Serial Killers in Austin, TX and Portland, OR?
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- Join us and special guest, Dustin Ranck, as we identify the serial killer in Austin, Texas and look into a potential serial killer in Portland, Oregon.
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Thank you John for covering this. I was born and raised in Austin and my mom and dad lived in Allandale neighborhood for years. Used to hit Sixth Street for years as a teen and it was always a bit ominous but very seemingly safe in the 70’s and early 80’s. My son attended UT Austin for last 4 years and he and his friends were well aware of Rainey Street murders. I’m interested in True Crime and investigative work - so this is a great piece. Thanks again.
No, Thank you,Judy.
I am a former LEO in Oregon. We had a potential serial killer in the 90's that was convicted of two murders but suspected of possibly 30 more. Former long haul truck driver. Look into Scott Cox, he is out of prison now and paroled near where the Mill Creek victim was found. My gut just keeps screaming that someone needs to look at him. Look him up online, there are several articles about him being suspected of multiple more murders. He was paroled to Yamhill County.
If I remember correctly, John Arthur Akroyd hunted along the Hwy 20 corridor in the 80's and 90's. and worked I for ODOT or one of the highway maintenance crews in the area. That's certainly not the 18 and 22 corridor near Mill Creek but it wouldn't surprise me if Cox, or someone like him, could be working out there at this time. I've traveled and ridden those roads so frequently that I could do them in my sleep. Even now, with the population boom of Portland and the surrounding areas, including Salem and the Willamette valley in general, there are stretches of highway out there that are very low profile and would be an incredibly easy environment for a predator to operate in. Thanks for comment and checking out the show!
Portland here...he was paroled? Why? 😖 this makes me crazy. There are people who will never get out of prison alive and didn't murder. The sentencing sometimes makes no sense. Incredible. I'm sure he's reformed though...🙄
I work in a warehouse a block away from where Ms. Speaks was found in Ridgefield. Dollar Tree's distribution center is directly across the road. You'd notice the property if you were there delivering or local. There's no reason to be there otherwise. It has to be a truck driver or delivery driver that scopes these local spots.
@@miapdx503 He was a frequent flier in the jail for years before and even at the time he was caught. Model prisoner, always a trustee or on work release. We were stunned when he became a suspect. The murders were out of the Portland area (sex workers), but he resided in Yamhill County (Newberg). Newberg is approx 45 mins/an hour south of Portland. I believe he is now in the Sheridan or Grande Ronde area (don't quote me on that, I no longer work for the county). We actually had to move him from Work Release to Max Security at the time of the arrest for the murders if I remember correctly.
@@miapdx503 Yeah, no kidding right?!
I’m glad that you are doing a great job of getting awareness for these victims and survivors and raising awareness for people who have been murdered
John Kelly is AWESOME!!
Thank's for having Dustin on. He'll be a good addition to the world of profiling.
Thanks for the kind words, John has been massively inspirational as you can imagine!
Hey Dustin, Thanks for being on! You're doing it, brother!
@@JohnKellyProfiler Thank you brother for having me on again as well as the inspiration to move ahead with things!
Thank you for talking about these cases. I live close to Portland and believe based on timing, location of bodies that were found this could be tied to a serial killer. I always hope that it's not true, but do we want to ignore anything that links them together. 100 miles is no big deal in this area, it's really small if a person knows this area.
For sure, Portland can be a really small town actually if you know how to maneuver around in it as well as the surrounding areas. Hopefully more information will start to surface sooner, rather than later.
100 miles isn't far for a serial killer to travel anyway. Used to write them on death row to get inside their heads.
I am a runner in Portland Metro area. Thank you for looking into these deaths. My dog will be running with me for now on.
Good idea and great comment. P-town isn’t the easy going place it once was. I never went any place there for the last 20yrs. without some level of threat protection. Now, it’s absolutely bonkers. Thanks for taking time to check out the show!
Rock on, Dustin! 🙌💯 Getting an education is always a fantastic idea. Best of luck!
