Thanks for watching and remember to SUBSCRIBE!! And remember to drink more water, hydration is important 💧 Also, something I learned immediately after I uploaded, is that every character in Minecraft (including Steve, including the animals), are ALL specifically designed to be Non-Binary
Slight side note about Shiver, so far the only person who has said that Shiver is female is an SVP of Nintendo of America, named Nate Bihldorf. The significance of it being him specifically is that he was also on the team responsible for censoring that Vivian the witch in a PURPLE dress from Paper Mario is trans-femme in the NA English localizations
i think we'll just wait for the game to come out, and for somebody to read and translate the Japanese text to read the original message and the idea accompanying
@@ASHtheSLUGCAT we don't **need** representation, but it's, like, nice to have, yknow? cis peeps might not get excited about representation, but that's cause they have always had it. they don't really know how it feels to have little to no representation in media. we get excited about stuff like this, because we're finally getting *something*
One thing about Shiver and the Binder you mentioned. There's a traditional form of binding a chest in japan that both men and women have did called "Sarashi". It was done by Samurai to resist injury and woman when wearing a Kimono to present a slender figure. I heard from some friends it was sometimes used as basically a Bra. I wouldn't really call it a Binder personally but it certainly can be used as one. Just thought this trivia was neat and wanted to share it. Have fun with Splatoon 3!
@@productionscrub8476 Yeah. That's true. I just wanted to share a fun fact and didn't consider if people would actually try this without doing their own research.
@@productionscrub8476 I think that's with the elastic medical bandages that are bad but it's safe with bandages that have no elasticity at all and can be used like strips of clothed wrappings iirc.
9:02 Actually Shiver is wearing a sarashi, not a binder. Sarashi is a piece of cloth that's traditionally used when you are going to wear some type of traditional japanese clothing. Nowadays using a Sarashi that's exposed it's usually associated with criminal or rebellious characters.
@Aburner1109 yeah they really did an order vs chaos splatfest and expected the *playerbase of splatoon* to have an even split. Like, what the fuck would an order themed splatoon game even be??? (also sidenote, I'm fighting for present in the upcoming past/present/future shebang because I feel it's the philosophically correct choice, but I think they added the squid sisters sponsoring team past so it's not just the 15 people who want more single player lore next game on that team lol)
As someone who spent several years denying their gender because of assuming that people would "just know" they are trans/NB, I feel like it's important to note that not all trans/NB people are immediately aware of their gender (or lack thereof). If you are questioning your relationship with gender, it's is important to do research on gender and identities to best understand yourself
Strong second! I assumed as much for many years because I had only been aware of one very rigid definition of what gender dysphoria is, and things I have said while 100% believing I was cis include "My quality of life would be better if my body was on a 24-hour hormone cycle instead of a monthly one" and "Having boobs sucks low-key, not really worth it you lucky you don't gotta deal with that shit" (to a cis man) and "pregnancy is a body horror nightmare. Even if abortions were free and easy I'd rather die than know that I have been pregnant" (and knew I wouldn't have kids since I was four 0_o) and I thought that since the bleeding part of my cycle didn't cause major trauma it couldn't possibly make me dysphoric (even though that's the half of the month I function worse and find it almost impossible to bathe regularly) Plus I have almost never been able to self-inserting in media as female, and unless I'd made a character as close as possible to my physical body, I always choose male avatars in games Mostly I just wanna put it out there that if you have random unexplained depersonalization/derealization symptoms that you just can't quite put your finger on the cause, that could be a way gender dysphoria presents (please excuse my decompression rant, I found out last week and I should have realized a long long time ago ):
Strong third, generally you should just play around with presentation and find what feels the most correct, or realise that all of it kinda sucks (like I did) and just live in constant confusion that people do have any inherent meaning of what gender even is, come to terms with the fact that you kinda exist outside of all that, and just be a happy lil person that no one knows understands just by being looking at :D
Undertale and Deltarune is an odd example because there's actually some debate in the games' fandom over whether the human characters are meant to be gender-ambiguous blank slates or if they are specifically intended to be nonbinary. Proponents for the latter note how these characters start off seeming like standard silent protagonists to project onto, but are later revealed to have their own distinct personality traits and thoughts, so them being nonbinary would serve as a *subversion* of gender-ambiguous blank slates.
For kris specifically I feel like we can say they use they/them pronouns atleast, because unlike frisk their life before we see them isnt ambiguous. Kris is their own person and everyone in the world that has known them for a while refers to them as such, they're only a "blank slate protagonist" after we take over as we see their save file being overwritten by our own
@@Hario338 Agreed. With Undertale the blank slate debate is understandable and more of a side thing; with Deltarune it feels like Kris being a subversion of blank slate protagonists is the whole point. The game isn't subtle about it. I've had debates with people with other viewpoints and their arguments always got a bit absurd once all the evidence was laid out.
I believe Toby Fox actually corrected people who use pronouns other than they/them (usually he/him, I wonder why...) so I think it's safe to say they're definitively nb, however for Frisk, I'd say it's a bit more ambiguous whether they're ambiguous or non binary
@@Trashley652 or maybe hes just cashing in on a rabid fanbase by going along with it ive learned if you make a game and put a rainbow flag in it and pretend to have pronouns the lgbt fanbase you amass will literally lick your arse clean the worlds best selling bible app was made by a atheist lol
Another thing to note is that non binary people can still use he/him or she/her pronouns, or they can have multiple sets of pronouns they're ok with. So English Kirby could still be nb, just using he/him pronouns.
@@elnkianni3466 Gender isn't about the titles. It's about identifying the self, which can be done in an unlimitted amount of ways. Expression and titles(names, pronouns, etc) can be factors in how one identifies themselves, but neither of those are requirements to any degree, and because of that everyones experience may differ. That goes for Cisgender, transgender, non-binary and whatever identities. So the "point" is to do whatever you do that helps you identify yourself. The labels are there to help us, not keep us boxed in.
I feel like Apex does diversity in general perfectly. Just like you said near the end of the video, their characters that are part of the LGBTQ community or a minority are never shown off for their gender, sexuality or race. Hell I didn't even know a lot of the characters were gay or non-binary until I looked it up. But the fact I loved the characters without knowing shows that the representation was done right and wasn't something they they used as leverage to improve their character. Just my two cents.
This, wholeheartedly, is how it should be done. Make a good character and then don't label them. Let people find out themselves through the character's actions, dialogue, etc. If you want to normalize that sort of identity or group, you cannot make them standout as being different.
@@bentowers3614 Hmmm. I take issue with this approach. While it's of course good for characters to be fully fleshed out despite their identities, pretending like you're not allowed to openly acknowledge or focus on their identity isn't really the solution imo. The truth is, the groups you're referring to ARE different. And accepting that doesn't immediately make the story bad. It's possible to have good characters whilst also not letting their identities get sidelined. This kind of logic completely erases the possibility of having stories solely focused on the identities of marginalized people. These stories are valuable because they remind us of the very real differences that exist between folks of different racial/sexual/gender identities. Not every story needs to do this obviously but simply saying we should just make no effort to acknowledge the differences doesn't really help.
To me that's the issue though. For me, personally, I think Apex simply overdoes it. Putting representation in is fine, but does a game with like 25 characters need a non-binary, a trans, an autistic, an ADHD, a gay, a lesbian, a pansexual, a bisexual, an unsure, another lesbian, and a near perfect 50/50 split in gender all at once? If the idea is realistically representing people, it's not right. And why does the one Indian character need to look and sound stereotypically Indian if they're half British? Why are they British and Indian at all if humanity has been mingling in spaceships and on other planets? Are the ships racially segregated? Apex clearly does it for brownie points and I think it's far too obvious to seem genuine anymore. I'm not a fucking medal to be put on a wall of virtue signalling, I don't even necessarily want to be represented a lot. It's marketing. To clarify, I don't think the Devs necessarily don't mean it, but at the end of the day the person approving these changes is running a business and that business is to sell in-game purchases to as many people as possible. I just want a game that's fun. Make all the characters straight for all I care, I don't give a shit as long as the gameplay is enjoyable.
@@bromo8874 I think what they was getting at is just don’t make it everything they are. Like it’s their personality, character development and or reason for being is lbgtq. I also see what you are saying to though so I don’t know lol
Fr, it’s annoying when movies & shows got nothing to offer but fill it with extremely gay/trans/whatever with flashy very LGBT-themed outfits like it’s the pride parade outside. I’m getting tired of it.. you’re here to watch a movie, not a “day in the life of an oppressed minority” documentary. TED-ed did enough of those.
Honestly Shiver's situation is bizarre because you could make the argument that her being confirmed as cis is yet another way Nintendo of America isn't being true to the original Splatoon localizations. The person that deconfirmed Shiver as some brand of non-binary was just one guy, and allegedy some people have gotten replies from other NoA representatives that claim Shiver IS meant to be non-binary. It might just be me coping but it's weird that every single localization (barring Portuguese) went out of its way to never refer to Shiver with pronouns or gendered language in her introduction, even in languages like French or Spanish where you REALLY have to put in work to refer to someone with gender ambiguity. If the intent was to always keep her cis all that effort just seems misplaced (and a tad queerbaity.) All in all though Shiver would look good in purple, I wonder how splatfest colors will look on her.
I can't explain why her gender was never confirmed in any of the translations but I've been under the impression that all the idols and agents were canon females so I just kinda assumed most people would think Shiver would be female. I guess Big Man breaks that streak but he's more of a mascot than an idol.
@@suwuicidal nah, it’s a trio, Big Man even has his own team; and Big Man is the first male idol, He’s making waves. Put some respect on Big Man’s name
As much as I would've loved Shiver being an enby character, it was to be expected that Nintendo wouldn't commit to the idea, I do have to say that the fact that pronoun usage being avoided in tons of languages might've been a bit 'sus', but maybe it was our own fault and we maybe looked a bit too much into it, building tons of expectations and then blaming Nintendo -but can we really blame ourselves? representation is lacking, and we are starving..
