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The Braves were trapped at Turner Field, so they left Atlanta.
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As a lifelong braves fan, I'll always miss Turner field as its the stadium I grew up with. With that said, Truist is an incredible stadium and the battery is amazing. it's the stadium the players and fans deserve.
As a Braves fan since they first came here in 1966 I miss Fulton County Stadium where I got to see Hank Aaron, Dale Murphy, Phil Kniekro, Jerry Royster, Bob Horner, Jeff Burroughs, Dusty Baker, Darrell Evans & many others but those '90s Braves were off the charts
I think everyone agrees truist is by far the better ballpark, man I wish I could just see 1 more game at the Ted.
I was just at TRUIST on June 1 - holy hell that ballpark is amazing
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman14 straight division titles from 1991-2005 (excluding the player's strike in 1994), and only one World Series title ain't nothing to brag about.
@@mikecanul yea its great, I have been to a few & its one of the best
Atlanta was never going to put money into Turner Field. Remember the City of Atlanta did not pay for Turner Field; it was inherited by Atlanta from ACOG (Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games). ACOG paid for all of the construction and baseball conversion. Once the Olympic were over and all of the bills were paid ACOG dissolved, and all venues were turned over to the local governments. Thus, Atlanta had no need to issue $200 million in bonds to renovate Turner Field. They actually sold it to Ge State Univ. for $28 million which was all profit.
Kasim Reed was a dumpster fire of a mayor. The Braves wanted to build up the Summerhill area like as was done at the Battery - team told the city of their plans AND that there was a back up site. Reed and his cronies thought the Braves were bluffing, and we see how well that went for downtown! Reed also sat by silently as the Thrashers struggled then moved away. One of the worst mayors we ever had.
The thrasher wasn't Reeds Fault, plus the Braves was silent on the stadium and move
@@riccorichbraves absolutely weren't silent about it, no venues around turner field has been a thing for decades. Notice that as soon as the braves move out, they finally decided to build up the area surrounding the ballpark?
@@jcspotter7322 yeah, and Atlanta hasn't missed a beat..., The Braves thought they should be entitled to all the profits and control all the development in that area, and the city rightly said no, thank you! We don't need y'all...
They, The Braves, were always bad tenants, even with their being gifted Turner Field for no money...My thought is the people in those surrounding neighborhoods say good riddance to the ATLANTA braves, 'cause they did nothing but take from the neighborhood, and never gave it anything but grief...
And Ga. State has been much better for that area and has attracted a hell of a lot of money there...
so Thank you ATLANTA braves for moving on, so other things good for the city could take place in the Summerhill/Mechanicsville/Grant Park area, that area has really taken off since the braves skedaddled, it's been majorly redeveloped, and is a much more affluent area now, since they aren't trying to hog it all for Liberty Media and it's board!!!
So when will they be changing the name to the Cobb County, or the Perimeter Hwy/I-75 Braves? Can't happen soon enough for me cause they no longer have standing in the city!
Kasim Reed and most of Atlanta's former mayors belong in jail.
@@jcspotter7322you can walk from the dome to Turner field at least take a bus. What about the lie it was for OTP fans cause Gwinnett fans are still just as screwed and cat take MARTA!
Living in Tennessee it made Braves games an option again and it's such a treat now
I’m from the city and I can tell you that building Turner field was a mistake on location. Summerhill never wanted it and protested it even when the Olympics where announced because they knew they would be the first affected.
But it's in much better condition now. At the time I can understand why they would fight, but it's unrecognizable now. From then to now.
I’m sorry, what was the purpose of this video? The Braves moved into a new stadium that NOW has them in the Top 5 in attendance. That’s good business..enough said.
@@stephenholbrook4391 Am I disagreeing with you somehow?
@@jbaskinger I meant to post a public comment, not post a reply to you. Sorry.
Go Braves!
@@stephenholbrook4391 All good haha. Go Braves!
I wish you would have taken a moment more to explain that heat map rather than just show it for one second 9:04
The numbers listed are zip codes for the areas. I assume the red dots are where tickets are generally bought in a certain time frame. I think its meant to show that most tickets are bought by people north and outside of the city.
