There's been a lot of discussion about my contribution to this collab, and discussion or disagreement is fine. In fact it drives views and engagement, which is why it triggered in a lot of the anonymous 'bot accounts to chime in. But to those who sincerely feel I disrespected Jess's work or was out of line with what I added, I'm afraid you're mistaken. I loved the motif of the upstretched hands, which is why I tried to spotlight and accentuate them. I wrote to Jess asking if she was OK with what I did, and she replied that she is not at all offended. On the contrary she said she's excited the direction it's taking. And TenHundred's original marching orders in his cover letter were to feel free to overpaint, modify, or change it, and that he wished for a "cohesive composition." It's just paint, folks-or really just pixels-a sketching game, a chance to learn, a bit of visual fun, and we're all friends....in fact I sent Jess the Wanted Poster and she's got it framed.
I totally agree that there's a lack of cohesion in this project. There was little of that in the previous collab, nor is there in the other currently running project. Everybody seems to want to do their own signature thing and not really consider the whole of the canvas. But onwards to see what Aaron decided to do with this painting, I can't wait.
@@fussynotions I don’t for a second think James was referring to negative comments about his work. He is referring to the ‘hey, I contacted *insert fake investment banker* and made $1 million in my first month’ type of comments. I’m sure they are being deleted as soon as they are spotted.
A JOURNEY WITH GURNEY!!! Thank you James! I’d like to clear some clouds and bring some sunshine. Let’s not forget: This indeed is a collaboration and a beautiful opportunity to connect with one another, contribute together as artists, and share cool creative insights with everyone around the world! And most importantly have fun creating :) Art allows us to see thousands of new perspectives so let’s all support one another in a positive light! We are all here just doing our best with pure intentions. It’s exciting seeing this painting evolve as its passed to each incredible artist and even more exciting that it will help many more through charity in the end. Thank you all for your support on the collab Ten Hundred started that brings so much joy to us all! Much love always
Jess: As an older female and fan, my (unsolicited) life advice is to always stand up for your work and for yourself. There's a horrible dynamic at play here...you're being taken advantage of and it's disheartening to watch.
@@jennifercase3666 as a younger human being and an admirer of art….. I think she’s entitled to her her opinion and she has given her opinion in very clear words….she’s a grown woman please don’t make it about gender…..it’s for charity….artists from different background and different art styles are collaborating….they are going to paint over others….and do what they think would be best to make this better Hope you have a great day😇
@@jennifercase3666 it’s incredibly common within traditional art collaborations for the artists to cover each other’s work; not doing so is really a very new concept, and often made in poor choice. When writing books together with another writer, you wouldn’t leave every part each person wrote in, that’d be a horrible, confusing, and difficult to read book. Whole sections end up on the editing room floor. We’re being granted an incredibly rare and unique perspective in to the actual journey, process, and evolution of an art piece and how it works, including parts we may not like that we’d normally never see. You should consider watching with joy and excitement to see how it turns out, instead of demanding stagnation. And if all else fails, remember: if you were never witness to the process and only got to see the end result, you’d most likely adore the final piece. So please, kindly stop being offended on another’s behalf, especially after that person has clearly stated they are not offended. If they are but say they aren’t, that’s for them to resolve still, and it’s not your business. Take Jess at face value, and listen to HER; telling her how to feel is as bad as that ideology which you seek to oppress.
What a journey this painting has been on! Interesting to see your thought process behind what you ended up creating. I'm honored to share a project with some of my art heroes :)
I honestly didn’t even realize how useful talking to another creative could be. And currieGOAT, the piece you did I thought was extremely cool and clever adding the panels and expanding it. Great work 👌🏼
It’s amusing to me because my partner and I saw him mention extending the piece and we both went “LIKE DENZEL!” 😂😂😂 Wild that you both had the same idea without even knowing it! 💖
I got chills when James was brain storming the possibility of adding canvas area to the price, because I had just watched your video. I thought the triptych expansion was an excellent idea.
it is always so interesting to see how much effort and knowledge you put in your videos. And they are so chilled - thanks a lot James! I really love your thoughts and descriptions!
Gurney is a great painter and educator. I've learned so much watching his videos over the past few years. And I've got a couple books on painting by him too.
You are both legends and my top favorite living artists. I was super excited for this! Not gonna lie, I was expecting dinosaurs from James Gurney. Because everyone is putting their “signature” characters in there. But Reddy Kilowatt is a much better choice, more fitting of the pop art theme, but from the 60s which is still a very James Gurney thing to do. You are right about balancing the colors. I also expected you would do that to balance the overall colors and complement Greg Simkins’s grayed out rabbit. Your color choices made the whole painting a lot better. The caliber of artists on this collab is already over the moon, but you blew my mind on the next collaborator! Another living legend! I’m expecting lion king or simba, but I’m sure whatever the result would be mind blowing too.
Past forms to present art forms which he stated was a collaboration with artificial intelligence. And he only had over thirty minutes with the story. Brava James!
It's disappointing that thoughtful art critique is now seen as "throwing shade or being disrespectful " critiquing art is what people have done since art has been created. I never once in the entire video felt that anything said was rude or discounted the talent of the other artists involved. It was simply a critique and opinion of the piece itself which is meant to be multiple artists adding and overlapping each other. In addition, I think season three would be cool to have an overarching theme to assist in the composition so it would have a cohesive flow. Things to think about for the future. 🤔
I can critique someone’s work, sure, specially a man with his recognition and trajectory, but critiquing and acting on said critique by obliterating part of another artist’s work are different things. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ every artist in all 3 collabs have understood that “overlapping” over other artists’ work is so as to give your own art an “in”, not to “fix” someone else’s work, it’s a collab among artists, not artists and their editor. It was an act of hubris. He knew he had to leave space for two more artists and took over the entire left side (I do like his character; just way too big) and decided to erase another artist’s work due to his ego regarding what he thinks is rightful composition given his own (and his wife’s?) conception, and screw anyone else’s.
@Pumpkin Queen but her art is not obliterated. The hands are still extremely prominent, literally framing the other characters and the woman in the upper corner is also drawing your eye. The best part of art is discussing it together and opening your mind to other opinions. I hear your opinion and at first, watching the video I was a bit taken aback too when he added to it there. So I went back and looked at the piece before and after each artist to really look at the changes made. I think that when you look at them back to back Jess's art is still a large portion of the overall piece. I hope you can also hear my thoughts and have an open mind. I think this piece is going to be a very interesting mix of new and old styles when it's all said and done. Who knows how the next person will overlap or change it. 🙂
@@Ironchick22 they’ll have to crazy overlap since there’s no space left. The issue is if anyone watched Jess’s video it was quite the profound process, everything was thought out (whether one likes it or not is another story; I personally like Tenhun and Kiptoe’s additions the best for my liking, not so much hers, but I wholeheartedly appreciate her work). But knowing the artist’s process I would think it deserved more respect. I’m not an artist so perhaps I’m spewing nonsense, I’m an attorney, and if I was looking over a colleague’s brief and saw the thought and research put into it, even if I thought it was wrong, I wouldn’t just delete pages, I’d critique it, for sure, but I wouldn’t just hit delete🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@Pumpkin Queen I love hearing more of your opinion!! I think it's a fair critique. 🤔 I think Jess's video was lovely and her process was wonderful to watch. In the overall spirit of the collab, even in season one, artists were constantly making changes to others' additions. Each artist also used a different amount of space. The best part is that it's all for a good cause and meant to be constantly altered and changed and open our view to artists that maybe people didn't follow or know about. I am sure the artists involved will make suggestions for the next season and also read comments from videos and possibly also take some of these concerns/critiques and alter the rules. Thank you for having this chat, so much can be lost with just text and no body language or vocal inflection. People can immediately jump to anger and I truly do love hearing and understanding others' observations. We all grow each time. 🙂
I’m genuinely excited to see the direction you take this in! I originally went to school for animation, and it’s because of the work you did. Granted, life took different turns for me, but my love for your work has never waned. Of course finding out you had a TH-cam channel is like discovering gold!! I hope you have fun with this piece and this experience. 💖👻🖤
Seeing you two spitballing ideas and narratives off eachother was so interesting. I really like all the other artists but I agree, with too much free reign it does risk just becoming a noisy collage of detailed characters with little cohesion. It was fascinating seeing you bring a completely new and fresh strategy when adding to the piece. Having watched videos from all the other participants I honestly think they will value your ideas and artistic input.
Some of the most famous art pieces had the most controversy! 1. Ten Hundred CLEARLY STATED that people are allowed to modify this painting as they wish. So that overall clears everything that happened in this video. Like it or not. 2. Jess commented and expressed her calmness about it all. She’s a grown woman who doesn’t need you guys to defend her. And even if she didn’t like it, like stated before Ten Hundred approved modifications. This was a great video explaining on how the direction of this painting could go to help enhance it by having balance. I think every artist took on this project knowing the assignment. And just because the other artist decided to not modify anybody else’s piece it doesn’t mean that he was wrong in doing so. Because like I stated earlier Ten Hundred HIMSELF gave free reign for artist to do whatever they wanted. I’m glad that you broke the mold, this art piece was never meant to be kept within guidelines of a box, it was supposed to be a collaboration of free expression. and I’m excited to see the direction that this art piece can go now that the walls have been taken down!!
I don't have a problem with the modifications, and for the most part, I love what James did. I will say that while the rest of the painting is complex, and I loved that his upper left art was a nice counter balance, I feel that he went to far with the simple 'smoke' in the hands; to me, it felt disconnected. I think some modification to the complex fire in the hands with light smoke would have been great to calm it down and then carry that up with the highlight he mentioned near 10 hun's piece. But, I personally thought it was too simple in that area now, and the juxtaposition didn't give my eyes a place to rest, but instead was almost more jarring in the abrupt change.
People here in the comments are screaming no sense about the painting. The work of Jess is still visible, the painting now has more cohesive sense..and James are literally given us a master class of different artis concepts, culture etc ... for God sake, have patience, learn through the process, open your mind to the information .
I don't think I'm the only one who hoped you would add a dinosaur or two, but this is so interesting! You're educating us about both the past and the future of art.
Everyone painted over each other’s painting, just watch their videos on it. Overpainting is part of the spirit of this collab. It does not detract, but rather adds to the painting’s overall story. Ten hundred (the first artist) himself said that he’d wish the next artists would paint over his work because he accidentally painted his astronaut fox bigger than he intended and he took too much space. Kiptoe helped set the tone of painting over others, and Jess Karp followed suit, so did Greg Simkins. Greg even painted over ten hundred’s bottle and filled it with smoke. Everyone painted over everyone. Each artist’s work has their own story, like Jess Karp’s giant hands with fluttering birds evolving into the mystical woman. Although succeeding artists painted over previous artists, they did not take away from the story but rather changed and added onto it. That’s how collaborations are supposed to be. The original story, before overpainting, is not wasted. This is an art youtuber collab and each youtuber’s video on their work is an integral part of this painting. Their original story is preserved there in their videos, and the updated collab story is shown on the current painting’s facade.
@@paputz72 I don’t think he destroyed Jessica’s art at all. And in all fairness, she worked in two areas so I feel that what he did was completely reasonable. He didn’t alter her main focus piece. I was nervous when he wanted to add ring light to tenhundreds character though being a central focus. I love his dinosaurs but I was not impressed with this piece. I wonder how much of this was to honor his collector friend or something versus creating his own work. Also I could have done without the consistent complaining about the piece being so busy. It’s a collab for charity showcasing different artists and was never intended to be a perfect masterpiece.
I love how the filming/editing is like an old educational tv show, its so nostalgic lol... i also like how the critique was honest, the painting was feeling one dimensional and too busy... but you added so much depth
Instead of someone else’s character, I’d have liked to see James’ own original character, something unique to him. I learned a lot by watching and listening to James and the other artist.
I think his idea is he wanted to pay homage to the early beginnings of cartoons and cartoon characters, also doing something that is more simple and less illustrative/more painterly really adds to the composition of this painting. These youtuber artist painting collabs honestly all look pretty bad, I think James took the right approach in thinking of the composition before his own wants.
This is my favorite segment of the collab so far. I loved that you guys actually talked about how the whole thing was becoming too jumbled and tried to help it be cohesive. I also LOVE your use of props and editing in art during the video. Very excited to subscribe.
Yes! I feel that all the other artists worked from a self serving place, just adding things they wanted to paint. That is in no way a bad thing, as i think at first we just needed subject on canvas. Now that its half way through its a good time to step back and consider the piece as a whole. Hes analysing the piece through a technical lense and trying to solve the issues it presents. That's exciting to me as an artist, and should be celebrated because essentially that's what artists do, discover and solve technical problems, or conceptual ideas, or nagging questions, or visual interpretations.
