It's honestly upsetting how at the beginning he was offended when others interrupted him, but now he's doesn't care as much, because he's so used to it. ):
@@music2012pink do you think that the orange eyes are a logan thing or are the other sides gonna have them and if so what angst would you say could cause them to flash the orange eyes
Virgil politely telling Logan that now isn’t the time and actually being respectful, is the reason he’s one of my favourite characters. He’s the only one that doesn’t just completely shut him down, but he is also the one threatening Logan the most :(
I think he has an arc... Its just REALLY long, because think of it, he's Logic, he's bottling up his feelings, he can bottle up some of his anger, so, he WILL eventually snap, thats impossible to avoid, its just a matter of when
I have a theory. I think Logan being cut off all the time is one of the reasons why he doesn't show any emotion(apart from being logic) because he is cut off all the time, he is afraid to tell people how he's feeling, out of fear of being ignored, like he is all the time. He tells himself that just because he is logic, that he doesn't need feelings to pursue his goal, which is to help Thomas live a healthy life, he is in denial, and now it's like something he's completely inept to. He is slowly losing how to express the way he feels. He can only do so through anger, and sometimes fear.
@@loganhadley-choy6677 Just the whole being constantly ignored lol. It’s a running joke at this point that I’m invisible or like… a glitch in the matrix or smth 😅 I appreciate that btw. Very cool of u 😊💖💖
In Intrusive Thoughts though, they didn’t listen to him until things escalated so far they didn’t know what to say anymore, he’s only listened to when everything else is exhausted
The rap really got to me :,( :,( bc Logan basically tells Thomas that they are being negligent by not letting him finish, and Thomas tells him he hasn't accepted his temperament (or... personality, put very simply). He tells him to listen, even though they've cut him off so many times. OOHHHHHH THE HIDDEN ANGST
I Yes. He needs his arc so bad I'm gonna c r i. Just looking at the first episodes after the newer ones makes you realize how much he changed because of the way he's treated. HIS LITTLE "HI!" IN THE FIRST VIDEO AAAAGH
I really hate it how everyone crowds over Virgil. The fanders, I mean. It’s like Logan isn’t important at all- and I seriously don’t get them babying him because he’s emo or smth. That’s like, the opposite of what Virgil wants.
@@Kale6196 Yes! Please look at the others! Everyone is so fan of Virgil and Deceit, maybe Roman too for a bit Logan exist, Patton exist and Remus exist- we want more angsty fanfictions- except for Virgil, bad kitty-
@@painslut fr? I’ve seen pretty even love of all of the sides from this fandom. It seems like every group in this fandom thinks their fave is underrated, since I’ve seen some content of people complaining about Logan and Remus being crowded over even when the arc doesn’t revolve around them. Idk,,, it feels like the whole “Virgil is so popular” statement was more relevant back in 2018 then it is now lol
@@Kale6196 I dont see how people jump to baby Virgil. Hes my favourite because he looks cool and is relatable to me. Other than Virgil I love Logan (and Deceit) because they seem to ground Thomas the most in my eyes. None of the sides need babying in all honesty. I'm excited for Logan's arc (when/if he does get one) because I think it will do good for all the sides and the fanders.
This video is literally 9 minutes long, with a total of *85* times he's been shut up or cut off. Logan, throughout the series, has been toning himself down, because the other sides keep interrupting him and acting like his input doesnt matter. This most recent episode, he literally shows up as a box at the bottom of the screen, the least invasive thing he could possibly be. And then the entire episode the other sides constantly ignore him and talk over him. Patton literally skips him and forcibly removed him from the conversation. Logan came back clearly angry. He's sick of being shunned and shut up, if they don't want him around, then he'll just leave. Logan's going to either duck out or become the orange side.
I guess I just didn’t think you liked him all that much, I rarely see your posts. I love your style though! I used to hate Intrulogical until I saw some of your posts. Now I am indifferent towards it, mostly
I get so mad when Logan is interrupted/cut off because; 1. He needs to speak 2. Let him speak 3. Allow him to say things 4. I wanna know the facts he has to say- 5. Let me gain knowledge from him 6. LET 👏 HIM 👏 SPEAK
You know what else is really sad? Patton was the one who revealed Logan’s name, not Logan himself. Whereas all the other sides had a heart to heart with Thomas before they revealed their name, Logan was denied that (intentional or not) and it really bothers me!
I got to admit I don't think Logan would have ever revealed his name if not asked. Like he seems more bothered by the thought that Thomas would think his actual name is Logic. Or because he was interupted.
that didn't bother him, though. it's relatively easy to tell when Lo's upset and he did not seem upset there. it's possible he doesn't see name reveals as a big deal.
