Not sure if I had Creeping Charlie or some other kind of leafy ground Ivy that was taking over my yard. I tried different weed killers but they would not touch this stuff. I then used this method and it did WORK! Yes! Thank you so much for this helpful video.
I have two selective herbicides. "Q4 Plus" with 2,4, dimethylamine salt. and "4-Speed XT" with 2,4, Dichloroophenoxyacetic Acid. Which is the correct one, if any? They both have Dicamba. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Dave
Credit to this tip. I've fought this weed for years and even with professional lawn treatment it just keeps spreading. Applied the mule team and within a week the areas I hit hard are brown and dead. The areas with medium coverage are curling up. Applied the 2-4-D today and hope to see even more results. This is a great plan
I love all of your videos, i'm in the middle of a lawn care nut marathon enjoying a heineken. Of course, I'm on my porch looking at how amazing my lawn is starting to look after your amazing videos. Thank you so much for putting these out, I'm one seriously happy lawn care nut apprentice !!!
I can't wait to try this. My lawn is covered in ground Ivy. I live in Canada and can't get most of the weed killers the US has. So thank you for this video!
@@claytonchristensen6273 so it burnt of most of the ground Ivy which was great because it slowed down the growth. I did exactly what he said borax and water first then a weed killer (I used weed b gon but don't use weed b gon max it's garbage). I did this last year and the ground ivy was much better this year.
Question that hasn't been answered elsewhere - - will it kill this plant to weed whack very low to the ground, chopping all leaves off the charlie? I did this in one section of my lawn and I'm wondering if it's going to come back just as quickly. It does expose roots easier.
IT WORKED TY TY TY. Been trying to get rid of this for years. Been taking over more and more. Finally Stopped it. Although i did put a bit too much weed killer after in some spots hurt some grass. No problem it's zoysia and will repair itself lol.
Two questions. First: Is the Borax treatment harmful to my doggie and my soon to be chickens? Or can I just keep them away from the area for the hour of time you recommend waiting afterwards? (Same question for the lawn weed killer.) Second: Do you know if this will work for Virginia Creeper? I had never heard of that plant until I moved to coastal NC and it's all over the ground in a back area of my yard. I love plants so much but I am not too sure I love invasive species like Virgina Creeper. Thank you for a great video (even though I'm a late bloomer to your channel...LOL). Off to watch the second one now. New subscriber! :)
I spent the whole summer pulling all my creeping charlie out of my yard by hand & i had alot of it.. now there's no more growing & my yard looks awesome..
I have 2 acres of land of which half is turf area. We've used local contractors to kill weeds (Weed Man for one) for years who neglected the work (I caught their employees park in our drive way for half hour and drove off) and caused our turf to be overtaken by weeds. I then hired a different contractor and used them for two years but they have not been able to make a difference and told me they couldn't get the solution to rid of the creeping charlie (new strand of weed in the area apparently) and that I should just scrape off everything and start a new. Not only will this cost a fortune given the land mass, I don't trust these contractors anymore and decided to take matters into my own hands. I spent days researching for the solution (I didn't even know what the weed was called) online and stumbled upon your video. Thank you and will give the technique a try and prey it works! Question 1: You recommend the 20 Mule Team Borax "detergent booster & multi-purpose household cleaner". I am in process of ordering the pump sprayer (4 Gal backpack), and Borax online (Amazon.ca), I found the one (identical package as your video) for C$75.73 plus shipping (76oz). One of the comments directed me to purchasing the same at Walmart Canada, it costs C$5.77 (1.84kg), same brand but different colour box that says "nature's freshener". Are these same or different and can I use either one for the job? Question 2: Can I use the 4 Gal pump sprayer for the job instead of a fine mist spray bottle you suggested since I am dealing with half acre of affected area? One of the purchasers of the pump sprayer said his machine got clogged up using powder mix (non-liquid) after first use. Can I mix the solution in a bucket and dissolve it completely before pouring into the machine? Please help! FYI, I live in northern part of Quebec province and we get extreme temperature changes from below freezing level to 25C until June 1. I watched your 2017 video. My plan is to get rid of the weeds, replenish the soil, seed......
I tried Borax once and about killed my grass - turned it yellow. However, I just saw this video (2021) and didn't dilute the borax at 5oz/gal water. I think you have to be very careful because that stuff stays in the ground. Does the Lawn Care Nut regret pushing Borax as a solution? Strangely enough, I'm going to go ahead and try this method simply because I TRUST the Lawn Care Nut. Here's hoping.
This video came at a perfect time, the lawn of our new house is covered with Charlie. Can't wait for Video 2! Going to integrate this with your fall recovery plan. Thanks for the videos, great stuff.
glad it helped! and actually, the second video will show that I did not need anymore applications. the charlie is 100% gone from that area now. just took a little longer. :)
I like the way you presented the before and after shot on the treated area. It gives your viewer more confident in following through with your procedures. Thanks.