@@jellopuffy2974 This likely the case. I looked back at the introductions we received for the other idols, and in their own self introducing dialogue, they rarely used pronouns either. The introduction we received in the direct for Deep Cut, all three of them avoided pronouns. Does that mean Frye and Big Man are non-binary? Why is it only Shiver? People are just looking way too into it to find scraps that aren't there. Honestly, the best way to properly represent non-binary types in games is to never call them non-binary. Just have them be a normal, honest-to-goodness, character like any other. Write their actions and dialogue to let the viewer decide on their non-binarinism, as opposed to forcing it out of a misguided desire to appease a mass that rarely touches that media to begin with.
Kris from Deltarune is def nonbinary, because a major point of that games plot is how Kris is their own person, and we as the player are taking control. So all the other characters referring to Kris with they/them pronouns is definitely because those are the pronouns Kris uses, and not because they are meant to be a blank slate character. Purple
the whole lancer fanclub/fun gang/whatever you call them goofy trio of heroes are literally made of gender defying characters, why would it not include the edgy nonbinary kid?
@@ZeusMakesDoodles yes this, along with other things that point to it, show how we as the player are controlling Kris during the game as the soul. Which is why its obvious that Kris uses they/them pronouns due to everyone using those for Kris. You should not use he/him pronouns when referring to Kris as those are the wrong ones
A game that has non binary characters would be one called Gnosia, a social deduction game that has two of them. It's a game that works kind of like the usual werewolf or mafia games but it's set in space, got a cool cast and a wacky story.
@@otherlego ... yeah, pretty much. RNG decides which characters you see in each playthrough, and who are gnosia, beings that disguise themselves as humans and feel compelled to kill humans. Which could potentially include you. The whole game takes place in a spaceship, the goal is to get rid of the gnosia, if you're a human, or eradicate humans if you're a gnosia. Aside from that, it works like a basic Social Deduction Game, other than the fact that everyone else is an NPC. You discuss during the day who to send to cryosleep, and during the night you can talk to people to form alliances or confirm suspicions. Once that's done, anyone with a special role uses their special action, and it's on to the next day, with at least one new corpse. Rinse and Repeat.
Pokemon's adamancy on making sure the protagonists have gender has been weird to me, especially in Scarlet and Violet. They wear the same outfit and there isn't a rival with the other protagonist whether yours is wearing orange or purple, but they make sure you know that there are two of them and one is a *boy* and the other is a *girl* .
The whole world and it's history does not revolve around gender neutrality. Gender is also a fairly new word and concept so it's no surprise why they'd never bother with it.
I'm sure that Pokemon will include non-binary characters as soon as they figure out how to exploit them for profit (the only driving force in the capitalist machine).
Random things to note as a person who obsesses over the Xenoblade series: Xenoblade 2 did also have a seemingly nonbinary character in the form of Roc. Much like Juniper, Roc being neither male nor female is backed up by in-game gender values (which for Roc is set to the number 4). Unfortunately Roc gets barely any focus, let alone character development (because the Blade System leads to bland, one-note characters that can't do anything outside of their Drivers) but hey, at least Roc isn't a walking stereotype. Roc is Roc. Always has been; always will be.
In the claw machine that is the gaming industry, you don't get too many gender queer characters per pull. It's nice to see that highlighted and commentated on, especially by professional TH-camr and home invader Captain Astronaut.
Speaking of purple, really happy that you mentioned Floofy from Bugsnax!! They're one of my fav examples of enby representation ^ ^ None of the other characters take their gender into question or misgender them. It's treated as completely normal and it's great! Plus, I love that they're just kinda problematic. Non-binary characters can be a little mean. As a treat
I'm also an enby, and seeing a list of enbies in video games is validating. Kirby and Testament are my favorites on this list. My favorite color is Cyan, specifically aquamarine, but Purple, specifically lavender, is my second favorite color
tbh I'm not really too bothered by Shiver not being nb, I'm just happy we got to get a good androgynous woman design that isn't just "kinda buff girl in a grey tanktop with a goofy ahh haircut" again
Purple is genuinely my favorite color because society hasn't declared it masculine or feminine: it is the color of royalty. As someone studying game development, character customization can be difficult if gender options (or lack there of) are attempted to be retroactively made fluid. However, developing from the ground up with fluidity in mind can save a lot of hassle in the long run regardless, so long as there are accommodations for customizable traits (sliders are a blessing). Respect game dev's declarations of character's gender & sexuality. I know it's not directly related to non-binary characters, but Bridget. Testament was a straight-forward and well-done evolution of the character from He/Him to They/Them. Conversely, Bridget went from being born He/Him to dressed and conformed to She/Her, to actively defying said conformity by declaring themselves as He/Him, before later re-actualizing their identity as She/Her. It's a journey that many transgender & genderfluid/non-binary have struggled with, which is overall positive representation. Where it gets muddy is when translations have been used as evidence against their identity, the canonicity of endings, and people clinging to wanting Bridget to be a femboy. End of the day: Testament is Testament, whose hobbies include: Fashion magazines, DIY, collecting makeup, plastic modeling (esp. giant robots), sightseeing, fishing, pottery, river trekking, road biking, appreciating opera, weight training, fortune-telling, bonsai, gardening, watching wrestling, baking, mahjong, painting (not well), embroidery, mountain climbing, nail art, golfing, star-gazing, touring hot springs, board games, writing sci-fi novels, barbecue, belly dance, beach volleyball, watching baseball, making dollhouses, liquor (they're a non-drinker), snowboarding, watching shark B-movies, collecting occult trinkets, and scrapbooks, who also so happens to go by They/Them. And Bridget is Bridget (who, after doing hours of research, in modern canon, now refers to herself by She/Her pronouns)~
i remember reading i disgustingly bad fanfic made by a christian woman in which she basically said that if you use the color purple you are automatically a woman lmao
@@EmperorTyrael That video was definitely insightful (didn’t realize the Twitter & Pixiv drama escalated that far). My interpretation of the events in Strive is Bridget re-claiming their female identity for themselves separate from their upbringing in the village after years of introspection, doing so for herself rather than from the pressures of society (though I can still see how people interpret the situation as Bridget falling back into gender grooming childhood. I interpreted it similar to how one finds religion independently for themselves later in life despite a traumatic religious upbringing). Still happy to see the excitement and influx of new players because of Bridget. Be it representation for transgenderism, gender non-conformity, a cute boy in feminine clothing, a cute girl, or simply for a fighter that wields a yo-yo while tagging in a possessed teddy bear. End of the day, the reaction to the whole situation says one thing: we love Bridget: the gender-mixup yo-yo master who keeps on yoing~
As a nonbinary person myself this video was a really enjoyable watch! It’s interesting seeing a lot of characters and series which I grew up with and love show up here as well, makes me wonder how it took me this long to figure this stuff out sometimes… Speaking of, Kirby is a pretty important character to me due to nostalgia and also partly because of their gender ambiguity. When most people think of Kirby they don’t focus on his gender - they just think it’s Kirby! Everyone’s favourite lil puffball. Even if most people predominantly use he/him for him due to him being presented as male in the west, that’s not what people focus on. The reason I realised I was nonbinary is because I didn’t want to be seen as male or female; I wanted to be seen as me. So in a way Kirby means a lot to me cause of stuff like that (and also many other reasons)! It’s like with the colour purple - that colour hasn’t been assigned a gender with it, it’s just purple :) I could honestly go on about a lot of the characters mentioned here, Kirby, testament, Juniper - they all mean so much to me because they’re representation done in an authenticate way. Even if Shiver is confirmed female seeing her still makes me happy because we’re starting to see more nonbinary figures in media slowly come out, especially in splatoon 3 and animal crossing where the idea is obviously there. We’ve got a long way to go, but even the small rep makes me happy. I know it would make younger me inexplicably happy too, just like Kirby did.
It’s late where I am and I’m tired so I rambled a bit, but I did want to say that people can obviously be male or female and still be seen as them. Just for me, being seen as myself is not being put into the binary categories of male or female. To others, that category is them, and being perceived that way means they feel like who they truly are.
@@skulllatte3352 Adding to this, our idea of a middle ground between masculine and feminine is subjective and flawed. 'Neutral' designs will often just be masculine-lite (eg. Kris) because we treat that as default. Other ways of designing characters to look neutral, mixing masculine and feminine traits, can still skew one way or the other to most audience members depending on what they focus on. Basically, discounting an enby character (or person!) because they look more male or female, or present more masculinely or femininely, is silly. There's no obvious, consistent middle.
@@DarthSion6987 here's the thing darth sion notice how few of these games are actually about gender and representation and how many of them are praised for good plot and characters or are widely beloved? glad you found something to be mad about though
Love the video astro! As a purple-loving nonbinary person, seeing other enbies in video games/media is always *chefs kiss* Even better when they just simply exist and their identity isnt especially important because i also just exist and there's more to me than my gender.
Fun fact: most characters in anime that wear bandages on their chest are most likely samurai/ronin or Japanese tough-guy/tough-girl archetypes. The style or article of covering is called a sarashi, basically just cloth or bandages. Which is what Shiver most likely references..
something i do think is a slight problem (that has perhaps gotten better) _is_ constantly making the non-human characters (namely, robots) the only nonbinary representation. i just want nonbinary representation to not be relegated to *robot* or *weird alien that has different sexes and genders than humans.*
@RobotBlue i don't inherently have a problem with nonbinary alien/robot characters, my problem is when they're the total replacement for nonbinary human (or human-equivalent) characters
This kind of othering is what led to voidpunk. With Juniper, you can kind of argue that they're not quite human in a few ways, but in game none of the characters actually distinguish those traits from just "human."