8:33 “Dealing With Intrusive Thoughts” takes up 24% OF THE CHART ARE YOU KIDDING that video could’ve ended in thirty seconds if they had just listened to Logan from the beginning 😔
The 2nd one is him being straight up ignored by Remus which makes him rage out, with Remus looking so pleased with himself/excited. Like he's trying to get him worked up, corrupt him as he's the only one who can deal with him.
exactly. virgils line of "just listen to us, this time" always pisses me off for that reason. like, you cant just tell someone to listen to you when you dont listen to them. thats not how that works. and he may be a bit arrogant, but he _is_ logic. he knows what hes talking about.
At 5:58 and 6:01 Remus wasn’t really cutting him off, he saw that Logan was having trouble coming up with the words to convey his point and Remus was helping him get his point across unlike the others who stop him before he can finish. Logan even took Remus’s goldfish suggestion when he couldn’t think of something on the spot.
Is it just me, or are the so-called "Dark Sides" the ones who try the most to keep Logan quiet? I mean, I suppose it makes sense. Logan disagrees with everyone from time to time, but Logic is a rather dangerous force against Deceit and Intrusive Thoughts. Their power comes from tricking and scaring Thomas, respectively, and Logan, with his intelligence, knowledge, and ability to keep a level head under duress is the most equipped to deal with them, protecting not only himself, but Thomas and the Light Sides from their influence. There's also the fact that Janus has those unnerving silencing powers of his, so...
But there's also in a sense,they know something about Logan. Especially in the episode with Logan being the main focus. Remus seems like he was trying and got what he wanted out of Logan. There ignoring him out of the need to.. discover.. something. Like.. Can a light side become a dark side,like how Virgil became a light side? Logan is the most accessible test subject for this study. Though I am probably incorrect, it's simple to see it's going in this same way.
We are told where Janus's power comes from, ironically by Logan, and its what Thomas wants to believe vs what he doesn't, and that's because Janus represents self preservation and in Putting Others First is just referred to as denial. so if Janus is actively silencing the literal embodiment of logic... i think we all know what that implies
I'm currently counting how often he's been denied/someone says he's wrong/someone is rude to him I'm halfway through the show, it's over 45 times so far Literally Logan's first thing ever was struck down: "Hello there, class!" "There is no class here." Also if you've come this far and you're interested in more Logan angst, I have an animatic on my channel uwu
Yeesh..... When you come to think about it, he’s practically being told to shut up 6 times an hour (if you take an extremely rough estimate) by his best friends/ family...... *This hurts me so much more now.....*
7:55 Anyone else notice how shook Roman looked when Patton skipped? I'm sure it was cause of the cane but he just was like"Dang Pat- didn't have to be THAT harsh"
Okay but the fact Patton cuts Logan off when he was reassuring that Virgil didn't need to share his name if he wasn't comfortable to is not only disrespectful to Logan but also to Virgil as he basically (although unintentionally) disregards Virgil's comfortability and feelings in favor of his own excitement.
They need to listen to our nerdy boi more! All their problems could be solved so much quicker if they didn’t ignore him so much! Also who else is just waiting for the moment that Logan just... snaps?
@@ScarScar... In my opinion, Logan is Logic, and he'll know that nothing good will come from him becoming a dark side. Also, even if Janus takes his place, Thomas cannot function without Logic or Common Sense. :) I expect Logan to snap and go on some rant or just start yelling about stuff. Also, I wonder if all the sides have powers or if it's just the dark sides? Like how Deceit can transform and silence people, Remus can muffle stuff and talk, and Virgil has that weird double voice..... so if Logan becomes a dark side, would he obtain a power too? HmMmMmMm
@@ScarScar... I think it would be cool to see his function (Logic) turn kinda bad due to pent up pressure, stress and low self esteem. But through the power of friendship, he’ll be okay (I guess)! I don’t think the series would make him a dark side permanently (or at least for some time) but if they did my heart would explode with Logan angst.
@HEIRESS WILLIAMS I used to make sanders sides videos, Logan Is my favorite, And I kept getting comments like "do a part to of dares and have virgil act like a darkside for the video! " and "Do a video where the sides react to angsty virgil videos" it made me sad tbh. Logan will ALWAYS BE MY FAVORITE!
Oh this..this just hurts me...he supposed to be logic! You need to listen to logic!! And if you keep ignoring it bad things will happen! I'm totally "not" foreshadowing the next episode we might not see it before but Logan was so ignore that he snaps in the last episode by interrupting Patton! When he was talking! But it's just a little theory that Logan will be a dark side and get his revenge on the light's! It's interesting nonetheless. Guess Will found out the next episode of sander sides...
It’s kind of sad. He’s only trying to help and do his job and he’s hated on for it. Like save my poor boy. Also when Virgil said “you’re the least favorite character and everyone knows it” I was so mad because he’s my favorite.