I tried a 100 square foot test area last year using your Borax solution and Weed B Gone. It worked great! I have more Creeping Charlie this year that I need to treat. The only problem I have is diluting the borax so it doesn't clog my sprayer. Do you use hot water to dissolve it? Thanks!
I used Trimec concentrate on a majority of my front lawn last fall to kill off the creeping charlie and clover. Worked great in one application. My wife is just as big of a lawn nut as i am, she hand pulled every single runner of it out after it was dead. She said the Trimec actually made it easier to get out after it was dead. Took about 1 week to wilt, and another week to completely brown out. I just enjoyed watching her in her bikini top in the front yard being a yard nut! The neighbors did also I'm sure! Double Domination!
Don't you just love when you move into a new house, with a troubled salad bar lawn and see creeping charlie everywhere - you remember 2+ years ago watching LCN's series on how to use, and you remember the Borax but you go back and re-watch the video series anyways and get treated with some sweet green screen action and the old music.... That old music though - every time I hear it, just makes me want to get out in the lawn.
Will a pump sprayer work for this application? I have creeping charlie all over the place this year. It was never so bad! Lots of weird stuff this year with weeds. On the other hand, the majority of my grass is doing well, but the specific problem areas are bigger problems this year than any year before. PS, I know you lived in Chicagoland during the time when this video was filmed. I live in northwest Indiana, so our environmental conditions will be relatively the same.
Great video I appreciate your time you spend making these videos. I have creeping Charlie (ground Ivy) Just got my house about a year ago, and it has spread to the entire lawn. Instead of using that spray bottle and going over my entire lawn, is there another way to do it? I know you want a fine mist, but looking as it takes me an hour to just cut my lawn, I may be out there just spraying for 2. Any help or ideas are appreciated. Thanks again. +The Lawn Care Nut
Can I try this method now or only in spring? It's about 90 degrees here in Chicago. I just put down some Milorganite. How long should I wait until I try this method? Thanks.
Thank you for this video and part 2. I just bought all the stuff and sprayed a bit ago. We will see how it goes in a few week. 👍 I have been battling these clovers for about 7 years and they are taking over.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have an infestation of Bleeping Charlie. Trying it first without the Borax, just a Dicamba-type herbicide. My uninformed worry is that if. the CC gets injured by the Borax, then it will be less likely to absorb / ingest the herbicide.We'll see.
@@TheTurbomopar Sorry, I had forgotten about my post. Happy news. The procedure worked great, even without the borax. I made first application around Sept , which in our area is when grass is coming out of summer dormancy. The kill was gradual, but this spring I have very little remaining CC. I'd say I killed more than 95%. My wife calls it bleeping charlie. Our habitat is western Cascades foothills. The product was Weedmaster, a mix of 2,4,D, dicamba and some other stuff.
took you six years!!!?? took mine 3 months!!! (pennsylvania) The lawn used to be a beautiful sight. The past couple of weeks, its now almost covered in this mess!
Hey allyn I have a client that has alot of, I think it is purple ivy it is tall and has purple buds at the tips, is it the same method to get rid of that also? Thank you for the videos I have learned a ton
We have a rather large area of creeping charlie not located in our lawn. Can we use something larger to apply the borax mixture other than a spray bottle?
I do not see listed which weed killer you mixed in the pump sprayer to get rid of the creeping charlie. We have it all over our lawn and I am headed to walmart to find the weed killing item with 24D & Dicamba that you mentioned to mix in the pump sprayer? What am I looking for? Brand?
Can you use a backpack sprayer for larger areas of creeping charlie or will that be too much for the grass? How long would you suggest waiting on putting down grass seed after treating for creeping charlie?
Stupid question but here goes, I don’t own a dietitian scale so how would I measure out 5 oz? I do own measuring cups and spoons, does 5oz equate to a certain measurement in cups?
Great Vid. My Bermuda in the rear yard has been overtaken by this stuff and it would take me forever to fine spray due to the area volume. You think a sprayer at the highest spray setting would work for the Borax? Thanks in advance.
Im using TruGreen right now. After 2 treatments the crewping charlie looks like its getting worse. Is this treatment compatable with the TruGreen treatment?
+The Lawn Care Nut Sounds good. I can dig a bit more into the time frame of that. I've dug deep into your channel and am learning a ton. My yard needs more coverage but is also has some weeds and I fear more to come. I am thinking about doing a full yard seed before putting down the prodiamine or do you think it's best to save the yard from more weeds and put it down first and seed later? Thanks for your quick response!