Thanks for the kind words! I just got everything finalized and am starting in the fall. It's going to be pretty awesome! 🤟
Homeless people really know their area. They spend a lot of time wandering around, seeing who comes and goes and what is going on. Like Dustin said, you certainly get shifts of people. For example, dog walkers/joggers etc, people just knocking off work, the lunch and dinner crew etc, the Friday night/weekend party people, If that helps people understand what he's talking about.
Sounds like there are a lot of vulnerable people late at night on the weekends, who could be drunk or drugged, right next to an unlit and dark waterway/green area.
What a very unusual choice for commiting suicide...
Yes and like prostitutes and drug dealers there is a lot of communication in this network right alongside the John's some who are pimping and some from outlying areas wealthier people who own businesses and come into the populated areas for services quote-unquote
Those are great examples of the local shift change!
There are definitely people as the evening wears on, that are, or become extremely vulnerable.
12:12 - "Even if you're still near the bike path, if you make your way down to the waterfront, in some of these little 'access points'. Man, I mean, there's a lot of foliage... there's trees, there's bushes. You know? There's a lot of obscure line of sight. Plus it's dark too, it's black as night."
Yeah a killer's 'control zone' or 'control area'... yeah sounds like a perfect place for that. Austin has neighborhoods with high rises and high density urban. Part of the problem with this dynamic, is overpopulation; as the cranes keep making these high rises, the hiding spots, the shadows between the buildings.... gets even darker... combined with a high population (with subsequent high rates of homelessness along with it); this could become a 'hunting ground' if you will
Recently there was a video ["Soft White Underbelly" channel?) about a fellow who survived John Wayne Gacy. The man told of being a street smart young teen in Tennessee. Gacy visited the community more than once. He invited the teen to his room to have a beer and the boy soon realized Gacy planned some kind of bondage. Anyway, this man noted that there had been a number of drownings of young men at the local lake and it was his opinion that not all these cases were accidental.
This reminded me of the rumors about the Texas lake, that a number of young men have drowned. Maybe a Gacy type offender is operating around there.
I saw that episode. My heart went out to that man. He told his story so beautifully. Very engaging person.
There was a woman who interviewed and she fought and got 2 serial killers busted
Two of the victims in the Portland area were found only a mile, maybe a few miles apart off the same road, and they supposedly LE has put two of the girls having been at the same location.... separately though, but I believe you're right John about there being a serial killer too.
My middle daughter was homeless (or houseless as she told me they like to say. For the last 8 years of her life. We live in Portland Oregon, but she lived up and down the West Coast. She liked the lifestyle. There is a lot of closeness in the community. I wouldn’t like it. But I am not a camper in summer. I like bathrooms, and showers, brushing my teeth first thing in the morning. But, there IS a closeness. We r losing people into that lifestyle for a lot of reasons.
Displacement / disconnection has lots of side effects and you are totally correct. That's a great point. Thank you for watching the show.
I agree, that's not a way to commit su!cide by drowning.
Also, it's dark there and the victim's families YEARS AGO (when the 1st bodies were found) were complaining about this and begged for the city to step up and get the area lit up to prevent future incidents but they didn't and now look where we are!!! What a shame!
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Great to see another show with John Kelly! Keep 'em coming!
John, thanks again for the great conversation, it’s always an honor to join you and your audience here on the channel.
It’s going to be interesting to see what develops around Austin as well as Meza.
Take care brother!
It would have been nice to hear more from you.
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Awesome to see you too, Dustin! The bad guys need to take heed!
@@misskitty2133 Thank you MK2133!
@@MsAmericanthinker We had some tech issues, ( mostly on my end ), but John was able to fill it out with his awesome analysis as usual. Thank you for checking out the show! It's tough to gauge time when John and I get to talking as we exchange ideas really well and it could literally go on for hours lol. Hopefully a follow up in the near future.
Thank you John. Have enjoyed watching your videos since seeing you on Grizzly True Crime. Love hearing your take on things & the deep compassion you obviously have for the victims & their loved ones. Excellent guest. Too bad about the technical difficulties, you handled things expertly of course though. I do hope you’ll have him back. Take care.