Logan is REALLY relatable and it’s depressing. I love him. SO FREAKING MUCH. Also the other sides insulting him all the time just- W H Y! JUST LET HIM S P E A K-
Wow. That is.. Upsetting. However taking into account the amount time he's been shut up by each character vs how many episodes each of those characters have been in changes things. Remus has been in one (not counting ATHD) and he's interrupted him a whopping 9 times, vs Roman who's been in almost every episode, and yet has only interrupted him 3x as much as Remus has. Just something I noticed. (Janus is a pretty good boy, he's been in quite a few episodes but only has interrupted him 3 times)
hes one of those people who starts infodumping and then cuts themselves off because "oh sorry this is probably stupid and i just keep *talking* and *talking* ......"
I realise that Roman has insecurity issues and all the drama that will come from SvS Redux, but I truly believe that it is Logan that will become truly unhinged. The amount of times he has been disregarded, forgotten, interrupted, made fun of and skipped (in that one instance) will eventually break even the strongest of characters
If you can make a 9 minute video about this there's either a problem or we know Thomas has a plan. Like there's technically 5 people on the light sides now. Logan is the most mistreated of them.
In Why Do We Get Out Of Bed In The Morning? at the 21 minute mark Logan starts on a passionate rant. Roman cuts him off at around 21:25. He doesn't cut off his sentence, but Logan clearly wasn't done, made even more clear at the abrupt change in music from Logan to Roman.
It upsets me on how this is all correct, and all, when I saw the time, I knew it was going to be all correct, witch upsets me, Logan is my favorite side. Every-one is doing Virgil/Patton, but where people get the Patton angst, there is A LOT of Logan angst that people tend to ignore.
Janus x Remus > Literally every other ship. Janus and Remus go together like butter and bread. Remus can't get offend and Janus seems to have an exception for him,as shown in the little bit where Janus invites Remus over,but, getting denied by Thomas. Also the deal line in DWIT.
No! My son! They really need to listen to Logan he's literally Thomas's logic! And he's the nicest to The darksides and excepts them even when the others don't! #Stfuandletlogantalk
It's sad to think that it doesn't get any better and in the 'Five Years' video, Logan even points it out. He flat out says that listening still needs to be worked on, and it's just one of the many things that he says that gets brushed off by everyone else.
and of course, hes right. i love them but dear god they are all SO bad at listening to each other. theyve been needing a very open, honest conversation about the way they treat each other and boundaries for a lonnngg time.
I bet he has a negative side that he hasn’t split from (Roman has remus, Patton has janus, etc.) and that’s going to be the introduction to the orange side
My heart breaks for Logan but I kinda love you for putting so much effort into this🥺💙 Istg Logan's gonna get so tired of all this he's gonna reach a breaking point someday... #loganprotectionsquad Also, this is one of the reasons I ship Logince so much HAHA
Would you consider making a compilation of all the times his ideas/presence are shot down, i.e. when everyone stops him from mentioning Remus or people ignoring him in certain scenes, etc.
Dude it makes me so sad that if you watch the first couple of vids Logan is so chipper and excited to be involved and introduced and now he's emotionless basically 😭😭😭
You know, the orange side could be someone who could manipulate Logan. Someone who Logan would agree with and make him feel wanted. That way, that side has easy access to Thomas's feelings.
And this is when I point out that Logan is the only "Light Side" who doesn't wear white somewhere on his outfit. Even Virgil has it, the threads on the edge of his jacket patches are white. But Logan doesn't. That aside, this video shouldn't be half as long as it is and that hurts us all, doesn't it?
The thing that’s even sadder is that even when he does get listened too they often ignore the fact that he was the one that helped and just brush past it once the problem has been solved
In SvS redux, Logan says "Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed, and don't want to talk about it. I am just here to deliver one last fact, then I will do you all a favor and spare you my company." He's used to this and acts like he doesn't care..
Sometimes i forget that Logan actually has genuine feelings and now i feel so bad because i feel horrible getting cut off or talked over. And now Logan is probably experiencing that, i feel so horrible
I'm writing a Logan angst one shot in which he's constantly ignored and dismissed and I *will* be linking this. 9 minutes of Logan being interrupted. Kinda proves the whole point and contributes to my idea :)
I absolutely LOVE that you took the time to break down the data at the end - I think Logan would be very proud (after he's done being upset anyway...) Thank you 💜
The last one though WAS Logan. He called Janus to HELP HIM. He couldn't get through with Logic and reasoning, and KNEW Thomas was literally damaging himself. He had to call the one who deals with Self Preservation.