I love that you made it a story about collaboration and design and how it has evolved over the decades. You managed to show us how you interacted with the painting itself with a very old school method of tracing paper and real live smoke bombs. Many today would have just used layers in Photoshop. Then you contrasted talking with real humans vs. Interacting with AI. All with the basic premise of passing art back and forth between contemporary artists and using references from historical artists. To think you also edited into a really engaging TH-cam video with distribution blows my mind. This has so many layers of genius. You are truly creative James Gurney!
Now this is how art should be discussed! They are spot on in seeing that it's cool what the other artists have done, yet it's so complicated and leaves nowhere for the eyes to rest. It was refreshing to see talent talk through the process of how they were going to make the painting better before they worried about what they were going to put on--they actually saw the painting as a whole and figured out what would work best. Excellent work James and I can't wait to see the finished piece!
I love her art!! I was very surprised how much space she took up and felt bad for the future collaborators with less space . What she created was gorgeous….I personally wouldn’t take up so much space . She is bold :)
Wow, I didn’t know what to expect from this video but Im impressed at how much thought you put into this, your contribution didn’t only added one image to the piece, you stepped back and looked at the entire composition, and even better. You brought expert eyes into mix. Loved your video!
New sub! It's a collad, not a collage. To anybody saying he took too much space... take a good look. Jess has the bigger piece. Add her two pieces up and it's 1/4 of the canvas. Yes her story was erased, but the color cohesion is better now. He may sound arrogant throughout the vid, but we as artists know that we are learning every single day. And he and his guest made some good critiques. Still in love with it.
I thought the same thing, noone complained that she took 2 separate big spaces or that the rabbit covered some birds too, they just complained here because he drew more attention to it and they dont know how to differentiate between critique and insults
Honestly I felt ten hundred made his space character too big, then Jess added too much with the hands, and female character, and the person who painted the clock made it too big. These two gentlemen were right in saying the piece was too busy and needed to be pulled back a bit to make it a more cohesive art piece.
@@BuklauTheLegend having this collab as well as the past one and being able to compare it to the "smallest art collab" just show us that the subscriber count doesn't matter in a collaboration, most of the big channels are making the same mistakes as the smaller ones by not understanding the difference between a collaboration and a collage, and when someone with more experience in that field comes and do what it is expected and literally stated in the rules everyone goes against him because he did something different. Almost every artist so far wanted their piece to stand out from the others and include a very different style (including the one who did the frame last season)
Dear Mr. James Gurney, I think your addition to this collaboration was amazing. Not only in the painting process but the filming as well. I appreciate you giving us the experience of watching artists give feedback and discuss how to take a piece to the next level all while being passionate and excited about the project. This experience is priceless for us self taught artists & although others may feel negatively about it, there must be people like me that wish to have access to that sort of content. Such helpful comments to keep in mind for my personal projects.
I love that you adressed how busy this painting is! It's so much it makes me dizzy. I feel like all the artist competed and not collaborated with each other.
Well done with great insight from a Master. This painting is a story brought forth by all the artist that have and will paint it. A collaboration is just that. Play off off one another’s colors, characters, style and blend, distort, add to or take away. You did amazing and I am excited to see what Aaron does to this.
What I liked about your video is that weren't afraid to make a reasonable criticism of the painting, I liked that you don't need to do something disproportionate with a lot of unnecessary details, I think that when talking about a collaboration everyone can be willing to have their work intervened for better coercion, especially if you decided to take up that much space in the first place like Jess I look at the comments on this video and the comments on the video of the artist who made the bunny and realize that the person who made the following comment on Jess's video was right "Jess did a good job but took up a lot of space from others artists, and now anyone who paints over their painting will be criticized like a disrespectful person”
@@meeks3294 how come taking two huge spaces in a collaboration piece is okay but when one of the chosen artist (and a master for his own right) balancing the piece (her work is still prominent) is ego?
The whole idea here is to create a tapestry of multiple artists. Each artist adds a warp and a weave to the design. No rules; each artist puts down what they feel they want and the tapestry goes on. James added his touch and whether folks like it or not, it was HIS touch. The tapestry takes another turn. Artists playing off what the previous one did has always been a thing. Look at Simpkins completely painting over Jess' bird. It's ALL OK and it adds to the whole. I can't wait to see Aaron Blaise add to this tapestry of art. The variance in style from the traditional to the urban street is so amazing. Good job everyone!
Art is subjective and fluid, this piece is certainly dynamic. It's extremely busy and chaotic, and absolutely representative of the different artists and the styles they applied. Change to the overall artwork is the nature of the beast when you have so many hands and creative minds involved. I love each contribution. And while I might not have been comfortable with the choice made to paint over such a large portion of someone else's work, (the effect and dove from the hands that Jess incorporated) it's not up to me or anyone else. Just the artists involved. Because at the end of the day, it's not commissioned, there are no overarching guidelines, and the artists were given pretty much free reign. It's also not our place to tell someone what they should have added. Open thoughtful criticism is excellent. It's part of art. Talking crap is not.
Honestly I was kind of sad when he painted over Jess’ work, I loved how she incorporated the places with the dragon’s tail, and how her creativity through her hands was flowing out to the other artists work. Not gonna lie it now feels unfinished. There was so much depth beforehand that when you look at the huge flat space in the middle with no shading, it’s seems a bit messy. It also doesn’t blend in with the dragon’s tail anymore so now it feels like it’s cut off and competing against instead of flowing with. I know ten hundred said he could overlap his artwork with others, but the recreation of the flame wasn’t part of his artwork, it was Jess’. And honestly that flame was one of the main things that held the flow of the painting together. But now it doesn’t. I wish he just left it be, but I can’t change anything. All I can say is that Jess’ artwork was my absolute favorite on this season and now a third of that artwork is gone.
Great observation on the content limitations of Dall-E. We pretend that the algorithm is pure, unbiased image generation. But there is bias deliberately program into the tool by the creators. We need to accept that art contains themes of darker concepts just as much (if not more) than lighter ones. And we are constantly changing the definition of what is acceptable. Nudity has been a prime feature of western art. The machine won’t allow someone to imagine that. I think this will create a radicalized movement of artists who will paint and create themes that a machine cannot capture because it lies outside of their logic parameters much as the impressionists and related art schools were a rebellion against the strictures of the academic style. Overall, I think it is a great tool to help whet someone’s speculation without the time cost of generating these images by hand. They remind me of an image from a dream quite realistic but SOMETHING doesn’t match reality.
I was pleased that the painting finally got into the hands of older experienced masters who understood the essence of joint work and smoothed the overall composition. Unlike the previous ones, who presented beautiful works, but rather focused on detail and seemed to be competing with each other. And painting the thumb to the hands added depth to the image.
Thats a pretty faulty understanding of what this type of collab is, its for each artists to fill a space with whatever they want to. They literally pick artists one after the other, anyone who got picked by the end could've said "you know imma unite all this stuff cause i feel like it" furthermore painting over the other artist's work doesnt only miss the mark of what this is about but also highly disrespectful. Its arrogant to see a piece of work that is a literal jigsaw puzzle with each piece giving the spotlight to each of the artist's style of work, as a thing you should fix when it isnt about thinking you know better, this is like a birthday party and one kids wants cake before birthday boy/girl cause "its a celebration for everyone" thinking you can make something better was a thing any other of the artists could of come up with, but they didnt due to sheer *respect* for the collaboration' *point* which is clear once you think they would of gathered to design a whole piece if they actually wanted to.
@@bozmundarts2614 The end goal of this collab is to have one painting is it not? The rules state that Painting over another artist's work is allowed. Yes, the last person has the final say as to what to paint over and what to leave, and they could cover the painting if they wanted to (which would be kinda funny, and would cause a huge drama). All jokes aside, someone would have to address the problems with the painting eventually. The later that would happen, the harder it would be to fix. Among all the artists participating in any of the collaborations, James is actually the most knowledgeable, skilled, and accomplished. He's a pro illustrator - composition, and readability are very important for him, so he tried to address it. Sacrificing a few details to improve readability is not that big of a deal. And yes, I think that an artist's contribution to the piece can be "fixed" or even erased from the painting if it benefits the end result. That is if the goal is to have a cohesive final painting and not just a collection of unrelated doodles by art TH-camrs. The problem is that in these collabs nobody thinks about the composition and in the end, none of them works as a painting. Everyone goes big for the center of the painting, and the in the end people are left with scraps at the edges. The end result always looks like a bad collage and not a good painting at all. It would be nice if one artist provided linework in their style;e for another one to color it in their style, and another one to provide background in their style, etc... Or another process in which the work of the next artist is built on the foundation provided by the previous one, and not around it as it is at the moment.
@@bartwitiak the point is have fun, make a mess, that's what these collabs are. If you want a full composition just made by multiple people... suggest it... from the start! Plan it... from the start! Otherwise, dont call out the lack of compositional cohesion in this work when its your turn to have your fun, it makes him look like a douchebag, completely missing the point of this which is to just make every artist's thing stand out in their portion and have fun. Oh its not a amazing masterfully crafted whole piece! Dear god may some artists dare not to try and make a visually pleasing image for everyone! The point of art is to express yourself not measure a creation by rules! And god forbid if some artists just wanna mess around where each puts their own thing, anything they want, just have at it. You know, have fun. Is that a rule too to make a "painting" of "good taste" forever and always?
@@bozmundarts2614 well, Ten Hun stated in his original video that he wants a cohesive piece of art in the end and that's one of the reasons he allowed people to paint over each other. There is a double standard in your view on what Gurney did. Did he not have fun? Did he not make a mess? I'm pretty sure he did both. Why should the measure of what he did and whether it's a success be your definition of art and fun? Perhaps he should follow his own sense of what art and fun is and act on it, which I think he did. Why are others allowed to do whatever they want, and he is not? Either there are no rules, and therefore he can do whatever he wants, or there are rules, just the ones you made up for yourself. I other words, fun is allowed as long it's your kind of fun within your understanding of what art should be, otherwise it's a failure.
I can't say I'm as excited about this addition as the others, sadly. I really liked how the previous artists (mostly) made up characters for this, as for me it represent how the creative flow allows us to come up with endless new characters or interpretations. So using an already established character didn't feel like it followed that theme in quite the same way. I do like how it's red and kind uses the same common element from the rest, but it being almost the same shade of red as the dragon smudges out the silhouette a little at the same time. And for some reason I really don't like the power pole in the background haha. I think it might be because all the other elements are connected to or intertwined from the center of the piece, so it being grounded in a background outside of the frame feels odd to me and like it's not quite fitting perfectly with the rest of the piece. I wonder if it would have a different feel if Kilowatt was sort of floating along with the rest of these characters instead. It's a really well done part in any case, just maybe not my personal favorite
To be honest I don't get why everyone is complaining, when I saw that Jess claimed two separate spaces I thought it was unfair at first, but after thinking for more than 2 seconds I realized that it started to make the painting more cohesive and that the other creators would cover parts or her artwork if they needed that space. In fact this is not the first time that her birds were covered and the last time noone complained, they only complained here because he drew more attention to it, so everyone rushed to the comments instead of realizing that her hands were highlited and her character fitted better with the composition after he was done.
I think it is funny how the most common reason was that he "ruined" her story, but she added that story without consideration for what already was in the canvas, while beautiful it didn't make sense thematically, so it doesn't diminish anything by transforming it, specially after we know he had verbal consent by her even after the definition of a collab and the rules said it was ok and expected to do so
I'm less than halfway through this video, but I love listening to masters at work talking about painting, composition, lighting and story. So unexpected, but amazing. Edit: Finished the video...it's going to Aaron Blaise! Amazing! Lions, Tigers and Bears, oh my and so much more to come ;)
I’m a 28 year old female draft’s person in the construction industry in NY. And like every industry there’s always a gap between how things use to be done and how they will be or are done now with all the new tools and technology that didn’t exist before. Young engineers and architects are Coming up with new concepts that are meant to improve the way it was done before, much of it works and is innovative but as a draftsperson I’ve noticed that there’s always a flaw in design/functionality of a system. The young always complicate the simple or simplify the complex to where sometimes functionality or technicality in how something is meant to work or be built is lost. every industry experiences this gap between the older generation and new and this reminded me of it. Not In a bad way but in way that made me happy. To see you have to get creative while sharing your wisdom in this craft. Even sharing what you thought about AI. The other artist were great and i love what they’ve done but it was so creative to see how your style and art was incorporated and what a nice addition it was. The effort in collaboration in ideas makes me happy. Thank you 🙏🏽
I'm not sure how I feel about Mel's comments on the other artists but I'm glad it sorta worked out in the end. It also goes to show that art is subjective and while that generation is stuck in it's ways, art evolves with time
I sort of agree, Hilma, but as they say "that's free speech, baby!" I'm glad they included that part because Mel's got something to say, should be respected and it's only words.