Ehhh..😀 Shout Out G and my other Grizzlies!!
Grizzly True Crime is where I first found John..😏
Gritty and real, voice of experience. None of this sashaying down an alley Intro like you're trying to get a TV series. Dustin should do really well in his criminal justice studies because he knows the streets👍🏻
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Thank you for the props and checking out the show. I think it John really killed it in his analysis too. I mean, he always does, but this was a good one! I've had the pleasure and privilege of working, and running with, some of the best out there. It's all about respect, being kind to others and not judging someones situation. There is also a current of intel that circulates beneath the surface that's important to pay attention to as it's not always going to be delivered in a standard manner for many reasons.
One thing that stands out to me that you also mentioned about the Idaho Four murders is the idea of someone entering the scene and changing their system. I have never heard any criminal profiler or anyone in true crime ever talk about that!!! That is SO thought provoking and it makes
so much sense. I think it goes even beyond murders, I think it could apply to any unforeseen tragic events. It's just the way our universe works! Love hearing your unique insights!
That is terrible, John. All these operating at once? Frightening. So glad you made a video. Please be safe.
Absolutely riveting show guys, thank you so much!
Thanks for watching the show! John really nailed it on quite a few topics during our discussion!
There was a body found at Shoal Creek just yesterday too, 😢 🙏 hope these families get answers
Yes, that is a topic of some serious interest.
Is that within the area of the other murders?
@@Just_Peachy8777 It most definitely is. The body found in Shoal Creek was approximately 3.7 from Rainey St. and is a feeder waterway to the Colorado / Lady Bird Lake. Not far whatsoever. Is it related? We don't know yet and there are no other deets yet available.
So glad to see a new video by you! My prayers for the victims. 🙏❤️🙏❤️
I have been waiting for this. I checked your channel a few days ago thinking I may have missed you putting something out. I value what you have to say and I think you are spot on. Thank you for your hard work. God Bless you both.
Hey Katie, Many Thanks !
I can’t understand stand how Meza was released. Yeah I get good behavior and such. But he rape and murdered a 8 year old little girl.
He only got 30 years and got out because he was behaving. Hell he would have never been there if he was “Behaving “ in the first place.
Sorry I am unset and mad….
A little soul was lost and many others.
In Texas no less.
Exactly. It breaks my heart. There's no good behavior anymore after you've done a hideous thing like that.
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Thanks for covering this story. I live in the small town of Pflugerville, Tx where he confessed to killing resident Jess Fraga. So scary this guy was walking around so close to home. Not the way we wanted our town on the map. The last big story surrounding our small town was the Austin serial bomber who lived in Pflugerville.
Well there's some chick a prostitute that goes by Briannia B from Pfugerville. Famous photos of her in Hunter Biden's Lap top. Marco Polo published a book with her name and town in it. I love Texas but this sickness is worldwide.
The one that was in the barn she's 10 miles from my house that's very close. I think we need to know what's going on.
After years of being subscribed to your channel, tonight you are top!
I remember when the ladies wore their jewelry and shoes and bags and furs to dine and dance!
Thanks John! I'd say that you have the best general info on TH-cam on the six recent Portland deaths starting at 51:00 and a great way to possibly confirm a serial killer at 57:00. I just want you to know that two of the six dead women (Kristin Smith and the unidentified woman) were both found on SE Favel St separated by 2.2 miles, so we're not down to the 0.25 miles that you warned about, but it is getting close.
I also wanted to mention that your reference to the Green River Killer (Gary Ridgway) and how these types of killers do ridiculous amounts of driving sounds frighteningly accurate. And, partly because of that, a killer of this type might take a while to repeat on a dump site. Here, it is possible that SE Flavel St (off I-205) is already a repeat, but he was willing to drive about 2 extra miles to keep things a little separate. Please do come back to this set of cases again. I'd guess that, based on your experience, the more you study the details of these six women, the more convinced you will be that at least two of the cases are connected.