It's honestly upsetting how at the beginning he was offended when others interrupted him, but now he's doesn't care as much, because he's so used to it. ):
That’s heart shattering
Maybe he was bottling it up, he definitely didn't like being ignored in the last episode 🔥
@@music2012pink you mean with the one with the orange eyes
@@latesonic2006 yeah
@@music2012pink do you think that the orange eyes are a logan thing or are the other sides gonna have them and if so what angst would you say could cause them to flash the orange eyes
Virgil politely telling Logan that now isn’t the time and actually being respectful, is the reason he’s one of my favourite characters. He’s the only one that doesn’t just completely shut him down, but he is also the one threatening Logan the most :(
And of course the almighty “I’m gonna prohibit your breathing if you keep this up”
That’s now one of my favorite lines xD
Woah! I never thought this would get so many likes! Thank you 😊
I mean, there was deleted line that said "we're gonna be discussing your funeral arrangements if you keep this up"
@jackmichael285 U! Virgil is my life
“I’ll do you all a favor and spare you my company” -Logan
(I swear to god if our sweet boy doesn’t get an arc I am going to LOOSE my MARBLES)
*Same tho bro*
I want him to snap and become a dark side though....
I think he has an arc... Its just REALLY long, because think of it, he's Logic, he's bottling up his feelings, he can bottle up some of his anger, so, he WILL eventually snap, thats impossible to avoid, its just a matter of when
@@ScarScar... We still have the elusive orange side knocking around somewhere.
SAME OMG 💔
I have a theory.
I think Logan being cut off all the time is one of the reasons why he doesn't show any emotion(apart from being logic) because he is cut off all the time, he is afraid to tell people how he's feeling, out of fear of being ignored, like he is all the time. He tells himself that just because he is logic, that he doesn't need feelings to pursue his goal, which is to help Thomas live a healthy life, he is in denial, and now it's like something he's completely inept to. He is slowly losing how to express the way he feels. He can only do so through anger, and sometimes fear.
That's excellent! And...SUPER SAD. 😢😭
… OH.
Yeah, that… no that explains why I relate to him despite being NOTHING like him personality-wise. Dang. Ok.
@@icchasaki I'll listen if you'd like to share : )
@@loganhadley-choy6677 Just the whole being constantly ignored lol. It’s a running joke at this point that I’m invisible or like… a glitch in the matrix or smth 😅
I appreciate that btw. Very cool of u 😊💖💖
What you just said about Logan is very relevant, if you haven't seen the "Working Through Intrusive Thoughts" ep.
That's it.thats the whole show
(Apart from intrusive thoughts)
Even then, it took then so long to actually listen to him instead of cutting him off.
In Intrusive Thoughts though, they didn’t listen to him until things escalated so far they didn’t know what to say anymore, he’s only listened to when everything else is exhausted
and the new intrusive thoughts video is literally about how he’s not being listened to. i am so wildly upset.
The rap really got to me :,( :,( bc Logan basically tells Thomas that they are being negligent by not letting him finish, and Thomas tells him he hasn't accepted his temperament (or... personality, put very simply). He tells him to listen, even though they've cut him off so many times. OOHHHHHH THE HIDDEN ANGST
HOLY SHIT
LOGAN NO-
AAHHH-
ANY TIPS ON HOW TO HUG FICTIONAL CHARACTERS!?-
@@Boltofmercury BUILD A DOCTOR WHO TARDIS AND TRAVEL TO THEIR DIMENSION. ITS WHAT I'M GONNA DO SOME DAY.
He also said "if you'd let them finish" YOU HYPOCRITE-
Oh my gosh NOOOO!!!!!! That's so awful poor Logan!!!!
I
Yes.
He needs his arc so bad I'm gonna c r i. Just looking at the first episodes after the newer ones makes you realize how much he changed because of the way he's treated. HIS LITTLE "HI!" IN THE FIRST VIDEO AAAAGH
I really hate it how everyone crowds over Virgil. The fanders, I mean. It’s like Logan isn’t important at all- and I seriously don’t get them babying him because he’s emo or smth. That’s like, the opposite of what Virgil wants.
@@Kale6196
Yes! Please look at the others!
Everyone is so fan of Virgil and Deceit, maybe Roman too for a bit
Logan exist, Patton exist and Remus exist-
we want more angsty fanfictions- except for Virgil, bad kitty-
@@painslut fr? I’ve seen pretty even love of all of the sides from this fandom. It seems like every group in this fandom thinks their fave is underrated, since I’ve seen some content of people complaining about Logan and Remus being crowded over even when the arc doesn’t revolve around them. Idk,,, it feels like the whole “Virgil is so popular” statement was more relevant back in 2018 then it is now lol
Omg same
@@Kale6196 I dont see how people jump to baby Virgil. Hes my favourite because he looks cool and is relatable to me. Other than Virgil I love Logan (and Deceit) because they seem to ground Thomas the most in my eyes. None of the sides need babying in all honesty. I'm excited for Logan's arc (when/if he does get one) because I think it will do good for all the sides and the fanders.
This video is literally 9 minutes long, with a total of *85* times he's been shut up or cut off.