Hey Allyn thank you for the great video (s). Was curious, i have some patches of ivy, but also wanted to seed fertilize etc, and would need to water? What do you recommend, deal with ivy, wait then seed, or seed at same time and just avoid the ivy area with the seeding and watering? Tks again
Allyn, I am getting ready to do a Soil Quality Restoration on my yard this fall to deep aerate to 4" and then cover with compost 1/2" thick across the entire yard. Will this introduce the ability for weeds to start growing or should I do anything in preparation or follow up to the SQR? Thank you, love the vids!! Mark
That's not really a service I've ever performed before. Typically I'm not a fan of topdressing with compost like that as you can't control the levels of nutrients being introduced. My plan would be to just aerate the lawn normally and apply a big fat dose of Milo. similar results, more consistent
Is Milo something that I need to get at a Farm store of some kind or is it readily available? I couldn't find any information on it when I did a quick search. Thank you Allyn.
Alllyn, last year I did a deep core aeration with top dress of compost and over seeding to try and get my yard thicker. This year I started off with putting down some 19-0-4 fert followed by another over seeding and starter fert about 2 weeks later. It has green'd up but I am still not seeing the thickening I had hoped for. I have Milo and was going to put that down but didn't know if it was too early? I am in Iowa. Does it sound like I need to do more than just Milo? Thank you so much, Mark
My lawn was taken over by Creeping Charlie last season. I can see tons of it throughout the lawn here in mid March 2020. When should the borax/weed killer treatment be applied relevant to your previous spring start up process of Milorganite and Prodiamine? FYI - Live north of Detroit area in Michigan. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated. Creeping Charlie is getting me down!!
Hey Allyn! I've been reading around the internet and I read that if you dethatch your lawn in the fall It should pull up the runners of creeping Charlie. Does this work or this just a myth with dethatching with Creeping Charlie?
Just an FYI all studies done on Borax vs Creeping Charlie show that the damage potential to your lawn far out weigh it's use as a weed killer. Boron (Borax) does not break down in the soil!
I would get armpump in like 2 minutes trying to spray my whole lawn with a trigger-sprayer. I'll be using a garden-sprayer on fine mist setting, thanks...
It's early spring and our lawn my be 35% Creeping Charlie with a lot of bare spots. We are adopting your Borax and Weed-B-Gone eradicating technique. How soon after this program, or what do you recommend to renovate the lawn? i.e.; organic matter, soils, seed...? Can we get away with top dressing? Lastly Milorganite is had to find in Canada or just not sold here, is there a good substitute like a Scotts? FYI,we do have an underground irrigation system. Thank you in advance for all your great tips, really helps.
+Joseph Walker I have never used top dressing as a form of lawn treatment. I just use organic fertilizers. If you cannot get Milorgnite, just get whatever organic fert is available to you. It should work just fine.
The bigger question here was; isn't there a recommended wait period after using defoliants before planting grass seed? The top dressing reference was in regard to filling in the patches/spaces where the Creeping Charlie once was. Thanks
LCN, do you have a series or advise for wild thyme? I live in the Adirondack Mountains, and this stuff is starting to take my lawn with a vengeance since last year! Please help.
Hi. I have creeping charlie on my turf. We in canada can't use 2 4d. Can I use this borax solution to kill weed alone ? Without 2 4d ? After how long I can re apply it. Or it will get too strong and can kill lawn too...
Another good tip for weed control. I keep treat my mom has a little creeping Charlie or is it creeping Jenny with weed killer and it would yellow but never go away. I'll have to try the Borax. I always add some dish soap not anti bacteria soap to my weed control tank sprayer. Could you show us how to mix grass seed while your fertilizer maybe a fall video? I know Tru green does this when they fertilize there lawns. Can't wait for vid 2 on creeping Charlie!
I live in Alberta, Canada. I've been told that I cannot access borax in Canada? ? I have a creeping charlie problem and need to know what to use to get rid of it once and for all.
I've been pulling it out by hand. Had about 8 patches roughly 1/4-1/2sw ft. It seems to like to grow mostly where the lawn meets the walkway. I'm hoping my kentucky bluegrass will fill it in, but maybe I should reseed these areas.
Borax on its own did not take care of my Charlie. I'm trying to avoid chemicals but have decided to try tenacity this fall after reading many reviews on it. Would it be smart to apply borax then tenacity? I was thinking of spraying borax and then hitting it with two applications of tenacity two weeks later.
I noticed a newer video for clovers where you say to use baby shampoo. Is that just for clovers or can we use that method for Creeping Charlie as well?
"Charlie" has taken over about 75% of my back yard...so I hope this treatment is suitable for a large area. I've tried to get rid of it each year for the past 2 or 3, but not successfully. Is this treatment good to do now, or should I wait until the Fall...which is what I heard from a different source?
The Lawn Care Nut I live in Alberta, Canada. what do I do about my creeping charlie problem as I apparently cannot access borax. thank you and I absolutely love your tips.
