SW20 MR2 ULTIMATE BUYERS GUIDE (Snap Oversteer Isn't That BAD!)

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  • @damicothebest
    @damicothebest ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is a decent buyers guide but you forgot to mention the different Gens of 3sgte , gen4 and gen5 turbo swaps!! They are more common now than stock engine layouts. Mentioning how swaps play a role into the cost like the 2gr engine as well being a v6 NA. They are quite common as well! Good video keep it up man

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks man! I’ll add that next time!

    • @edrixb58
      @edrixb58 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can u explain what gen 3sgte is best, im looking at buying an sw20 and some have 4th and 5th gen 3sgte’s idk the difference

    • @mrsquirrel8079
      @mrsquirrel8079 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No... this is an MR2 specific video. The MR2 only came with the gen 2 or gen 3... any gen after that came in other cars.. NOT the MR2

    • @damicothebest
      @damicothebest 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrsquirrel8079 yeah but as an mr2 owner with one of those motors, it’s the most common motor in an mr2 in the us next to maybe the NA motors. Gen4 and 5 were cheapest most accessible swap to a daily turbo MR2s. Just because Toyota didn’t do it factory don’t mean it’s not worth mention. As this is a buyers guide, it would be right to guide you on the fact that MOST mr2 for sale in the US are projects of someone else you’re taking on! Usually swaps

  • @paulc.9871
    @paulc.9871 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For the leaky ttops, Shin Etsu grease is readily available and will soften/expand the rubber and stop the leaks

    • @dylan4972
      @dylan4972 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best way to stop the leaking is to buy a hard top 😆.

    • @paulc.9871
      @paulc.9871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dylan4972 You aren’t wrong 😅

    • @dylan4972
      @dylan4972 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulc.9871 Lol, I have the hard top but can't beat the t-top on a nice day for a drive. I'll give that Shin Etsu grease a go on the window rubber.

    • @BungoV1
      @BungoV1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also there's modified eccentric guides (the plugs the tbar pins mount into) which offsets the mounting point slightly making the seal much tighter.

  • @kyozen233
    @kyozen233 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of my favorites.
    People give it a bad rep because they don't know how to drive a mid engine car especially around corners.

  • @mikepowers572
    @mikepowers572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Missed the most common engine of the lot, the rev3 3sge in the rev3,4,5 mr2 NA. 172hp and 168 in rev4/5 due to egr valve. rev2 was first for door crash bars. rev5 was mostly the 168hp rev3 3sge. other than red stiching, red and chrome gauges the rev5 got the lightest wheels and light lug nuts, speed flaps and 4 way ABS. with only around 1000 cars being made with the Beams in Japan only. OEM roof seals are cheaper than 4 new tyres! The chassis code tells you if there is a diff (although swaps happen a lot). Early cars could have lsd as an option. Midnight Blue is quite rare and only on the later revs, sonic shaddow also only on later 4 and 5 rev cars..
    but hey, at least this is some mr2 content

  • @Jvnebvg
    @Jvnebvg ปีที่แล้ว

    i got mine 96 sw20 turbo aqua marine pearl rhd a year ago and man do i love the it the mr2 has been my dream car since a child and to finally own one its amazing and the rarity is dope. daily it for the summers and its the best drive i ever had in a car plus all the performance mods i have been doing to it.

  • @RetroMotiveAdventures
    @RetroMotiveAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Owned the first and second gen and driven third gen MR2s my favorite is the 1st second has to be the third purely for handling and the least favorite to me driving wise was the second gen. The 91-92 pre suspension revision definitely was twitchy at the rear. Also felt the most detached from the road compared to the other two. The second gen definitely is the most beautifully styled subjectively but I still don't regret selling mine.
    (Edit) also sadly the US got the 5SFEs for the NA version not the 3SGE which is an absolute dog in the MR2, it's torque drives like a truck and just has nothing above about 4k. Definitely need a turbo or 2GR to liven things up.

  • @mushlove6933
    @mushlove6933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Underrated for sure!

  • @stardayz88
    @stardayz88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have my eye on a Solar yellow MR2 (twincam 16 3S-GE) down the road from where I live, glad to finally find some info about its generation.

  • @shawns1793
    @shawns1793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my biggest regrets was selling my 91 mr2. Now the market is 3x the price, but I will definitely own another one

    • @Bl00dwerK
      @Bl00dwerK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, but probably to a lesser degree. Mine was pretty shot by the time I got rid of it. I wasn't making much at the time, was divorced and paying child support, so upkeep wasn't much of a consideration. I do intend to get another one, though. Also had an '85 back in the early 90's. Man, was that car fun!

  • @JB-sv5pr
    @JB-sv5pr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve seeen so many mr2z in the last year people are importing them left and right! Just on the island of Oahu alone there is around 30 different mr2z that show up at local meets right now! Very cool to see the spaceship Toyota getting the love! Cheap power and fun for now $$$$$!

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow thats really cool! I want one to haha

    • @dylan4972
      @dylan4972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seem to be gaining popularity in recent years.