Great and informative show!!!!
Thank you Mr. Kelly. We are still out there observing as well.
Good coverage on these two crisis situations John! Your insight is keen as ever ❤️
TY for sharing your expertise. Another great video. Loved hearing from your guest, too. He was well-spoken & informative.
Thanks for the kind words and taking time to check out the show. John really had some great insights on Meza!
Thank you this video and bringing awareness. Great boots on the ground info.
Thanks for watching, that place still has its charm but dang, it's changed a lot!
Great chat! 👍
Congratulations on your new profession Dustin! Thank you John for all of your insights about sk’s.
Hey @aprilclare1150, thanks for watching!
⚖️⚖️⚖️😡Why do they let people out like this. They nto make more prisons!!
Thank you.
❤ I can't wait to watch this! Thanks Mr Kelly! You're the type of person that reminds me there is life after addiction. It reminds me that I can still do something interesting with my life. Thanks ⭐
Thank you, you always make my day! God Bless!!
God Bless, MissKitty and Many Thanks
Thanks for the video. TH-cam didn't show me that you had uploaded this video.
Hey Vtpsttu, They def drop te ball at times. Many Thanks
John - so good you have Dustin, as feet on the ground really makes a difference to the crime scene we imagine but is not true in real life
Thanks for watching! I know A-town really well and when your out walking, literally the same geography and haunts as the victims, it's takes on a different perspective for sure.
It’s crazy how many serial killers there are , all over the world, I’m personally wrapped up in the Long Island serial killer/s more than one killer imo 😢✝️
Is there still new info coming out about L. I. S. K.?
Hey George, We're waiting. Hopefully sooner than later. Many Thanks
Thank you for your contribution to us ❤
Hey Katherinemnusa, We're honored to help. Many Thanks
@@JohnKellyProfiler will you be doing an update for Bridge Guy since his confession to his wife?
Thank you guys!!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Mr kelly, extremely professional.
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Mister Kelly, mi amor! I’ve been waiting with bated breath for this video and you didn’t disappoint! So WOW, they caught a serial. Always great news. Thanks for having Dustin on your show, you guys work very well together, I think. Best regards to you & the Fur Posse. Michelle in Boston
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Hey MissKitty213, Your the best! Yes, Dustin is great. Many thanks for all your kudos
They should have some cameras and lighting in the areas of concern. How about a tall street light or two ? Praying for justice if this is a serial. Dustin will be a real asset in becoming a profiler and working in true crime. Keep safe. I wish you had Dustin talk more about Austin and Portland displaced folks etc. I found this podcast very interesting. Thank you.
Yes, some basic security measures would certainly seem appropriate right? There is so much information and observations that can be made just on those two cities alone that we ran out of time. It's definitely an important topic although whether its relevant to the men in the lake or the murdered women in Portland, we just don't know yet. What we do know is that displacement creates a high degree of vulnerability amongst other things, that can be conducive to separating people from their pack, thus making them susceptible to all kinds of predatory behaviors. Thank you for watching!
I think it was on the Reckoning Co where she does energy readings (psychic - intuitive) on mysterious situations, and she said some things about this Lady Bird Lake k!ller. She said he's working with another couple who pretends to be arguing and when the male victem walks by - he thinks he's helping the women out from a DV situation. Then he's k!lled and drug a mere 30 yards into the water. Its a new angle - one I haven't heard yet.
It would be tricky from a logistics standpoint to create that scenario. If there were a couple arguing, with the idea of luring in a mark, it wouldn't take place anywhere Rainey St. It's busy there, like really busy. It would draw a large amount of unwanted attention and there would be no way to get them onto the path near the water without LE being called or multiple sightings and descriptions from patrons and locals. Not to mention, a recurrent ruse, from the same people would be beyond obvious. From the end of Rainey St., the Colorado is right there and the likelyhood of anyone getting dragged to the water without being seen would be at the extreme end of improbable. Rainey St. opens up just a bit before you hit the walking / biking path so there is a large field of view that would not be conducive to carrying out something like that. It's an interesting angle, that tactic goes way back and is still being employed too. Removing a mark ( in that scenario ), from the scene requires a higher chance of success and a lot more discretion, something that Rainey St. doesn't offer. Thanks for scoping out the show!