It best to get better quality herbicide with higher concentrations of 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic and Triclopyr, like Crossbow or TZone. Big box companies like ortho usually have more watered down concentrations of these chemicals. Make sure you wear gloves and probably best to wear a respirator if you are spraying large areas
A few questions. What’s the best time of year to do this I’m starting my over seed process now will this method of killing the creeping Charlie interfere with it? Should I just wait until very end of fall after new grass has taken hold? Thanks
Hey..is this available in canada Ive tried everything the lawn specialists Here have suggested ...nothing works forgot the name but has a tiny yellow flower
Clover is not a problem. It adds nitrogen to the soil and creates soil life. Listen to mother nature. Don't destroy her - by trying to grow the grass that is killing our planet just by "maintaining" it.
Mirla Lacen don't think getting rid of clover in my lawn will destroy the world. Plenty of wild clover growing on the river Banks and along the highways in Nebraska!
Mirla Lacen who the hell is putting toxins on my yard? I have pets and kids/ grandkids that play in my yard. Getting tired of people deciding what is right or wrong for my home and family. I want a nice looking lawn the kids can play on! I do habitat restoration on a couple miles of land that the company I worked for own. Plenty of wild clover and natural grasses and other forage for the critters. We put out food plots and get old corn from grain elevators for deer and birds. We think the predators every fall and winter to keep a good balance between predators and prey. We've raised quail and released them there. We've stocked the ponds with fish. I don't think we've damaged mother nature here by mowing or taking care of our lawns!
Consistent pulling them out and placing grass clippings, branches and placing them on top of the area has worked for me. Weed killer, vinegar etc has not worked.
I would add not to spray the lawn if the temp is over 85, or raining, best early morning while the dew is on the grass, it will soak up the chemical better , or right after sun down, low wind condition's, follow up with a pre emergent herbicide
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Not sure if I had Creeping Charlie or some other kind of leafy ground Ivy that was taking over my yard. I tried different weed killers but they would not touch this stuff. I then used this method and it did WORK! Yes! Thank you so much for this helpful video.
I have two selective herbicides. "Q4 Plus" with 2,4, dimethylamine salt. and "4-Speed XT" with 2,4, Dichloroophenoxyacetic Acid. Which is the correct one, if any? They both have Dicamba. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Dave
Credit to this tip. I've fought this weed for years and even with professional lawn treatment it just keeps spreading. Applied the mule team and within a week the areas I hit hard are brown and dead. The areas with medium coverage are curling up. Applied the 2-4-D today and hope to see even more results. This is a great plan
I love all of your videos, i'm in the middle of a lawn care nut marathon enjoying a heineken. Of course, I'm on my porch looking at how amazing my lawn is starting to look after your amazing videos. Thank you so much for putting these out, I'm one seriously happy lawn care nut apprentice !!!
I can't wait to try this. My lawn is covered in ground Ivy. I live in Canada and can't get most of the weed killers the US has. So thank you for this video!
Rozina, I live in canada too, did it work for you?
@@claytonchristensen6273 so it burnt of most of the ground Ivy which was great because it slowed down the growth. I did exactly what he said borax and water first then a weed killer (I used weed b gon but don't use weed b gon max it's garbage). I did this last year and the ground ivy was much better this year.
Question that hasn't been answered elsewhere - - will it kill this plant to weed whack very low to the ground, chopping all leaves off the charlie? I did this in one section of my lawn and I'm wondering if it's going to come back just as quickly. It does expose roots easier.
IT WORKED TY TY TY. Been trying to get rid of this for years. Been taking over more and more. Finally Stopped it. Although i did put a bit too much weed killer after in some spots hurt some grass. No problem it's zoysia and will repair itself lol.
Grass all healed. Yay!
So beautiful plant s
Two questions.
First: Is the Borax treatment harmful to my doggie and my soon to be chickens? Or can I just keep them away from the area for the hour of time you recommend waiting afterwards? (Same question for the lawn weed killer.)
Second: Do you know if this will work for Virginia Creeper? I had never heard of that plant until I moved to coastal NC and it's all over the ground in a back area of my yard.
I love plants so much but I am not too sure I love invasive species like Virgina Creeper.
Thank you for a great video (even though I'm a late bloomer to your channel...LOL). Off to watch the second one now.
New subscriber! :)
Short and to the point, thank you! Every other lawn care video on here has way too much talking of irrelevant information. Thanks again
Followed this exactly and it worked great. We had a ton of creeping Charlie in our back yard.
+marty baranski thanks awesome! I love hearing the good results you all get!
We just started war versus creeping charlie. Thanks for your guidance!
I spent the whole summer pulling all my creeping charlie out of my yard by hand & i had alot of it.. now there's no more growing & my yard looks awesome..
kudos2ya37 Hi, Did you pull the heads off only or the roots too? Thanks...any help would be great!