  • @nrs6956
    @nrs6956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically a great car with considerable potential. A simple drive brings many a smile. Original owner 91T. Parts availability can be challenging. Have seen on TH-cam 23 model preview but electric
    or ICE is a question as well as pricing.

  • @KBradAdams
    @KBradAdams ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video few months ago I bought a 91 Turbo, original paint motor, turbo t-tops-no leaks no rust. I had to replace the brake pads all around and e-brake cables but nothing else. Oh and the radio comes on, CD player plays and cassette plays once I found the security code in the owners manual but "no" sound from the speakers? Any ideas what that might be? Amp maybe? Car has 110K original miles and original paint looks almost new.

  • @technosworld2
    @technosworld2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    there was also a super rare sky blue color but I don't have popularity numbers on it, extremely rare though from what I remember. My first MR2 was turquoise pearl, I liked it, but would have preferred red...looking to buy another one very soon.

    • @imranjaved1786
      @imranjaved1786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the sky blue one in the UK. while doing work on it it got stolen outside the garage. It was the best one I had now got the red one

  • @BrandonLeech
    @BrandonLeech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat cars. Wish I still had mine. A mint 94 turbo sold for $38k I saw in another vid.

  • @whatwoulddarrendo1325
    @whatwoulddarrendo1325 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sw20 was in production from 1989.

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obligatory comment i must leave on any MR2 guide like this, the snap oversteer especially on 93-95 SW20 can be completely solved with a bit of simple tuning. Instead of explaining it look into Steve "XHead" Hoelscher work on the matter, it should be archived on some forums and easy to find, and pretty well known in the NA autocross community in that at any major event you can often find a MR2 owner who has either done the changes or knows of it, part of this is that it was his suggested guidelines that lead to the SW20 making a huge return to many street tire classes, claimed many champion titles at national level for multiple drivers and owners. It completely transforms the cars. Said changes can be applied to any MR2, but 93-95 is a cool year because no modification to pick up points is required for it to really shine, just some basic ride height, spring, sway bar and potential tire size stuff.
    Despite it being well known within certain circles i never see it often discussed by many onlookers or new to the fold, and the changes honestly transform the car into a drifty (in a good way) motorboat that bonds with the driver rather then wild animal that tries to bite.
    Great video all around otherwise Hako

  • @zXDavinatoRXz
    @zXDavinatoRXz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got myself a rev 5 with a purple colour stock from factory I believe they called it cosmo blue seems pretty rare but is it?

  • @Ayixlia
    @Ayixlia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a SW21 NA with a sunroof it's a 1993 model in a special metallic light Blue the last year the MR2 was made in the USA and then I sold it! It was a very rare car with Blue interior.

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว

      What was the reason for selling it?

    • @Ayixlia
      @Ayixlia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hakosan86 I wanted a 94 Mustang with REAL air scoops then sold that to get a SAAB 90-3 SE then I sold that to get a E46 ZHP sedan and I still have that car today for 5yrs

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ayixlia oh nice!

  • @jonc2276
    @jonc2276 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own one I am either going to get rid of or keep and try to fix up a lot of interest in it

  • @volkov2259
    @volkov2259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I keep seeing the mr2 and the more I see it the more I want it

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy one before it’s too late!

  • @mario_sw20
    @mario_sw20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have the 5sfe with the turbo exterior features. it’s slow…beyond slow but still fun

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man theres nothing wrong with having a slow car that looks fast lol as long as you have fun with it

  • @edgarzavala8416
    @edgarzavala8416 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think my MR2 is or at least was Aquamarine pearl it’s a ‘91 NA T-Top (SW21). Wherever the paint still looks decent it’s a dark blue-ish green and you can see the blue pearl in it kind of like Honda’s Nighthawk Black

  • @Vadmagyarpanda
    @Vadmagyarpanda ปีที่แล้ว

    3:20 are the new one plug n play if you have an MR2 with old one? Can i just change it if i want a new one?

  • @the_apex_latino420
    @the_apex_latino420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would grip heavy, and slightly wider tires help with the oversteer? And does sway bars and new suspension work too?

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes both would help with oversteer

  • @imranjaved1786
    @imranjaved1786 ปีที่แล้ว

    The baby blue or aka Caribbean blue colour is a extremely rare colour I had one in a gts model coupe in 08. Someone stole it and I never saw it again😢. Now I've got a red one for a project

  • @infanatosuks4880
    @infanatosuks4880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Driving this uphill on my sim is a lot of fun but downhill is where i started having the snap problem it wasnt bad, i started learning to drift it on flat ground but i need a different setup than the one i get and nobody is interested in making stock versions of this

  • @apesrus6084
    @apesrus6084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best years are the 90’s era cars

  • @turbogears900
    @turbogears900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to see you do something on the lexus sc300

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doing that very soon!

  • @NatVirgo
    @NatVirgo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr2 in today’s economy: More than you can afford pal.

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:09. There is no "rear diff". The MR2 uses a transaxle, like a FWD car, and as such, the diff is buried inside the transmission.