I LOVE that this collab has jumped generations. Everyone has something to teach, and I think this whole idea is really spectacular. We need to communicate in physical ways these days, discuss and express ourselves. I'm sad about the small bird, but hey, if Jess is okay with it, let's go! Can't wait to see the next installment!
I was engaged through the whole video 😅 a bit different to the slick videos of Tenhun and the others, but definitely not a bad thing! LOVE WHAT YOU DID! You'll definitely balanced the piece.
Hahahaha thx so much for setting the scene and not burning the collab! :D I was led to you by following it and am glad to have seen your part!!! I really like the background stories and interviews you added to your character.
The fact u stepped outside of the box is what makes me love u as an artist ❤ u were not scared to paint over or over lap the work. U went with your own style and didn’t try and mesh with what was there. This is true picasso 😮💨 NO LIMITS 🎉
I really loved what you guys said about the art, and I completely agree. Everyone tried to paint something that said who they are and forgot about thinking what is already on the canvas. Apologies for any confusion, my home language is Afrikaans. I love how you involved Mel and Mel had so many insight and made me think more about my art. You gained another follower. Keep up the great work.
Strange video style, the AI stuff felt out of place in the collab video, could have had its own space. I liked the idea he had for expanding the canvas and adding a wizard to the background to meet up with the hands, too bad he didn't go with that idea, it would have been great to see both paintings expand the canvas in the same week. I see what they're saying about the painting having a lot going on, I feel like it has maybe gone to too many character artists, everyone is adding a new character rather than other elements, and yet he added more characters. Also a little unsure about the smoke addition over Jess's work as I really liked the hand art originally, but it's difficult to get a good feel for the before and after from the video.
I think the adjustment to Jess's hands was exactly what the painting needed. As they said, it had become too complex, and when you want to bring something together that small section between the hands was really the best opportunity. I love where its going and I cannot wait to see Aaron Blaise's contribution! so exciting!!!
there is a difference between overlapping and just covering someone's hard work for the sake of not being the center of attention. His character is an ugly little toy that has nothing to do with the story and soul of this painting so far and i truly hope whoever is next covers a chunk of it up or fixes it and adds something better to it bc it looks bad.
@@BrianaLynn7 Its ok if his art isn't to your taste. The risk of a collaboration is that you won't enjoy everyone's contribution. However most current successful artists, at some point, have admired and studied James's work for guidance. I can't express this enough, he really doesn't need to sabotage another artist to be the centre of attention. I am curious what you think the story of the painting is? no shade, genuinely curious.
@@PenImp Everyone explained their parts. I’m not an artist but I have eyes and a brain and my opinion matters just as much. Ten hundred made a cool character to build off of. Kiptoe added the dragon around the character continuing the whimsical nature and then Jess brought in those hands to show how those characters came to be. The. next guy took inspiration from the women like the queen of hearts and added the rabbit. The story isn’t exactly perfect but the pierces go together and look nice. His is boring and not even remotely tied in. He made the beautiful glow of the hands into a dull boring hands with awkward thumbs
@@BrianaLynn7 Well hopefully the next person (who is wonderful artist!) will create something awesome 👍 I’m curious to see how he’ll try and fit into the story!
Absolutely losing my mind over the fact that the OG Dinosaur man A) has a TH-cam channel, and B) has joined an awesome Collab of excellent artists. I'M SO EXCITED I'M PRACTICALLY VIBRATING!!!!
I would love to see someone just not be afraid to paint over the other artists. Im a big fan of Basquiat and Warhol and some interviews/docus show how when they collabed they would just constantly paint over each other. Shows you how fragile an idea you thought of really is when it could be destroyed or reinterpreted entirely and potentially end up as something better than before. With this challenge it’s interesting but also frustrating how every artist knows the rules when they start yet they deliberately try to paint around each other instead of taking risks.
Agreed. It always works better if you're acquainted with the other artists and how they feel about heavy reworking. Also, I think it's always best to start a collaboration like this with a specific theme or direction rather then throwing it open to "whatever you want to add."
Artists who came up in the graffiti world are sensitive to paint overs as it was/is a sign of disrespect It’s also interesting to see and hear the comments wrt theme or not , which I would attribute to how the artist came up and their age/experience. Perhaps the older guys just throw caution to the wind collar and the ‘younger’ ones do a themed one. Either way , we listen and learn from each interaction and how each artists background drives them to think about their contributions. Imho
Taking risks doesnt mean destroying the storyline and the beauty others tried to contribute with their art. Im in shock! He was asked to collab not to edit and criticise others work.
@@JamesGurney If that's what you thought then you should have politely declined it going to you. Destroying someone else's work and being as disrespectful as all of you were in this video was not the way to go about it.
Its interesting to watch this painting evolve as it passes through so many different artists. Each one is at such a wildly different stage of their artistic career and videography career, so seeing some approach it as a collab and others approach it as an artistic sampling for viewers is very very thought provoking. I love Gurney's art, and I was really hoping for a surrealist addition to the piece (hopefully including a dino), so this was a surprising outcome. I can't say I like it, and watching the swirls and bird above Jess's hands get painted over was hard. But everyone this season has painted over everyone else, and the folks in the video were right, the composition needed help to tone down the overwhelming nature of the piece.
Jess Karp's addition was my favorite in this series, and so when I read the comments saying her part or story was covered up, I was scared, but when I saw the final result, I don't see what the fuss was about. Her story was about hands overflowing with creativity, and it's still there. Yes, we lost the wisps and the bird (sad to see the birds go), but the hands are still glowing and flowing with creativity.
yeah I was kind of sad that he didn't re-paint the bird, but I think it still looks good. it sounded like he gave it a lot of thought to truly improve the compsition and the whole piece.
If I painted Jess Karp's part, all the hours spent on those hands, with all the whispy drip and smoke detail and the birds, for it to be covered with what looks like some 5 year old finger blasted every pastelle colour in his posession over it, I'd be pissed. I understand a little blending into anothers work may be needed or a bit of a cut across, but to fully paint over 40-50% of someone's work which was 10x better than what covered it... Diabolical... This painting had the potential to sell for way more than the 1st painting, now, I think not with that burning reminder. That would have made me retract any thoughts of placing a bid.
@@Forbidaxe well according to a different comment, he asked jess if she was ok with it and she agreed. So we really don't have any right to get offended in her stead
@@Forbidaxe but you didn't paint that. And if you had the ability to do so, you would also have developed the humility to be critiqued as well as the understanding that you can always paint another. Gurney has absolutely improved the cohesiveness of the piece, if you can't see that then you are either purposefully blinding yourself or never learnt to see through an artistic lens in the first place.
I love the fact that he including the creative process being born as they brain storm the ideas before coming to the conclusion of what the final product would be. I wasn't expecting to see that included because most youtube artists just start it of with "so I had this idea" and, boom, there it is. This was a good representation of what goes into birthing these ideas, instead of making it seem like it just presented itself to the artist fully fleshed out. I always wonder how the artist finally decides, out of the infinite possibilities they have to choose from, what they're creation will be. It truly is a birthing process
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. You blend your quirky humour with genuinely fascinating subjects, paintings a narration so beautifully. I love the way Mel thinks and his idea was so fitting. Thanks James!
thats what i said!!!!!! I don't think this guy cared at ALL about this process and it being a community thing. He wasn't excited to open it or sent it off, he just blabbed about unrelated things. HIS character doesn't match, and HIS attitude is narcisistic honestly
I especially loved the DALL-E2 images inserted into an antique, analog image device. Really enjoy the interplay of past with future that you and Greg each brought to the piece.
Kinda wish we had more of a reveal after you finished, but thats all good. Looks good. Although I panicked a little with the little bird being removed. XD
Why? She took so much space on the canvas. I actually feel bad for the other artists that will have to modify/squeeze their own work in. What James did was amazing, her work is still there and the hands are very much the power of the artists imagination. The birds were just the eggs that made a beautiful omlette.
When I saw you painting over Jess's work I gasped. And then paused. I think we're always so precious about art but its ever-evolving and up to interpretation. Her contribution will always live on in the previous videos, and it has evolved in your hands. You so diligently discussed the composition and put careful consideration to what your contribution and changes are. Stunning work James!
Loved your approach to the painting and making it more cohesive and making it a truly collaborative painting it looks great and I love the addition of the character you did
(First: sorry, English isn't my native language) I don't understand people complaining he erased 1/3 of Jess Karps art. It was a little dove (and a half), not 1/3 of her used space. Her hands are still visible and are a prominent part of the painting. And yes, I also liked her work! No hate. The other artists didn't send a letter with explanations what and why they were painting like this. e.g. the dove that evolves into the woman... if you looked at the painting without watching her video, you wouldn't know why there is a dove... I really like his approach. The other contributions were so overflowed with details. So stressing for the eye... his contribution may look underwhelming because of that... but actually gave the piece a better balance.
@@nikkisim7288 Personally this is up to personal taste since I did think that painting was too overly complex.What’s not up to personal taste is how much space Jesse’s contribution took,the hands or the women would have already made an alright painting not dividing the bottom and blocking off the top left both at the same times would have been ideal.
i don't like the hands. those are anatomically wrong. jess isn't exactly that good when it comes to the techniques of art and makes tons of error in her drawings. the women is pretty tho.
@@nikkisim7288 if you're learning art it's easy to pick up technical errors when you see it. nothing "rude" about it. young and inexperienced often try labeling errors in their art as 'stylistic choice' which it isn't because style is sth you do deliberately not 'accidentally'.
I completely agree! Why? She took so much space on the canvas. I actually feel bad for the other artists that will have to modify/squeeze their own work in. What James did was amazing, her work is still there and the hands are very much the power of the artists imagination. The birds were just the eggs that made a beautiful omlette.
I love this guys art style and I loved hearing him and the other guy chatting in the background it brings a smile to my face it kinda reminds me of how bob Ross would talk to the camera
Such a lovely video, James! It was great to see the collab process and how your production style for your videos has become so creative over the years. Looking forward to see more like this!
I scrolled looking for Ten Hundreds comment and didn’t find it. The other videos have a comment by him at the top. James is a legend and has inspired many younger artist. He is an artist who knows his stuff. If you go back to the first collab you can see jazza approach it the same way, bring unity to the piece. For james to use verbiage like” fix it “and “save the painting”, doesn’t take away from the other artist but rather highlights James experience and knowledge on the fundamentals of art. Art is subjective but there is no denying the basics which are a foundation for any artist.
Aaron will paint an animal reviving the dove. I have a feeling haha. He's so great. Loving this so far. I see what people are saying about Jess's work which was beautiful but these guys are used to making art to serve an outcome and have no attachment to their work once it is done. I'm sure James has heard brutal comments about his work and seen editors just bin off his work because they didn't like it. The painting is on a journey and Jess has had a massive impact on it compositionally and it still has her wonderful touch. I like what James has done and he was daring to do it. I do think Jess should get a chance to paint the bird back in at the end. What ever happens the evolution of this piece is so captivating. I can wait to see what Aaron does. Gregg and Peter's parts are my favorites so far and Jess's video brought a tear to my eye. So special.
I think they should be bolder, so I fully support James’ intervention. (Knowing him from the videos I think he held back). It is a Collab painting, not a potpourri of different artist works. Thinking of the painting as a unified malleable work would make it stronger. I already think it is already much stronger than last year’s. Treating one’s work as precious stifles creativity.
It’s just different from what people expect, that’s why there’s so much flak about it. Previous collabs (art youtuber collabs) were made like collages, artists just painting over a small portion then passing on to the next. They only minded their small area of canvas real estate, and not the painting as a whole. James Gurney is the only one who thought of making the painting a unified malleable work. He grounded everyone’s works and made the overall painting much better. He also did not follow suit of the pattern of trying to outshine the other artists. James Gurney is one of the few living legends of art in the world and he is the most established of all the artists in this collab so far. His skills can outshine anyone, even Greg Simkins. Yet he did not choose that path, and chose a simpler painting that can balance the crazy. I guess it’s because he’s at the level where he doesn’t need to prove anything.
@@ArtelisStudio and he made a much more educational video while doing that. Even if the interview was at times a bit too slow paced and the dall-e section could have been snappier, I was engaged the whole time, as he was speaking on broader themes. Even his choice of iconography came from a considerate attempt to ground the piece to an established historical art movement: pop art. I think those who took offense should try to see it through this perspective. And I also hope Jess didn’t feel personally slighted.
@@suburbanhomestead I totally agree. Its supposed to be a collaboration not everyone just paint a character. I do wonder why the other artist haven't commented on the video 😕
@@whitney3258 I know the silence is odd. Even a diplomatic comment would be better, especially from Ten hundred who should act as moderator and clarify the rules and purpose of the endeavor. ( at least last time I checked he had not. I haven’t combed through it since.)
This is hilarious. At 14:36 he says "I don't want to tell you what to do" but then at 15:04 he really gets going and describes a sort of apocalyptic vision.