Cobb county is a hot bed of youth baseball. A lot of pro players have come from Cobb county, it is literally baseball crazy.
And, the Big Boss Man was from Cobb County too!
Dansby Swanson is a good example, he was raised and went to high school in Cobb county. Great player.
It goes to show that leadership matters. The Atlanta mayors could have built up Summerhill, addressed MARTA, and parking. Instead, they were lazy, incompetent, and corrupt.
That area is fine..in fact looks better than a giant Cobb county parking lot which is all Truist park basically has around it...plus they(braves) take all the revenues for that area...city of Atlanta got smart and said "skedaddle, and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you...begone beggars"!!!...You should google the area where the Braves used to play...Ga. State has really transformed that area...it's better than it ever was when the braves were there and just taking taking taking!!!
You do know Cobb county fired the CEO and one commissioner is under indictment for acts that took the Braves out of Atlanta. But go off bigot!
@@JuneBaby01 A giant Cobb County parking lot? Have you been to the Battery? Its great! There are so many things to do in the area for everyone in my family. We love it. Its far better than parking a half mile away from Turner Field and waiting 30 minutes to get back on the interstate after every game.
@@JuneBaby01 HAHAHA...someone has no clue as to what they speak and GA St didn't transform the Summerhill area, gentrification did.
@@JuneBaby01 it was a crime filled black getto when i went in 2000
As a Mets fan that had been to turner field it was hard to get to as a tourist.
The Atlanta mayor gave much more attention to the Falcons than he did the Braves. The Braves then went to Cobb where the Braves were welcomed with open arms.
No they weren’t! They fired the Cobb CEO over it😂
@@brejackal The move was a dumpster fire.
Kasim Reed wasn't a good mayor. The only negative I have about Truist Park is its lack of access to public transportation options. Imagine a rail line connected to the battery. Also, I want to make a nitpick regarding the limited reach of MARTA. MARTA isn't funded by GDOT, making expansion difficult. Also, losing the Falcons to the suburbs (which they were threatening) was why they were treated as a priority. Football>baseball
That's not reeds fault
And now hockey will end up in Forsyth County. This time, it will have a chance to succeed. Atlanta is a terrible sports city. Most people who live here are not from here, so they remain fans of teams from their previous location. The Braves are the exception.
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Atlanta is a great sports city.
#1 in attendance in MLS (out of 29 teams)
#5 in attendance in MLB (out of 30 teams)
#16 in attrndance in NFL (out of 32 teams; top half)
Hawks had near 100 percent capacity last season.
That's a Cobb county, not Atlanta issue. MARTA would love to go into Cobb county
@@connorjordan3551 hockey in Forsyth county will not succeed.
80% ticket holders live in north Georgia.. that was the no brainer to move north lol
Wish you called Ted Turner the "and at one point manager of the Braves"
I grew up in rural Ohio in the 1980s and 90s, and I remember the Atlanta Braves always being on TBS TNT they were my first favorite team. My love for the Indians or now Guardians runs deep, but Atlanta Braves will always have a place in my heart!
I grew up in the "forgotten borough" of NYC Staten Island as a Met fan and watched The Braves as well in the 80's and 90's. Also The Cubs on WGN. Did you get/watch The Cubs as well?
They allowed the people who owned the areas around Turner Field to put up apartments and Townhomes and didn’t act on the surrounding property. And the number one reason that they moved it is because of the complexion of the people who live there
As someone who went to the old Fulton county stadium, turner field and the new truist (formerly SunTrust) park- it's no comparison. The battery is amazing and draws massive amounts of people even on non-game nights. The city of Atlanta could have done that decades ago, but couldn't be bothered.
I hate going to truist park. Traffic is a nightmare. Parking is limited. No public transportation
It's INSANE that the only public transportation to Truist Park is a commuter bus that runs *maybe* every 30 minutes
Did you ever go to Fulton? Riding a bus to the game.
@@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath yes
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i live in a nearby city to cobb county called acworth and i regulary go to braves game my dad has raced the freeze,ive done the races on the field for teenagers its great bro!