Honestly, my first exposure to this in gaming is everyone's favourite purple jester NiGHTS. I had Christmas NiGHTS as a kid, and I remember the manual specifically stating that NiGHTS had no gender. Or, to be more specific, their gender matches those who they dualise (fuse) with, with them being genderless when not dualised. This game was initially released in 1996. And yet as a kid I just shrugged it off as the most normal thing in the world (which it should be) because flying jester go brrrrrr
Basically I believe the creator said that since NiGHTS is a being of dreams, he/she/they can become whatever you percieve him/her/them as. Which does make sense when NiGHTS can take on many forms.
as a nonbinary person myself this video is huge. representation matters and it makes me so happy to see one of my favorite youtubers covering a topic that means so much to me, thank you astro. also absolutely let men be hoes.
Actually, in Splatoon 3's hero mode, we do have a nonbinary character! The Captain,(formerly Agent 3 in 2's Octo expansion) uses they/them exclusively! And they have since Octo expansion. Regardless of the 'style' you choose for them, they use they/them!
About shiver a Splatoon 3: i do not know anything about Splatoon beyond funny gay squid game, but as a nonbinary person who fluxuated with pronouns for a long time, I think you can identify as a woman or as female and still be nonbinary. there aren't really any hard rules for nonbinary identity. if it makes you happy to think of shiver as non binary, then she is nonbinary. Non binary people do not need to use they/them of couse, and can have any style or name they want. Shiver's pronouns might be she/her, and she might wear a binder due to body dismorphia, but she can still be nonbinary.
How is Binder = Body Dismorphia? It's mostly used in traditonal Japanese Style during Festivals, at least in Osaka where I live, and is used for both men and women.
@@JArt872 trans people (usually afab individuals) wear binders to flatten their chest. Cause ya know (afab = assigned female at birth) usually have boobs and they usually would want a flatter chest because that is seen as more masculine. And having breast can cause body dysphoria so people bind their chest. And some get top surgery. This is an over simplification but that’s the jest of it. So that’s why when some people saw chest binding they thought “Is this a hint of them being trans 🤔” Although I got to say it is interesting to learn about how Japanese people would do chest binding for festivals. I understand why some people in the west didn’t consider that being a possibility and I hope you understand why that wasn’t a lot of peoples first guest. But yeah I hope this answers some questions as to why we thought chest binding = trans character.
@@spilledteaissadtea3037 Is this why Crossdressers are just Trans people who don't know they are Trans even thou they never say they are. Is that the message we want?
@@JArt872 what no. This is just a common thing in the trans community (in America) I should’ve made it more clear that I was mainly referring to why afab trans people bind their chest. Like how you said it’s well known where you live binding is for a festival that cis men and cis women do. Binding here (at least in America) is usually known for afab trans people. I was trying to explain why that was our first guest. Also No. Anyone who says cross dressers are trans they just don’t know is scum. No one should go around telling people who they are that’s disgusting. I’m not telling people that drag queens are trans women cause they’re not UNLESS THEY SAY SO. So no, telling cross dressers that they are trans was not the point of my message. I try not to assume peoples intents and instead just listen to what they have to say about themselves. If they say they’re a cross dressers imma believe them. I’m very how you came to your conclusion? Like what did I say that made you think I was trying to force labels on people? Seriously Im genuinely asking
First, I'm not NB but I am Trans, and I wanted to thank you for taking a look at some of these complex issues that plague the gaming industry. Also I've seen a few of your videos, and the running gag of you missing important dates or timeframes is absolutely hilarious. Keep up the great work
An explanation for the Splatoon 3 logo being purple and yellow, they’re complementary colors on the color wheel. Blue and orange were complementary, pink (technically should be red) and green are complementary, and purple and yellow are complementary. While the enby explanation can be used, this is also a possibility.
Honestly, while people can think what they want, using the Splatoon 3 colors to represent Nintendo removing gender (which technically isn't right, they just dont call it gender anymore) is.. honestly really overthinking it the yellow color is more of a neon greenish yellow, and the "purple" is indigo- and for the complimentary colors stuff, as an example I could see the next game's colors being green/purple or purple/orange
@@ActualAlien_ it's not supposed to be taken seriously, it's more of a happy coincidence that the game to kill player biological locking is the game with enby colors for the icon in other words: it's a funny coincidence
I hope we'll keep seeing more NB rep as games continue. Titles that encourage player-inserts should honestly go down this route by default, it just makes sense for player choice. Some people will go purple in the face at the thought, but that's okay.
started bing watching this channel over the week and then i saw this pop up. this channel is such a gem, you’re not only funny but casually yet respectfully discuss important topics that many cannot do. great video!
Apex was the first game I have ever played with a Non-binary person that wasn't just..... Non-binary, they're a badass hunter, a blend of the old ways and new age, a lover of crows and a friend to all. As a Non-binary/genderfluid person myself it feels great that respawn is actually taking notice of LGBTQIA+ people and making their characters feel like real LGBTQIA+ members. I love it so much that we are being seen and added in games (and added not just as fing villains...)
i do really like the color purple... what else that i like though, is seeing a gaming youtuber cover topics that younger me would have NEVER imagined any of the gaming youtubers i watched to cover. this video almost makes me emotional by just seeing it exist. i really appreciate you captain, for making funny entertaining stuff, and simultaneously also raising some awareness for lgbt groups, which i find important ESPECIALLY in the gaming community. i love your content so much!!! keep it up!!!
Had to pause and grin partway through at the comment about playing Chrono Trigger. That was my first JRPG as a small nerd and it changed my life and expectations for entertainment. Always love seeing it get love.
I believe that Shiver’s actually wearing something called a sarashi from Japan. I’m not very educated on it myself, though, so I won’t go too in-detail about it. However, I have seen a few other characters (who definitely identify as female) from other games also wearing it. Either way, I’m actually really happy to find out that there’s a character who’s outright stated to be agender. I’m an agender person myself, and I don’t see that often. I really resonated with what you said about representation in characters, because I see a lot of characters whose only character trait is being gay or trans or whatever. That doesn’t normalize it at all.
To be fair, Xenoblade 3 is full of dubs in areas where Xenoblade was... fucking questionable. The bath scene early in the game being the most obvious and spoiler free one. That scene ruled.
oh yea! i tend to not really like stuff like that in games, but I feel like it was handled relatively well. helps to show how tight knit, comfortable, and familiar the keves trio are with each other, and if the camera lingers on anyone's body, it's mainly the guys, surprisingly. it still felt somewhat forced, like all JRPG's seemingly have to meet a quota of at least one (1) bathhouse scene in their game to get the greenlight, but it was still handled in a way that I haven't seen before that I appreciate
@@mori2037 i personally think the scene was used to show/add to further scenes in a certain main area, that these characters have NO idea about sexy time/repro.
@@morriganrenfield8240 exactly this. The scene isnt doing a bath house scene as some like box to tick off, it's taking a massive trope in anime that Xenoblade has used before itself and turning it on its head for the world and story of this game, but I also think it's a showing of the way this game would handle physical attraction throughout too. As the game goes on and our characters learn about love and attraction, they also begin feeling that attraction. The game doesnt fall into the traps of overly sexualized fanservice though still. The characters feel attraction and there are some very hot characters, but they're never sexualized. They keep personal agency over their bodies in a way that isnt typical in many anime style games, and very much was not typical in Xenoblade 2.
This man cannot for the life of him make good and accurate tips for Splatoon, the game he plays and makes videos on, but eloquently and understandably talks about something as complex as Gender. 10/10, great video.
I loved Juniper in XC3, they have a quest later in the game that always made me think “Zeon, that they/themussy got me acting up” BLESS KITE! Also I would love to see a non binary or a male idol in Splatoon, I think it’d be a fun switch up! Big Man was clearly a trolly compromise from the creators, and I loved it so I’m fine with that lol. And it’s cool that Splatoon is a very female MC driven franchise, but I think we could absolutely see more varied idols in the games 💜
Does Big Man not count as an idol? Funny story: I first learned about Deep Cut from a version of that "pronoun mugs" meme on Twitter. Frye was "she/her", Shiver was "they/them", and Big Man was "cool hat".
@@NitroIndigo I’m pretty sure we’re counting him as one anyways, but deep cut seem like a weird trio… 2 idols and a hypeman kind of guy? I would say he’s an idol because he actually gets to sing!
If you ever do another video on these kinds of topics, do you ever think you might do one about Autistic characters? It's really something that media struggles to get right, with the only really good example of an Autistic character being Donnie from Rise of the TMNT. Besides that, I really can't think of any for video games. This is all coming from someone with Austim myself btw.
In my case, Im a cis, straight man, and I don’t really consider myself agender or androgynous or anything. However, there are things that I like doing or that I want to try that the common populace would deem “girly”, but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I want to cosplay as Bridget and wear a skirt, but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I just want to do it ‘cause it sounds really fun. Same goes for learning a dance choreography thats very “feminine”. It looks fun, I wanna do it, that’s it.
Just a little correction, Testament was always supposed to be agender, even as far back as the original Guilty Gear. It was a mistranslation that gave them he/him pronouns in English, like how Justice also got he/him pronouns even though she is a woman.
Your videos are such an effortless blend of being informative, stylish, well edited, entertaining and full of personality. Really inspiring and enjoyable to watch. I hope you have a great day! ...also purple
As a non binary person, this is a fun video to see. The stuff about Kirby I didn't know, that's cool, and makes sense, since they're just, a hungry space baby (which I can relate to). Also big fan of the NB colors, good contrast with purple making a nice middle ground.
just found your channel today, and i'm pretty impressed! your videos about diversity are actually very useful to me, who, as a cis white guy, is trying to write a story with lots of diverse characters, but isn't entirely confident in my ability to do so yet. definitely will keep them in mind, much appreciated!