The last 4 days I’ve been in Vancouver Wa. I was out smoking close to the hotel. It was Tuesday evening around 5:30 pm. I noticed a man walking past me. I didn’t see him for a few minutes after he walked by. Then I see him in an old 1990 ish red Chevy ( not sure if it was a suburban or a trail blazer. Out of no where I see him in his suv. He gave me the creeps. I noticed him watching me. Once I notice him watching me I left the place I was smoking and went back to the hotel. He followed me and watched me. I was so scared. He at one point got close to me and I said “what r u looking at” he said nothing. I saw him circle the hotel a few times and then he left. It scared me so bad I didn’t go outside for the rest of the night.
College town, notorious for drinks tampering, victims found in body of water, large number of victims... Im getting definite "Smiley Face Killers", vibes. Do you know if any of the victims made phonecalls/left voicemail. Were any found with shoes or phone close by?
Sorry I'd written my comment before I watched the entire video, so was a wee bit premature & mentioned the "phones" before the video got to the part that you mention them. Do you know if all the victims had indeed D/wnd, was there water in everyone's lungs? Sorry if I'm being too graphic for anyone. The similarities with the "Smiley Face Killers" are there, to me & I'm interested to find out if there are anymore
Hard to say on the SMK angle but the phone thing interests me quite a bit for many reasons and shoes come off in the water all the time. I can tell you, that, while the SMK thing could be a possibility, it's highly improbable. Gannon may have been onto something with it, what exactly, I don't know and he seems like a super smart guy but there's this one thing.... Criminals, let alone multiple bands of them, either acting individually or in a coordinated effort, have a tough time of keeping quiet. They almost, though not always, talk / brag to someone about it. The sticky part is that they are actually criminals and the people they lay this stuff on don't want to say anything for good reason. They circulate in similar social or family groups and don't want to get clipped for talking to LE. In a group, or multiple groups, there will always, and I mean always, be a weak link. Or several. It would be monumentally difficult to keep something like that a secret without someone finding out about it or someone talking, getting popped on some other charge and using that intel to save themselves or someone caught slipping online. Again, possible, but in my opinion, improbable. Thanks for the comment and checking out the show!
@@dustinranck7388 I have to agree, the silence maintained over years is definitely problematic to the "network of K/llers" theory. But that being said, there's something strange with a high majority of the cases. Could it be a cult? Possibly. The deliberate "posing, positioning" of a number of victims has occult vibes, phones & shoes found nearby as though placed there. True crime is a point of interest for me but I'm definitely not a sleuth, by any stretch of the imagination. So the finer points can be overlooked by me, hence coming to people like yourself & John for insight. Whatever it is that's unfolding it's deeply troubling & tragic. I hope people much more capable than myself get a much needed break in the case & bring those responsible to account. For justice for the victims but also protection to prevent further victims. One question before I go, do you think this will repeat until the K/ller is caught? Thank you very much for taking the time to read my comment & replying such a considered response. I really appreciate it 🙂
Wow interesting ❤ thanks from San Antonio Tx
Good video as usual. 😊😊😊😊
What about in Ohio? 30 something kids went missing last month alone... It's 322 am, what is all of this!?
Hey Brittany, We're taking a look. A lot of runaways as well though.
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I saw a local talking about that area and the person asking around about the deaths and a local guy that's worked in that area for 20 yrs thinks the people got drunk/ or / drugs and disoriented and went swimming n drown or fell in..idk myself but he said theres alot of drinking , partying etc...i wonder how many of the people who drown were homeless/ transients? Just curious 🤔 He also said the no lighting was a problem as well .
if one is really drunk, it is easier to walk downhill than uphill without even knowing it...