Kasim turned around and gave the Hawks more money than the Braves were asking for.
As someone who attended Braves games regularly as a kid a Turner Field I loved it. Buttttttt the homeless camps around the stadium made it sketchy. My dad got robbed a half mile from Turner Field in the early 2000’s. The new Truist Park in Cobb is without a doubt a better fan experience and has been copied in other cities.
As someone who goes to 30+ games a year, the move to Marietta (Truist) was a blessing. Such a better location.
One funny part is that since the Braves organization moved out of the area, there has been massive amounts of development in the area.
The Battery is wonderful and a great place to go even if there isn't a game. Cobb County got it right.
Went to Truist Park this spring, the stadium is excellent. Great video!
As a Mets fan who got to visit truist park I must admit the battery was awesome ! And my experience at truist was fun especially with their museum. However I don’t drive so getting there was a pain in the ass. I had to take the train to a bus. The bus ride from the MARTA subway station was only about 25 minutes but just wish they had direct rail service there like is Mets fans have.
Atlanta/Fulton County Stadium was deliberately left out of the MARTA rail system because the city of Atlanta owned the stadium and didn’t want to miss out on the parking revenue. The rail line was drawn to go right down Peachtree Street until the Garnett station. Then it takes a wide swing to the west. Using MARTA to get to a Braves game meant having to wait on shuttle buses at both ends. Turner Field was a wonderful place to watch a baseball game, but so is Truist Park.
we used to have a great hack for getting to the braves game. We go to Linwood station, have a couple pre game beers at Taco Mac, hop on MARTA there at linwood and ride to little 5 points. They had Marta right there waiting to shuttle you to the front gate of the stadium. Worked perfect for us.
It would have been better if the city and STATE could have invested in Marta expansion to turner/Summer Hill. Waiting on the shuttle and walking through underground was a pain. The sad part now is that W & Atlantic railroad could simply be activated for regional rail and serve all of Cobb county. It runs behind Cumberland mall( which via pedestrian parks serve Truist), downtown vining's, the Marietta square, downtown Kennesaw, and downtown Smyrna.
I loved Turner Field but the parking at times was sketchy. The Truist Stadium and the Battery is awesome
I would love to see a long form video for the history of the tumultuous Arizona Coyotes
I live in Atlanta in 1991 when they got good. It was crazy. I remember being mad at my mom because she wouldn't let me get a tomahawk shaved in my hair. It was some special Supercuts was doing😂
Got to watch them play at Fulton County Stadium and Turner.
I went to the last playoff game in fulton county stadium and the olympics watching cuba play a game and the first braves game in turner field
I'm 24 I love hate relationship with this as a Braves fan because I will miss Turner Field but love the new stadium the only issue is how far the parking is compared to the old stadium
Yep! I’m 54 and attended all 3 stadiums. That was my main issue until I got season passes at Lot B11. It took me about 2 years to figure out the best lot to park. I’ve seen people have to stop and catch their breath walking to and from parking lots at Truist. Only one lot provides a shuttle. Turner parking was the best!
Old field wasn’t in best location. Pretty rough area around it. Just watch bait car and it’s in the background a bunch.
Turner field was literally in the hood
It also had no spirit
Traffic, neighborhood, and Mercedes are what ended Turner Field.
Out of context wifi brought up in the middle of Turner Field discussion as if wifi was a thing when it was built. Bye pop.
So many people making comments clearly don’t go to the games to see the dynamic. I am a 20+ year season ticket holder. I see more minorities at the new stadium than Turner and so many young people. The Braves are the professional sporting success. Also, plenty of people outside Metro Atlanta into surrounding states and beyond form Braves Country and attend games. Lastly, they own the development and finally built their own stadium.
Moving outside Fulton Co. was the best thing that could have happened to the Braves. The southern part of Atlanta is a shit show. If Georgia Tech could move their campus, they would have done it years ago. Cobb Co. is happy to host the Braves & the extra commute is well worth it. Thieves, we're in your car while you we're watching the game & Turner Field, after you paid a shaddy guy to park in an alloted area.