Slight mention to Hollow Knight, the vessels literally have no gender, it was removed as they got tossed in The Abyss and consumed by Void (dark power). They'd fit into the 1st category of Genderless Beings. [In contrast, one of Hornet's titles is the Gendered Child, as she's the only offspring of the Pale King who was not "Voided".]
Just one thing: I don’t think shiver is wearing a binder, she seems to have Japanese cultural influence with the fan so I’m guessing it’s a “sarashi” not a binder
The point about Frisk/Kris being ambiguous is a huge misconception due to people glossing over the final twist in Undertale. The player is lead to believe that Frisk is their avatar for most of the game, until their real name is revealed right at the end, separating the two parties. Deltarune instead does this right off the bat by immediately undoing the initial character customization and showing Kris rebel against the player's control multiple times. In light of these twists, the exclusive use of "they" for both these characters would mean that they're NB. And as someone else already pointed out, the case with Shiver is straight-up censorship.
Totally agree and loved the video, I just wanted to add that whether you make your NB character make a deal out of their gender or lack thereof or not, both of them are ok, people that play all these video games don't even know there are so many NB folks in it and that's fine, but it's ok for them to be more explicit about that too, to add more awareness, depth and much-needed representation to it, or not, again it's ok, it just depends on the character itself, and you can even use the opportunity to make a good story out of it, add some depth and problems that NB folks face or whatever the f u want the story to be, again is ok for them to talk about that OR NOT that's not forced inclusivity, they're literally just talking bout themselves and their problems of their day to day life as if literally any cisgender character would do without even get flagged for it. But people are quick to assume that that's "forced" because NB folks don't even have the chance to exist and be themselves normally outside in the real world and talk about them and their problems like everybody else does, that's why I think is more important if they could be more explicit about it even though again, I do agree that is totally fine if they choose not to.
Being non-binary in the world of Xenoblade 3 means nothing ultimately. The characters have no concept of masculine or feminine traits and traditions. They aren't born naturally and do not understand the biological capacity for creating new life. Gender and even sex, does not exist in Xenoblade 3 as far as the Keves/Agnes characters in the game world are concerned.
I didn't even notice that juniper was only being referred as they until after beating the game. Also one thing on the gendered clothing stuff I'd like to point out is about fire emblems class system, specifically the 3ds ones, some of the classes with more revealing cuts like ninjas and dark mages were horny on both sides, and very few classes were gender locked, especially in fates
Appreciate how spot-on this was! Can never know what to expect when someone who's not NB lends their voice to the discussion, but this was refreshingly on point. Thanks especially for the "just ask" segment, people love to make such a fuss about how it's impossible to know what pronouns people use when in reality an overwhelming majority of NBs are happy to clarify. Big props to you using your platform to promote inclusivity as of late! It's always felt like a cozy accepting space and it's awesome to have you leaning into that.
Love the vid, Astro! I don’t think bandages should be considered a binder, though. Binding one’s chest with bandages is one of the least safe ways to do it
the shiver situation was disgusting... nintendo threw a bone to transphobes and let them run wild for like a WEEK. nobody had any reason to consider shiver female until it was explicitly stated, yet the Gamers(tm) just HAD to take the opportunity to be transphobic towards fans who were just having fun and hopeful that theyd be represented in one of their fav games. like youd have to be a real sad sack of shit to seek out and harass fans of a *kids game* to enforce the gender binary on a cartoon octopus person just bc they have long hair and a hint of purple in their colour scheme regardless, trans girl shiver is great too and im glad shes living her truth😌
"new gender just dropped... TWO" made me actually laugh out loud like not just a little sharp exhale from my nose I was guffawing from that shit. Good job, spaceman-looking guy, I will now subscribe
Purple!! I fall under the Enby umbrella and so does my partner, and this was an EXTREMELY lovely video. You did great with the explanations and had lovely ideas regarding implementing gendered and non-gendered characters in media and gaming that I quite agree with. This was awesome!! Thank you so much!! 🎉 You’ve got a new sub I’m gonna send this to my partner now, they don’t play a ton of games that don’t have character creators and thus haven’t seen much representation for people like them. My darling will love this 💕
I desperately want 13:14 to be a gif, it's absolutely amazing. Same with the women wearing armor clip. I adore this video so much and it taught me a lot about characters i never would've known while teaching me about characters i know but didn't know enough of (I freaking vibe with the enby in Chrono Trigger, that makes me wanna replay the game again and actually attempt to beat the thing.) I hope someday i can become a game designer where i can add all of these factors into my games. It makes me happy seeing games growing into more inclusive options for all and i wanna give that same happiness to others in my own creations when needed!
Forgot to add Purple but i'm too lazy to edit comment so you get a reply to myself with it... Purple. Purple and Gold are my favorite color. Yep, that's it. It ain't two colors it's just a singular color Purple & Gold/Yellow. Oop now it's a 3 in 1 color. I love being indecisive but still very decisive in my fav color(s) lmao
i really love these videos about inclusivity and representation dude, always top notch. anyway my favorite nonbinanry character is kris deltarune. if i drank kris tea, i'd probably regenerate quite a bit of HP from that purple flavor.
Another thing I like about Rise is that you can put facial hair on your character no matter the body type! Which made me very happy as I gave my character (who I like to imagine is NB) the more feminine body and some stubble :D
I'd like to mention The Caligula Effect 2 has a canon transmasc non-binary character who's very well-handled :) other than that, great video ! This was very entertaining and cool to watch ^_^
I tend to refer to everyone as they/them unless I learn they prefer something else. Easy. Usually when curious people pick up on it, they ask me about my pronouns, and I ask back. Easy. Oh and in those purple situations. I uhh. Purp. Wait, what?
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Also, something I learned immediately after I uploaded, is that every character in Minecraft (including Steve, including the animals), are ALL specifically designed to be Non-Binary
What if dehydration is my kink?
Drink the genderfluid
Hey btw in the game Apex legends the Character Bloodhound is non binary they're my favorite character in the game
Also FL4K was sadly the second character I chose I chose Zane first just because of his abilities
BTW I was putting my comments While I was watching the video my bad you did mention Bloodhound
Slight side note about Shiver, so far the only person who has said that Shiver is female is an SVP of Nintendo of America, named Nate Bihldorf. The significance of it being him specifically is that he was also on the team responsible for censoring that Vivian the witch in a PURPLE dress from Paper Mario is trans-femme in the NA English localizations
i think we'll just wait for the game to come out, and for somebody to read and translate the Japanese text to read the original message and the idea accompanying
Why do you guys want shiver to be non-binary so badly. I think its that she's a female. Forcing a sexuality on a character is really bad you lnow
i do not condone this fellow nate's actions and he will be delivered retribution swiftly
@xave If you need a cartoon videogame to represent you then you got a lot more problems then just representation
@@ASHtheSLUGCAT we don't **need** representation, but it's, like, nice to have, yknow? cis peeps might not get excited about representation, but that's cause they have always had it. they don't really know how it feels to have little to no representation in media. we get excited about stuff like this, because we're finally getting *something*
One thing about Shiver and the Binder you mentioned. There's a traditional form of binding a chest in japan that both men and women have did called "Sarashi". It was done by Samurai to resist injury and woman when wearing a Kimono to present a slender figure. I heard from some friends it was sometimes used as basically a Bra.
I wouldn't really call it a Binder personally but it certainly can be used as one. Just thought this trivia was neat and wanted to share it. Have fun with Splatoon 3!
Friendly reminder that binding with bandages is very dangerous and can cause nerve damage
@@productionscrub8476 Yeah. That's true. I just wanted to share a fun fact and didn't consider if people would actually try this without doing their own research.
@@productionscrub8476 I think that's with the elastic medical bandages that are bad but it's safe with bandages that have no elasticity at all and can be used like strips of clothed wrappings iirc.
@@productionscrub8476 thank you for saying this! I actually didn't know this!/gen
I’m pretty sure Shiver is just flat, not all girls have chests
9:02 Actually Shiver is wearing a sarashi, not a binder. Sarashi is a piece of cloth that's traditionally used when you are going to wear some type of traditional japanese clothing. Nowadays using a Sarashi that's exposed it's usually associated with criminal or rebellious characters.
that's actually a pretty cool character design detail. Love how punk Splatoon manages to be, despite being made by Nintendo
@Aburner1109 yeah they really did an order vs chaos splatfest and expected the *playerbase of splatoon* to have an even split. Like, what the fuck would an order themed splatoon game even be???
(also sidenote, I'm fighting for present in the upcoming past/present/future shebang because I feel it's the philosophically correct choice, but I think they added the squid sisters sponsoring team past so it's not just the 15 people who want more single player lore next game on that team lol)
"LET MEN BE HOES!!" is a line full of sheer power.
I wanan use that as my grad quote... but for obvi reasons I cannot :(
I don't know how but I will find a way to quote that everyday
YEAHHH
power of de_generacy i guess
I’ve been saying this for years 😞
As someone who spent several years denying their gender because of assuming that people would "just know" they are trans/NB, I feel like it's important to note that not all trans/NB people are immediately aware of their gender (or lack thereof). If you are questioning your relationship with gender, it's is important to do research on gender and identities to best understand yourself
Strong second! I assumed as much for many years because I had only been aware of one very rigid definition of what gender dysphoria is, and things I have said while 100% believing I was cis include
"My quality of life would be better if my body was on a 24-hour hormone cycle instead of a monthly one"
and
"Having boobs sucks low-key, not really worth it you lucky you don't gotta deal with that shit" (to a cis man)
and
"pregnancy is a body horror nightmare. Even if abortions were free and easy I'd rather die than know that I have been pregnant" (and knew I wouldn't have kids since I was four 0_o)
and I thought that since the bleeding part of my cycle didn't cause major trauma it couldn't possibly make me dysphoric (even though that's the half of the month I function worse and find it almost impossible to bathe regularly)
Plus I have almost never been able to self-inserting in media as female, and unless I'd made a character as close as possible to my physical body, I always choose male avatars in games
Mostly I just wanna put it out there that if you have random unexplained depersonalization/derealization symptoms that you just can't quite put your finger on the cause, that could be a way gender dysphoria presents
(please excuse my decompression rant, I found out last week and I should have realized a long long time ago ):
Strong third, generally you should just play around with presentation and find what feels the most correct, or realise that all of it kinda sucks (like I did) and just live in constant confusion that people do have any inherent meaning of what gender even is, come to terms with the fact that you kinda exist outside of all that, and just be a happy lil person that no one knows understands just by being looking at :D
Love that Juniper's gender in the code is literally non-binary.
holy shit that is actually clever
Roc from Xenoblade 2 is like that too.