Correct on all points and the security, or rather lack of it, is mind blowing. None of the victims were homeless that I can glean from public record or talking to the locals. There may be an outlier but most of them were doing pretty well in life according to my intel.
Good!!! More information
😮 wow
Working on it.😎
Austin decreased its police by about 30%, correct? When I lived in Austin in the 1970-1990s, we jogged around Town Lake with no worries.
Not sure about the percentage but when I worked there in the late 90’s - early 2000’s, it was a really chill town and we roamed around all night with zero worries. Things have def changed in all the big cities I used to hang in unfortunately. Thanks for checking out the show!
Hey! Congratulations to Dustin. That’s INCREDIBLE news! I think it’s right in your niche and you’ll have FUN as well as do a phenomenal job in your new, OFFICIAL career!!! Terrific tattoo artist & sensational sleuth. BEST to you. LOTS of love to you, Michelle in Boston aka MissKitty213
Michelle! I appreciate your words and support, that means a lot! John has been an incredible inspiration and has had a huge influence, ( duh, the dude is amazing ), on my decision to switch gears and use some of my other skills, contacts and sub-culture knowledge base to help others in a new and meaningful way. Thank you so much for watching and stay tuned!
Omg, Dustin! You’re so right and imo a great move to blend your multitude of aptitudes. John Kelly IS my hero for many reasons and I think that you guys compliment each other very well while he does a bit of mentoring and you dig into it. Your observations on Austin were spot on. I hope the city takes them seriously and starts to address the inherent dangers of a drinking town without public lighting, cameras & other safety measures. I mean, WTSF, huh? Particularly when you spoke about the seedier side & what is commonplace it’s a wonder that they don’t have more homicides! I’ve always loved your art and I’ll be following you now more than ever. THANK YOU! You’re doing genuine public service! As you’ve always come from a place of alternatives, no doubt you’ll make a huge impact. Bless you & take best of care. Michelle in Boston
@@misskitty2133 Thanks MK! Yeah, it seems odd AF that with all the money and demographic of that town, that security is basically at zero. It's extremely concerning. That being said, Austin is historically a pretty chill place, especially when I was working clients down there. We would hang on 6th all night and roam around and it was never an issue. It has always been a huge party town though. With all the progress, building, the pandemic, population growth and the level of displacement and disconnection, not to mention, it's just harder to survive, it's not exactly a mystery why shit is going a bit sideways. It's still a really cool place, but the actual infrastructure and support for those that need it ( basically everyday peeps ), just needs to catch up a bit.
Nope- Meza was incarcerated during time of murders.
But would you be willing to look into these killings in the future? Thanks.
John Kelly!
Sorry I missed your live.
There's no payphones, nor are there callboxes at all along the bike trail. Dont go anywhere in Austin alone. All they need are callboxes like on the spillways over the Louisiana swamp. Really sad city managers let that get so unsafe.
I live in washington very close to Portland. These areas where the women were dropped are remote is scary.
Being from P-town, you are correct. In fact, there was a missing prostitute from the Seattle area whose pic was posted years ago on the Clackamas County Sheriff's Missing Persons website. She was believed to be a victim of Ridgway's but she was un-accounted for. Turns out, her remains were discovered up at Government Camp on Mt. Hood just a couple years ago. Ridgway was known to also camp in that exact area. She was a dead F-ing ringer for this missing girl but in fact she went missing from Southern Oregon in the 70's. My point being, as John mentioned, mileage doesn't mean much to these guys and with all the wilderness there in the NW, there are a lot more secrets in those woods, guaranteed.
5:19 - "It's going to be a two-fer"
I love 2-for-1 specials. Eastbound and Down, Will Ferrell, "My plums are ripe and juicy, ready to take 'em to the farmer's market! Today's special: 2 plums for 1!!" Hahah
Austin is San Francisco, Texas!
People’s drinks do get spiked with drugs and eye drops as well!
Raped and killed an 8yr old and got out of jail????
Yeah, that's definitely a WTF moment we are all still wondering about....
