people who are fans of Spider-Man the IP, not really the comic book character, which funnily enough is probably where Adum falls into. I guess it isn't fair that he based the entire game on just the intro, but to be honest the game doesn't get more indepth after that. Everything he complains about is still a problem later on, just to a slighlty lesser degree. Spider-Man PS4 was kinda like this, too. Where the first half was more focused on tutorials and "cinematic experiences" rather than actual gameplay, but once the game got into gear, there was a bit more freedom in terms of gameplay.
I thought the Killer was fairly mediocre almost juvenile at times regarding what is ‘cool’ or ‘badass’. When I heard awhile after I saw it that it was based on a a graphic novel that all made sense. I still thought it was mediocre. I’m glad Alex was able to enjoy it.
Adam's on point with the score conflicting with The Killer's scenes. It did not matched, and I think it could have saved the movie so much to have even a minimalist violin based score or something. Something memorable, not Social Network's leftovers. It could have added an atmosphere so striking.
David Fincher is a great director, but with a few exceptions, he always chooses really crappy material to adapt, resulting in well-put-together films with lousy stories and scripts. It’s almost like he’s dodging good projects because if they turn out bad, the blame will be on him. As a result, about half of his filmography is kind of a waste of time.
The only podcast where you can find a furry kink-shaming venom fans. That's quality content.
RIP Ralph. It’s a shame that he was on the killer’s hit list
So… is he just gone?
@@mikeymotorpsyche2792he dropped out a few months ago, wants to focus all his time on his own channel/podcast/film career
He died where we loved him. On the toilet
What happened w him? He definitely balanced out the pod, usually being a bit more forgiving w most movies
@@miisherhe was very forgiving but mostly his input consisted of surface level things like, “the acting was good” or “I liked the cinematography”, so it’s not too big of a loss.
He’s working on his own “projects”, maybe some film industry work?
i was looking for a ralph, and then i found a ralph. and heaven knows im miserable now.
The sequence in St. Pete with the sounds of the wetlands at night was incredible. Lives in that area most of my life and don’t know of movies that make use of that kind of sound. Really nice touch for me.
Michael Fassbender is interesting, because I think he's a great actor, and he SHOULD be more recognized in the mainstream. He played a lot of roles in pretty bad or bland movies, but on the other hand, he played some really iconic roles. I particularly love the Frank (2014) movie, where he's not seen until like the last 10 minutes of the movie, yet his singing actually made me really emotional and cry and his role was a really good twist on the "he's good, because he's damaged" trope. His Magneto in the X men First class, was actually what sold the movie to me, despite all the goofyness.
Should be more recognized in the mainstream? What the fuck are you talking about? Fassbender was one of the most famous and acclaimed actors in the world in the early to mid 2010s. What a preposterously stupid thing to say.
thanks for the upload, this makes my drive to the airport so much more chill
In sardonicast we trust
Ralph gets the last laugh regarding Spider-Man PS4.
I'm glad Adam took my recommendation on watching Capote too. Great movie and a great performance
The smiths playlist to me was like “what kind of psycho would only listen to the smiths”
The Killer was American Psycho meets Bourne Identity, and I can’t say that doesn’t hit my buttons, even if it didn’t hit its full potential. One of those rare ones that would actually benefit from being a good bit longer.
Dude you were eating a giant sandwich and was distracted the whole time. Score was amazing.
I absolutely loved watching the Killer purely for the aesthetics and the vibes. I fully understand that’s not enough for most people, I’m not going to argue the narrative was amazing. But I found it fascinating watching Fincher elevate a pretty mediocre script into something so cinematic and stylish. The film had great cinematography and editing throughout and Fassbender is just captivating to watch.
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Felt the same way about "The Killer" as Adum. The last line of the film made it even worse. Glad he did, since he gave a lot of my favorites this year 6/10's.
I'm not a big fan of biopics, but to me "Capote" is a special addition. Rather than trying to tell one man's entire life story in a couple hours, it devotes it's time to a significant event from that person's life, that manages to encapsulate everything Truman Capote represented as far as his personality and contributions to literature.
Random thought: I liked that the KILLER would legitimately look scared or worried when things wouldn't go as planned. Dude was gonna cry when he hid behind the counter in that Florida scene. I really did appreciate that.