@@AlexaRobin21 Isn't it 4?
New gender just dropped; *2!!*
@@heroinhero still not in the binary tbf
The Gender:2 being a great way to store Non-Binary but also not being a Binary digit is a nice touch!
Gender 2: Electric Boogaloo
Undertale and Deltarune is an odd example because there's actually some debate in the games' fandom over whether the human characters are meant to be gender-ambiguous blank slates or if they are specifically intended to be nonbinary. Proponents for the latter note how these characters start off seeming like standard silent protagonists to project onto, but are later revealed to have their own distinct personality traits and thoughts, so them being nonbinary would serve as a *subversion* of gender-ambiguous blank slates.
For kris specifically I feel like we can say they use they/them pronouns atleast, because unlike frisk their life before we see them isnt ambiguous. Kris is their own person and everyone in the world that has known them for a while refers to them as such, they're only a "blank slate protagonist" after we take over as we see their save file being overwritten by our own
@@Hario338 Agreed. With Undertale the blank slate debate is understandable and more of a side thing; with Deltarune it feels like Kris being a subversion of blank slate protagonists is the whole point. The game isn't subtle about it.
I've had debates with people with other viewpoints and their arguments always got a bit absurd once all the evidence was laid out.
I believe Toby Fox actually corrected people who use pronouns other than they/them (usually he/him, I wonder why...) so I think it's safe to say they're definitively nb, however for Frisk, I'd say it's a bit more ambiguous whether they're ambiguous or non binary
@@Trashley652 or maybe hes just cashing in on a rabid fanbase by going along with it ive learned if you make a game and put a rainbow flag in it and pretend to have pronouns the lgbt fanbase you amass will literally lick your arse clean
the worlds best selling bible app was made by a atheist lol
why not both? i think nonbinary characters can be something to relate to for players too, regardless of the players gender
Another thing to note is that non binary people can still use he/him or she/her pronouns, or they can have multiple sets of pronouns they're ok with. So English Kirby could still be nb, just using he/him pronouns.
but if someone is non-binary but still uses he/him or she/her pronouns what's even the point of being nb? no hate but I genuinely don't get it..
@@elnkianni3466 The point of being nb is that there is no point of being nb. There's no rules.
@@elnkianni3466 Gender isn't about the titles. It's about identifying the self, which can be done in an unlimitted amount of ways. Expression and titles(names, pronouns, etc) can be factors in how one identifies themselves, but neither of those are requirements to any degree, and because of that everyones experience may differ. That goes for Cisgender, transgender, non-binary and whatever identities.
So the "point" is to do whatever you do that helps you identify yourself. The labels are there to help us, not keep us boxed in.
@@elnkianni3466 gender is an illusion
To put things more simply, pronouns are more closely tied to gender presentation than to gender identity.
I thought during the Legendary Pokémon part astro was gonna say "Just like Legendary Pokémon, Non-Binary people are rare and legendary"
Then i'll just have to reduce they/their population
@@freshlycannedwater is your pfp a selfie?
@@AshenDust_ Is/It?
@@freshlycannedwater I’d assume so
@@AshenDust_ monke shall not be disrespected
I feel like Apex does diversity in general perfectly. Just like you said near the end of the video, their characters that are part of the LGBTQ community or a minority are never shown off for their gender, sexuality or race. Hell I didn't even know a lot of the characters were gay or non-binary until I looked it up. But the fact I loved the characters without knowing shows that the representation was done right and wasn't something they they used as leverage to improve their character. Just my two cents.
This, wholeheartedly, is how it should be done. Make a good character and then don't label them. Let people find out themselves through the character's actions, dialogue, etc. If you want to normalize that sort of identity or group, you cannot make them standout as being different.
@@bentowers3614 Hmmm. I take issue with this approach. While it's of course good for characters to be fully fleshed out despite their identities, pretending like you're not allowed to openly acknowledge or focus on their identity isn't really the solution imo. The truth is, the groups you're referring to ARE different. And accepting that doesn't immediately make the story bad. It's possible to have good characters whilst also not letting their identities get sidelined. This kind of logic completely erases the possibility of having stories solely focused on the identities of marginalized people. These stories are valuable because they remind us of the very real differences that exist between folks of different racial/sexual/gender identities. Not every story needs to do this obviously but simply saying we should just make no effort to acknowledge the differences doesn't really help.
To me that's the issue though. For me, personally, I think Apex simply overdoes it. Putting representation in is fine, but does a game with like 25 characters need a non-binary, a trans, an autistic, an ADHD, a gay, a lesbian, a pansexual, a bisexual, an unsure, another lesbian, and a near perfect 50/50 split in gender all at once? If the idea is realistically representing people, it's not right.
And why does the one Indian character need to look and sound stereotypically Indian if they're half British? Why are they British and Indian at all if humanity has been mingling in spaceships and on other planets? Are the ships racially segregated?
Apex clearly does it for brownie points and I think it's far too obvious to seem genuine anymore. I'm not a fucking medal to be put on a wall of virtue signalling, I don't even necessarily want to be represented a lot. It's marketing.
To clarify, I don't think the Devs necessarily don't mean it, but at the end of the day the person approving these changes is running a business and that business is to sell in-game purchases to as many people as possible.
I just want a game that's fun. Make all the characters straight for all I care, I don't give a shit as long as the gameplay is enjoyable.
@@bromo8874 I think what they was getting at is just don’t make it everything they are. Like it’s their personality, character development and or reason for being is lbgtq. I also see what you are saying to though so I don’t know lol
Fr, it’s annoying when movies & shows got nothing to offer but fill it with extremely gay/trans/whatever with flashy very LGBT-themed outfits like it’s the pride parade outside. I’m getting tired of it.. you’re here to watch a movie, not a “day in the life of an oppressed minority” documentary. TED-ed did enough of those.
Honestly Shiver's situation is bizarre because you could make the argument that her being confirmed as cis is yet another way Nintendo of America isn't being true to the original Splatoon localizations. The person that deconfirmed Shiver as some brand of non-binary was just one guy, and allegedy some people have gotten replies from other NoA representatives that claim Shiver IS meant to be non-binary.
It might just be me coping but it's weird that every single localization (barring Portuguese) went out of its way to never refer to Shiver with pronouns or gendered language in her introduction, even in languages like French or Spanish where you REALLY have to put in work to refer to someone with gender ambiguity. If the intent was to always keep her cis all that effort just seems misplaced (and a tad queerbaity.)
All in all though Shiver would look good in purple, I wonder how splatfest colors will look on her.
I can't explain why her gender was never confirmed in any of the translations but I've been under the impression that all the idols and agents were canon females so I just kinda assumed most people would think Shiver would be female. I guess Big Man breaks that streak but he's more of a mascot than an idol.
@@suwuicidal nah, it’s a trio, Big Man even has his own team; and Big Man is the first male idol, He’s making waves. Put some respect on Big Man’s name
As much as I would've loved Shiver being an enby character, it was to be expected that Nintendo wouldn't commit to the idea, I do have to say that the fact that pronoun usage being avoided in tons of languages might've been a bit 'sus', but maybe it was our own fault and we maybe looked a bit too much into it, building tons of expectations and then blaming Nintendo -but can we really blame ourselves? representation is lacking, and we are starving..
@@jellopuffy2974 This likely the case. I looked back at the introductions we received for the other idols, and in their own self introducing dialogue, they rarely used pronouns either. The introduction we received in the direct for Deep Cut, all three of them avoided pronouns. Does that mean Frye and Big Man are non-binary? Why is it only Shiver?
People are just looking way too into it to find scraps that aren't there. Honestly, the best way to properly represent non-binary types in games is to never call them non-binary. Just have them be a normal, honest-to-goodness, character like any other. Write their actions and dialogue to let the viewer decide on their non-binarinism, as opposed to forcing it out of a misguided desire to appease a mass that rarely touches that media to begin with.
@@bentowers3614 the thing is,as an enby, people just tend to assume characters gender
Kris from Deltarune is def nonbinary, because a major point of that games plot is how Kris is their own person, and we as the player are taking control. So all the other characters referring to Kris with they/them pronouns is definitely because those are the pronouns Kris uses, and not because they are meant to be a blank slate character.
Purple
the whole lancer fanclub/fun gang/whatever you call them goofy trio of heroes are literally made of gender defying characters, why would it not include the edgy nonbinary kid?
Exactly. Games told us like 100 times that KRIS IS NOT US
Aren’t we controlling kris because when his heart is ripped out we can’t control him but we can control the heart
@@ZeusMakesDoodles yes this, along with other things that point to it, show how we as the player are controlling Kris during the game as the soul. Which is why its obvious that Kris uses they/them pronouns due to everyone using those for Kris. You should not use he/him pronouns when referring to Kris as those are the wrong ones
You're reading too much into it. Kris is just another Frisk. @@MaeIsOkay
A game that has non binary characters would be one called Gnosia, a social deduction game that has two of them. It's a game that works kind of like the usual werewolf or mafia games but it's set in space, got a cool cast and a wacky story.
SO IT'S AMONG US???
@@Nikowo1610 ... no? to begin with, it has heavy lore, is fully singleplayer, and works like a vn, and that's just surface-level differences.