I really like the video and your process. You really did take your time analyzing the piece before contributing to it. Regarding the controversy, the rules allow painting over other artists' work, so I see no issues there. The big problem with such a project is the lack of an overarching vision for the piece. This was the case for the previous collab and for the smaller creator collab as well. Everyone seems to just be adding their characters to the middle of the piece, without even considering the edges of the painting, which become a real issue for the artists contributing later in the process. At best this kind of approach will look like a poster full of stickers or an over-crowded collage. Once every space is filled it is hard to even consider any composition at all, so the fact that James was the first one to even attempt to tackle the issue and look at it as a whole is admirable. Whether he succeeded or not is a matter of personal taste, but in reality, if previous artists even considered the composition of the piece, space for eyes to rest, etc. there would be no need for intervention. And even if James was not the one to do it, someone at a later stage would have to. People get very hung up on each artist's reasoning and explanation for the meaning of what they contribute to this piece, but in my opinion, once it is there, all the reasoning is irrelevant. Keep in mind, some of the grand visions and stories are just for the video to make it more engaging. Many of the visions or ideas are not that original or appealing, to begin with. What matters, In the end, is the sum total of the piece and the way it works as a whole, not individual ideas. If an element is special to an artist but does not work with other elements, then it is fine to change it, even get rid of it. That is the nature of true art collaboration. Not every contribution will work with others. The overall art is more important than individual ideas. If the individual idea is so important to an artist, they can make a separate piece on their own and go to town with it without any restrictions. Just because some artists' fans will be angry about painting over this artist's work does not mean it should not be painted over for the greater good of the whole piece. In my opinion, good art is not about pleasing the audience, or pleasing all artists involved for that matter. Artists are in service of art, and if their contribution diminishes it, then they should be at peace with what has to be done to improve it, even if it means changing/erasing their contribution. It is harsh, but it is the truth if you are aiming at greatness. Plus, why would it be OK for the artists who contribute at the beginning of the process to take up all the "attractive" space in the middle of the painting, leaving the later ones with "scraps" at the edges? Why can't the later artists paint over other ones if they feel like it? The artists at the beginning tend to do larger pieces with more elements in the middle, and some people expect that the later artists just go with it and squeeze something in the space that was left for them. Why would the later artists be selfless, when the beginning ones were selfish? I think it is OK to paint over other artists if your idea improves the painting as a whole instead of just playing the game of "filling the gaps". As a personal opinion, I did not like the hands from the beginning. They took up A LOT of space, and they introduced many of the compositional problems in the entire piece. They really centralized the overall composition, which made it boring. They also forced symmetry on the overall composition, which made it even more boring. Since the hands took up most of the bottom of the painting, it caused division and fragmentation of available painting space for future artists. They literally split the painting in half at the point they were introduced, making the job of later artists much harder. I do have a problem with most artists adding characters to the piece as if it was the only way to go. No abstract art, landscape elements, plants, buildings, abstraction... I believe that Doke added graffiti in the first collab, which was refreshing, but really not much beyond that. Jess added the hands in the second collab, which could be a nice idea if executed differently and more interestingly, but she also added a character. In general, I feel that these collabs are too character based. It would be more interesting if someone for instance introduced linework to an element and allowed a later artist to color it in their style etc. That sounds much more like a collab to me, rather than just putting a collection of various artists' work on one panel. To sum it up, I think the idea of the collab is nice, but by the way, it works, it is almost impossible to have a nice painting in the end. It inevitably ends up like a tacky patchwork that is all over the place thematically and compositionally, in my opinion. The end result is almost certainly doomed to be less than the sum of its parts, unfortunately. I appreciate that James did try to address the issue in some way, regardless if people liked it or not. He saw an issue with the painting, he consulted it with other artists, and he came up with a solution, which I personally liked. Painting in most cases is problem solving, and getting upset or emotional about it does not contribute to solving these problems.
Dare I say, I love this format the most from all the collaborators of this artpiece; especially when he was bouncing off ideas with other artists in a dialogue form. It felt like I was watching an art documentary. I loved all the other artists and watch them all the time, but sometimes the editing/storytelling gets too dramatic and over-the-top. I love that this is just super chill, barely any effects, and showcases of James's creative process in a straightforward manner.
I was a little thrown off as well by what he did since Jess work was really beautiful but after hearing what the lady said about the eyes resting and looking at the piece as a whole, its turned out beautifully! It actually looks like the hands are glowing more and your eyes tend to rest in the center and the work he did in itself is awesome and works well with everything! Im excited to see the next contribution, thanks ten hundred for bringing this little adventure together. ✌
Yes I agree. I actually keep looking back and forth between the before and after images, and now that you can see the thumbs, it’s much better. He has created transparent smoke rather than opaque swirls of colour. It’s unfortunate that the birds had to be sacrificed, but it absolutely looks better now.
This video should be part of art appreciation and history in high schools, art schools and universities around the world… I am loving the combination of styles, arts and generations of artists in this years collab!
I like the challenge that you all have to accomplish of adding to the piece your own bit and changing the overall look to go together. I think it’s fun to watch, but I’d be so nervous about messing it up! As for AI “art” uh no, not a fan. Without the human element AI art could not exist. All of its elements are stolen from others’ work. Scouring archives and the internet for images taken or created by humans to combine together is delving too far into copyright and trademark infringement, and taking away the actual artist’s rights. It could also find personal photos not intended for public use, it already snatches images from actors and models. I agree with your concerns of it hindering the artist’s imagination to come up with these things on their own as well as the freaky stuff it could generate. The latter could be fixed somewhat, if the programmers compensate for certain phrases or to not make explicit content. At least with Photoshop the person chooses elements and has to have some skills and do some work to accomplish the finished piece. AI “art” that generates like this is the ultimate cheat on so many levels. Like NFTs I’ll be glad when the trend fades into virtual obscurity. I’m a fan of your art, not the AI stuff.
Mel’s collection is beyond awesome! I found about his collection some seven years before, and I am in awe. I would so much love to visit him, but I live on the other side of the globe. I watched all videos that I could come across about his collection, and his interviews. Thank you for this video. And you are an amazing artist, inventor, creator, and inspiration with every your video. And the two of you in the same video. Absolutely fantastic!
The comments here are a little bit intense. I think you did a great job and I guess you're right, it is busy - but I also like that, for some reason. Something about having points of interest all over the painting appeals to me - I feel like if I owned it, I would see something different every time I looked at it. I enjoyed all the information you shared in this video. Thank you!
I think this video brought different generations of artists together to create a cohesive end product that is going to a good cause. Each artist has taken risks, some that are more liked or less liked than others. People connect with the artist with the story or vision behind the art. Started with ten hundred who had a character created to go on an amazing journey. He admitted that he could have made the character a little smaller, which most of us probably agree. Then Kiptoe told a unique story in his amazing video that drew us in and I don’t know about you really made me smile. I almost like his video more than the art. Anyway he introduced another style of art that connected to the first. The Jess came in and stayed true to herself and tried to figure out how to incorporate her style with two very different styles. Hers tells a spiritual story, but somehow embraces the character before hers. In some ways I felt she took way too much space but what she created worked and was beautiful. This video was a merging of two different generations. This artist took us on an art journey back through time and worked to make the old new again. While I had a little anxiety watching him paint over the hands, which I loved, it does make sense why he did that. He took the mission of creating a cohesive piece to mean exactly what it says and worked to restore cohesion between all the artists and their unique styles. The next artist will take us on a new journey. He may have a vision that truly speaks to us, or he may create something that stirs up emotions in you. That’s the beauty of art. It’s to evoke emotion, it’s subjective, it’s interactive, and it tells a story. All I know for sure is this piece is hands down better than the challenge happening simultaneously with this one. This one just seems to work, where the other one just isn’t making sense. Anyway..great job on your contribution. It was a blessing learning about a new artist. And I subscribed!
you make some interesting points, but I think the goal of this collab is different from what you'hv tried to achieve. for me, this canvas is a celebration of art and artists. it's supposed to be complex, it's suppoesd to be detailed. I don't need a corrner for my eyes to rest, because every corrner is a like a differnent peace of art, created by differernt artist. for me, I expect every piece of this cabvas to be amazing, I want it to be endless space of art and creativity. this is perhaps the most ambitios collab ever made' for me, a corrner for my eyes to rest on this piece, is an unfullfiled potential.
@@ivanmatveyev13 I totally agree. Also each artist should express themselves in their own way, no matter how complex it is. Art doesn’t need to be complex or simple, as it express different things to different people
If it's a celebration of art, then isn't it important to uphold the basic principles of art? Things like composition and value should apply to every painting.
@@waitingforpapatobless7540 That’s true. But I do find it disrespectful to replace another artist’s hours of detailed work with some simple smearing of colours.
His covering up of Jess’ deep emotional communication was disappointing and sad. This was a major miss in my opinion. His character feels irrelevant and distanced from the others story as well. Not a fan at all. I wish he would’ve attempted the magician.
@@Moksi_Monkey I do understand what you're saying, but from everyone from the beginning was told they could add and paint over other's work. Jess made the feminine face at the top but she chose to take a whole lotta extra real estate with those hands at the bottom.
Thank you for going back into some of the other parts of the painting to fix it! Sometimes all the artist are too afraid to step on each others toes and it makes for a terrible overall painting. Awesome stuff James!!
Can't WAIT to see what Aaron does with this!! So happy to hear he'll join this collab!! I'm a little sad he painted over the dove flying off the hands, but otherwise great work. It's cool to see a mash up with young artist & old school type artistry
I’ve taken some time to think and digest this video, because something felt off, but now I’ve got my thoughts in order. I believe some folks in the comments may not understand what the purpose to a true artistic collaboration is. It can be jarring for those not within *both* the traditional art communities and TH-cam art communities if they’ve never experienced the other side; I think this was a masterful attempt to bring both sides of the larger art world together. Dali and friends painted over each other’s works all the time when collaborating, because it’s not about ego, it’s about telling a cohesive story. Gurney’s dive in to the past, as well as the future of art; his taking a risk with a style he not exactly experience with or known for; seeking to help tie the composition together as a whole piece; even getting a critic to give feedback on the piece at it’s current stage… it’s all a very nuanced and beautiful part of the evolution of this piece to help make it a cohesive unit. Even last season the people near the end worked to tie the piece together in to one cohesive piece. I realize many following along are perhaps more active within the “new age” style of art communities, where content creation is king, but you’ve got to respect the fact that these people are essentially masters of their craft and the predecessors of those you follow now, including those who’ve previously worked on this piece. There is no shade, there is no drama to be had; you absolutely do not need to defend any artists who’s work gets covered over, either, as they all agreed to this before hand, and as budding masters of their craft, I’m certain they understand the need to tie it together, and perhaps if they were the one at this stage they’d have been the one doing it. Everyone will see in the end how beautiful and rich this turns out to be, of this I am certain. I think a lot of thought and intention was put in to this piece, far more than many may realize or care about, but it’s important and deserving of respect and even admiration none-the-less. -- Original comment: This hasn’t gone at all the way I expected with any of the artists and I am LOVING IT!! ❤️ I love that art is every evolving and collaborations like this are a living example of art in evolution. I’m glad you got to enjoy trying something new Mr Gurney; heck, last season one of the artists (Jazza) tried an entirely new medium for the first time on his part of the collaboration. I’m excited to see how this piece continues to flow and change, and I am way excited to see it going to an animator and artist whose work I’ve seen since childhood! I bet Tenhun didn’t expect his idea to take such a neat trip!
just to say that i feel like you didn't disrespect the other artists on the contrary, it feel like you took time to think what would make the whole picture works and so make their contribution shine. And for alle the video i did not comment: as always great content ^^
Oh my gosh, this is what I needed! Really enjoyed your addition to this collaboration, also loved your insight and your thoughts on collaboration with other artists generally and AI in particular. It makes me think of your old traveling artist tapes that you’ve featured on this channel before. I appreciate how you are always finding new ways to create art in community with other people- it’s not often mentioned as part of the standard artists tool kit, but community is an invaluable thing.
wow, there was so much in this video. as someone who also got access in the last month to DALL-E 2, I really appreciated your insight and thoughts on the tool in terms of creativity, imagination, and the like. in terms of collaboration with the AI behind the tool, I wonder if DALL-E 2 is collecting information from all of our inputs to influence future pictures and artwork? for example, maybe it will take images that get downloaded as "successful" and then have that connect to the words used in the picture. just a thought - thanks for another great video!
There's been a lot of discussion about my contribution to this collab, and discussion or disagreement is fine. In fact it drives views and engagement, which is why it triggered in a lot of the anonymous 'bot accounts to chime in.
But to those who sincerely feel I disrespected Jess's work or was out of line with what I added, I'm afraid you're mistaken. I loved the motif of the upstretched hands, which is why I tried to spotlight and accentuate them. I wrote to Jess asking if she was OK with what I did, and she replied that she is not at all offended. On the contrary she said she's excited the direction it's taking. And TenHundred's original marching orders in his cover letter were to feel free to overpaint, modify, or change it, and that he wished for a "cohesive composition."