Can’t say I saw that same degree of panic when he hid behind the counter
A dreaded sunny day, when I met "THE KILLER" and he took me to the cemetry gates
Oh my god, I can't wait for the discussion about Klaus Kinski next episode. That guy was fucking nuts.
This podcast feels like siskel and ebert now that there's no one to say Truman Capote needed to get laid.
This is so weird. I watched Capote last month, and I could have sworn Adam had recommended it many years ago. Also lol at how now I'm gonna watch In Cold Blood after Capote. And I agree with Alex, I found it hard to really feel the same way as Truman with his attachment to Perry. Felt like that was a big missing piece to believing the story.
i can understand how adam feels about Killer. Some people act like subtext is all you need to create a fantastic movie when in reality there’s a lot more to film than just that
THE KILLER rules. Not sure what they on. Great, great film!
EDIT: So funny how Adum knocks The Killer for being derivative of DRIVE and AMEROCAN PSYCHO.
But like, both of those movies are extremely derivative of 1960s and 70s movies. Like blatantly so.
All movies are derivative. The Killer differentiated itself thru Fincher’s impeccable craft and the sly humor at the core of all of his movies.
Fassbender’s a face alone is just hilarious at points. Like when he realizes the dog is coming. So funny.
Yeah imagine if he grew up watching le samourai, he would definitely be bashing on drive or something else in that case
Adum really needs to brush up on his film history. Always been an issue of his
The part with the cheese grater got a laugh out of me.
@@Tyler12905 ok but he didn't? wat.
0:01 Everywhere I go, I see his face...
“He has left us alone, but shafts of light sometimes grace the corner of our rooms.”
That was so weird to have both Captoe movies come out within a year: Infamous and Captoe. I wonder what the producers (Warner Bros. & Sony) were thinking? It was like when Wyatt Earp and Tombstone came out the same year. Or when Armageddon and Deep Impact came out the same year too.
One of my favorite films of all time. Scott Wilson is incredible.
I can see why Adam dislikes how ambiguous the killer’s true intentions were and his score is consistent with his opinions. I personally didn’t mind the ambiguity and the straight forward plot can even be a dig at the typical action movie revenge fantasy formula. I personally would give it a 6 for being above average, but these digs and subversions like Adam said have been done before with more compelling execution
The devs pretty much said they don’t give a fuck if you don’t like the mj sections. So prepare for them to triple down.
Adam dropping the ball again with these takes on The Killer…
He makes some good points
You can understand a persons criticisms & still like the film
Like I think he’s right but I still love the movie^^
It was mid
The read of The Killer being Fincher at his most self-reflexive is really dumb. All of his films are in some way - in a way that applies to society in general, not just how he directs his films. Obsession, power-struggle, control or lack there of - all of these things have already persisted in his filmography.
People tend to use "self-reflexive" reads when they get nothing else from their viewing and instead they create this perfect symbolism in their head. Like sure, Fincher is aware of the similarities with the filmmaking process - just like the screenwriter, the DP and the crew are, judging by the interviews. Doesn't make it the centerpiece of the thematic background of the film. Saying "the director reflects on his own work here" is doing a disservice to what the film actually wants to say - because when people approach you with the argument that the film is empty and has nothing to say, saying it's about the director isn't that compelling an answer and it doesn't go anywhere.
There are things to the film that only really reveal themselves on the consecutive viewings and when discussing the film, digging in the details - because you inevitably focus on the plot and technicalities the first time. But leaving the first viewing thinking "it's empty and has nothing to say" with no intention of going back and rewatching parts or discussing the film, when the film clearly has things to say and nudges you throughout to grab onto these things - is just ignorant.
Still don't agree with Adam on the film, but at least I get his perspective more now. I highly suggest people who ended up disliking the film to give it another go while paying attention to the protagonist's mantra and how it relates to his targets, empathy and his psyche in general as well as the very intentional subtleties in Fasbender performance that lead on certain reads about the film.
Thank you, you've pretty much put my thoughts into words.
No way in heck am I putting myself through that film again.
What's your interpretation?
What movie are they talking about at 53:50
This really does need 3 people.
i fuckin loved the score lol
This is a much more constructive, thoughtful, and interesting conversation about The Killer than the watchalong which was basically just a hatefest.