A single player social deduction game?
@@otherlego ... yeah, pretty much. RNG decides which characters you see in each playthrough, and who are gnosia, beings that disguise themselves as humans and feel compelled to kill humans. Which could potentially include you. The whole game takes place in a spaceship, the goal is to get rid of the gnosia, if you're a human, or eradicate humans if you're a gnosia. Aside from that, it works like a basic Social Deduction Game, other than the fact that everyone else is an NPC. You discuss during the day who to send to cryosleep, and during the night you can talk to people to form alliances or confirm suspicions. Once that's done, anyone with a special role uses their special action, and it's on to the next day, with at least one new corpse. Rinse and Repeat.
It was made before among us
A minor correction, the garment across Shiver's chest is a sarashi wrap, a traditional japanese undergarment, not a binder.
Pokemon's adamancy on making sure the protagonists have gender has been weird to me, especially in Scarlet and Violet. They wear the same outfit and there isn't a rival with the other protagonist whether yours is wearing orange or purple, but they make sure you know that there are two of them and one is a *boy* and the other is a *girl* .
Just like in real life
The whole world and it's history does not revolve around gender neutrality. Gender is also a fairly new word and concept so it's no surprise why they'd never bother with it.
@@freshlycannedwater wow dude you're so pathetic you have 6 comments on this video spewing nothing of value. Follow the lightning guy's advice now
I'm sure that Pokemon will include non-binary characters as soon as they figure out how to exploit them for profit (the only driving force in the capitalist machine).
@@freshlycannedwater who let grandpa on the computer again 😩😩😩 u know ur internet usage needs to be supervised!!
Random things to note as a person who obsesses over the Xenoblade series:
Xenoblade 2 did also have a seemingly nonbinary character in the form of Roc. Much like Juniper, Roc being neither male nor female is backed up by in-game gender values (which for Roc is set to the number 4). Unfortunately Roc gets barely any focus, let alone character development (because the Blade System leads to bland, one-note characters that can't do anything outside of their Drivers) but hey, at least Roc isn't a walking stereotype.
Roc is Roc. Always has been; always will be.
well roc does have a bit more story significance than another blades
I just wish that Roc at least got more story significance alongside Nia during that story arc where Pyra was captured by Torna
Juniper just a girl
@@gbdeck200 wrong
As a Nonbinary person I can confirm that we all know how to rail grind, and it is actually the main indicator for being nonbinary.
dude just make up with your dad it's not that hard I promise
@@_Ikelos Well I would, but he happens to be your typical conservative christian bigot
captain astronaut is the ally we didn’t know we needed
In the claw machine that is the gaming industry, you don't get too many gender queer characters per pull. It's nice to see that highlighted and commentated on, especially by professional TH-camr and home invader Captain Astronaut.
Best, most impactful, and most meaningful sentence in this video: "LET MEN BE HOES!"
Speaking of purple, really happy that you mentioned Floofy from Bugsnax!! They're one of my fav examples of enby representation ^ ^ None of the other characters take their gender into question or misgender them. It's treated as completely normal and it's great!
Plus, I love that they're just kinda problematic. Non-binary characters can be a little mean. As a treat
I'm also an enby, and seeing a list of enbies in video games is validating. Kirby and Testament are my favorites on this list. My favorite color is Cyan, specifically aquamarine, but Purple, specifically lavender, is my second favorite color
Same, kirby my beloved
tbh I'm not really too bothered by Shiver not being nb, I'm just happy we got to get a good androgynous woman design that isn't just "kinda buff girl in a grey tanktop with a goofy ahh haircut" again
Purple is genuinely my favorite color because society hasn't declared it masculine or feminine: it is the color of royalty.
As someone studying game development, character customization can be difficult if gender options (or lack there of) are attempted to be retroactively made fluid. However, developing from the ground up with fluidity in mind can save a lot of hassle in the long run regardless, so long as there are accommodations for customizable traits (sliders are a blessing).
Respect game dev's declarations of character's gender & sexuality. I know it's not directly related to non-binary characters, but Bridget. Testament was a straight-forward and well-done evolution of the character from He/Him to They/Them. Conversely, Bridget went from being born He/Him to dressed and conformed to She/Her, to actively defying said conformity by declaring themselves as He/Him, before later re-actualizing their identity as She/Her. It's a journey that many transgender & genderfluid/non-binary have struggled with, which is overall positive representation. Where it gets muddy is when translations have been used as evidence against their identity, the canonicity of endings, and people clinging to wanting Bridget to be a femboy.
End of the day: Testament is Testament, whose hobbies include:
Fashion magazines, DIY, collecting makeup, plastic modeling (esp. giant robots), sightseeing, fishing, pottery, river trekking, road biking, appreciating opera, weight training, fortune-telling, bonsai, gardening, watching wrestling, baking, mahjong, painting (not well), embroidery, mountain climbing, nail art, golfing, star-gazing, touring hot springs, board games, writing sci-fi novels, barbecue, belly dance, beach volleyball, watching baseball, making dollhouses, liquor (they're a non-drinker), snowboarding, watching shark B-movies, collecting occult trinkets, and scrapbooks, who also so happens to go by They/Them.
And Bridget is Bridget (who, after doing hours of research, in modern canon, now refers to herself by She/Her pronouns)~
The Guilty Gear wiki comment section should not be delved into at any cost, lest you have spare brain cells.
I would like to point you to a video regarding Bridget and other characters in general.
th-cam.com/video/TiGgEt5k_Wk/w-d-xo.html
i remember reading i disgustingly bad fanfic made by a christian woman in which she basically said that if you use the color purple you are automatically a woman lmao
@@EmperorTyrael That video was definitely insightful (didn’t realize the Twitter & Pixiv drama escalated that far). My interpretation of the events in Strive is Bridget re-claiming their female identity for themselves separate from their upbringing in the village after years of introspection, doing so for herself rather than from the pressures of society (though I can still see how people interpret the situation as Bridget falling back into gender grooming childhood. I interpreted it similar to how one finds religion independently for themselves later in life despite a traumatic religious upbringing).
Still happy to see the excitement and influx of new players because of Bridget. Be it representation for transgenderism, gender non-conformity, a cute boy in feminine clothing, a cute girl, or simply for a fighter that wields a yo-yo while tagging in a possessed teddy bear. End of the day, the reaction to the whole situation says one thing: we love Bridget: the gender-mixup yo-yo master who keeps on yoing~
Brisket :3
As a nonbinary person myself this video was a really enjoyable watch! It’s interesting seeing a lot of characters and series which I grew up with and love show up here as well, makes me wonder how it took me this long to figure this stuff out sometimes…
Speaking of, Kirby is a pretty important character to me due to nostalgia and also partly because of their gender ambiguity. When most people think of Kirby they don’t focus on his gender - they just think it’s Kirby! Everyone’s favourite lil puffball. Even if most people predominantly use he/him for him due to him being presented as male in the west, that’s not what people focus on. The reason I realised I was nonbinary is because I didn’t want to be seen as male or female; I wanted to be seen as me. So in a way Kirby means a lot to me cause of stuff like that (and also many other reasons)! It’s like with the colour purple - that colour hasn’t been assigned a gender with it, it’s just purple :)
I could honestly go on about a lot of the characters mentioned here, Kirby, testament, Juniper - they all mean so much to me because they’re representation done in an authenticate way.
Even if Shiver is confirmed female seeing her still makes me happy because we’re starting to see more nonbinary figures in media slowly come out, especially in splatoon 3 and animal crossing where the idea is obviously there. We’ve got a long way to go, but even the small rep makes me happy. I know it would make younger me inexplicably happy too, just like Kirby did.
It’s late where I am and I’m tired so I rambled a bit, but I did want to say that people can obviously be male or female and still be seen as them. Just for me, being seen as myself is not being put into the binary categories of male or female. To others, that category is them, and being perceived that way means they feel like who they truly are.
@@skulllatte3352 Adding to this, our idea of a middle ground between masculine and feminine is subjective and flawed. 'Neutral' designs will often just be masculine-lite (eg. Kris) because we treat that as default. Other ways of designing characters to look neutral, mixing masculine and feminine traits, can still skew one way or the other to most audience members depending on what they focus on.
Basically, discounting an enby character (or person!) because they look more male or female, or present more masculinely or femininely, is silly. There's no obvious, consistent middle.
Or people could just create good characters and focus on the plot instead of "muh representation and diversity". 🙄
@@DarthSion6987 here's the thing darth sion notice how few of these games are actually about gender and representation and how many of them are praised for good plot and characters or are widely beloved? glad you found something to be mad about though
Here before the Captain finally gets that Silver Play Button. Almost there!
Soon! Soon I will join you 🙏🏾
Love the video astro! As a purple-loving nonbinary person, seeing other enbies in video games/media is always *chefs kiss* Even better when they just simply exist and their identity isnt especially important because i also just exist and there's more to me than my gender.
9:13 finally, we can now conclude that there *is 2 gender.* And 0 and 1 gender. Thanks xenoblade!
Gender 2 is literally as non binary as it gets
There is also Roc
There is also 4 gender in XC2.
Fun fact: most characters in anime that wear bandages on their chest are most likely samurai/ronin or Japanese tough-guy/tough-girl archetypes. The style or article of covering is called a sarashi, basically just cloth or bandages.
Which is what Shiver most likely references..
Would love to see vids like this for trans fem and masc characters respectfully as well, always a delight to see an upload from this channel
1:54 if I put a gender fluid person in a fridge will they become gender solid?
Be careful not to leave them in a hot car, they'll become gender gas 😨
Too much heat and they ascend to their ultimate form, the *GENDER PLASMA*
If you touch a power line, you might become gender plasma
@@swordbunni Gas is fluid.