    • @somerandomgoogleuser3374
      @somerandomgoogleuser3374 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, exactly - perfectly put in words! Dumb ass mistake by producer of video. Quite a few other details missed also. Poor research.....

  • @ihyshaq8627
    @ihyshaq8627 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    can we get a 300zx buyers guide

  • @bozidarstrk
    @bozidarstrk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say all those problems are nothing compared to rust,bought mine looked without rust with factory under body protection..after removing under body protection ended up welding 6 months ...a lot of rust is hidden on main chassis under air intake on quarter panels...in the end for non DiY guys could cost a lot to fix (10-20K)

  • @sonny_z900
    @sonny_z900 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 1993 MR2 with 156Pk. gen 2. EU, sold it

  • @MotorSwapDan
    @MotorSwapDan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro odfly specific😊

  • @KO-sx9uy
    @KO-sx9uy ปีที่แล้ว

    The stock suspension sucks. Have to get Wilhelm Racing Kit to correct the geometry otherwise handling is dangerous imo.

  • @NekroStevo
    @NekroStevo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @0:47 - Dealerships in UK still sold SW20's into 2000.

  • @cristianrysanek7669
    @cristianrysanek7669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about the w20 with 3sfe engine i found one RHD here in spain and im buying it next month, is that rare enough?¿

    • @cristianrysanek7669
      @cristianrysanek7669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and its aqua marine pearl as well.

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว

      3sfe was the worse engine to come in the mr2 but i’d still get it because an mr2 is better than no mr2

  • @rigell.9624
    @rigell.9624 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m actually watching it to learn what is snap means

  • @JayE535
    @JayE535 ปีที่แล้ว

    @3:18 what tail lights are this. Would go great with my build

    • @kevenalvarez2127
      @kevenalvarez2127 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever find out ? I want to know as well

  • @TheErik1119
    @TheErik1119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U need to put the price range and the miles for the car and what's a good deal! Pls

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See i did that when i started doing these but the market is changing so quickly that if i put the prices in this video, it probably wont be correct in a couple months.

    • @TheErik1119
      @TheErik1119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hakosan86 damn well hopefully in the future man cuhz these videos are dope! can u give a estimation for then like rn bro the a good deal. like good miles and price . for a budget ?

    • @RetroMotiveAdventures
      @RetroMotiveAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      You can still get a clean NA car for under 8K, sold a 1991 one owner NA for 8K here in CA just about a month or so ago. Turbos expect to pay 10k+ for "ok ones" and 20k+ for show room nice ones. Imported models still can be had under 16k they are rather inexpensive still in Japan. If you privately import one you may even be able to find one under 10k.

    • @jraddd3477
      @jraddd3477 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just bought a nice running 91 sw20 for $800, deals are out there

  • @esphilee
    @esphilee ปีที่แล้ว

    MR2 snap oversteer is really bad. I watched a video where MR2s are racing each other on the circuit, almost everyone had snap over steel somewhere along the race.

  • @davidfernandez2532
    @davidfernandez2532 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAKE ULTIMATE BUYERS GUIDE in Toyota Celica 5th Gen,,

  • @proofmr2
    @proofmr2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    steel mist gray is the rarest color by far and its not even in the list?

    • @hakosan86
      @hakosan86  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a us color sorry

    • @proofmr2
      @proofmr2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hakosan86 yes it is for 91-92

    • @sentree9857
      @sentree9857 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Isn’t steel mist gray one of the more common colors? I have a 93 in SMG

    • @BrandonLeech
      @BrandonLeech ปีที่แล้ว

      It was not a rare color. My 92 was that color and I knew another local guy with a 93. Sure do miss those days.

  • @legokingiscool
    @legokingiscool ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:19

  • @toyotasprintertrueno86
    @toyotasprintertrueno86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Advice: Don't oversteer into a family of 4 and their dog

  • @mushlove6933
    @mushlove6933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:21 what in the world was this guy on? Has to be the worst driver ever lol

    • @somerandomgoogleuser3374
      @somerandomgoogleuser3374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd say he was a "newbee" MR2 driver & did the classic "oh shit it's drifting" & braked & steered "out of drift" too hard it just Yoyoed back & 4th till the "bottle top spin" took over....

    • @mushlove6933
      @mushlove6933 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@somerandomgoogleuser3374 yea lol definitely a rookie

  • @kzukiodenthechad7205
    @kzukiodenthechad7205 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Turquoise Blue is by Far The Ugliest Color out of The Five

  • @koldplayz1
    @koldplayz1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. Your intonation makes it difficult at times to hear you…

  • @redsunsmr284
    @redsunsmr284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rare colors cuz they were so ugly.

    • @somerandomgoogleuser3374
      @somerandomgoogleuser3374 ปีที่แล้ว

      I luv my Arctic White one. Hard top Gen 4 "Emanuel" transmission!!! Uber low mileage J.D.M

  • @monstrosityguy5375
    @monstrosityguy5375 ปีที่แล้ว

    What wheels are those 😮 in the thumb nail

  • @paulc.9871
    @paulc.9871 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the leaky ttops, Shin Etsu grease is readily available and will soften/expand the rubber and stop the leaks