The Color temperature is vastly different and as a huge distraction to the comparison. It'd be great to at least calibrate them before testing. Also compare things like black level would be great.
Making it easier and easier to get a projector in you place... I think these are really going to take off in the coming years. I don't think they will take over long throw projectors, but these definitely have a place in the market. Great video comparing the 2 you've seen Michael
Great posting, really like the reviews! Any news on getting the new Benq V6000/6100 for a similar review. Maybe a comparison of all three projectors. Thanks
Hello YOUTHMAN 🙋🏻♂️. Thank you for another great video review . I have to say that this projector is impressive and not too expensive . I can’t wait to see your new toy . God bless you brother . See you in the next one .
Not even close between the two - but shouldn't be for the different price points. Vava definitely gets a lot of praise on slickdeals - but to a fanboyish level. Seems decent but not great for price point to be honest. Definitely impressive for a lesser known brand though.
Search Vava on indiegogo and read comments there. These comments are from real world users, using it for a period of time. If you are an average Joe then this might give an indication of expectation.
The main difference is the chipset, Which means the native resolution is higher on the LG and uses 2 phase upscale compared to the dmd vava chipset that’s native resolution is 1080 and uses 4 phases to meet 4K standards, both use pixel shifting
Just curious if you applied the new update to the VAVA to compare now and used the suggested settings? Picture of settings - photos.app.goo.gl/ih46WeEHs8HrsBiD9
Nice post thank you!I have a Xioami 4k UST and after some amateur caliberation on a ALR screen it seems pretty decent at a lower price point!Your views on that if you may!Stay safe!Stay healthy!
how is compared to xiaomi Mi, I have had the Mi for about a year or more and it has been amazing. So much so I am thinking of adding one more but stubbled on this VAVA. I had a LG short throw HF65la before I went to Mi and Mi was so much superior.
The colors on the LG seemed horrible. Way too enhanced. The flower (the bee was on) was red on the LG and yellow on the Vava. One of them or both is way way way off color wise. The water waves looked way better on the LG. Were either of these given a basic calibration?
Yea I noticed that myself... Just from my experience trying to capture projection images on camera, it's really hard to get a true representation of what you are seeing in person. Interested to see what Michael's thoughts were on the colors of the LG in person.
There are MANY variables to make a filmed image look good. Color levels, saturation, brightness, contrast, and the color temperature of the video playing, as well as those on the projector, and settings on the camera used for filming need to be calibrated to get the ideal image representation. There is certainly an art to it.
Images on the LG look over sharpened and over blown, the colors on the LG are more on the red side. The VAVA looks more natural imho. The LG looks like it has a higher peak brightness but that can be due to the settings used.
Completely watchable meaning it's bright enough even with a good amount of ambient light in the room. LG would be the better option for sure. You just have to decide if it's worth twice the cost to you.
Really? That's news to me. Where's my paycheck? Regarding your assumption, neither LG nor VAVA has EVER paid me. Yup...ZERO. Likewise, I did not get to keep either unit after the review. They were shipped back after the review period. All sponsored videos on my channel are CLEARLY stated within the first minute of the video and also disclosed in the description of the video. In the future, be careful making assumptions. You know the saying... Thanks for watching.
You are welcome to believe whatever you want. I can assure you my integrity, character, and my faith as a Christian means far more to me than any dollar amount that I will make on any sponsored video. If you want to believe that I was paid by LG to make a video where I would purposefully “rig” the comparison so that they would look better, you clearly do not know me as a person, nor do you know how reviews work. But just to enlighten you, when a company sends me a product, they give me no instructions, no demands, no suggestions. I’ll make whatever amount of content I want on the product. I can choose to make a single review, I can make an a in boxing if I choose, I can make a comparison video of it and another product that I happen to have in for review at the same time. LG didn’t even know I had the VAVA in for review. Have a blessed day
I feel like that was likely the LG being left on vivid. those colors were way too saturaturated. It has the better laser system so i have to imagine it has the ability to be more accurate. wish there had been a better side by side capable because i have the same questions
He was biased.Most likely paid by LG to do a comparison.VAVA 4K is 6000 lumens while LG HU 85 is just 2700 lumens.Most comparisons done by other reviewers has proved that VAVA was twice brighter, sharper and more color accurate than LG.The only advantage LG has over VAVA was input lag @55ms against VAVA's 107ms.LG performs poorly in brighter rooms compared to VAVA 4k which its brighter lamp allows it to be view-able in brighter rooms.
Do you know of any demonstrations of pink noise before and after of the screen covering the speakers vs the screen missing? I'm curious to hear a phase inversion of the two pink noise tracks to hear what is different!