@RobotBlue All of those are fluid.
something i do think is a slight problem (that has perhaps gotten better) _is_ constantly making the non-human characters (namely, robots) the only nonbinary representation. i just want nonbinary representation to not be relegated to *robot* or *weird alien that has different sexes and genders than humans.*
@RobotBlue i don't inherently have a problem with nonbinary alien/robot characters, my problem is when they're the total replacement for nonbinary human (or human-equivalent) characters
This kind of othering is what led to voidpunk.
With Juniper, you can kind of argue that they're not quite human in a few ways, but in game none of the characters actually distinguish those traits from just "human."
shiver isn't "literally wearing a binder", shes wearing a sarashi.
Honestly, my first exposure to this in gaming is everyone's favourite purple jester NiGHTS. I had Christmas NiGHTS as a kid, and I remember the manual specifically stating that NiGHTS had no gender. Or, to be more specific, their gender matches those who they dualise (fuse) with, with them being genderless when not dualised.
This game was initially released in 1996.
And yet as a kid I just shrugged it off as the most normal thing in the world (which it should be) because flying jester go brrrrrr
Basically I believe the creator said that since NiGHTS is a being of dreams, he/she/they can become whatever you percieve him/her/them as.
Which does make sense when NiGHTS can take on many forms.
I'm so glad people still remember NiGHTS!
Love that you’re a bass player man, I‘m about 6 months deep and getting better every day. Rock on!
as a nonbinary person myself this video is huge. representation matters and it makes me so happy to see one of my favorite youtubers covering a topic that means so much to me, thank you astro. also absolutely let men be hoes.
Actually, in Splatoon 3's hero mode, we do have a nonbinary character! The Captain,(formerly Agent 3 in 2's Octo expansion) uses they/them exclusively! And they have since Octo expansion. Regardless of the 'style' you choose for them, they use they/them!
About shiver a Splatoon 3: i do not know anything about Splatoon beyond funny gay squid game, but as a nonbinary person who fluxuated with pronouns for a long time, I think you can identify as a woman or as female and still be nonbinary. there aren't really any hard rules for nonbinary identity. if it makes you happy to think of shiver as non binary, then she is nonbinary. Non binary people do not need to use they/them of couse, and can have any style or name they want. Shiver's pronouns might be she/her, and she might wear a binder due to body dismorphia, but she can still be nonbinary.
How is Binder = Body Dismorphia? It's mostly used in traditonal Japanese Style during Festivals, at least in Osaka where I live, and is used for both men and women.
@@JArt872 trans people (usually afab individuals) wear binders to flatten their chest. Cause ya know (afab = assigned female at birth) usually have boobs and they usually would want a flatter chest because that is seen as more masculine. And having breast can cause body dysphoria so people bind their chest. And some get top surgery. This is an over simplification but that’s the jest of it. So that’s why when some people saw chest binding they thought “Is this a hint of them being trans 🤔”
Although I got to say it is interesting to learn about how Japanese people would do chest binding for festivals. I understand why some people in the west didn’t consider that being a possibility and I hope you understand why that wasn’t a lot of peoples first guest. But yeah I hope this answers some questions as to why we thought chest binding = trans character.
@@spilledteaissadtea3037 Is this why Crossdressers are just Trans people who don't know they are Trans even thou they never say they are.
Is that the message we want?
@@JArt872 what no. This is just a common thing in the trans community (in America) I should’ve made it more clear that I was mainly referring to why afab trans people bind their chest. Like how you said it’s well known where you live binding is for a festival that cis men and cis women do. Binding here (at least in America) is usually known for afab trans people. I was trying to explain why that was our first guest. Also No. Anyone who says cross dressers are trans they just don’t know is scum. No one should go around telling people who they are that’s disgusting. I’m not telling people that drag queens are trans women cause they’re not UNLESS THEY SAY SO. So no, telling cross dressers that they are trans was not the point of my message. I try not to assume peoples intents and instead just listen to what they have to say about themselves. If they say they’re a cross dressers imma believe them. I’m very how you came to your conclusion? Like what did I say that made you think I was trying to force labels on people? Seriously Im genuinely asking
very glad i found this channel, on my way to binge the rest of the content 😌
First, I'm not NB but I am Trans, and I wanted to thank you for taking a look at some of these complex issues that plague the gaming industry. Also I've seen a few of your videos, and the running gag of you missing important dates or timeframes is absolutely hilarious. Keep up the great work
An explanation for the Splatoon 3 logo being purple and yellow, they’re complementary colors on the color wheel. Blue and orange were complementary, pink (technically should be red) and green are complementary, and purple and yellow are complementary. While the enby explanation can be used, this is also a possibility.
Honestly, while people can think what they want, using the Splatoon 3 colors to represent Nintendo removing gender (which technically isn't right, they just dont call it gender anymore) is.. honestly really overthinking it
the yellow color is more of a neon greenish yellow, and the "purple" is indigo- and for the complimentary colors stuff, as an example I could see the next game's colors being green/purple or purple/orange
@@ActualAlien_ it's not supposed to be taken seriously, it's more of a happy coincidence that the game to kill player biological locking is the game with enby colors for the icon
in other words: it's a funny coincidence
@@internetguy7319 funny cause eyebrows are still gender locked
They absolutely didn’t do the flag colors intentionally, nintendo doesn’t have the balls, but it would be hilarious
wario and waluigi are nonb confirmed
I hope we'll keep seeing more NB rep as games continue. Titles that encourage player-inserts should honestly go down this route by default, it just makes sense for player choice. Some people will go purple in the face at the thought, but that's okay.
Undertale was the first time I heard an individual be referred to with they/them pronouns.
I mean, undertale invented the lgbt community so that's a given
@@maoopan tf you yapping about
@@maoopanbro wtf
@@Ivory-f5b don't you remember? The lgbt community was invented in 1009 when Undine and Alphys were still in the ancient/dinosaur states
@@maoopan yeah true
Testament was the person that made me ask myself if I really am what I think I am, now I'm way happier than before
My love for this channel has grown exponentially. I am so glad you were in my recommended feed.
kris just IS non-binary, and not because they're a blank slate. in fact, they specifically aren't
started bing watching this channel over the week and then i saw this pop up. this channel is such a gem, you’re not only funny but casually yet respectfully discuss important topics that many cannot do. great video!
Apex was the first game I have ever played with a Non-binary person that wasn't just..... Non-binary, they're a badass hunter, a blend of the old ways and new age, a lover of crows and a friend to all. As a Non-binary/genderfluid person myself it feels great that respawn is actually taking notice of LGBTQIA+ people and making their characters feel like real LGBTQIA+ members. I love it so much that we are being seen and added in games (and added not just as fing villains...)
Our generation is lost.
In my opinion, all armor in video games should be purple bikini armor, regardless of the character's gender.
i do really like the color purple... what else that i like though, is seeing a gaming youtuber cover topics that younger me would have NEVER imagined any of the gaming youtubers i watched to cover. this video almost makes me emotional by just seeing it exist. i really appreciate you captain, for making funny entertaining stuff, and simultaneously also raising some awareness for lgbt groups, which i find important ESPECIALLY in the gaming community. i love your content so much!!! keep it up!!!
Had to pause and grin partway through at the comment about playing Chrono Trigger. That was my first JRPG as a small nerd and it changed my life and expectations for entertainment. Always love seeing it get love.
I came to this channel to watch you dunk on XC2, but stayed for your laid back and inclusive content!
edit: purple
I believe that Shiver’s actually wearing something called a sarashi from Japan. I’m not very educated on it myself, though, so I won’t go too in-detail about it. However, I have seen a few other characters (who definitely identify as female) from other games also wearing it.
Either way, I’m actually really happy to find out that there’s a character who’s outright stated to be agender. I’m an agender person myself, and I don’t see that often. I really resonated with what you said about representation in characters, because I see a lot of characters whose only character trait is being gay or trans or whatever. That doesn’t normalize it at all.
To be fair, Xenoblade 3 is full of dubs in areas where Xenoblade was... fucking questionable. The bath scene early in the game being the most obvious and spoiler free one. That scene ruled.
oh yea! i tend to not really like stuff like that in games, but I feel like it was handled relatively well. helps to show how tight knit, comfortable, and familiar the keves trio are with each other, and if the camera lingers on anyone's body, it's mainly the guys, surprisingly.
it still felt somewhat forced, like all JRPG's seemingly have to meet a quota of at least one (1) bathhouse scene in their game to get the greenlight, but it was still handled in a way that I haven't seen before that I appreciate
@@mori2037 i personally think the scene was used to show/add to further scenes in a certain main area, that these characters have NO idea about sexy time/repro.
@@morriganrenfield8240 exactly this. The scene isnt doing a bath house scene as some like box to tick off, it's taking a massive trope in anime that Xenoblade has used before itself and turning it on its head for the world and story of this game, but I also think it's a showing of the way this game would handle physical attraction throughout too. As the game goes on and our characters learn about love and attraction, they also begin feeling that attraction. The game doesnt fall into the traps of overly sexualized fanservice though still. The characters feel attraction and there are some very hot characters, but they're never sexualized. They keep personal agency over their bodies in a way that isnt typical in many anime style games, and very much was not typical in Xenoblade 2.
love the video. Always awesome when a creater you like turns out to be cool in this regard too
This man cannot for the life of him make good and accurate tips for Splatoon, the game he plays and makes videos on, but eloquently and understandably talks about something as complex as Gender. 10/10, great video.
im quoting "this is a sillyman argument being made by sillyman" daily
PURPLE
9:02 shiver is NOT wearing a binder. She’s wearing a sarashi. It is worn by samurai to resist injury and by women to present a slim figure.
Purple Man from FNaF made it! Real Talk, happy to watch your video at the end.
I legit thought that non binary was a programming language which didn't use binary but I feel educated now
"Let men be hoes!"
oh I am so stealing that quote
I loved Juniper in XC3, they have a quest later in the game that always made me think “Zeon, that they/themussy got me acting up” BLESS KITE!