@@danovido8946 gotta get them roots. Best after a rain.
Is that 5 Oz by weight, or volume?
Is this 5 fluid ounces or weight in ounces?
Is that 5 ounces of borax the same as 5/8 of a cup? Or is it 5 ounces by weight?
I have 2 acres of land of which half is turf area. We've used local contractors to kill weeds (Weed Man for one) for years who neglected the work (I caught their employees park in our drive way for half hour and drove off) and caused our turf to be overtaken by weeds. I then hired a different contractor and used them for two years but they have not been able to make a difference and told me they couldn't get the solution to rid of the creeping charlie (new strand of weed in the area apparently) and that I should just scrape off everything and start a new. Not only will this cost a fortune given the land mass, I don't trust these contractors anymore and decided to take matters into my own hands. I spent days researching for the solution (I didn't even know what the weed was called) online and stumbled upon your video. Thank you and will give the technique a try and prey it works! Question 1: You recommend the 20 Mule Team Borax "detergent booster & multi-purpose household cleaner". I am in process of ordering the pump sprayer (4 Gal backpack), and Borax online (Amazon.ca), I found the one (identical package as your video) for C$75.73 plus shipping (76oz). One of the comments directed me to purchasing the same at Walmart Canada, it costs C$5.77 (1.84kg), same brand but different colour box that says "nature's freshener". Are these same or different and can I use either one for the job? Question 2: Can I use the 4 Gal pump sprayer for the job instead of a fine mist spray bottle you suggested since I am dealing with half acre of affected area? One of the purchasers of the pump sprayer said his machine got clogged up using powder mix (non-liquid) after first use. Can I mix the solution in a bucket and dissolve it completely before pouring into the machine? Please help! FYI, I live in northern part of Quebec province and we get extreme temperature changes from below freezing level to 25C until June 1. I watched your 2017 video. My plan is to get rid of the weeds, replenish the soil, seed......
I tried Borax once and about killed my grass - turned it yellow. However, I just saw this video (2021) and didn't dilute the borax at 5oz/gal water. I think you have to be very careful because that stuff stays in the ground. Does the Lawn Care Nut regret pushing Borax as a solution? Strangely enough, I'm going to go ahead and try this method simply because I TRUST the Lawn Care Nut. Here's hoping.
Can you use a natural weed killer (vinegar, epsom salt, dawn soap) after the borax? We have chickens so I don't want to use a lot of chemicals.
Hoping this works as my entire back yard has creeping Charlie. Thanks
This video came at a perfect time, the lawn of our new house is covered with Charlie. Can't wait for Video 2! Going to integrate this with your fall recovery plan. Thanks for the videos, great stuff.
glad it helped! and actually, the second video will show that I did not need anymore applications. the charlie is 100% gone from that area now. just took a little longer. :)
I like the way you presented the before and after shot on the treated area. It gives your viewer more confident in following through with your procedures. Thanks.
i found ripping out all the grass and covering it with 12 inches of asphalt works best
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I tried a 100 square foot test area last year using your Borax solution and Weed B Gone. It worked great! I have more Creeping Charlie this year that I need to treat. The only problem I have is diluting the borax so it doesn't clog my sprayer. Do you use hot water to dissolve it? Thanks!
I used Trimec concentrate on a majority of my front lawn last fall to kill off the creeping charlie and clover. Worked great in one application. My wife is just as big of a lawn nut as i am, she hand pulled every single runner of it out after it was dead. She said the Trimec actually made it easier to get out after it was dead. Took about 1 week to wilt, and another week to completely brown out. I just enjoyed watching her in her bikini top in the front yard being a yard nut! The neighbors did also I'm sure! Double Domination!
Is the 5 oz per gallon by volume or weight, i.e. just over 1/2 of 8 oz cup? Thanks.
Don't you just love when you move into a new house, with a troubled salad bar lawn and see creeping charlie everywhere - you remember 2+ years ago watching LCN's series on how to use, and you remember the Borax but you go back and re-watch the video series anyways and get treated with some sweet green screen action and the old music.... That old music though - every time I hear it, just makes me want to get out in the lawn.
Do you have to turn off irrigation after application? Or safe to water lawn after 2 days of application
Is it 10 oz weight or 10 oz volume of Borax?
Will a pump sprayer work for this application?
I have creeping charlie all over the place this year. It was never so bad! Lots of weird stuff this year with weeds.
On the other hand, the majority of my grass is doing well, but the specific problem areas are bigger problems this year than any year before.
PS, I know you lived in Chicagoland during the time when this video was filmed. I live in northwest Indiana, so our environmental conditions will be relatively the same.