Smart move by the Braves to move out of that corrupt city to a place that will support them.
I mean Fulton county and Turner weren’t “Downtown”. And the area was a little rough. They move closer to their fan base, seems like a great move by the Braves. Someone from East Cobb who grew up in the 80’s would’ve loved this move to Cobb county then.
Retired my fan-ship to the Nationals when the Braves headed out of the city!
I didn’t know the details… it really didn’t matter.
The move marked the end of an era for me and I just thought it a good time to jump off the Fan-wagon.
They were no longer my neighborhood ball club.
BTW, I love the Summerhill explanation… NOT!!!
You need to decode it.
The braves owners Liberty Media? Not Turner chose to leave the city, turner didn't like the move
Pleas make a follow up video on how this stadium could easily have regional rail connected to it. the W & Atlantic railroad could simply be activated for regional rail and serve all of Cobb county. It runs behind Cumberland mall( which via pedestrian parks serve Truist), downtown vining's, the Marietta square, downtown Kennesaw, and downtown Smyrna. Makes for an amazing video to show that the railroad that is still in use today it why these cities were founded, and could simply be repurposed to serve the communities again.
The braves made a business decision. But the downtown area had to be improved. Specifically the project housing many of which I grew up in.
A true baseball fan doesn’t need an AMUSEMENT PARK to entice them to go to games. Thats for yuppies and little kids…
Long story short , they built a brand new stadium to get out of the hood where the other stadium was
The Braves moving out of Fulton County to Cobb County was absolutely the best move.
The Braves played in Turner Field from 1997-2016, inclusive. That's 20 years -- "not less than two decades."
Braves put their own vendors out of bidness see fans as competitors, g r e e d.
Turner was a great stadium, but right smack in the middle of crack houses and hundreds of vagrants. I used to park near the capital and walk 20 minutes to get there. It was very sketchy.
The city never did anything for the Braves. Then, once they left, the city put up guns of money. The state did, too.
Now, they are going to build a stadium for Georgia State baseball in the exact spot of Fulton County Stadium.
The new stadium was originally called SunTrust. Which was a bank that merged into what became Truist.
yup, last game I went to there in '97 I took 5 friends in my conversion van to see the Phillies, Braves lost 1-0 in 11 innings & my van was stolen! Been to Truist a few times, love that place much better even tho its an hour away from me {Covington}
Vagrants? You mean black Atlantians?
"Public servants" can leverage state run educational institutions for crony kickbacks. Construction contracts and service provider contracts all have palms being greased behind the scenes to fatten pockets. They probably would have had a harder time doing that to a MLB team.
Funny how the old Turner field is now a nice place thanks to Georgia State University and the demand for housing in the city.
Good video man! I know that it may no matter for you but there is an interesting story about the upcoming soccer World Cup and the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. I think many soccer fans would love to hear your thoughts about it
And we had to walk 30 minutes to our car and it took us another 30 minutes to get out of the parking lot. Benz Stadium is in the hood as well and they built a new stadium right there
Stan Kasten and parking had a lot to do with
It's nice be able to go to a game without worried about getting robbed, your car broke into, and begged for money by lazy lowlifes. I have many great memories at Turner, but also nany memories full of b.s. from the factors outside the stadium. Atlanta is a crap hole. All the teams would be wise to leave. Braves are the only one worth watching anyways.
Now Georgia State uses the stadium an businesses are popping all around that area.
I, for one, miss being accosted by all the bums in the parking lot when I attended games at Turner field. Truist Park lacks the same "diversity enrichment."
The MBS stadium wasnt because of Soccer, Atlanta united was just a piece of a bigger plan from Arthur blank
The Summer Hill “revitalization” he’s talking about is a cluster of dormitory apartments for Ga State University. It’s that one clustered gentrified center surrounded by the same hood, junkies, hookers and pimps it was before.
And a factor not really touched on was the Falcons new stadium deal. The deal included massive amounts of funding from the Falcons to the city for infrastructure upgrades and upkeep that the city had neglected for decades. It was a true fleecing of the Falcons. They should have moved out too.