Also I would love to see a non binary or a male idol in Splatoon, I think it’d be a fun switch up! Big Man was clearly a trolly compromise from the creators, and I loved it so I’m fine with that lol. And it’s cool that Splatoon is a very female MC driven franchise, but I think we could absolutely see more varied idols in the games 💜
Bro that’s funny 😭😭
I just finished that guest last night it was so wholesome 💀
Does Big Man not count as an idol?
Funny story: I first learned about Deep Cut from a version of that "pronoun mugs" meme on Twitter. Frye was "she/her", Shiver was "they/them", and Big Man was "cool hat".
@@NitroIndigo I’m pretty sure we’re counting him as one anyways, but deep cut seem like a weird trio… 2 idols and a hypeman kind of guy? I would say he’s an idol because he actually gets to sing!
agnussy*
If you ever do another video on these kinds of topics, do you ever think you might do one about Autistic characters? It's really something that media struggles to get right, with the only really good example of an Autistic character being Donnie from Rise of the TMNT. Besides that, I really can't think of any for video games. This is all coming from someone with Austim myself btw.
Jesus Christ
now i gotta learn to art to make Shiver purple
Gotta learn Pixel Art Kora!!
Purple is the new Blue..
Did not expect to see a 5 year old Necrodancer TAS video of mine be used as background footage at 7:24, cool video though!
In my case, Im a cis, straight man, and I don’t really consider myself agender or androgynous or anything. However, there are things that I like doing or that I want to try that the common populace would deem “girly”, but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I want to cosplay as Bridget and wear a skirt, but that doesn’t mean anything to me. I just want to do it ‘cause it sounds really fun. Same goes for learning a dance choreography thats very “feminine”. It looks fun, I wanna do it, that’s it.
Just a little correction, Testament was always supposed to be agender, even as far back as the original Guilty Gear. It was a mistranslation that gave them he/him pronouns in English, like how Justice also got he/him pronouns even though she is a woman.
Your videos are such an effortless blend of being informative, stylish, well edited, entertaining and full of personality. Really inspiring and enjoyable to watch. I hope you have a great day!
...also purple
"Let women wear full armor" is exactly why my MH4U hunter Ruleih almost exclusively wears the Nerscylla set.
As a non binary person, this is a fun video to see. The stuff about Kirby I didn't know, that's cool, and makes sense, since they're just, a hungry space baby (which I can relate to).
Also big fan of the NB colors, good contrast with purple making a nice middle ground.
I don't think Kirby has had deep thoughts about anything other than food which is a mood
just found your channel today, and i'm pretty impressed! your videos about diversity are actually very useful to me, who, as a cis white guy, is trying to write a story with lots of diverse characters, but isn't entirely confident in my ability to do so yet. definitely will keep them in mind, much appreciated!
Slight mention to Hollow Knight, the vessels literally have no gender, it was removed as they got tossed in The Abyss and consumed by Void (dark power). They'd fit into the 1st category of Genderless Beings. [In contrast, one of Hornet's titles is the Gendered Child, as she's the only offspring of the Pale King who was not "Voided".]
Just one thing: I don’t think shiver is wearing a binder, she seems to have Japanese cultural influence with the fan so I’m guessing it’s a “sarashi” not a binder
it is a sarashi, not a stupid binder. She is female, not nb.
@@hannarekhavi3478 (cough cough) gender is different from sex (cough)
@@Soleihere both mean the same thing, just different ways of saying it
The point about Frisk/Kris being ambiguous is a huge misconception due to people glossing over the final twist in Undertale. The player is lead to believe that Frisk is their avatar for most of the game, until their real name is revealed right at the end, separating the two parties. Deltarune instead does this right off the bat by immediately undoing the initial character customization and showing Kris rebel against the player's control multiple times. In light of these twists, the exclusive use of "they" for both these characters would mean that they're NB.
And as someone else already pointed out, the case with Shiver is straight-up censorship.
great vid! Also I like the voice :D pleasant to listen to.
Totally agree and loved the video, I just wanted to add that whether you make your NB character make a deal out of their gender or lack thereof or not, both of them are ok, people that play all these video games don't even know there are so many NB folks in it and that's fine, but it's ok for them to be more explicit about that too, to add more awareness, depth and much-needed representation to it, or not, again it's ok, it just depends on the character itself, and you can even use the opportunity to make a good story out of it, add some depth and problems that NB folks face or whatever the f u want the story to be, again is ok for them to talk about that OR NOT that's not forced inclusivity, they're literally just talking bout themselves and their problems of their day to day life as if literally any cisgender character would do without even get flagged for it.
But people are quick to assume that that's "forced" because NB folks don't even have the chance to exist and be themselves normally outside in the real world and talk about them and their problems like everybody else does, that's why I think is more important if they could be more explicit about it even though again, I do agree that is totally fine if they choose not to.
Juniper is probably my favorite non binary character in media ever. they're just so amazing!
Being non-binary in the world of Xenoblade 3 means nothing ultimately. The characters have no concept of masculine or feminine traits and traditions. They aren't born naturally and do not understand the biological capacity for creating new life. Gender and even sex, does not exist in Xenoblade 3 as far as the Keves/Agnes characters in the game world are concerned.
I didn't even notice that juniper was only being referred as they until after beating the game. Also one thing on the gendered clothing stuff I'd like to point out is about fire emblems class system, specifically the 3ds ones, some of the classes with more revealing cuts like ninjas and dark mages were horny on both sides, and very few classes were gender locked, especially in fates
as much as fates sucked, it really was pretty good
Dude, I legitimately respect your content. Not only are you entertaining, but you explain things in an easy to comprehend and non offensive way!
Appreciate how spot-on this was! Can never know what to expect when someone who's not NB lends their voice to the discussion, but this was refreshingly on point.
Thanks especially for the "just ask" segment, people love to make such a fuss about how it's impossible to know what pronouns people use when in reality an overwhelming majority of NBs are happy to clarify.
Big props to you using your platform to promote inclusivity as of late! It's always felt like a cozy accepting space and it's awesome to have you leaning into that.
Love the vid, Astro!
I don’t think bandages should be considered a binder, though. Binding one’s chest with bandages is one of the least safe ways to do it
Non-binary here!
This was super cool and I love this sm
Also shiver is one of my enby icons
One of my favorite nonbinary character is psi from BTD6, I think ninja kiwi did absolutely perfect with their voice.
the shiver situation was disgusting... nintendo threw a bone to transphobes and let them run wild for like a WEEK. nobody had any reason to consider shiver female until it was explicitly stated, yet the Gamers(tm) just HAD to take the opportunity to be transphobic towards fans who were just having fun and hopeful that theyd be represented in one of their fav games. like youd have to be a real sad sack of shit to seek out and harass fans of a *kids game* to enforce the gender binary on a cartoon octopus person just bc they have long hair and a hint of purple in their colour scheme
regardless, trans girl shiver is great too and im glad shes living her truth😌
There ain't no way ur not an elaborate troll because this is too good
@@freshlycannedwater ok queen
@@nicodoe6181 fighting it like an absolute chad(ette)!!
damn bro guess that's what happens when you assume the gender :p
Just because a character isn’t what you want doesn’t mean shit
lavender happens to be one of my favourite colours - what a coincidence
"new gender just dropped... TWO" made me actually laugh out loud like not just a little sharp exhale from my nose I was guffawing from that shit. Good job, spaceman-looking guy, I will now subscribe
This entire video is a treat, and it’s going into the ‘sharing wherever I see fit’ playlist… in my mind
If inklings are made entirely out of liquid, do they count as gender "fluid"?
This is video is extremely well put together, thank you so much for making it!
“Sillyman” is now entering my vocabulary
Very enlightening video. Purple!
Purple!! I fall under the Enby umbrella and so does my partner, and this was an EXTREMELY lovely video. You did great with the explanations and had lovely ideas regarding implementing gendered and non-gendered characters in media and gaming that I quite agree with. This was awesome!! Thank you so much!! 🎉 You’ve got a new sub
I’m gonna send this to my partner now, they don’t play a ton of games that don’t have character creators and thus haven’t seen much representation for people like them. My darling will love this 💕
as a nonbinary person myself, i 100 percent agree with everything in this video
also purple
Suits are literally the best clothing option ever no matter if your male or female. They look good regardless. Damn I love suits!
I desperately want 13:14 to be a gif, it's absolutely amazing. Same with the women wearing armor clip.
I adore this video so much and it taught me a lot about characters i never would've known while teaching me about characters i know but didn't know enough of (I freaking vibe with the enby in Chrono Trigger, that makes me wanna replay the game again and actually attempt to beat the thing.)
I hope someday i can become a game designer where i can add all of these factors into my games. It makes me happy seeing games growing into more inclusive options for all and i wanna give that same happiness to others in my own creations when needed!
Forgot to add Purple but i'm too lazy to edit comment so you get a reply to myself with it... Purple.
Purple and Gold are my favorite color. Yep, that's it. It ain't two colors it's just a singular color Purple & Gold/Yellow. Oop now it's a 3 in 1 color. I love being indecisive but still very decisive in my fav color(s) lmao
i really love these videos about inclusivity and representation dude, always top notch.
anyway my favorite nonbinanry character is kris deltarune. if i drank kris tea, i'd probably regenerate quite a bit of HP from that purple flavor.
Another thing I like about Rise is that you can put facial hair on your character no matter the body type! Which made me very happy as I gave my character (who I like to imagine is NB) the more feminine body and some stubble :D
I'd like to mention The Caligula Effect 2 has a canon transmasc non-binary character who's very well-handled :) other than that, great video ! This was very entertaining and cool to watch ^_^
I tend to refer to everyone as they/them unless I learn they prefer something else. Easy.
Usually when curious people pick up on it, they ask me about my pronouns, and I ask back. Easy.
Oh and in those purple situations. I uhh. Purp. Wait, what?