Wondering if he does side jobs where he meets people or if his professional allows him to float into different groups, such a working in a restaurant kitchen or something. Meet me after work type thing maybe 🤔
100% logical inference.
Hello Mr Kelly. I am still covering the Main south Woodsman perp in New England. Did you do lives on this guy?
Hey DGR Dave, He's a POI in Many. But never connected by LE. Many Thanks
@@JohnKellyProfiler Thanks Mr Kelly. Are you planning on doing a live on this anytime soon
Waller creek trail leads to two homeless shelters.
Regarding the older professed "serial killer" in Austin. You just have to wonder whether he has a particular affinity for the Texas prison system. It seems that if one were to chose a state in which to commit and confess to 1st degree murder, Texas with its notoriety for imposing and following through on capital punishment would be lower down on one's list. 🤷🏻♀️
Some guys just can't stand to be away from home. But yeah, that definitely tells us something about this guy for sure. There is a lot that is still unknown and a lot to unpack with this character. John really hit on some fantastic points regarding this dude too and I have no doubt that there will be more information coming down the pipeline eventually.
Perhaps APD can pin Moriah Wilson's murder on Meza, now that they have him in custody.
It's not called ladybird lake anymore. It's called town lake now.
I love how cities randomly change the name of stuff. Portland has streets with 5 different names as you roll from one end of town to the next. So confusing in the old days with paper maps lol.
You have that backwards, they changed the name from Town lake to Lady Bird Lake.
This has been such an interesting video, though I'm still just a third of the way through. It's eerie how much the Austin cases echo the urban legend of the smiley face murders. I'd love if you would touch on your take of that conspiracy theory at some point.
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Not just a university town, but also the seat of government!
Omg. Why didn’t they keep him in?
OMG John!! You just hit on something. The level of Care in the prison system as opposed to the civilian world has to be attractive to anyone who can forego some personal freedoms. There’s even a BED to sleep in - Wowza it’s better than the sidewalk where many veterans end up sleeping. Free dental care too. Meals included. Such a Deal.
Town lake is full of hydrilla. It's very easy to get caught in it and drown.
Ugh a serial killer gets better medical care than our Veterans. Such a disgrace!
John- is there anyway this guy could be connected to the Yogurt Shop killings in 1991, perhaps? An unsolved mystery which occurred blocks from Shoal Creek and in my neighborhood essentially…
Good question, Judy. they should find out if he was out of prison then. He's the type! Many Thanks
This old timer maybe looking to go back in the joint, but try to make himself out to be a serial killer, just to avoid going back to general population and hopefully he may be segregated. He could easily move in that area, say between Austin and San Antonio, sort of staying on the move ......🤔🤔 Thank you for another great session!
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👍 👍 thanks both for the conversation eye opener JUSTICE FOR ALL THE VICTUMS answers &justice for the family's.
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In the Portland case they said that three of the girls hung around the same area. This kind of has a Ted Bundy ring to me. The Austin case what was the age of victims? This Raul fellow seems like he is going after people he knows he can over power. I've seen his picture looks like he would stand out in that area. When did the Austin slayings stop and when did the Portland begin? Different genders but same type of areas in those cities. Thank you for what you do, always enjoy your work.
Yes the families & friends of 3 of the missing women did say that & I’ve no doubt they were all involved in the drug culture in someway. Right there is your connection!
Portland and Austin are two different timelines. By quite a bit. I can tell you though, from being in P-town for 35yrs., there is no shortage of crazy shit going on at any given time. There are lots of factors involved in that, but P-town has some unique anomalies that are not entirely different from Austin.
@@misskitty2133 Quite possibly. There are multiple levels of the drug trade in any city so demographics and victimology have a lot to do with any overlying commonalities. There exists, in any area, hierarchies within the trade as well as the clients that are subsequently served by them. If there is as drug connection in P-town, it shouldn't take LE long to put that part together. Excellent observation MK!
The Portland case has more of a Dayton Leroy Rogers situation , more than Ted Bundy. alot of these ladies went on dates and were taken to motels around the area..