It's just paint, folks-or really just pixels-a sketching game, a chance to learn, a bit of visual fun, and we're all friends....in fact I sent Jess the Wanted Poster and she's got it framed.
Any artist that truly wants to grow would be HONORED to have a legend modify/enhance their work.
I totally agree that there's a lack of cohesion in this project. There was little of that in the previous collab, nor is there in the other currently running project. Everybody seems to want to do their own signature thing and not really consider the whole of the canvas. But onwards to see what Aaron decided to do with this painting, I can't wait.
@@fussynotions I don’t for a second think James was referring to negative comments about his work. He is referring to the ‘hey, I contacted *insert fake investment banker* and made $1 million in my first month’ type of comments. I’m sure they are being deleted as soon as they are spotted.
@@jillianogrady4621 Perhaps he was, I edited my post since I didn't feel like being that negative at the start of the weekend :)
See, I knew it. Jess is too much of a good artist to know the value of an exercise like this, and understands how paintings have lives of their own.
A JOURNEY WITH GURNEY!!! Thank you James! I’d like to clear some clouds and bring some sunshine. Let’s not forget: This indeed is a collaboration and a beautiful opportunity to connect with one another, contribute together as artists, and share cool creative insights with everyone around the world! And most importantly have fun creating :) Art allows us to see thousands of new perspectives so let’s all support one another in a positive light!
We are all here just doing our best with pure intentions.
It’s exciting seeing this painting evolve as its passed to each incredible artist and even more exciting that it will help many more through charity in the end.
Thank you all for your support on the collab Ten Hundred started that brings so much joy to us all!
Much love always
Jess: As an older female and fan, my (unsolicited) life advice is to always stand up for your work and for yourself. There's a horrible dynamic at play here...you're being taken advantage of and it's disheartening to watch.
Sometimes you have to say NO jess. Not everything turns out to be good when you say Yes. .
@@jennifercase3666 Don't inject feminist bs into this. How insulting of you.
@@jennifercase3666 as a younger human being and an admirer of art….. I think she’s entitled to her her opinion and she has given her opinion in very clear words….she’s a grown woman please don’t make it about gender…..it’s for charity….artists from different background and different art styles are collaborating….they are going to paint over others….and do what they think would be best to make this better
Hope you have a great day😇
@@jennifercase3666 it’s incredibly common within traditional art collaborations for the artists to cover each other’s work; not doing so is really a very new concept, and often made in poor choice. When writing books together with another writer, you wouldn’t leave every part each person wrote in, that’d be a horrible, confusing, and difficult to read book. Whole sections end up on the editing room floor.
We’re being granted an incredibly rare and unique perspective in to the actual journey, process, and evolution of an art piece and how it works, including parts we may not like that we’d normally never see. You should consider watching with joy and excitement to see how it turns out, instead of demanding stagnation. And if all else fails, remember: if you were never witness to the process and only got to see the end result, you’d most likely adore the final piece. So please, kindly stop being offended on another’s behalf, especially after that person has clearly stated they are not offended. If they are but say they aren’t, that’s for them to resolve still, and it’s not your business. Take Jess at face value, and listen to HER; telling her how to feel is as bad as that ideology which you seek to oppress.
What a journey this painting has been on! Interesting to see your thought process behind what you ended up creating. I'm honored to share a project with some of my art heroes :)
Kiptoooeeeeeee
I love that you had these conversations in the video, talking to other creatives is so important. The piece came out amazing 🤩
Woah!! I just watched your addition to the other canvas. Love how it came out!!
I honestly didn’t even realize how useful talking to another creative could be.
And currieGOAT, the piece you did I thought was extremely cool and clever adding the panels and expanding it.
Great work 👌🏼
It’s amusing to me because my partner and I saw him mention extending the piece and we both went “LIKE DENZEL!” 😂😂😂 Wild that you both had the same idea without even knowing it! 💖
I got chills when James was brain storming the possibility of adding canvas area to the price, because I had just watched your video. I thought the triptych expansion was an excellent idea.
it is always so interesting to see how much effort and knowledge you put in your videos. And they are so chilled - thanks a lot James! I really love your thoughts and descriptions!
Yes. His video was by far the most educational.
Indeed!
This video is better than college education
Lol I honestly got a little nervous when they were critiquing the piece. Felt just like I was back in grad school lol
That’s one way of putting it 🙈 sadly can’t say I agree
TRUUEEE
So true
Gurney is a great painter and educator. I've learned so much watching his videos over the past few years. And I've got a couple books on painting by him too.
Absolutely loved the video @jamesgurney ! Thank you so much for your contribution and the educational info! All the best to you and Jeanette!
Honored to share the canvas with you and the rest of the Gang.
You guys killed it! Amazing work. Super inspiring to see the different styles combined like this.
You are both legends and my top favorite living artists. I was super excited for this!
Not gonna lie, I was expecting dinosaurs from James Gurney. Because everyone is putting their “signature” characters in there. But Reddy Kilowatt is a much better choice, more fitting of the pop art theme, but from the 60s which is still a very James Gurney thing to do.
You are right about balancing the colors. I also expected you would do that to balance the overall colors and complement Greg Simkins’s grayed out rabbit. Your color choices made the whole painting a lot better.
The caliber of artists on this collab is already over the moon, but you blew my mind on the next collaborator! Another living legend! I’m expecting lion king or simba, but I’m sure whatever the result would be mind blowing too.
Anyone else feel like they were watching a soothing nostalgic PBS educational art show 💆🏽♂️💆🏽♂️💆🏽♂️ 10/10 would watch again 👍🏽
This describes the video so well 😂
Past forms to present art forms which he stated was a collaboration with artificial intelligence. And he only had over thirty minutes with the story. Brava James!
I definitely felt the nostalgia
I grew up on that stuff 😂
Totally gave me that vibe. So chill 😊
! The previous artist explained his next pick so beautifully, so I clicked immediately to see his vision. I love this collab🥲
It's disappointing that thoughtful art critique is now seen as "throwing shade or being disrespectful " critiquing art is what people have done since art has been created. I never once in the entire video felt that anything said was rude or discounted the talent of the other artists involved. It was simply a critique and opinion of the piece itself which is meant to be multiple artists adding and overlapping each other.
In addition, I think season three would be cool to have an overarching theme to assist in the composition so it would have a cohesive flow. Things to think about for the future. 🤔
I can critique someone’s work, sure, specially a man with his recognition and trajectory, but critiquing and acting on said critique by obliterating part of another artist’s work are different things. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ every artist in all 3 collabs have understood that “overlapping” over other artists’ work is so as to give your own art an “in”, not to “fix” someone else’s work, it’s a collab among artists, not artists and their editor. It was an act of hubris. He knew he had to leave space for two more artists and took over the entire left side (I do like his character; just way too big) and decided to erase another artist’s work due to his ego regarding what he thinks is rightful composition given his own (and his wife’s?) conception, and screw anyone else’s.
@Pumpkin Queen but her art is not obliterated. The hands are still extremely prominent, literally framing the other characters and the woman in the upper corner is also drawing your eye. The best part of art is discussing it together and opening your mind to other opinions. I hear your opinion and at first, watching the video I was a bit taken aback too when he added to it there. So I went back and looked at the piece before and after each artist to really look at the changes made. I think that when you look at them back to back Jess's art is still a large portion of the overall piece. I hope you can also hear my thoughts and have an open mind. I think this piece is going to be a very interesting mix of new and old styles when it's all said and done. Who knows how the next person will overlap or change it. 🙂
@@Ironchick22 they’ll have to crazy overlap since there’s no space left. The issue is if anyone watched Jess’s video it was quite the profound process, everything was thought out (whether one likes it or not is another story; I personally like Tenhun and Kiptoe’s additions the best for my liking, not so much hers, but I wholeheartedly appreciate her work). But knowing the artist’s process I would think it deserved more respect. I’m not an artist so perhaps I’m spewing nonsense, I’m an attorney, and if I was looking over a colleague’s brief and saw the thought and research put into it, even if I thought it was wrong, I wouldn’t just delete pages, I’d critique it, for sure, but I wouldn’t just hit delete🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@Pumpkin Queen I love hearing more of your opinion!! I think it's a fair critique. 🤔 I think Jess's video was lovely and her process was wonderful to watch. In the overall spirit of the collab, even in season one, artists were constantly making changes to others' additions. Each artist also used a different amount of space. The best part is that it's all for a good cause and meant to be constantly altered and changed and open our view to artists that maybe people didn't follow or know about.
I am sure the artists involved will make suggestions for the next season and also read comments from videos and possibly also take some of these concerns/critiques and alter the rules.
Thank you for having this chat, so much can be lost with just text and no body language or vocal inflection. People can immediately jump to anger and I truly do love hearing and understanding others' observations. We all grow each time. 🙂
It's just TH-cam comments, in art school critiques are still going strong.
Great Job James! Looking forward to getting this up on an easel soon!
I’m genuinely excited to see the direction you take this in! I originally went to school for animation, and it’s because of the work you did. Granted, life took different turns for me, but my love for your work has never waned. Of course finding out you had a TH-cam channel is like discovering gold!! I hope you have fun with this piece and this experience. 💖👻🖤
Just now seeing this, and I'm so looking forward to seeing what you bring to this painting!
I am subscribed to you and I love your work! You are so inspiring to me! I can’t wait to see what you create! 😃😃🤩
I love how this project is connecting many different style and artists across the world. Looking forward to your addition!
Getting excited 😄
Seeing you two spitballing ideas and narratives off eachother was so interesting. I really like all the other artists but I agree, with too much free reign it does risk just becoming a noisy collage of detailed characters with little cohesion. It was fascinating seeing you bring a completely new and fresh strategy when adding to the piece. Having watched videos from all the other participants I honestly think they will value your ideas and artistic input.
Some of the most famous art pieces had the most controversy!
1. Ten Hundred CLEARLY STATED that people are allowed to modify this painting as they wish. So that overall clears everything that happened in this video. Like it or not.
2. Jess commented and expressed her calmness about it all. She’s a grown woman who doesn’t need you guys to defend her. And even if she didn’t like it, like stated before Ten Hundred approved modifications.
This was a great video explaining on how the direction of this painting could go to help enhance it by having balance. I think every artist took on this project knowing the assignment. And just because the other artist decided to not modify anybody else’s piece it doesn’t mean that he was wrong in doing so. Because like I stated earlier Ten Hundred HIMSELF gave free reign for artist to do whatever they wanted.
I’m glad that you broke the mold, this art piece was never meant to be kept within guidelines of a box, it was supposed to be a collaboration of free expression. and I’m excited to see the direction that this art piece can go now that the walls have been taken down!!
Agreed, 💯👌🏾
And yet Ten Hun is very conspiciously missing from this discourse lmao. I think that explains his opinions very clearly dont you?
I don't have a problem with the modifications, and for the most part, I love what James did. I will say that while the rest of the painting is complex, and I loved that his upper left art was a nice counter balance, I feel that he went to far with the simple 'smoke' in the hands; to me, it felt disconnected. I think some modification to the complex fire in the hands with light smoke would have been great to calm it down and then carry that up with the highlight he mentioned near 10 hun's piece. But, I personally thought it was too simple in that area now, and the juxtaposition didn't give my eyes a place to rest, but instead was almost more jarring in the abrupt change.
People here in the comments are screaming no sense about the painting. The work of Jess is still visible, the painting now has more cohesive sense..and James are literally given us a master class of different artis concepts, culture etc ... for God sake, have patience, learn through the process, open your mind to the information .
I don't think I'm the only one who hoped you would add a dinosaur or two, but this is so interesting! You're educating us about both the past and the future of art.
I was hoping for a dinosaur too. It ended up interesting though.
@@paputz72 I respectfully disagree about Jess's Karp artwork
Everyone painted over each other’s painting, just watch their videos on it. Overpainting is part of the spirit of this collab. It does not detract, but rather adds to the painting’s overall story.
Ten hundred (the first artist) himself said that he’d wish the next artists would paint over his work because he accidentally painted his astronaut fox bigger than he intended and he took too much space.
Kiptoe helped set the tone of painting over others, and Jess Karp followed suit, so did Greg Simkins. Greg even painted over ten hundred’s bottle and filled it with smoke. Everyone painted over everyone.
Each artist’s work has their own story, like Jess Karp’s giant hands with fluttering birds evolving into the mystical woman. Although succeeding artists painted over previous artists, they did not take away from the story but rather changed and added onto it. That’s how collaborations are supposed to be.
The original story, before overpainting, is not wasted. This is an art youtuber collab and each youtuber’s video on their work is an integral part of this painting. Their original story is preserved there in their videos, and the updated collab story is shown on the current painting’s facade.