Logan, throughout the series, has been toning himself down, because the other sides keep interrupting him and acting like his input doesnt matter. This most recent episode, he literally shows up as a box at the bottom of the screen, the least invasive thing he could possibly be. And then the entire episode the other sides constantly ignore him and talk over him. Patton literally skips him and forcibly removed him from the conversation.
Logan came back clearly angry. He's sick of being shunned and shut up, if they don't want him around, then he'll just leave.
Logan's going to either duck out or become the orange side.
holy yes i would like flip my lid if that happened
FANFIC TIME.
oh god thomas without any logic at all
Quack
the thumbnail of Putting Others First tho
Top ten videos that make me cry
You like Logan? Wow I didn’t think you did, nice
@@saraalam8372 whaaa how did you think i didnt like logan?? i post about him like, a lot
I guess I just didn’t think you liked him all that much, I rarely see your posts. I love your style though! I used to hate Intrulogical until I saw some of your posts. Now I am indifferent towards it, mostly
Oh hi-
Oh, nice to see you here!
I get so mad when Logan is interrupted/cut off because;
1. He needs to speak
2. Let him speak
3. Allow him to say things
4. I wanna know the facts he has to say-
5. Let me gain knowledge from him
6. LET 👏 HIM 👏 SPEAK
I mean he’s LITERALLY the voice of reason
@@Duck-mn8xp T r u t h
Yes, like when he was talking about blood diamonds. I wanted to know what he was going to say!
@@geererdway ikr!! I love hearing him talk about things I don’t know
@@geererdway I wanted to know too, I didn't even know blood diamonds existed before then!
You know what else is really sad? Patton was the one who revealed Logan’s name, not Logan himself. Whereas all the other sides had a heart to heart with Thomas before they revealed their name, Logan was denied that (intentional or not) and it really bothers me!
Okay wow
Yeah that's not sad at all
*tearing up* yeahh not sad at all 😢
To be honest it’s like outing someone as gay to they’re family
What if they aren’t ready etc
No, I never thought of that before, now I know and I'm even more upset--
I got to admit I don't think Logan would have ever revealed his name if not asked. Like he seems more bothered by the thought that Thomas would think his actual name is Logic. Or because he was interupted.
that didn't bother him, though. it's relatively easy to tell when Lo's upset and he did not seem upset there. it's possible he doesn't see name reveals as a big deal.
The second I looked at the video's length, I knew this was going to be realistic.(Also, I live for Logan angst so thank you)
I too, live for Logan angst
Same!
Oh cool same!
same!
i’d you have not watched the new sanders asides and you like logan angst still watch it
8:33 “Dealing With Intrusive Thoughts” takes up 24% OF THE CHART ARE YOU KIDDING that video could’ve ended in thirty seconds if they had just listened to Logan from the beginning 😔
Plot gotta plot, but yeah...😭😭
The 2nd one is him being straight up ignored by Remus which makes him rage out, with Remus looking so pleased with himself/excited. Like he's trying to get him worked up, corrupt him as he's the only one who can deal with him.
exactly. virgils line of "just listen to us, this time" always pisses me off for that reason. like, you cant just tell someone to listen to you when you dont listen to them. thats not how that works.
and he may be a bit arrogant, but he _is_ logic. he knows what hes talking about.
At 5:58 and 6:01 Remus wasn’t really cutting him off, he saw that Logan was having trouble coming up with the words to convey his point and Remus was helping him get his point across unlike the others who stop him before he can finish. Logan even took Remus’s goldfish suggestion when he couldn’t think of something on the spot.
Is it just me, or are the so-called "Dark Sides" the ones who try the most to keep Logan quiet? I mean, I suppose it makes sense. Logan disagrees with everyone from time to time, but Logic is a rather dangerous force against Deceit and Intrusive Thoughts. Their power comes from tricking and scaring Thomas, respectively, and Logan, with his intelligence, knowledge, and ability to keep a level head under duress is the most equipped to deal with them, protecting not only himself, but Thomas and the Light Sides from their influence.
There's also the fact that Janus has those unnerving silencing powers of his, so...
Makes sense
Yeah, Remus literally ignores him until he rages out 🔥 and looks so wickedly pleased with himself/excited
Pretty powerful against Anxiety too. Though now they're working together. (Which is adorable and I love it.)
But there's also in a sense,they know something about Logan. Especially in the episode with Logan being the main focus. Remus seems like he was trying and got what he wanted out of Logan. There ignoring him out of the need to.. discover.. something. Like..
Can a light side become a dark side,like how Virgil became a light side?
Logan is the most accessible test subject for this study. Though I am probably incorrect, it's simple to see it's going in this same way.
We are told where Janus's power comes from, ironically by Logan, and its what Thomas wants to believe vs what he doesn't, and that's because Janus represents self preservation and in Putting Others First is just referred to as denial. so if Janus is actively silencing the literal embodiment of logic... i think we all know what that implies
I would listen to him infodump
and give him a hug. Someone give him a hug please
He needs a hug so bad
21. 21 is the amount of times PATTON cut off Logan.