Can someone explain Adums taste in games, like does he not like big action setpieces and over the top stylish games, I saw his reaction to hi fi rush as well, Not to say his points on spiderman 2 aren’t valid, frankly I agree with the dialogue/ story points but most of it just feels like its not his type of game and he is trying to project that.
He seems to like big set pieces in games when they have a lot of depth and weight to them, like with the newer God of Wars and some of the Uncharteds (I know he really doesn’t like 4, but I think he enjoys the first 3). He does also seem to be more into low key but tough games, I’m pretty sure he’s been playing Talos Principle 2 and enjoying it more than Spider-Man
spider man = batman arkham but bad, hi fi rush = DMC but worse. he's just based
Putting that much value on a film's musical score is just so foreign to me. I'm much more likely to be aware of a particularly good score rather than a bad one. If it's bad or mediocre, or just tonally off I tend to just not even really pay attention to it.
When I first saw Adum's score I figured he'd found some logical flaws in the movie or character; I definitely did not foresee the whole film score aspect bringing it down so much.
I agree. I can definitely think of many times when a movie's score elevated the experience for me (Oldboy, Blade Runner) but never once has a film's score hindered my enjoyment of the film itself.
They also describe the movie as simple and not his deepest like that’s what makes a movie better???
When you learn a little music theory and play an instrument your ear literally changes. it gets trained. You can't undo this and it heightens you awareness of all musical concepts in anything.
we need someone like Ralph to balance out these scores lol
We need James on the cast. He'll somehow manage to disagree with both Adam and Alex every episode.
no we don’t
@@Roger_Waters_Broken_Ballsyeah get pisserdick in here!
@@Roger_Waters_Broken_Balls James will recommend an anime every time its his turn and then reveal that he actually hates it when it comes to the discussion section.
@@georgie7109 He'll recommend a new evangelion episode everytime it's his turn until they've watched the entire series and the movie
It's so sad to me that the dark crystal age of resistance is forever trapped on Netflix. It needs a blu ray release.
there's a part in the killer where Fassbender sees a police dog at a checkpoint which he's in line to cross, so he rushes off into the bathroom, practices a chad smile in the mirror, then goes back to the checkpoint and gives the clerk the funniest looking idiot-faced smile ever. loved this film!
You all hated Ralph when he was on, and now you all miss him!
Who hated Ralph???
I don't miss him
I still hate him
I never hated him and I don't really miss him
Who's Ralph?
Isn't it wholesome that when they have differnt (The killer) they don't fight about it, and just share why it worked or didn't work for them, then just MOVE ON. Only if everyone can handle disagreement like that. (Sure, not every conflict/disagreement can be handle like that but wouldn't it be nice?)
Adums take on Spiderman 2 PS5 might be one of the worst I've heard
Whats the movie they talk about in the In Cold Blood discussion where the title is a spoiler
The score was great Adumb.
At no point did i feel like spiderman 2 was being pretentious at all, mediocre and cringe sometime, but at no point did i feel like the devs or writers had a higher opinion of them selves for what they we're doing. They don't have those forced slow gameplay moment's becuase they think the story they're displaying is masterful, they just chose the shittiest way to forces its mediocre narrative down your throat. If anything there just trying to reinforce the annoying venom fan service, which again, never felt pretentious, just bad. The gameplay is awesome though.
I think the movie was sold as a super thriller like Zodiac or Seven, but it wasn't anything like that, a lot more contained and drama oriented, really liked the movie, but I agree is far from his best
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I watched Capote a year ago without having watched In Cold Blood and I can confirm that I got pretty much nothing from that watch. Watched it for PSH and his performance was the only thing that stuck with me at all, I found that pretty much every other aspect of the film was honestly super dull and forgettable. Might check it out again if I get around to watching In Cold Blood though
I don't know if it was American Psycho or another movie, but I remember one movie discussion where Adum did say something akin to "this movie works both for the unironic fans who take it at face value and for ironic fans who understand the meta aspect", so it's odd that he didn't pick up on that with The Killer
It’s a mediocre movie based on a mediocre comic book. It’s not the grand commentary that you seem to think it is.
If you actually listened to the podcast he said he doesn't think it works on either level, ironic or unironic
@@hiphopheadninethreeyou cannot just state this. People have different experiences with art, and it is no one else’s place to invalidate them.