No but if you look on their website, they have done measurements and the slight attenuation you get on the top end from an AT screen you can easily fix by running Audyssey
Man, I don't know if your picture comparisons are so accurate or so far off. BOTH the Vava and the LG looked terrible. LOL. I am looking at a UST because our HT watching will be moving from from a spare room(like, half dedicated HT) to main living room open to kitchen. I just started researching and after seeing that side by side comparison it makes me want to just bite the bullet and mount my current Sony HW45ES to the ceiling and be done with it. I worry any UST isn't going to compare to it. We will use a TV for most viewing but 110-120 screen with projector for movie night(mostly dark) and sporting events(probably decent amount of ambient light).
I’m glad to see projector reviews here. My epson 5030ub is about to die (a few vertical cyan bars on screen) and I’m about to upgrade it for a 4k projector. My interest is for either the upcoming Optoma UHD50X or the Optoma CinemaX P1. I would love to see you reviewing those. Thanks for sharing.
No I'm not biased. I had to uninstall one projector and setup the other projector for the comparison. I would be glad to check out your comparison video though.
Most consumers are going to purchase an ultra short throw projector and set it up without any calibration. This is a side-by-side comparison showing the differences.
@@Youthman I am inclined to agree. Customers are somewhat lazy. No reading the manual or tweaking their gear to deliver truth. Still show the capability fairly as an expert. Give lazy buyers something to strive for.
Yes, the VAVA offers a good value but it definitely is not as clear and vivid as the LG. Check out the HiSense I just reviewed. I liked it more than the VAVA - th-cam.com/video/fLPdNP5JEJU/w-d-xo.html
This is awesome, I saw these awhile ago and wondered how a huge sub a few feet from something like this would affect the screen. Guess I'm about to find out, you better send it in this video!
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The Color temperature is vastly different and as a huge distraction to the comparison. It'd be great to at least calibrate them before testing. Also compare things like black level would be great.
Making it easier and easier to get a projector in you place... I think these are really going to take off in the coming years. I don't think they will take over long throw projectors, but these definitely have a place in the market. Great video comparing the 2 you've seen Michael
Vava has a notorious blue tint that can be minimized by selecting "Warm" in the settings
it has bad image color even consider it has much blue tint
Can you compare LG hu85la with Samsung premiere.
Does it start up fast? Go vava vroom? Sorry. I'll sit back down now.
There is warmth color setting on the Vava. It will make the picture less blue. Maybe then it is a better comparison.
VAVA seems blurry next to the lg. Is it projecting a 4k or a1080p image?
What would you rather have?
LG (HU80KA) lazer 4k or older higher end sony ( vw95es) 1080p?
I guess if they could squeeze a pair of 18" subs in to that little box, it would be a bit better? Great review. As always.
Nice review! I am intrigues by these short throw projectors. Is this only 16:9 aspect n you adjust to CinemaScope also? Thanks Youthman.
Hello, would you please review the Samsung LSP7T?
I wait for epson ust projector come out
Great posting, really like the reviews!
Any news on getting the new Benq V6000/6100 for a similar review. Maybe a comparison of all three projectors.
Thanks
Hello YOUTHMAN 🙋🏻♂️. Thank you for another great video review . I have to say that this projector is impressive and not too expensive . I can’t wait to see your new toy . God bless you brother . See you in the next one .
Thank you.
Youthman you welcome my Brother 🙋🏻♂️
Plz plz make a video on side by side comparison between Samsung Lsp9t vs Vava chroma plz plz plz
I would like to pair the VAVA to a Stewart Studiotek Video Refernce Screen 155 inch curved. What are your thoughts ?
Great video and this may in my future plans!
I'm dream in a Laser projection to use lika a monitor!
Hi sir, does vava project more than 150"..bcz I want 180"-200"..does it project upto 200"...
It is not budget friendly tf?
Any way to color correct the Vava to make it look more like the output of the LG?
Not sure. Video calibration isn’t my strong suit.
Not even close between the two - but shouldn't be for the different price points. Vava definitely gets a lot of praise on slickdeals - but to a fanboyish level. Seems decent but not great for price point to be honest. Definitely impressive for a lesser known brand though.
How dark is your room when it’s on ? I want to know cause my projector makes mine really bright and I hate that. I want that movie theatre feel.
Is the jmgo s3 any good i am waiting for someone to guide me which is best lg is out my budget.
It’s what I’m looking for but the black version but I found it for less then 2700, found it for 2100
Search Vava on indiegogo and read comments there. These comments are from real world users, using it for a period of time. If you are an average Joe then this might give an indication of expectation.
The main difference is the chipset, Which means the native resolution is higher on the LG and uses 2 phase upscale compared to the dmd vava chipset that’s native resolution is 1080 and uses 4 phases to meet 4K standards, both use pixel shifting
Which laser projector is true 4k and doesn’t use pixel shifting ?