But the demographics pointed out in the video are spot on. The bulk of Braves ticket buyers are on the north side.
I’ve lived both downtown near the stadium and in Cobb near the new stadium. The Braves made the right decision coming up to Cobb.
And the old Stadium now looks like something Scooby and the gang would solve a mystery in.
Boy are you right……just different borders, that’s all. Without state funds Georgia College is no more, so the whole thing depends on taxpayer and lottery player proceeds……pay up! 😮
9:16 thats my friends dad lol
So basically the Braves leaving downtown made the city more livable
Yes....and they no longer had to try and please a twisted organization...good riddance!
@@JuneBaby01 still chiming in like a dipshit huh?
No, it took years after the Braves left for the area to develop into anything. Gentrification had much more do with the area's "revitalization" than anything else did.
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It really was a win win.
This video was spot on!
Is there significant public transportation to Truist Park from Atlanta?
basically none :(
No, and that’s how we like it.
@@Khh_1977bigots have been blocking MARTA expansion since before we won the Olympics!
@@Khh_1977 In the DC area public transportation imports undesirables looking to cause trouble or "get away" with things.
Cobblinc bus that just gets stuck in traffic
They should've put it in Kennesaw as opposed to Marietta. Before you cry, Cumberland is South Marietta and you won't convince me otherwise
6:01 Umm not enough parking?
Yeah, quantity of parking was never an issue. It was simply no longer safe for patrons to be in the area.
I lived in a posh Marietta suburb in the 90s and early 2000s, and I can tell you for a fact that NOBODY wanted to go to Atlanta to see a Braves game. It was in an ugly crime-riddled area, traffic and parking were a disaster. One solution was to take MARTA (Metro Atlanta Rail Transit Authority) to the game, but MARTA, like BART in San Francisco, attracted dangerous people. My own city of Marietta strongly protested having MARTA stations built in our suburbs. So the Braves said "screw it", they built SunTrust (now Truist) in the posh suburbs of Marietta and now its fixed. I realize that the Mercedes Benz Stadium where the Falcons and Atlanta FC club play do decent numbers, but keep in mind, they only play once per week while the Braves play 81 games at home from late spring to early autumn. When it comes to selling season tickets, nobody wants to go to downtown Atlanta more than once per week.
The neighborhood around it is booming now. The parking lots turned into student housing. New bars & restaurants & grocery stores. Georgia State University is investing a lot into the neighborhood.
That's the state. The city didn't do shit
Buckhead is not a suburb
That whole argument about the surrounding area was a moot point. That area has been gentrified for quite awhile now
Braves are inly 10-15 minutes from downtown.
Not with traffic my man. It’s 30. Do you live in Atlanta???
Yeah, if you're driving in the middle of the night when nobody else is on the road...
@@jkol323 you are telling me you have never made that drive with no traffic?
@@cheeseborgors vast majority of the people heading to Truist aren't coming from downtown anyway.
One of the first things you learn about driving through Atlanta is the Downtown Connector is a parking lot most of the time.
This is bs. The Braves left Turner Field because they wanted all the revenue and the city told them hell no. So they coerced the residences in Cobb County - who didn't get to vote on it because the politicians already said yes - to agree that the Braves would own all the revenue sales and Cobb County would only get the retail surrounding the stadium which is the exact same excuse they're using to move from Turner Field when it was never important to them. Then Cobb County residents started shitting on everybody saying the Braves wanted to be closer to their "fan base". You all know what that means. So even when the Braves won the WS, nobody really gave a shit about it in Atlanta.
100. Their fanbase is mostly white up middle class. They didn't want them to come to the black community
well said...
@@JuneBaby01 hahaha
Atlanta didn't fail the Braves. I live here this city supported the team for years when they were a joke. When the new owners took over they wanted to move the team out to the suburbs, and they used crime around the stadium as an excuse. The new stadium has just as many car break-ins and robberies as the old one because there is no parking close to the stadium and you have to leave you vehicle a mile away. If was the mayor of Atlanta I would stop them using the name because they failed the city of Atlanta and left after all the city did for the team and it was not right. I would make them stop calling themselves Atlanta and make them use another name. By the way several people went to jail because of the crooked way they got the money for the new stadium in Smyrna Ga.