Really not sure what to think of the Fincher. A lot of good stuff, but felt very confused on what it was trying to be overall. Sometimes it felt too subtle and other times it felt too on the nose. Very well shot and acted at least.
How is it well directed if it doesn't know what it wants to be?
@@RajlivHD I mean that it was well shot and composed.
It is genuinely disturbing how many people watch a movie, and have all subtext just go completely over their heads.
The amount of people who will unironically identify with Patrick Bateman, Travis Bickle, the guy from Nightcrawler, the Joker, etc is such a scathing indictment of our society and a lack of media literacy.
cant believe media is perceived differently for different people, wow what a revelation dude
Why do you find it disturbing that people identify with Bateman? The author himself, Bret Easton Ellis, relates to Bateman: “American Psycho is a very autobiographical novel, and it was really about my youthful despair. Patrick Bateman is me.”
The human experience is universal, so obviously readers are also going to relate to aspects of the character. Believe it or not, the world isn’t black and white.
@@YuenXii The author of American Psycho literaly wrote the novel to make fun of vacous, yuppie, pretentious Wall Street douchebags like Bateman. Like what are you on about.
I don't think you understand that most people do get the subtext, they just don't care. Why? Because it's fun. It's fun to indulge in your shadow-self. It's fun (and amusing) to relate to bad people. It's going to be especially common now because a lot of writers understand that villains/bad people are more interesting when you humanise them, give them understandable motivation and make them more complex. Even Homelander for example, very bad person, but people can relate to the frustration of being surrounded by people you think you're better than, and it plays into the "fuck it, I'll just do whatever I want" power fantasy. Helps that he's quite funny, intentionally or not.
Personally, I've yet to see a "le media literacy" take that isn't just someone having no theory-of-mind about how others, particularly younger, mischievous guys like to think. I find this type of moral panic and scolding to be revealing of someone who doesn't allow themselves to have fun and is a hall monitor, obsessed with being a Decent Fucking PersonTM. Live a little, mate.
@samaukland1418 Oh, I see. "Live a little" by being a misanthropic psychopath? 🤦♂️
Ralph should guest host for a few years. Just temporarily, you know? Until 2030 lets say.
anyone know where ralph went? i'm out of the loop
Pretty sure he's just focusing on his own channel and content right now.
@@Jackson-df3rv cool, thanks
@sarcasticdude2320 dude, are you being sarcastic?
@sarcasticdude2320 RIP
@@truthhc maybe he's being.... SARDONIC
BEEN SAYING SINCE 2018 THAT INSOMNIAC NEEDS TO STOP TRYING TO BE NAUGHTY DOG
In the 90s they were considered sister sompanies. One made Crash Bandicoot and the other Spyro. But that was the 90s. Naughty Dog moved on from cartoons stuff and did great games. Insomniac stuck with cartoons stuff until spider-man. But are trying way to hard to be like them. Peter Parker stuff should of been cutscenes. Build up his life later when he dies.
Whatever happened to themoviemaker guy? Please bring him back, too long he's been gone n away
I thought Miles Morales was pretty great
I hope Ralph is doing well
I thought the killer was slightly above mid. Funny enough I’d give it a 6/10
The Killer is a goofball who really wants to quit and retire.
Dang PSH is really missed.
Yes!
Day 64 of asking for an episode on the Evil Dead trilogy
It always feels a little grotesque and ignorant to hear someone shitting on a good movie that they haven’t seen, astonishingly _because the trailer didn’t appeal to them._ Infamous is a decent piece of work (and sits well alongside Capote due to having such a different approach).
I thought the killer was just an unpretentious very well made thriller.
Adam might be right about the score, I never really notice the score unless its really grating or exceptional but god I hate the Smiths
You hate the Smith's? I didn't know Smiths haters were a thing. I definitely understand Smith's indifferent-ers tho
@@RoshDroz Nobody hates The Smiths, they hate Morrisey.
God I love the Smiths
@@RoshDroz It's not gamers who are oppressed, it's Smiths fans like us......
In Cold Blood is a widely read BOOK. I think thats where most people know the story. In the US people read it in Highschool sometimes
I think Adum has a good point about the inconsistency.