Just curious if you applied the new update to the VAVA to compare now and used the suggested settings? Picture of settings - photos.app.goo.gl/ih46WeEHs8HrsBiD9
Nice post thank you!I have a Xioami 4k UST and after some amateur caliberation on a ALR screen it seems pretty decent at a lower price point!Your views on that if you may!Stay safe!Stay healthy!
Thanks. I have not seen the Xioami
@@Youthman try and get hold of one would love to see your review on it!
did you look into the optoma ultra short thro projector
I do not have a marketing contact yet for them.
@@Youthman i know you have a 3lcd projector but what do you think about dlp because i am looking at a optima laser dlp for my first projector
I’m confused between this projector and benq HT5550 which one is better for home theater please help
I have not reviewed any BenQ projectors
Youthman oh okay have you seen any Rainbow effects with VAVA ?
You pretty much sold me, now to get thecwife to watch so I can sell her!
Good luck with that
Does it have HDCP 2.2?
That side-by-side comparison with the LG was very helpful to see. The LG is definitely better... but 2x better? Meh. Probably not.
Yeah, law of diminishing returns.
Looking forward to that NX7 video :) :) :) :)
Me too!
How much would a replacement ALPD 3.0 laser light tech cost?
With +20K hours of use before needing replacement..... You could run it 24/7 for nearly 3 years before needing to replace it. (in theory).
How does this projector, and the LG compare to your Epson?
I can’t imagine it’s even close to as good... Maybe the LG is.
I have t done any direct side by side but both the Epson and LG perform very well.
how is compared to xiaomi Mi, I have had the Mi for about a year or more and it has been amazing. So much so I am thinking of adding one more but stubbled on this VAVA. I had a LG short throw HF65la before I went to Mi and Mi was so much superior.
Which MI projector you are using? which version?
Maybe add a video comparison with lg with vava on warm
These projectors were return to the manufactures a long time ago after the reviews
Very nice image.
I just literally ordered this projector on their site this morning. #quarantined
It seems the LG has a more color accurate picture.
The bee 🐝 in LG was red! Told me any bee is red instead of yellow.
Most people switch to "warm" in the settings to take away the blue tint
The colors on the LG seemed horrible. Way too enhanced. The flower (the bee was on) was red on the LG and yellow on the Vava. One of them or both is way way way off color wise. The water waves looked way better on the LG. Were either of these given a basic calibration?
Yea I noticed that myself... Just from my experience trying to capture projection images on camera, it's really hard to get a true representation of what you are seeing in person. Interested to see what Michael's thoughts were on the colors of the LG in person.
There are MANY variables to make a filmed image look good. Color levels, saturation, brightness, contrast, and the color temperature of the video playing, as well as those on the projector, and settings on the camera used for filming need to be calibrated to get the ideal image representation. There is certainly an art to it.
Images on the LG look over sharpened and over blown, the colors on the LG are more on the red side. The VAVA looks more natural imho. The LG looks like it has a higher peak brightness but that can be due to the settings used.
Thanks. These were out of the box settings. Some of those could be corrected through proper calibration.
Completely watchable is not good enough ! I’ll wait to save some extra money and buy the LG
Completely watchable meaning it's bright enough even with a good amount of ambient light in the room. LG would be the better option for sure. You just have to decide if it's worth twice the cost to you.
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The LG color just committed a murder.
R.I.P. Vava 4K UST
If only you could have compared the LG to the Sony
Didn’t have a Sony to compare it to.
Guys dont get the lg because of this video!! He was paid by lg to promote it.
Really? That's news to me. Where's my paycheck?
Regarding your assumption, neither LG nor VAVA has EVER paid me. Yup...ZERO. Likewise, I did not get to keep either unit after the review. They were shipped back after the review period.
All sponsored videos on my channel are CLEARLY stated within the first minute of the video and also disclosed in the description of the video.
In the future, be careful making assumptions. You know the saying...
Thanks for watching.
Youthman oh ya? Then y was the lg on vivid and the vava on standard??
You are welcome to believe whatever you want. I can assure you my integrity, character, and my faith as a Christian means far more to me than any dollar amount that I will make on any sponsored video.
If you want to believe that I was paid by LG to make a video where I would purposefully “rig” the comparison so that they would look better, you clearly do not know me as a person, nor do you know how reviews work.
But just to enlighten you, when a company sends me a product, they give me no instructions, no demands, no suggestions. I’ll make whatever amount of content I want on the product. I can choose to make a single review, I can make an a in boxing if I choose, I can make a comparison video of it and another product that I happen to have in for review at the same time. LG didn’t even know I had the VAVA in for review.
Have a blessed day
Man, the colors are COMPLETELY different; which one is more accurate?