I'm about to Google if there's a direct air flight between those two spots.
I guess there are two. Alaska Airlines and American Airlines
3 of the women frequented a street in duowntown & there was a guys name mentioned…I’ll see if I can find it. You know, “last seen with John Doe”
MK - Downtown Portland is really small. Like, I can walk from the south to the extreme north end of it in like half an hour at the most. The players down there are well known to LE ( and everyone else lol ), so if there is a common thread, they will suss it out easily. Let me know what you find, no public deets as of yet. There is a high degree of transient population though so that could be a factor, we just don't know anything at the moment.
Has anyone checked over the rest of the drownings between the states. Same thing happening in Chicago 13 young men drowning in local river in last 15 months
Austin is the new California. That is where the California people are moving to.
There all too many out there just haven't been caught 😡⚖️⚖️
Lured under false pretenses, perhaps?
Absolutely. Or even pretenses that sounded legit but never really were. In addition, when you're dealing with high levels of intoxication, or being potentially dosed, the most ridiculous suggestions can often seem like a " good idea".
I heard that all the victi.s were similar age and all had the name John (2nd victim not named John but was nicknamed "Johnny Boy"). If this a serial killer is it possible it could be a woman? What are the odds? A woman could easily Lure a. Man down to the lake? Just curious.....
We don't know, that's the reality of it at this point. What we do know is that there's these guys in the river / lake that have some undeniable commonalities. It would be easy for a woman to get a guy down to the water for a hook-up / party after hours for sure. However, if, and I do mean if, there is someone working the corridor, I doubt it for quite a few reasons that I can't get into here just yet. Those reasons are based on my experience with lots of different cultural and sub-cultural groups as well what I know about the drug trade and how those personal interactions take place. Great comment and thank you for taking the time to scope the show!
John you're not letting your guest speak
He totally did but we were having some tech difficulties ( mostly on my end ), that created some dead space for me but John caught it and just kept rolling with some great intel! That dude is just amazing!
Sorry JamieB, Technical difficulties! I'm pretty good at letting people talk. Many Thanks
Will Austin LE ask you to investigate? Make an assessment?
Ha Ha, I doubt it. They should just add to their drug panel. Many Thanks
I think I’ve seen Dustin in the true crime community 👍 I wonder if all the victims have the same drugs in their systems or all came from the same bar.
Probably 😂 - That's a really good question actually. Not all the victims came from the same bar but there is some incredible commonalities between them. It's important to remember that that doesn't qualify as a predator at work, but it's a process of pattern building to determine what's up and to help LE in any way possible, even if they aren't publicly revealing any clues. It's definitely not that they don't care or aren't paying attention to the situation. Like John said, they need proof and it can take some time to pull it all together. Thank you for watching!
JK I love u r show,and u great profiler,other shows ,about u drive me crazy ,take to long to announce u r long work history.i avoid the other,so can u make more of u r own.thanks
Oh by all means make a conspiracy out of anything that you don't understand.😊
Have LE been able to prove that he committed any of the crimes that he has confessed to?
They are or have charged him. He's in custody, but not gone to court yet. Many Thanks
@JohnKellyProfiler Thank you for replying. It makes me wonder how much he is making up. It will be interesting to see the outcome.
It was my first time catching your show. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.
Turning himself in, there you go, no need to worry about retirement. 3 hots and a cot .. Behind that he had been in and out (convicted child killer out on the streets??) of prison- maybe he realizes he cannot live on the pittance of social security.
Raul looks creepy. His mouth is abnormally small.
Why did you even bother to have a guest on? How about allowing your guest to talk also. You monopolized the entire conversation.
Sorry MsAmericanthinker. There were technical difficulties in the cross talk. If you watch till the end you will understand better. I always let people talk. No time limit here. Many thanks for watching.
Tech cluster on my end! John picked it up first and was able to fill it with some incredible information. He and I usually just get on a roll back and forth so no ones fault here. Thanks for scoping out the show, it's very much appreciated!