Great video I appreciate your time you spend making these videos. I have creeping Charlie (ground Ivy) Just got my house about a year ago, and it has spread to the entire lawn. Instead of using that spray bottle and going over my entire lawn, is there another way to do it? I know you want a fine mist, but looking as it takes me an hour to just cut my lawn, I may be out there just spraying for 2. Any help or ideas are appreciated. Thanks again. +The Lawn Care Nut
Go to harbor freight and buy a garden sprayer, the good ones have a fine mist setting.
Apply iron like you do fertilizer. CC does not grow in iron soil. I applied it to my lawn and CC just did not grow. All natural and lasts longer.
Can I try this method now or only in spring? It's about 90 degrees here in Chicago. I just put down some Milorganite. How long should I wait until I try this method? Thanks.
Thank you for this video and part 2. I just bought all the stuff and sprayed a bit ago. We will see how it goes in a few week. 👍 I have been battling these clovers for about 7 years and they are taking over.
Where is part 2? Cannot locate it.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have an infestation of Bleeping Charlie. Trying it first without the Borax, just a Dicamba-type herbicide. My uninformed worry is that if. the CC gets injured by the Borax, then it will be less likely to absorb / ingest the herbicide.We'll see.
Any update?
@@TheTurbomopar Sorry, I had forgotten about my post. Happy news. The procedure worked great, even without the borax. I made first application around Sept , which in our area is when grass is coming out of summer dormancy. The kill was gradual, but this spring I have very little remaining CC. I'd say I killed more than 95%.
My wife calls it bleeping charlie. Our habitat is western Cascades foothills. The product was Weedmaster, a mix of 2,4,D, dicamba and some other stuff.
I’m choosing to skip the herbicide and just use Borax. Can I apply it again this season?
What if we can only get the iron weed control where we live? Will the borax coupled with that work?
took you six years!!!?? took mine 3 months!!! (pennsylvania) The lawn used to be a beautiful sight. The past couple of weeks, its now almost covered in this mess!
Mine is partially covered right now, too. Silver lining: their purple flowers look great right now.
Thanks so much. This stuff has encroached all over my backyard.
Is the pesticide you recommend in this video toxic to pollinators, possum, rabbits, birds, etc?
Hey allyn I have a client that has alot of, I think it is purple ivy it is tall and has purple buds at the tips, is it the same method to get rid of that also? Thank you for the videos I have learned a ton
How long after this process is complete, can I put new seed to build up the grass????
We have a rather large area of creeping charlie not located in our lawn. Can we use something larger to apply the borax mixture other than a spray bottle?
I do not see listed which weed killer you mixed in the pump sprayer to get rid of the creeping charlie. We have it all over our lawn and I am headed to walmart to find the weed killing item with 24D & Dicamba that you mentioned to mix in the pump sprayer? What am I looking for? Brand?
Can you use a backpack sprayer for larger areas of creeping charlie or will that be too much for the grass? How long would you suggest waiting on putting down grass seed after treating for creeping charlie?
Stupid question but here goes, I don’t own a dietitian scale so how would I measure out 5 oz? I do own measuring cups and spoons, does 5oz equate to a certain measurement in cups?
How well does the ortho hose end sprayer work with the chemical to treat creeping Charlie after you put borax on?
Is the 5 oz by weight or by volume?
What time of year is best to apply this treatment or does it not matter?
Great Vid. My Bermuda in the rear yard has been overtaken by this stuff and it would take me forever to fine spray due to the area volume. You think a sprayer at the highest spray setting would work for the Borax? Thanks in advance.
Is this better to do in the spring? Or can it be done anytime of year, like in the fall?
Im using TruGreen right now. After 2 treatments the crewping charlie looks like its getting worse. Is this treatment compatable with the TruGreen treatment?
Can I apply this treatment if it rains the next day?
Allyn... when you applied your weed killer, did you use a surfactant? If so, what did you use?
Thanks for the tips. Is the borax helpful for any other weeds?
Nice Video....Can I ask...At what time of year did you hit the lawn with the Borax mixture?
Great vid!
How often do you recommend spraying lawns with this mixture?
Lots of weeds where I need to use it.
Thanks!
Dariusz Niedziela only a couple times per year. Just work on sections at a time. The key is to thicken up the grass also and that will help
Would you still recommend this method if the creeping charlie has completely taken over? I have an area of my lawn that is 100% covered. Thanks!
+Adam Runnoe if its a 100% covered area, then just hit it with glyphosate (RoundUp) and start over.
+The Lawn Care Nut Sounds good. I can dig a bit more into the time frame of that. I've dug deep into your channel and am learning a ton. My yard needs more coverage but is also has some weeds and I fear more to come. I am thinking about doing a full yard seed before putting down the prodiamine or do you think it's best to save the yard from more weeds and put it down first and seed later? Thanks for your quick response!
What's the point of having all this land and not using it for anything but extremely short grass? Plant some trees, bushes, herbs, flowers!
His property. His choice.