@@paputz72 I think it turned out fantastic.
@@paputz72 I don’t think he destroyed Jessica’s art at all. And in all fairness, she worked in two areas so I feel that what he did was completely reasonable. He didn’t alter her main focus piece. I was nervous when he wanted to add ring light to tenhundreds character though being a central focus. I love his dinosaurs but I was not impressed with this piece. I wonder how much of this was to honor his collector friend or something versus creating his own work. Also I could have done without the consistent complaining about the piece being so busy. It’s a collab for charity showcasing different artists and was never intended to be a perfect masterpiece.
I love how the filming/editing is like an old educational tv show, its so nostalgic lol... i also like how the critique was honest, the painting was feeling one dimensional and too busy... but you added so much depth
Instead of someone else’s character, I’d have liked to see James’ own original character, something unique to him. I learned a lot by watching and listening to James and the other artist.
I think his idea is he wanted to pay homage to the early beginnings of cartoons and cartoon characters, also doing something that is more simple and less illustrative/more painterly really adds to the composition of this painting. These youtuber artist painting collabs honestly all look pretty bad, I think James took the right approach in thinking of the composition before his own wants.
This is my favorite segment of the collab so far. I loved that you guys actually talked about how the whole thing was becoming too jumbled and tried to help it be cohesive. I also LOVE your use of props and editing in art during the video. Very excited to subscribe.
Yes! I feel that all the other artists worked from a self serving place, just adding things they wanted to paint. That is in no way a bad thing, as i think at first we just needed subject on canvas. Now that its half way through its a good time to step back and consider the piece as a whole. Hes analysing the piece through a technical lense and trying to solve the issues it presents. That's exciting to me as an artist, and should be celebrated because essentially that's what artists do, discover and solve technical problems, or conceptual ideas, or nagging questions, or visual interpretations.
I love that you made it a story about collaboration and design and how it has evolved over the decades. You managed to show us how you interacted with the painting itself with a very old school method of tracing paper and real live smoke bombs. Many today would have just used layers in Photoshop. Then you contrasted talking with real humans vs. Interacting with AI. All with the basic premise of passing art back and forth between contemporary artists and using references from historical artists.
To think you also edited into a really engaging TH-cam video with distribution blows my mind. This has so many layers of genius. You are truly creative James Gurney!
Now this is how art should be discussed! They are spot on in seeing that it's cool what the other artists have done, yet it's so complicated and leaves nowhere for the eyes to rest. It was refreshing to see talent talk through the process of how they were going to make the painting better before they worried about what they were going to put on--they actually saw the painting as a whole and figured out what would work best. Excellent work James and I can't wait to see the finished piece!
This 👆🏻
I commented on Jess video that the amount of space she used, as amazing as her art is, would be an issue later on. This is how collabs work!
I love her art!! I was very surprised how much space she took up and felt bad for the future collaborators with less space . What she created was gorgeous….I personally wouldn’t take up so much space . She is bold :)
@@artphotography9158 "bold", was very polite, imo she's got a hugely overblown ego.
@@beckbabej The guy who painted the dragon painted it on both sides of the original figure
Wow, I didn’t know what to expect from this video but Im impressed at how much thought you put into this, your contribution didn’t only added one image to the piece, you stepped back and looked at the entire composition, and even better. You brought expert eyes into mix. Loved your video!
New sub! It's a collad, not a collage. To anybody saying he took too much space... take a good look. Jess has the bigger piece. Add her two pieces up and it's 1/4 of the canvas. Yes her story was erased, but the color cohesion is better now.
He may sound arrogant throughout the vid, but we as artists know that we are learning every single day. And he and his guest made some good critiques.
Still in love with it.
I thought the same thing, noone complained that she took 2 separate big spaces or that the rabbit covered some birds too, they just complained here because he drew more attention to it and they dont know how to differentiate between critique and insults
Honestly I felt ten hundred made his space character too big, then Jess added too much with the hands, and female character, and the person who painted the clock made it too big. These two gentlemen were right in saying the piece was too busy and needed to be pulled back a bit to make it a more cohesive art piece.
@@BuklauTheLegend having this collab as well as the past one and being able to compare it to the "smallest art collab" just show us that the subscriber count doesn't matter in a collaboration, most of the big channels are making the same mistakes as the smaller ones by not understanding the difference between a collaboration and a collage, and when someone with more experience in that field comes and do what it is expected and literally stated in the rules everyone goes against him because he did something different.
Almost every artist so far wanted their piece to stand out from the others and include a very different style (including the one who did the frame last season)
@@Pacha_RM I absolutely loved the frame from last season.
Dear Mr. James Gurney, I think your addition to this collaboration was amazing. Not only in the painting process but the filming as well. I appreciate you giving us the experience of watching artists give feedback and discuss how to take a piece to the next level all while being passionate and excited about the project. This experience is priceless for us self taught artists & although others may feel negatively about it, there must be people like me that wish to have access to that sort of content. Such helpful comments to keep in mind for my personal projects.
I love that you adressed how busy this painting is! It's so much it makes me dizzy. I feel like all the artist competed and not collaborated with each other.
Well done with great insight from a Master. This painting is a story brought forth by all the artist that have and will paint it. A collaboration is just that. Play off off one another’s colors, characters, style and blend, distort, add to or take away. You did amazing and I am excited to see what Aaron does to this.
What I liked about your video is that weren't afraid to make a reasonable criticism of the painting, I liked that you don't need to do something disproportionate with a lot of unnecessary details, I think that when talking about a collaboration everyone can be willing to have their work intervened for better coercion, especially if you decided to take up that much space in the first place like Jess
I look at the comments on this video and the comments on the video of the artist who made the bunny and realize that the person who made the following comment on Jess's video was right "Jess did a good job but took up a lot of space from others artists, and now anyone who paints over their painting will be criticized like a disrespectful person”
It's for charity, why are we critiquing at all? For his own ego, huh.
@@meeks3294 how come taking two huge spaces in a collaboration piece is okay but when one of the chosen artist (and a master for his own right) balancing the piece (her work is still prominent) is ego?
The whole idea here is to create a tapestry of multiple artists. Each artist adds a warp and a weave to the design. No rules; each artist puts down what they feel they want and the tapestry goes on. James added his touch and whether folks like it or not, it was HIS touch. The tapestry takes another turn. Artists playing off what the previous one did has always been a thing. Look at Simpkins completely painting over Jess' bird. It's ALL OK and it adds to the whole.
I can't wait to see Aaron Blaise add to this tapestry of art. The variance in style from the traditional to the urban street is so amazing. Good job everyone!
Art is subjective and fluid, this piece is certainly dynamic. It's extremely busy and chaotic, and absolutely representative of the different artists and the styles they applied. Change to the overall artwork is the nature of the beast when you have so many hands and creative minds involved.
I love each contribution. And while I might not have been comfortable with the choice made to paint over such a large portion of someone else's work, (the effect and dove from the hands that Jess incorporated) it's not up to me or anyone else. Just the artists involved. Because at the end of the day, it's not commissioned, there are no overarching guidelines, and the artists were given pretty much free reign.
It's also not our place to tell someone what they should have added.
Open thoughtful criticism is excellent. It's part of art. Talking crap is not.
Honestly I was kind of sad when he painted over Jess’ work, I loved how she incorporated the places with the dragon’s tail, and how her creativity through her hands was flowing out to the other artists work. Not gonna lie it now feels unfinished. There was so much depth beforehand that when you look at the huge flat space in the middle with no shading, it’s seems a bit messy. It also doesn’t blend in with the dragon’s tail anymore so now it feels like it’s cut off and competing against instead of flowing with. I know ten hundred said he could overlap his artwork with others, but the recreation of the flame wasn’t part of his artwork, it was Jess’. And honestly that flame was one of the main things that held the flow of the painting together. But now it doesn’t. I wish he just left it be, but I can’t change anything. All I can say is that Jess’ artwork was my absolute favorite on this season and now a third of that artwork is gone.
Great observation on the content limitations of Dall-E. We pretend that the algorithm is pure, unbiased image generation. But there is bias deliberately program into the tool by the creators. We need to accept that art contains themes of darker concepts just as much (if not more) than lighter ones. And we are constantly changing the definition of what is acceptable. Nudity has been a prime feature of western art. The machine won’t allow someone to imagine that. I think this will create a radicalized movement of artists who will paint and create themes that a machine cannot capture because it lies outside of their logic parameters much as the impressionists and related art schools were a rebellion against the strictures of the academic style. Overall, I think it is a great tool to help whet someone’s speculation without the time cost of generating these images by hand. They remind me of an image from a dream quite realistic but SOMETHING doesn’t match reality.
Thank you, that was a very perceptive comment.
This is the artist who took the most risk and probably had the most fun ! This is sooo incredible
I was pleased that the painting finally got into the hands of older experienced masters who understood the essence of joint work and smoothed the overall composition. Unlike the previous ones, who presented beautiful works, but rather focused on detail and seemed to be competing with each other. And painting the thumb to the hands added depth to the image.
Thats a pretty faulty understanding of what this type of collab is, its for each artists to fill a space with whatever they want to. They literally pick artists one after the other, anyone who got picked by the end could've said "you know imma unite all this stuff cause i feel like it" furthermore painting over the other artist's work doesnt only miss the mark of what this is about but also highly disrespectful. Its arrogant to see a piece of work that is a literal jigsaw puzzle with each piece giving the spotlight to each of the artist's style of work, as a thing you should fix when it isnt about thinking you know better, this is like a birthday party and one kids wants cake before birthday boy/girl cause "its a celebration for everyone" thinking you can make something better was a thing any other of the artists could of come up with, but they didnt due to sheer *respect* for the collaboration' *point* which is clear once you think they would of gathered to design a whole piece if they actually wanted to.
@@bozmundarts2614 The end goal of this collab is to have one painting is it not? The rules state that Painting over another artist's work is allowed. Yes, the last person has the final say as to what to paint over and what to leave, and they could cover the painting if they wanted to (which would be kinda funny, and would cause a huge drama). All jokes aside, someone would have to address the problems with the painting eventually. The later that would happen, the harder it would be to fix. Among all the artists participating in any of the collaborations, James is actually the most knowledgeable, skilled, and accomplished. He's a pro illustrator - composition, and readability are very important for him, so he tried to address it. Sacrificing a few details to improve readability is not that big of a deal. And yes, I think that an artist's contribution to the piece can be "fixed" or even erased from the painting if it benefits the end result. That is if the goal is to have a cohesive final painting and not just a collection of unrelated doodles by art TH-camrs.
The problem is that in these collabs nobody thinks about the composition and in the end, none of them works as a painting. Everyone goes big for the center of the painting, and the in the end people are left with scraps at the edges. The end result always looks like a bad collage and not a good painting at all.
It would be nice if one artist provided linework in their style;e for another one to color it in their style, and another one to provide background in their style, etc... Or another process in which the work of the next artist is built on the foundation provided by the previous one, and not around it as it is at the moment.
@@bartwitiak the point is have fun, make a mess, that's what these collabs are. If you want a full composition just made by multiple people... suggest it... from the start! Plan it... from the start! Otherwise, dont call out the lack of compositional cohesion in this work when its your turn to have your fun, it makes him look like a douchebag, completely missing the point of this which is to just make every artist's thing stand out in their portion and have fun. Oh its not a amazing masterfully crafted whole piece! Dear god may some artists dare not to try and make a visually pleasing image for everyone! The point of art is to express yourself not measure a creation by rules! And god forbid if some artists just wanna mess around where each puts their own thing, anything they want, just have at it. You know, have fun.
Is that a rule too to make a "painting" of "good taste" forever and always?
@@bozmundarts2614 well, Ten Hun stated in his original video that he wants a cohesive piece of art in the end and that's one of the reasons he allowed people to paint over each other. There is a double standard in your view on what Gurney did. Did he not have fun? Did he not make a mess? I'm pretty sure he did both. Why should the measure of what he did and whether it's a success be your definition of art and fun? Perhaps he should follow his own sense of what art and fun is and act on it, which I think he did. Why are others allowed to do whatever they want, and he is not? Either there are no rules, and therefore he can do whatever he wants, or there are rules, just the ones you made up for yourself. I other words, fun is allowed as long it's your kind of fun within your understanding of what art should be, otherwise it's a failure.