It's sometimes very vague about what it's trying to say, but in my opinion that's an important part of it.
It messes with your head, constantly threading the line. Satirical/genuine farcical/serious etc.
Maybe Fincher's saying something along the lines of.. How can you take yourself seriously in these times? Can you even take farce and satire seriously anymore in a world where everything's become so unsure.
Maybe he noticed in the process his old way of filmmaking wasn't of the times anymore, and it naturally became farcical and more like a deconstruction.
I was curious how Alex felt about Spider-Man 2 but had to endure Adum as well.
Even though Adum’s 100% right lmao. Web of Shadows wasn’t perfect, but at least it was actually a game and the corny writing had charm compared to SM2
@@dajokahbaby1506 I will say he isn’t wrong on some aspects. Spider-Man 2 is more for Spider-Man fans rather than casuals. The dialogue is pretty standard Spider-Man stuff.
My main problem is his he overly hates the game based on the intro alone. He calls fans morons and judges the entire game on the intro, yet can’t handle people disliking him doing that.
It’s not helped by the fact he wanted to stream another game and bitched and moaned like a baby instead of just playing the game he wanted to at the start.
Also why does a AAA need to be entirely unique when it’s a Spider-Man game.
@@duskplains1235 all the playstation spiderman games are actually brain dead slop, everything about it is shallow and lame. also its easily the worst peter parker ever casted
@@duskplains1235 It's not more for Spider-Man fans lol, it's 100% geared more towards a general, casual audience. Frankly, in what way is it more for the fans besides easter eggs? I mean it is for people who, yeah, do like Spider-Man, but not really *hardcore* comic fans like you're implying. It's for people who are fans of Spider-Man the IP, not really the comic book character, which funnily enough is probably where Adum falls into.
I guess it isn't fair that he based the entire game on just the intro, but to be honest the game doesn't get more indepth after that. Everything he complains about is still a problem later on, just to a slighlty lesser degree. Spider-Man PS4 was kinda like this, too. Where the first half was more focused on tutorials and "cinematic experiences" rather than actual gameplay, but once the game got into gear, there was a bit more freedom in terms of gameplay.
I hope the podcast doesnt end :( I know Ralphs been gone awhile but just have a feeling.
Is Adum an Atticus Ross hater or Trent Reznor hater? Seems like a bit'o'hatin going on. But who knows, sometimes Adum just do be hatin
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the killer was boring
I LITERALLY just watched In Cold Blood for the very first time today!!! Are y'all watching me or something??!! Lmao
YMS not understanding movies again
Just felt like Netflix content than a David Fincher movie
1:41:00 🤓🤓🤓
I thought the Killer was fairly mediocre almost juvenile at times regarding what is ‘cool’ or ‘badass’. When I heard awhile after I saw it that it was based on a a graphic novel that all made sense. I still thought it was mediocre. I’m glad Alex was able to enjoy it.
Why hasn’t Ralph been in recent episodes
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The killer was freakin epic man he listed cool facts
Ralph sucked
The Killer AND Spider-Man 2 PS5?? Adum’s gonna be INSUFFERABLE 😭
Adam's on point with the score conflicting with The Killer's scenes. It did not matched, and I think it could have saved the movie so much to have even a minimalist violin based score or something. Something memorable, not Social Network's leftovers. It could have added an atmosphere so striking.
The Killer is David Fincher's worst movie. Even Alien 3 is better.
David Fincher is a great director, but with a few exceptions, he always chooses really crappy material to adapt, resulting in well-put-together films with lousy stories and scripts. It’s almost like he’s dodging good projects because if they turn out bad, the blame will be on him. As a result, about half of his filmography is kind of a waste of time.
Tard take.
The killer was absolutely terrible. I can’t believe Alex liked it
Internet user finds out about opinions and personal taste and freaks out
@@luiginastro8831 was it really that much of a freak out?
Adam’s criticism of Spider Man 2 is bizarre. It’s a game dude not a movie.
So is Ralph ever coming back?
I don’t think so. His Reddit post made no mention of a return :(
He said he’ll come back as a guest at some point but not as a permanent member.
@@george4monman. :(
@@george4mon Idk why I thought he was just taking a break. He will be missed.
We can make a hashtag for the grandma merch push. Maybe #onlygrans