Shows how stupid and awful North American car centric environments are... You're surrounded by highways and you can't go anywhere.
The Braves abandoned Hank Aaron's Legacy and chose not to uplift the Black community in Summerhill that had serviced baseball in Atlanta for 50 years. Instead, in a great white flash, they ran north to their season ticket holders at the nexus of cheap highway property. Turner Field could've been the Battery, but at the end of the day, nobody working in the Front Office/playing for Braves actually lived in Fulton County, so that's why we visit Corn on the Cobb County if we want to enjoy Atlanta baseball.
Liberia needs à team, maybe they could put à stadium there. I would love to see everything done right for once. God knows we need an example of blacks making areas where whites flock to. Not gentrification in literally urban war zones. Make it happen!
Have you been to the battery? Diversity is alive and well. Just less crime do to police enforcement.
Yes, rhe Falcons getting all that funding was a precipitating factor, but please don't be ignorant to the role of race and socio-economics in this.
The lies about the commute or heavy traffic you have public transportation to Turner field, there’s no public transportation to Truist everything the brave said about this move was a lie. They just wanted to move the team into a white area.
So the answer was greed.
People who live in Atlanta will drive to Cobb county to buy gas. The crime is that bad in Atlanta. My brothers lives near Atlanta and stopped going to Brave's games because of the crime in the area.
I live in the middle of Atlanta and the perception of crime is definitely way worse than the actual crime
Most of the racist yts in Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee have been praying for Atlanta to fail, every since Sam Massell got kicked to the curb by Atlanta's black voters in the early 70's, and what a memorable time that was for Southern blacks...but the city continues to thrive, it gets better, and better, and better by the year...and y'all hate that sh!! with a passion, and they come to sites like this one to display ignorance and racism....lmao! Actually even with the all-state board of yt racists at the state capitol and they still can't derail the city...still winning!!!
How Uninspiring, Really!
Can the Atlanta Hawks move. TO ANOTHER STATE (i.e. Seattle), and the city just wait until the NBA awards to state with an expansion team???
The Atlanta Braves mangement is light-years ahead of the Atlanta Hawks management.
Ga st is a far better partner with the city than the braves ever were, the neighborhood has flourished since the braves have left, the braves only own the stadium in Cobb they don't own the battery 😅😅😅 and Cobb resistance are paying more taxes because of the braves so, thanks 😅😅😅😅😅😅
The neighborhood has “flourished” is a bit of an over statement. It was improved because the city finally put some money into it. Also The Atlanta Braves Holding company owns the battery. So you’re wrong 😂
@@Khh_1977 you obviously haven't been there 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 you obviously haven't, Atlanta is better off with the braves in Cobb Co, the braves are about to be spun off from liberty media 😅😅
@@jamesedwards7946 yeah never been there except for a couple dozen games and numerous other visits to the battery. The braves holding company owns the team and battery, and summer hill is still a turd, it’s just a polished turd.
@@Khh_1977 there's no comparison with what Ga St has done, 😅😅😅 the housing, shopping, new baseball stadium and basketball arena 😅😅😅, and the Gultch will make the battery look like a shopping mall 😅😅😅
@@jamesedwards7946 the gulch is by the Benz and State Farm, what are you even talking about 😂
25 seconds into the video, all I hear is lies. Not gonna go beyond that point.
Exactly. Why should we pay for stadiums for billionaires?
Now. I believe the Atlanta Braves is a publicly traded company.
Truist Financial Corporation Park (formerly known as SunTrust Banks, Inc. Park) is in a very nice area outside of the City of Atlanta. 👌
It sucks but it was warranted. The Braves are "THE TEAM of THE SOUTH," and Turner Field was not cutting it.
As egregious as it may seem, a black hood around a white market is not a good combination.