@@lahawk2931 doesn't mean I can't make an observation
Hi guys I have aquestion , how dangerous that stuff for flowers? If I will spraying creepy Charlie, my flowers, bushes will be died too?
Hey Allyn thank you for the great video (s). Was curious, i have some patches of ivy, but also wanted to seed fertilize etc, and would need to water? What do you recommend, deal with ivy, wait then seed, or seed at same time and just avoid the ivy area with the seeding and watering? Tks again
I absolutely adore the Creeping Charlie in my lawn. I harvest it for medicinal purposes.
Toxic to dogs
Only works for creeping charlie and ground ivy or some other weeds?
Allyn, I am getting ready to do a Soil Quality Restoration on my yard this fall to deep aerate to 4" and then cover with compost 1/2" thick across the entire yard. Will this introduce the ability for weeds to start growing or should I do anything in preparation or follow up to the SQR? Thank you, love the vids!! Mark
That's not really a service I've ever performed before. Typically I'm not a fan of topdressing with compost like that as you can't control the levels of nutrients being introduced. My plan would be to just aerate the lawn normally and apply a big fat dose of Milo. similar results, more consistent
Is Milo something that I need to get at a Farm store of some kind or is it readily available? I couldn't find any information on it when I did a quick search. Thank you Allyn.
sorry, it's short for "Milorganite"
Alllyn, last year I did a deep core aeration with top dress of compost and over seeding to try and get my yard thicker. This year I started off with putting down some 19-0-4 fert followed by another over seeding and starter fert about 2 weeks later. It has green'd up but I am still not seeing the thickening I had hoped for. I have Milo and was going to put that down but didn't know if it was too early? I am in Iowa. Does it sound like I need to do more than just Milo?
Thank you so much,
Mark
My lawn was taken over by Creeping Charlie last season. I can see tons of it throughout the lawn here in mid March 2020. When should the borax/weed killer treatment be applied relevant to your previous spring start up process of Milorganite and Prodiamine? FYI - Live north of Detroit area in Michigan. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated. Creeping Charlie is getting me down!!
Hey Allyn! I've been reading around the internet and I read that if you dethatch your lawn in the fall It should pull up the runners of creeping Charlie. Does this work or this just a myth with dethatching with Creeping Charlie?
Herbicide is illegal where I live. What can I do for step 2?
Great vid....I just use T-Zone in a couple of apps now. Creeping Charlie slaughter!
Just an FYI all studies done on Borax vs Creeping Charlie show that the damage potential to your lawn far out weigh it's use as a weed killer. Boron (Borax) does not break down in the soil!
Do you think I should apply weed and feed in my yard with all the creeping Charlie before I seed and fertilize
Kim Alexander I'm not a fan of weed and feed products at all - see here th-cam.com/video/1Cjm6qLy7HA/w-d-xo.html
5 oz of borax? Is that by weight or by volume? Big difference.
Since it's a solid, I'm guessing by weight, but good question.
I would get armpump in like 2 minutes trying to spray my whole lawn with a trigger-sprayer. I'll be using a garden-sprayer on fine mist setting, thanks...
It's early spring and our lawn my be 35% Creeping Charlie with a lot of bare spots. We are adopting your Borax and Weed-B-Gone eradicating technique. How soon after this program, or what do you recommend to renovate the lawn? i.e.; organic matter, soils, seed...? Can we get away with top dressing? Lastly Milorganite is had to find in Canada or just not sold here, is there a good substitute like a Scotts? FYI,we do have an underground irrigation system. Thank you in advance for all your great tips, really helps.
+Joseph Walker I have never used top dressing as a form of lawn treatment. I just use organic fertilizers. If you cannot get Milorgnite, just get whatever organic fert is available to you. It should work just fine.
The bigger question here was; isn't there a recommended wait period after using defoliants before planting grass seed? The top dressing reference was in regard to filling in the patches/spaces where the Creeping Charlie once was. Thanks
+Joseph Walker gotcha- and yes the label on the bottle you utilized will tell you the safe zone for new plantings.
+The Lawn Care Nut Thank you...!
Hey! Just wondering how long after treatment it takes to notice some results. I treated 3 days ago and it still appears to be alive and well.
Can you still mow the lawn during the 14 days you wait for the charlie to start drying out?
LCN, do you have a series or advise for wild thyme? I live in the Adirondack Mountains, and this stuff is starting to take my lawn with a vengeance since last year! Please help.
Should I do this before or after aeration/overseesing/milorganite? If before, how long do I need to wait before fertilizing/seeding?
Hi. I have creeping charlie on my turf. We in canada can't use 2 4d. Can I use this borax solution to kill weed alone ? Without 2 4d ? After how long I can re apply it. Or it will get too strong and can kill lawn too...
Do you have any videos on how to get rid of Lesser celandine in lawns?