7:54 I JUST REALISED THAT THE SKIP ALL OPTION WAS JANUS'S COLORS! Could have been Janus making himself an option and Patton chose it.
And look at Roman's face, he knows something's...not quite right
HOLY FLIP I NEVER NOTICED THAT BEFORE!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!
I mean, our lovely snake boy did take over in the episode, so that's a good point. Maybe that button was his way of getting an invite.
It would make sense... choosing to be desinformated is actually choosing deceit, choosing not knowing the truth is an invitation to believe lies.
well yeah when Patton presses the button the staff Janus had does grab Logan
I'm currently counting how often he's been denied/someone says he's wrong/someone is rude to him
I'm halfway through the show, it's over 45 times so far
Literally Logan's first thing ever was struck down:
"Hello there, class!"
"There is no class here."
Also if you've come this far and you're interested in more Logan angst, I have an animatic on my channel uwu
Alrighty then, I'll check it out 😉
I do not have the heart to watch the first episode to refresh my memory so I'm gonna pretend Logan said that in a happy voice.
@@stanpounceburr4991 HE DID SAY IT IN A HAPPY VOICE
@@ice_wolfie yeah he said it in the most excited tone of voice only to be immediately shot down
Yeesh.....
When you come to think about it, he’s practically being told to shut up 6 times an hour (if you take an extremely rough estimate) by his best friends/ family......
*This hurts me so much more now.....*
What’s worse is that they’re his *only* friends and family.....
I feel worse now....
That’s a mood for me
Oh my gosh....
@@cyansilver3894 oh *NO* 😭
The fact that there is more than 8 minutes of this is sad
The fact that this video has to exist at all is sad. Not hating on the creator, I love Logan angst. And Logan.
Well this is just depressing
Also, the most angsty moment for me that I can't find ANYWHERE was him bursting out with "I'm not a joke!". That. Was a double gut punch.
that killed me. i died.
😭
Now I truly understand Logan’s rage when he screams *”STOP IGNORING ME!!!”*
Logan 👏 needs 👏 more 👏 love 👏 and 👏 acceptance 👏 from 👏 everyone 👏
Hell yea ( as a logan stan I agree)
7:55
Anyone else notice how shook Roman looked when Patton skipped? I'm sure it was cause of the cane but he just was like"Dang Pat- didn't have to be THAT harsh"
What about this one
Logan: “I thought you said...”
Remus: “I changed my mind. I'm unpredictable like that”
Okay but the fact Patton cuts Logan off when he was reassuring that Virgil didn't need to share his name if he wasn't comfortable to is not only disrespectful to Logan but also to Virgil as he basically (although unintentionally) disregards Virgil's comfortability and feelings in favor of his own excitement.
D: … D:< this bIT-
Me:
Oh this video gonna hurt.
I'm gonna watch it.
“E=MCSCARED!!” Always makes me laugh, but I feel bad for Logan.
This video is so long it hurts :(
They need to listen to our nerdy boi more! All their problems could be solved so much quicker if they didn’t ignore him so much!
Also who else is just waiting for the moment that Logan just... snaps?
What if he becomes a dark side when he snaps?
@@ScarScar... In my opinion, Logan is Logic, and he'll know that nothing good will come from him becoming a dark side. Also, even if Janus takes his place, Thomas cannot function without Logic or Common Sense. :)
I expect Logan to snap and go on some rant or just start yelling about stuff. Also, I wonder if all the sides have powers or if it's just the dark sides? Like how Deceit can transform and silence people, Remus can muffle stuff and talk, and Virgil has that weird double voice..... so if Logan becomes a dark side, would he obtain a power too? HmMmMmMm
@@sayonara9052 I just thought it would be cool
@@ScarScar... I think it would be cool to see his function (Logic) turn kinda bad due to pent up pressure, stress and low self esteem. But through the power of friendship, he’ll be okay (I guess)! I don’t think the series would make him a dark side permanently (or at least for some time) but if they did my heart would explode with Logan angst.
Time for fanfics. Get the keyboards.
Damn that's more than I thought-
@HEIRESS WILLIAMS I used to make sanders sides videos, Logan Is my favorite, And I kept getting comments like "do a part to of dares and have virgil act like a darkside for the video! " and "Do a video where the sides react to angsty virgil videos" it made me sad tbh. Logan will ALWAYS BE MY FAVORITE!
@@violetana6969 exactly!
This is the only not crying comment in this whole comments section
Oh this..this just hurts me...he supposed to be logic! You need to listen to logic!! And if you keep ignoring it bad things will happen! I'm totally "not" foreshadowing the next episode we might not see it before but Logan was so ignore that he snaps in the last episode by interrupting Patton! When he was talking! But it's just a little theory that Logan will be a dark side and get his revenge on the light's! It's interesting nonetheless. Guess Will found out the next episode of sander sides...
true. he hasn't shown up in person since the first aside video.