In the end, everything worked itself out 🤷🏾♂️
Except the Braves attendance in Truist park is about the same as it was when the Braves were in Turner field. When the Braves were contenders in Turner field they drew between 3 million to 3.4 million fans. In Trust Park the year they won the world series (2021) they drew 2.2 million, the next 2 seasons they have been at 3.1 million. So the idea that black hood in downtown Atlanta was keeping the fans away has proven to be false. The Braves however generate significantly more revenue in Cobb county, thanks to the Battery.
I’d never have a stadium in a Black hood or any ethnic hood, it’s just usually too dangerous, it’s actually one of the reasons the LA Rams moved from the Coliseum to Anaheim Stadium back in 1980. People don’t want to say the truth out loud but it’s just a fact.
@@trevinschaerr3732 Except that its not a fact its a belief.
When the LA Rams moved to Anaheim, their attendance initially was good, but then soon started to decline. The Rams started at 62k per game in 1980 (they had higher attendance in the Coliseum, but of course its a larger stadium), but by their last season in Anaheim before leaving for St.Louis (1994) the Rams attendance had dwindled down to only 42k per game. Proving the Rams playing in the black hood was not keeping their fans away, even less fans were going to see them in Anaheim.
It does seem to make sense, team playing in declining ethnic or minority neighborhood would be keeping fans away. But the attendance numbers when these teams move to the nicer more affluent areas do not support this belief. Example the NY Yankees who people said in the early 70's could not draw fans if they stayed in the Bronx because it was declining area. Their last season in the old stadium in 1973 they drew 1.2 million fans. Their 2 seasons in Queens, a nicer, safer area the Yankees still drew the same 1.2 million fans. Then in 1976 the Yankees moved back to their newly renovated stadium back in the black hood in the Bronx and drew over 2 million fans, almost doubling their attendance. The Yankees have gone on to have attendance that has exceeded 4 million in the black/latino hood in the Bronx. The idea that the 'black hood' neighborhood is the primary factor keeping fans away is completely unsupported. The more likely reason for keeping fans away besides a teams poor performance is the lack of convenient parking, road access, and mass transit.
@@jefflewis4
Turner Field seated 50,000 or so, that's why. Truist only seats atound 41,000.
@@willp.8120 Except that 41,000 is about what the average attendance in Turner Field was during their competitive years. Truist park is smaller because the Braves didn't like having 10,000 empty seats in Turner field every game. They wanted the park to appear more full. Truist Park's capacity just confirms the Braves knew moving to Cobb County would not result in a significant increase in attendance over what they were drawing at Turner field. If the Braves thought they would draw say an extra 2,000 fans per game over Turner field , wouldn't Truist's capacity be around 43,000 ?
bro turner field was so dogshit
I parked behind the Taco Bell with ZERO ISSUES. This was a bullshit move based on white flight. Turner Field was great…
Hence WHY they moved out of the city of Atlanta and moved to my hometown/county Cobb county...literally 4 miles East of the house! 🙌🏾 (Go Spartans)
In the comments i am noticing a racist trend that white flight was a leading issue. Apparently these folks have never been to cobb county or the stadium. Diversity is alive and well, Cobb County just keeps it safe for all families.
This video man🤦🏾♂️
The Braves have earned much respect. It is time to give it what it's entitled to.
It was a shady move by the Braves, becUse Tace was a factor too.. don't forget that... the Braves played in the same exact area since 1966 thru 2016, so you telling me the owners had issue now(then 2013)??? They full of crap
I hate the new stadium. It is like something created by a board of directors somewhere else than Atlanta. It is not something organic made by people.
In simple terms The braves moved to accommodate rich White folks in the north of the city
that demographic seems to make up most braves fans anyways lol
@@ashvijhosdurg9030 pis poor excuse, braves fans from all over the south
Don’t blame the Braves go to where most of your money comes from. Black folks still have the Hawks and Falcons anyway.
@@trevinschaerr3732 😆 Braves wanted a excuse to leave, they picked the worse traffic area of Atlanta to build a stadium.. and basically fractured the fanbase
@@riccorich They should’ve had a Marta stop. This is why the Atlanta metro will never reach its potential.
Baseball is primarily a sport for older white conservative fans, and those people are not in downtown Atlanta.