I can't say I'm as excited about this addition as the others, sadly. I really liked how the previous artists (mostly) made up characters for this, as for me it represent how the creative flow allows us to come up with endless new characters or interpretations. So using an already established character didn't feel like it followed that theme in quite the same way. I do like how it's red and kind uses the same common element from the rest, but it being almost the same shade of red as the dragon smudges out the silhouette a little at the same time. And for some reason I really don't like the power pole in the background haha. I think it might be because all the other elements are connected to or intertwined from the center of the piece, so it being grounded in a background outside of the frame feels odd to me and like it's not quite fitting perfectly with the rest of the piece. I wonder if it would have a different feel if Kilowatt was sort of floating along with the rest of these characters instead. It's a really well done part in any case, just maybe not my personal favorite
Love how honest the older man was . He said it's so confusing , besides the rabbit 😄 🤣
To be honest I don't get why everyone is complaining, when I saw that Jess claimed two separate spaces I thought it was unfair at first, but after thinking for more than 2 seconds I realized that it started to make the painting more cohesive and that the other creators would cover parts or her artwork if they needed that space.
In fact this is not the first time that her birds were covered and the last time noone complained, they only complained here because he drew more attention to it, so everyone rushed to the comments instead of realizing that her hands were highlited and her character fitted better with the composition after he was done.
I see it too - his use of colour highlights the face Jess painted and brings it out more.
I think it is funny how the most common reason was that he "ruined" her story, but she added that story without consideration for what already was in the canvas, while beautiful it didn't make sense thematically, so it doesn't diminish anything by transforming it, specially after we know he had verbal consent by her even after the definition of a collab and the rules said it was ok and expected to do so
I'm less than halfway through this video, but I love listening to masters at work talking about painting, composition, lighting and story. So unexpected, but amazing. Edit: Finished the video...it's going to Aaron Blaise! Amazing! Lions, Tigers and Bears, oh my and so much more to come ;)
Yes they really took this painting to a new level
I’m a 28 year old female draft’s person in the construction industry in NY. And like every industry there’s always a gap between how things use to be done and how they will be or are done now with all the new tools and technology that didn’t exist before. Young engineers and architects are Coming up with new concepts that are meant to improve the way it was done before, much of it works and is innovative but as a draftsperson I’ve noticed that there’s always a flaw in design/functionality of a system. The young always complicate the simple or simplify the complex to where sometimes functionality or technicality in how something is meant to work or be built is lost. every industry experiences this gap between the older generation and new and this reminded me of it. Not In a bad way but in way that made me happy. To see you have to get creative while sharing your wisdom in this craft. Even sharing what you thought about AI. The other artist were great and i love what they’ve done but it was so creative to see how your style and art was incorporated and what a nice addition it was. The effort in collaboration in ideas makes me happy. Thank you 🙏🏽
I'm not sure how I feel about Mel's comments on the other artists but I'm glad it sorta worked out in the end. It also goes to show that art is subjective and while that generation is stuck in it's ways, art evolves with time
I sort of agree, Hilma, but as they say "that's free speech, baby!" I'm glad they included that part because Mel's got something to say, should be respected and it's only words.
I LOVE that this collab has jumped generations. Everyone has something to teach, and I think this whole idea is really spectacular. We need to communicate in physical ways these days, discuss and express ourselves. I'm sad about the small bird, but hey, if Jess is okay with it, let's go! Can't wait to see the next installment!
I was engaged through the whole video 😅 a bit different to the slick videos of Tenhun and the others, but definitely not a bad thing! LOVE WHAT YOU DID! You'll definitely balanced the piece.
Hahahaha thx so much for setting the scene and not burning the collab! :D I was led to you by following it and am glad to have seen your part!!! I really like the background stories and interviews you added to your character.
omg I can't believe James Gurney and Aaron Blaise are a part of this collab, what an amazing direction this is taking
Thanks a lot James. You are one of the most inspiring artist out there. Love and I can't wait to see what Aaron does next!
James Gurney plays by his own rules 😄 I love it
The fact u stepped outside of the box is what makes me love u as an artist ❤ u were not scared to paint over or over lap the work. U went with your own style and didn’t try and mesh with what was there. This is true picasso 😮💨 NO LIMITS 🎉
I really loved what you guys said about the art, and I completely agree. Everyone tried to paint something that said who they are and forgot about thinking what is already on the canvas. Apologies for any confusion, my home language is Afrikaans.
I love how you involved Mel and Mel had so many insight and made me think more about my art.
You gained another follower. Keep up the great work.
Strange video style, the AI stuff felt out of place in the collab video, could have had its own space. I liked the idea he had for expanding the canvas and adding a wizard to the background to meet up with the hands, too bad he didn't go with that idea, it would have been great to see both paintings expand the canvas in the same week. I see what they're saying about the painting having a lot going on, I feel like it has maybe gone to too many character artists, everyone is adding a new character rather than other elements, and yet he added more characters. Also a little unsure about the smoke addition over Jess's work as I really liked the hand art originally, but it's difficult to get a good feel for the before and after from the video.
I just love the Iconic old people roasting the art 😂
I think the adjustment to Jess's hands was exactly what the painting needed. As they said, it had become too complex, and when you want to bring something together that small section between the hands was really the best opportunity. I love where its going and I cannot wait to see Aaron Blaise's contribution! so exciting!!!
there is a difference between overlapping and just covering someone's hard work for the sake of not being the center of attention. His character is an ugly little toy that has nothing to do with the story and soul of this painting so far and i truly hope whoever is next covers a chunk of it up or fixes it and adds something better to it bc it looks bad.
@@BrianaLynn7 Its ok if his art isn't to your taste. The risk of a collaboration is that you won't enjoy everyone's contribution. However most current successful artists, at some point, have admired and studied James's work for guidance. I can't express this enough, he really doesn't need to sabotage another artist to be the centre of attention. I am curious what you think the story of the painting is? no shade, genuinely curious.
@@PenImp Everyone explained their parts. I’m not an artist but I have eyes and a brain and my opinion matters just as much. Ten hundred made a cool character to build off of. Kiptoe added the dragon around the character continuing the whimsical nature and then Jess brought in those hands to show how those characters came to be. The. next guy took inspiration from the women like the queen of hearts and added the rabbit. The story isn’t exactly perfect but the pierces go together and look nice. His is boring and not even remotely tied in. He made the beautiful glow of the hands into a dull boring hands with awkward thumbs
@@BrianaLynn7 Well hopefully the next person (who is wonderful artist!) will create something awesome 👍 I’m curious to see how he’ll try and fit into the story!
@@PenImp I think maybe he could paint over James section and fix the character into something a little nicer
Absolutely losing my mind over the fact that the OG Dinosaur man A) has a TH-cam channel, and B) has joined an awesome Collab of excellent artists. I'M SO EXCITED I'M PRACTICALLY VIBRATING!!!!
I would love to see someone just not be afraid to paint over the other artists. Im a big fan of Basquiat and Warhol and some interviews/docus show how when they collabed they would just constantly paint over each other. Shows you how fragile an idea you thought of really is when it could be destroyed or reinterpreted entirely and potentially end up as something better than before. With this challenge it’s interesting but also frustrating how every artist knows the rules when they start yet they deliberately try to paint around each other instead of taking risks.
Agreed. It always works better if you're acquainted with the other artists and how they feel about heavy reworking. Also, I think it's always best to start a collaboration like this with a specific theme or direction rather then throwing it open to "whatever you want to add."
Artists who came up in the graffiti world are sensitive to paint overs as it was/is a sign of disrespect It’s also interesting to see and hear the comments wrt theme or not , which I would attribute to how the artist came up and their age/experience. Perhaps the older guys just throw caution to the wind collar and the ‘younger’ ones do a themed one. Either way , we listen and learn from each interaction and how each artists background drives them to think about their contributions. Imho
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I would say that asking for permission would be the best way to go about it. Most probably it would be given but it's a courtesy.
Taking risks doesnt mean destroying the storyline and the beauty others tried to contribute with their art. Im in shock! He was asked to collab not to edit and criticise others work.
@@JamesGurney If that's what you thought then you should have politely declined it going to you. Destroying someone else's work and being as disrespectful as all of you were in this video was not the way to go about it.
Its interesting to watch this painting evolve as it passes through so many different artists. Each one is at such a wildly different stage of their artistic career and videography career, so seeing some approach it as a collab and others approach it as an artistic sampling for viewers is very very thought provoking. I love Gurney's art, and I was really hoping for a surrealist addition to the piece (hopefully including a dino), so this was a surprising outcome. I can't say I like it, and watching the swirls and bird above Jess's hands get painted over was hard. But everyone this season has painted over everyone else, and the folks in the video were right, the composition needed help to tone down the overwhelming nature of the piece.
OMG - When Mel said have an oversized character looming in the background looking at this scene. Man that was the perfect idea. Love it!
Jess Karp's addition was my favorite in this series, and so when I read the comments saying her part or story was covered up, I was scared, but when I saw the final result, I don't see what the fuss was about. Her story was about hands overflowing with creativity, and it's still there. Yes, we lost the wisps and the bird (sad to see the birds go), but the hands are still glowing and flowing with creativity.
I guess no one really remembers Greg also covered up a bird or two? Maybe because he didn't mention it.
yeah I was kind of sad that he didn't re-paint the bird, but I think it still looks good. it sounded like he gave it a lot of thought to truly improve the compsition and the whole piece.
If I painted Jess Karp's part, all the hours spent on those hands, with all the whispy drip and smoke detail and the birds, for it to be covered with what looks like some 5 year old finger blasted every pastelle colour in his posession over it, I'd be pissed. I understand a little blending into anothers work may be needed or a bit of a cut across, but to fully paint over 40-50% of someone's work which was 10x better than what covered it... Diabolical... This painting had the potential to sell for way more than the 1st painting, now, I think not with that burning reminder. That would have made me retract any thoughts of placing a bid.
@@Forbidaxe well according to a different comment, he asked jess if she was ok with it and she agreed. So we really don't have any right to get offended in her stead
@@Forbidaxe but you didn't paint that.
And if you had the ability to do so, you would also have developed the humility to be critiqued as well as the understanding that you can always paint another.
Gurney has absolutely improved the cohesiveness of the piece, if you can't see that then you are either purposefully blinding yourself or never learnt to see through an artistic lens in the first place.
I loved that bird rising from the hands. Why paint over it? Not necessary.
I love the fact that he including the creative process being born as they brain storm the ideas before coming to the conclusion of what the final product would be. I wasn't expecting to see that included because most youtube artists just start it of with "so I had this idea" and, boom, there it is. This was a good representation of what goes into birthing these ideas, instead of making it seem like it just presented itself to the artist fully fleshed out. I always wonder how the artist finally decides, out of the infinite possibilities they have to choose from, what they're creation will be. It truly is a birthing process
Any idea when the next video by the next artist will be up? Do they already have the painting? I couldn't find the video on their channel 😔 😢
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. You blend your quirky humour with genuinely fascinating subjects, paintings a narration so beautifully. I love the way Mel thinks and his idea was so fitting. Thanks James!
I had a lot of fun watching this. Appreciated taking part in the thinking behind the creating process.
Interesting that this is the only video 10hun HASN'T commented on.
thats what i said!!!!!! I don't think this guy cared at ALL about this process and it being a community thing. He wasn't excited to open it or sent it off, he just blabbed about unrelated things. HIS character doesn't match, and HIS attitude is narcisistic honestly
I especially loved the DALL-E2 images inserted into an antique, analog image device. Really enjoy the interplay of past with future that you and Greg each brought to the piece.
Kinda wish we had more of a reveal after you finished, but thats all good. Looks good. Although I panicked a little with the little bird being removed. XD
Why? She took so much space on the canvas. I actually feel bad for the other artists that will have to modify/squeeze their own work in. What James did was amazing, her work is still there and the hands are very much the power of the artists imagination. The birds were just the eggs that made a beautiful omlette.
@@aliceDarts why? Cuz I liked it. 👍 but its not a big deal at the end of the day.
When I saw you painting over Jess's work I gasped. And then paused. I think we're always so precious about art but its ever-evolving and up to interpretation. Her contribution will always live on in the previous videos, and it has evolved in your hands. You so diligently discussed the composition and put careful consideration to what your contribution and changes are. Stunning work James!
Loved your approach to the painting and making it more cohesive and making it a truly collaborative painting it looks great and I love the addition of the character you did
(First: sorry, English isn't my native language)
I don't understand people complaining he erased 1/3 of Jess Karps art. It was a little dove (and a half), not 1/3 of her used space. Her hands are still visible and are a prominent part of the painting. And yes, I also liked her work! No hate.
The other artists didn't send a letter with explanations what and why they were painting like this. e.g. the dove that evolves into the woman... if you looked at the painting without watching her video, you wouldn't know why there is a dove...
I really like his approach. The other contributions were so overflowed with details. So stressing for the eye... his contribution may look underwhelming because of that... but actually gave the piece a better balance.
@@nikkisim7288 Personally this is up to personal taste since I did think that painting was too overly complex.What’s not up to personal taste is how much space Jesse’s contribution took,the hands or the women would have already made an alright painting not dividing the bottom and blocking off the top left both at the same times would have been ideal.
i don't like the hands. those are anatomically wrong. jess isn't exactly that good when it comes to the techniques of art and makes tons of error in her drawings. the women is pretty tho.