How about putting cardboard down and depriving it of light for a couple of weeks?
Another good tip for weed control. I keep treat my mom has a little creeping Charlie or is it creeping Jenny with weed killer and it would yellow but never go away. I'll have to try the Borax. I always add some dish soap not anti bacteria soap to my weed control tank sprayer. Could you show us how to mix grass seed while your fertilizer maybe a fall video? I know Tru green does this when they fertilize there lawns. Can't wait for vid 2 on creeping Charlie!
I think you will like the next video! You are already on the right track.
I live in Alberta, Canada. I've been told that I cannot access borax in Canada? ? I have a creeping charlie problem and need to know what to use to get rid of it once and for all.
I've been pulling it out by hand. Had about 8 patches roughly 1/4-1/2sw ft. It seems to like to grow mostly where the lawn meets the walkway. I'm hoping my kentucky bluegrass will fill it in, but maybe I should reseed these areas.
Does this mix work on other weeds? Crabgrass nutsedge, etc...?
Firtilome Weed Free Zone. I buy the ready to spray version because I am incapable of mixing the right amount of anything.
Borax on its own did not take care of my Charlie. I'm trying to avoid chemicals but have decided to try tenacity this fall after reading many reviews on it. Would it be smart to apply borax then tenacity? I was thinking of spraying borax and then hitting it with two applications of tenacity two weeks later.
sure that is fine
Where is the link to 2 4D weed spray with dicama?
I noticed a newer video for clovers where you say to use baby shampoo. Is that just for clovers or can we use that method for Creeping Charlie as well?
"Charlie" has taken over about 75% of my back yard...so I hope this treatment is suitable for a large area. I've tried to get rid of it each year for the past 2 or 3, but not successfully. Is this treatment good to do now, or should I wait until the Fall...which is what I heard from a different source?
Syrbuff you can do it now. It will work on large areas but for me, it's easier to divide and conquer. Work on sections.
Thanks! I'll take that into consideration.
The Lawn Care Nut I live in Alberta, Canada. what do I do about my creeping charlie problem as I apparently cannot access borax. thank you and I absolutely love your tips.
Does this only work on creeping charlie? I have a Hooded blue violet problem!! Just wondering if I can try this on that??
+East Wind yes it will work on violets!
It best to get better quality herbicide with higher concentrations of 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic and Triclopyr, like Crossbow or TZone. Big box companies like ortho usually have more watered down concentrations of these chemicals. Make sure you wear gloves and probably best to wear a respirator if you are spraying large areas
A few questions.
What’s the best time of year to do this
I’m starting my over seed process now will this method of killing the creeping Charlie interfere with it? Should I just wait until very end of fall after new grass has taken hold?
Thanks
Hey..is this available in canada
Ive tried everything the lawn specialists
Here have suggested ...nothing works forgot the name but has a tiny yellow flower
The tiny yellow flower plant could be wood sorel...or, my kids call it sour grass because you can eat it!
Buttercup
Is this available in canada i have a similar weed forget the name ..i have tried
Q: How long before I can put more grass seed down?
Thank you so much! I’m going to do the borax part today
Yeah I would also like to see a series on getting rid of clovers because those give me the most problems.
Clover is not a problem. It adds nitrogen to the soil and creates soil life. Listen to mother nature. Don't destroy her - by trying to grow the grass that is killing our planet just by "maintaining" it.
Mirla Lacen don't think getting rid of clover in my lawn will destroy the world. Plenty of wild clover growing on the river Banks and along the highways in Nebraska!
It's the toxins Mike.
ChicagoSirens Clover is good for the Bees and improves soil with nitrogen
Mirla Lacen who the hell is putting toxins on my yard? I have pets and kids/ grandkids that play in my yard. Getting tired of people deciding what is right or wrong for my home and family. I want a nice looking lawn the kids can play on! I do habitat restoration on a couple miles of land that the company I worked for own. Plenty of wild clover and natural grasses and other forage for the critters. We put out food plots and get old corn from grain elevators for deer and birds. We think the predators every fall and winter to keep a good balance between predators and prey. We've raised quail and released them there. We've stocked the ponds with fish. I don't think we've damaged mother nature here by mowing or taking care of our lawns!
Great Video Allyn. You're videos are awesome. Will Tenacity eradicate creeping Charlie or only control it each season?
Does the Surfacant you mentioned in the Clover video help with this mixture as well?
I tried this last year but it didn't do anything...What season is the best time to try this again?
late spring into early summer is best
Consistent pulling them out and placing grass clippings, branches and placing them on top of the area has worked for me.
Weed killer, vinegar etc has not worked.
I would add not to spray the lawn if the temp is over 85, or raining, best early morning while the dew is on the grass, it will soak up the chemical better , or right after sun down, low wind condition's, follow up with a pre emergent herbicide