WRITERS. TO YOUR KEYBOARDS. FANFIC/EPISODE IDEA TIME.
Well something it slipping through the cracks. And that could be rage, if the last episode had anything to go by.
@@anonymousperidot7446 I think it might be rage or obsession
It’s kind of sad. He’s only trying to help and do his job and he’s hated on for it. Like save my poor boy. Also when Virgil said “you’re the least favorite character and everyone knows it” I was so mad because he’s my favorite.
The dark sides are my favorite but I still have a ton of respect for logan
the most serious character getting taken the least seriously is so sad to me. logan deserves everything
Logan is REALLY relatable and it’s depressing. I love him. SO FREAKING MUCH. Also the other sides insulting him all the time just-
W H Y! JUST LET HIM S P E A K-
Wow. That is.. Upsetting.
However taking into account the amount time he's been shut up by each character vs how many episodes each of those characters have been in changes things. Remus has been in one (not counting ATHD) and he's interrupted him a whopping 9 times, vs Roman who's been in almost every episode, and yet has only interrupted him 3x as much as Remus has. Just something I noticed.
(Janus is a pretty good boy, he's been in quite a few episodes but only has interrupted him 3 times)
intrusive thoughts interrupting logic is pretty darn symbolic
me, seeing the length of this video: i am devastated but not surprised
hes one of those people who starts infodumping and then cuts themselves off because "oh sorry this is probably stupid and i just keep *talking* and *talking* ......"
I relate to Logan so much. Especially when I want to share a fact/knowledge.
I realise that Roman has insecurity issues and all the drama that will come from SvS Redux, but I truly believe that it is Logan that will become truly unhinged. The amount of times he has been disregarded, forgotten, interrupted, made fun of and skipped (in that one instance) will eventually break even the strongest of characters
If you can make a 9 minute video about this there's either a problem or we know Thomas has a plan. Like there's technically 5 people on the light sides now. Logan is the most mistreated of them.
I feel so bad for Logan because I'm in about 2 minutes in and he has been cut off /told to shut up over 20 times-
In Why Do We Get Out Of Bed In The Morning? at the 21 minute mark Logan starts on a passionate rant. Roman cuts him off at around 21:25. He doesn't cut off his sentence, but Logan clearly wasn't done, made even more clear at the abrupt change in music from Logan to Roman.
It upsets me on how this is all correct, and all, when I saw the time, I knew it was going to be all correct, witch upsets me, Logan is my favorite side. Every-one is doing Virgil/Patton, but where people get the Patton angst, there is A LOT of Logan angst that people tend to ignore.
I was shocked when i saw it was 8 minutes....they rpy need to appreciate him more
I used to ship Logicality, but that had drastically decreased since SvS.
they still care about each other, things are just.. rough, since the court scenario
Ow, why?-
I apologize for giggling.
Janus x Remus > Literally every other ship.
Janus and Remus go together like butter and bread. Remus can't get offend and Janus seems to have an exception for him,as shown in the little bit where Janus invites Remus over,but, getting denied by Thomas. Also the deal line in DWIT.
pattons relationships with everyone is a little tense lol
No! My son! They really need to listen to Logan he's literally Thomas's logic! And he's the nicest to The darksides and excepts them even when the others don't! #Stfuandletlogantalk
The fact that this is almost 10 minutes is making me feel so sorry for Logan-
it’s making me extremely upset that this is almost 9 minutes long. stop hurting him.
It's sad to think that it doesn't get any better and in the 'Five Years' video, Logan even points it out.
He flat out says that listening still needs to be worked on, and it's just one of the many things that he says that gets brushed off by everyone else.
and of course, hes right. i love them but dear god they are all SO bad at listening to each other. theyve been needing a very open, honest conversation about the way they treat each other and boundaries for a lonnngg time.
Yeah, you get it@@bumbabees.
I bet he has a negative side that he hasn’t split from (Roman has remus, Patton has janus, etc.) and that’s going to be the introduction to the orange side
The fact this is almost 9 minutes long is sad.
Now we need a video of where he was actually listened to. I know my favorite clip will be Virgil pointing out what he said about Max Sterner.
I'd think anyone else would lose it after like the 5th time. This man has amazing patience.
“ngl I think he’s gonna break down soon”
Working Through Intrusive Thoughts: 👀
The fact that I'm only a few min in and that the counter is almost 50 is quite upsetting....this poor boi needs to be listened to.