I feel like that was likely the LG being left on vivid. those colors were way too saturaturated. It has the better laser system so i have to imagine it has the ability to be more accurate. wish there had been a better side by side capable because i have the same questions
I have the same question. How can you make a comparison video and not answer the most basic question?
He was biased.Most likely paid by LG to do a comparison.VAVA 4K is 6000 lumens while LG HU 85 is just 2700 lumens.Most comparisons done by other reviewers has proved that VAVA was twice brighter, sharper and more color accurate than LG.The only advantage LG has over VAVA was input lag @55ms against VAVA's 107ms.LG performs poorly in brighter rooms compared to VAVA 4k which its brighter lamp allows it to be view-able in brighter rooms.
@@moronasswipe5605 vaba 2400 Ansi lumens! boy
@@moronasswipe5605 Can you tell me it be ceiling mounted? Please and Thank you!
Hello very good afternoon l have a question VaVa can reproduce Dolby Vision and Dolby atmos connected to a Sony ubp-x1100es?
CANT WAIT for VAVA CHROMA NEXT MONTH , thats what i gonna get
I will be getting it in for review
@@Youthman
cant wait , i am getting for $2800/%40 off the retail price in launch day ..is gonna be $5000 this time around..thats crazy Jump
Do you know of any demonstrations of pink noise before and after of the screen covering the speakers vs the screen missing? I'm curious to hear a phase inversion of the two pink noise tracks to hear what is different!
No but if you look on their website, they have done measurements and the slight attenuation you get on the top end from an AT screen you can easily fix by running Audyssey
Mines just updated and now supports 3D. Can't wait to try it out
Review the optoma p1 please
Man, I don't know if your picture comparisons are so accurate or so far off. BOTH the Vava and the LG looked terrible. LOL. I am looking at a UST because our HT watching will be moving from from a spare room(like, half dedicated HT) to main living room open to kitchen. I just started researching and after seeing that side by side comparison it makes me want to just bite the bullet and mount my current Sony HW45ES to the ceiling and be done with it. I worry any UST isn't going to compare to it. We will use a TV for most viewing but 110-120 screen with projector for movie night(mostly dark) and sporting events(probably decent amount of ambient light).
It's not accurate doing comparisons without calibration.
Sure
I’m glad to see projector reviews here. My epson 5030ub is about to die (a few vertical cyan bars on screen) and I’m about to upgrade it for a 4k projector. My interest is for either the upcoming Optoma UHD50X or the Optoma CinemaX P1. I would love to see you reviewing those. Thanks for sharing.
Plz plz make a video on side by side comparison between Samsung Lsp9t vs Vava chroma plz plz plz
Unfortunately I do not have either one of those Projectors to compare
@@Youthman ohh it's ok
bloody hell which one has the accurate colors or both r hopeless
Yeah ... LG ... hands down
Wish you touched more on actual picture quality comparisons. If the LG can justify the extra cost based on your opinion.
Everyone’s “Is it worth it” is different
Unfair comparison here. Why one pic is bigger than the other ? Compare exactly the same images at the same time. Are you biased?
No I'm not biased. I had to uninstall one projector and setup the other projector for the comparison. I would be glad to check out your comparison video though.
If you don’t have lg projector don’t compare with it 👋
I'm not sure what your comment means. The Hisense L9G can easily compare to it, if not beat it - th-cam.com/video/cUM1hmAvDoA/w-d-xo.html
Are you ok? I’m talking about lg hu85la, don’t drink too much please
Well considering your first sentence isn’t a complete sentence, you might be the one drinking lol
Great vid but I think you should off compare the vava vs the optoma P1 I think there are more close in price
Thanks, I don't have an Optoma in for review to compare.
You sucker punched the vava in the side by side. It can be adjusted to show true colors. That was a bit low.
Most consumers are going to purchase an ultra short throw projector and set it up without any calibration. This is a side-by-side comparison showing the differences.
@@Youthman I am inclined to agree. Customers are somewhat lazy. No reading the manual or tweaking their gear to deliver truth. Still show the capability fairly as an expert. Give lazy buyers something to strive for.
I have begun to include that in the last two UST reviews encouraging a calibration disk like Disney WOW or Spears and Munsel
In the review footage, the Vava image does look very soft next to the LG. Did it seem less sharp in real life as well?
Yes, the VAVA offers a good value but it definitely is not as clear and vivid as the LG. Check out the HiSense I just reviewed. I liked it more than the VAVA - th-cam.com/video/fLPdNP5JEJU/w-d-xo.html
This is awesome, I saw these awhile ago and wondered how a huge sub a few feet from something like this would affect the screen. Guess I'm about to find out, you better send it in this video!
Good question but no reply
@@MM13forlife never did find out either...