I'm just now realizing how much this happens. And now I'm sad
Same D,:
Gosh- it’s only been 2 minutes and 26 seconds and he’s already been cut off/stopped 22 times. MY POOR LO-LO DOESNT DESERVE THIS
My heart breaks for Logan but I kinda love you for putting so much effort into this🥺💙 Istg Logan's gonna get so tired of all this he's gonna reach a breaking point someday... #loganprotectionsquad
Also, this is one of the reasons I ship Logince so much HAHA
#loganprotectionsquad (also I ship logince too)
@@BlueIndigo
Aye! It's such an underrated ship xD
Maggie Lin SO TRUEEE
Would you consider making a compilation of all the times his ideas/presence are shot down, i.e. when everyone stops him from mentioning Remus or people ignoring him in certain scenes, etc.
Or like when he's insulted or his mistakes are brought up
Dude it makes me so sad that if you watch the first couple of vids Logan is so chipper and excited to be involved and introduced and now he's emotionless basically 😭😭😭
You know, the orange side could be someone who could manipulate Logan. Someone who Logan would agree with and make him feel wanted. That way, that side has easy access to Thomas's feelings.
O h
Well, well, well... How fine this comment have aged...
@@theantagonist2589 omg I forgot I even made this comment
I predicted it
(Also love your username lol)
This hits harder after the newest Sanders Asides video
I’m literally crying poor bby needs to be listened to for once in his life he needs it so badly
And this is when I point out that Logan is the only "Light Side" who doesn't wear white somewhere on his outfit. Even Virgil has it, the threads on the edge of his jacket patches are white. But Logan doesn't.
That aside, this video shouldn't be half as long as it is and that hurts us all, doesn't it?
I can't believe we never realized how poor Logan has been cut off let's not count how many in one episode. 😂
"STOP! IGNORING! ME! 💥💥" - Logan 2021
Honestly, after all this; can you blame for losing his temper?! 🔥
“Why don’t you read the book, and see if you still need to correct me.” Is my fav Logan line ❤😂
5:38
The thing that’s even sadder is that even when he does get listened too they often ignore the fact that he was the one that helped and just brush past it once the problem has been solved
I can totally see the outcome of "Working with intrusive thoughts" now. Poor Logan, I believe he will have something to do with the next conflict.
our amazing nerd needs to be heard and listened to more 🥺
this is waaay too many times, Logan has and will be my favorite side. Yet the others kinda bully him
In SvS redux, Logan says "Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed, and don't want to talk about it. I am just here to deliver one last fact, then I will do you all a favor and spare you my company." He's used to this and acts like he doesn't care..
Bro, one day Logan is gonna snap and I can't wait to see that happen
I’m terrified I like Logan and I don’t want him hurt
Roman: *with a cocky grin* Oh, hush, sub-astute teacher!
Me: *hissing*
Roman: Geek Squad!? More like Squadless Geek! Hahahaha, YOU'RE ALONE!!!!
Me: *bites him*
Mood.
Time to eat some creativity.
@@littlelollypop4171 boutta get past that creative block
Okay but can we talk about how appropriate it was that the 69th cut off was in dealing with intrusive thoughts
Watching this almost a year later, guys we got the start of his arc
Finally lmao
This is just sad ughhhh I love Logan so much I can't wait for his arc!
Also I just realized how much I relate to him...
It’s really sad how he becomes less expressive over time
ITS OVER EIGHT MINUTES LONG I'M CRYING
*saves this for future reference*
Sometimes i forget that Logan actually has genuine feelings and now i feel so bad because i feel horrible getting cut off or talked over. And now Logan is probably experiencing that, i feel so horrible
this video has become incredibly relevant..i want to hold logan gently like burger
That sweet sweet Logan angst. Love the vid!
the fact that this is almost nine minutes though... that shows how much Logan was shut up/cut off.
2:03 *E=MCscared* That's gonna be my new favorite lines
This made me really sad omg
I'm writing a Logan angst one shot in which he's constantly ignored and dismissed and I *will* be linking this. 9 minutes of Logan being interrupted. Kinda proves the whole point and contributes to my idea :)
here, done: my.w.tt/DSpetC67cbb
it's chapter 5, "Silent cry"
the video is at the top and then there are 3094 words of ~angst~
The story is really good
@@guadaamin That was great angst! Just finished reading it. I loved it. Very well-written.
I absolutely LOVE that you took the time to break down the data at the end - I think Logan would be very proud (after he's done being upset anyway...)
Thank you
💜
The last one though WAS Logan. He called Janus to HELP HIM. He couldn't get through with Logic and reasoning, and KNEW Thomas was literally damaging himself. He had to call the one who deals with Self Preservation.
Its sad that this video is longer than a few episodes and multiple other compilations
Geez, no wonder people suddenly want Logan to become a Dark Side.
I love that Virgi hides himself laughing
Loving that the 69th time was with Remus in frame :)
"you survived the angst!!"
no, no i didnt.
Virgil used to be fav back when I was a teenager. Now that I'm 21, Logan has taken that place. He takes such good care of Thomas, I love him
Man… this hits differently after the newest episode