@@lightlawliet3526 that’s rude. No wrong way to do art….
@@nikkisim7288 if you're learning art it's easy to pick up technical errors when you see it. nothing "rude" about it.
young and inexperienced often try labeling errors in their art as 'stylistic choice' which it isn't because style is sth you do deliberately not 'accidentally'.
I completely agree! Why? She took so much space on the canvas. I actually feel bad for the other artists that will have to modify/squeeze their own work in. What James did was amazing, her work is still there and the hands are very much the power of the artists imagination. The birds were just the eggs that made a beautiful omlette.
I love this guys art style and I loved hearing him and the other guy chatting in the background it brings a smile to my face it kinda reminds me of how bob Ross would talk to the camera
Such a lovely video, James! It was great to see the collab process and how your production style for your videos has become so creative over the years. Looking forward to see more like this!
Old people telling the truth:is a mess... Everyone putting stuff in the middle. Already told this in tenhuns image
I scrolled looking for Ten Hundreds comment and didn’t find it. The other videos have a comment by him at the top.
James is a legend and has inspired many younger artist. He is an artist who knows his stuff. If you go back to the first collab you can see jazza approach it the same way, bring unity to the piece.
For james to use verbiage like” fix it “and “save the painting”, doesn’t take away from the other artist but rather highlights James experience and knowledge on the fundamentals of art. Art is subjective but there is no denying the basics which are a foundation for any artist.
Aaron will paint an animal reviving the dove. I have a feeling haha. He's so great. Loving this so far. I see what people are saying about Jess's work which was beautiful but these guys are used to making art to serve an outcome and have no attachment to their work once it is done. I'm sure James has heard brutal comments about his work and seen editors just bin off his work because they didn't like it. The painting is on a journey and Jess has had a massive impact on it compositionally and it still has her wonderful touch. I like what James has done and he was daring to do it. I do think Jess should get a chance to paint the bird back in at the end. What ever happens the evolution of this piece is so captivating. I can wait to see what Aaron does. Gregg and Peter's parts are my favorites so far and Jess's video brought a tear to my eye. So special.
I think they should be bolder, so I fully support James’ intervention. (Knowing him from the videos I think he held back). It is a Collab painting, not a potpourri of different artist works. Thinking of the painting as a unified malleable work would make it stronger. I already think it is already much stronger than last year’s. Treating one’s work as precious stifles creativity.
It’s just different from what people expect, that’s why there’s so much flak about it. Previous collabs (art youtuber collabs) were made like collages, artists just painting over a small portion then passing on to the next. They only minded their small area of canvas real estate, and not the painting as a whole.
James Gurney is the only one who thought of making the painting a unified malleable work. He grounded everyone’s works and made the overall painting much better.
He also did not follow suit of the pattern of trying to outshine the other artists. James Gurney is one of the few living legends of art in the world and he is the most established of all the artists in this collab so far. His skills can outshine anyone, even Greg Simkins. Yet he did not choose that path, and chose a simpler painting that can balance the crazy. I guess it’s because he’s at the level where he doesn’t need to prove anything.
@@ArtelisStudio and he made a much more educational video while doing that. Even if the interview was at times a bit too slow paced and the dall-e section could have been snappier, I was engaged the whole time, as he was speaking on broader themes. Even his choice of iconography came from a considerate attempt to ground the piece to an established historical art movement: pop art. I think those who took offense should try to see it through this perspective. And I also hope Jess didn’t feel personally slighted.
@@suburbanhomestead I totally agree. Its supposed to be a collaboration not everyone just paint a character.
I do wonder why the other artist haven't commented on the video 😕
@@whitney3258 I know the silence is odd. Even a diplomatic comment would be better, especially from Ten hundred who should act as moderator and clarify the rules and purpose of the endeavor. ( at least last time I checked he had not. I haven’t combed through it since.)
Great discussion on painting composition and ideation on addition to such a busy painting
This is hilarious. At 14:36 he says "I don't want to tell you what to do" but then at 15:04 he really gets going and describes a sort of apocalyptic vision.
I really like the video and your process. You really did take your time analyzing the piece before contributing to it.
Regarding the controversy, the rules allow painting over other artists' work, so I see no issues there. The big problem with such a project is the lack of an overarching vision for the piece. This was the case for the previous collab and for the smaller creator collab as well. Everyone seems to just be adding their characters to the middle of the piece, without even considering the edges of the painting, which become a real issue for the artists contributing later in the process. At best this kind of approach will look like a poster full of stickers or an over-crowded collage. Once every space is filled it is hard to even consider any composition at all, so the fact that James was the first one to even attempt to tackle the issue and look at it as a whole is admirable. Whether he succeeded or not is a matter of personal taste, but in reality, if previous artists even considered the composition of the piece, space for eyes to rest, etc. there would be no need for intervention. And even if James was not the one to do it, someone at a later stage would have to.
People get very hung up on each artist's reasoning and explanation for the meaning of what they contribute to this piece, but in my opinion, once it is there, all the reasoning is irrelevant. Keep in mind, some of the grand visions and stories are just for the video to make it more engaging. Many of the visions or ideas are not that original or appealing, to begin with. What matters, In the end, is the sum total of the piece and the way it works as a whole, not individual ideas. If an element is special to an artist but does not work with other elements, then it is fine to change it, even get rid of it. That is the nature of true art collaboration. Not every contribution will work with others. The overall art is more important than individual ideas. If the individual idea is so important to an artist, they can make a separate piece on their own and go to town with it without any restrictions. Just because some artists' fans will be angry about painting over this artist's work does not mean it should not be painted over for the greater good of the whole piece. In my opinion, good art is not about pleasing the audience, or pleasing all artists involved for that matter. Artists are in service of art, and if their contribution diminishes it, then they should be at peace with what has to be done to improve it, even if it means changing/erasing their contribution. It is harsh, but it is the truth if you are aiming at greatness.
Plus, why would it be OK for the artists who contribute at the beginning of the process to take up all the "attractive" space in the middle of the painting, leaving the later ones with "scraps" at the edges? Why can't the later artists paint over other ones if they feel like it? The artists at the beginning tend to do larger pieces with more elements in the middle, and some people expect that the later artists just go with it and squeeze something in the space that was left for them. Why would the later artists be selfless, when the beginning ones were selfish? I think it is OK to paint over other artists if your idea improves the painting as a whole instead of just playing the game of "filling the gaps".
As a personal opinion, I did not like the hands from the beginning. They took up A LOT of space, and they introduced many of the compositional problems in the entire piece. They really centralized the overall composition, which made it boring. They also forced symmetry on the overall composition, which made it even more boring. Since the hands took up most of the bottom of the painting, it caused division and fragmentation of available painting space for future artists. They literally split the painting in half at the point they were introduced, making the job of later artists much harder.
I do have a problem with most artists adding characters to the piece as if it was the only way to go. No abstract art, landscape elements, plants, buildings, abstraction... I believe that Doke added graffiti in the first collab, which was refreshing, but really not much beyond that. Jess added the hands in the second collab, which could be a nice idea if executed differently and more interestingly, but she also added a character. In general, I feel that these collabs are too character based. It would be more interesting if someone for instance introduced linework to an element and allowed a later artist to color it in their style etc. That sounds much more like a collab to me, rather than just putting a collection of various artists' work on one panel.
To sum it up, I think the idea of the collab is nice, but by the way, it works, it is almost impossible to have a nice painting in the end. It inevitably ends up like a tacky patchwork that is all over the place thematically and compositionally, in my opinion. The end result is almost certainly doomed to be less than the sum of its parts, unfortunately. I appreciate that James did try to address the issue in some way, regardless if people liked it or not. He saw an issue with the painting, he consulted it with other artists, and he came up with a solution, which I personally liked. Painting in most cases is problem solving, and getting upset or emotional about it does not contribute to solving these problems.
Dare I say, I love this format the most from all the collaborators of this artpiece; especially when he was bouncing off ideas with other artists in a dialogue form. It felt like I was watching an art documentary. I loved all the other artists and watch them all the time, but sometimes the editing/storytelling gets too dramatic and over-the-top. I love that this is just super chill, barely any effects, and showcases of James's creative process in a straightforward manner.
Why did Tenhun not comment on this one?
I was a little thrown off as well by what he did since Jess work was really beautiful but after hearing what the lady said about the eyes resting and looking at the piece as a whole, its turned out beautifully! It actually looks like the hands are glowing more and your eyes tend to rest in the center and the work he did in itself is awesome and works well with everything! Im excited to see the next contribution, thanks ten hundred for bringing this little adventure together. ✌
Yes I agree. I actually keep looking back and forth between the before and after images, and now that you can see the thumbs, it’s much better. He has created transparent smoke rather than opaque swirls of colour. It’s unfortunate that the birds had to be sacrificed, but it absolutely looks better now.
This video should be part of art appreciation and history in high schools, art schools and universities around the world… I am loving the combination of styles, arts and generations of artists in this years collab!
I like the challenge that you all have to accomplish of adding to the piece your own bit and changing the overall look to go together. I think it’s fun to watch, but I’d be so nervous about messing it up!
As for AI “art” uh no, not a fan. Without the human element AI art could not exist. All of its elements are stolen from others’ work. Scouring archives and the internet for images taken or created by humans to combine together is delving too far into copyright and trademark infringement, and taking away the actual artist’s rights. It could also find personal photos not intended for public use, it already snatches images from actors and models. I agree with your concerns of it hindering the artist’s imagination to come up with these things on their own as well as the freaky stuff it could generate. The latter could be fixed somewhat, if the programmers compensate for certain phrases or to not make explicit content. At least with Photoshop the person chooses elements and has to have some skills and do some work to accomplish the finished piece. AI “art” that generates like this is the ultimate cheat on so many levels. Like NFTs I’ll be glad when the trend fades into virtual obscurity. I’m a fan of your art, not the AI stuff.
Mel’s collection is beyond awesome! I found about his collection some seven years before, and I am in awe. I would so much love to visit him, but I live on the other side of the globe. I watched all videos that I could come across about his collection, and his interviews. Thank you for this video. And you are an amazing artist, inventor, creator, and inspiration with every your video. And the two of you in the same video. Absolutely fantastic!
The comments here are a little bit intense. I think you did a great job and I guess you're right, it is busy - but I also like that, for some reason. Something about having points of interest all over the painting appeals to me - I feel like if I owned it, I would see something different every time I looked at it. I enjoyed all the information you shared in this video. Thank you!
I can't see a single. negative comment. Did he delete them all? He seems petty enough to do so.
I think this video brought different generations of artists together to create a cohesive end product that is going to a good cause. Each artist has taken risks, some that are more liked or less liked than others. People connect with the artist with the story or vision behind the art. Started with ten hundred who had a character created to go on an amazing journey. He admitted that he could have made the character a little smaller, which most of us probably agree. Then Kiptoe told a unique story in his amazing video that drew us in and I don’t know about you really made me smile. I almost like his video more than the art. Anyway he introduced another style of art that connected to the first. The Jess came in and stayed true to herself and tried to figure out how to incorporate her style with two very different styles. Hers tells a spiritual story, but somehow embraces the character before hers. In some ways I felt she took way too much space but what she created worked and was beautiful. This video was a merging of two different generations. This artist took us on an art journey back through time and worked to make the old new again. While I had a little anxiety watching him paint over the hands, which I loved, it does make sense why he did that. He took the mission of creating a cohesive piece to mean exactly what it says and worked to restore cohesion between all the artists and their unique styles. The next artist will take us on a new journey. He may have a vision that truly speaks to us, or he may create something that stirs up emotions in you. That’s the beauty of art. It’s to evoke emotion, it’s subjective, it’s interactive, and it tells a story. All I know for sure is this piece is hands down better than the challenge happening simultaneously with this one. This one just seems to work, where the other one just isn’t making sense. Anyway..great job on your contribution. It was a blessing learning about a new artist. And I subscribed!
you make some interesting points, but I think the goal of this collab is different from what you'hv tried to achieve. for me, this canvas is a celebration of art and artists. it's supposed to be complex, it's suppoesd to be detailed. I don't need a corrner for my eyes to rest, because every corrner is a like a differnent peace of art, created by differernt artist. for me, I expect every piece of this cabvas to be amazing, I want it to be endless space of art and creativity. this is perhaps the most ambitios collab ever made' for me, a corrner for my eyes to rest on this piece, is an unfullfiled potential.
@@ivanmatveyev13 I totally agree. Also each artist should express themselves in their own way, no matter how complex it is. Art doesn’t need to be complex or simple, as it express different things to different people
If it's a celebration of art, then isn't it important to uphold the basic principles of art? Things like composition and value should apply to every painting.
@@waitingforpapatobless7540 That’s true. But I do find it disrespectful to replace another artist’s hours of detailed work with some simple smearing of colours.
His covering up of Jess’ deep emotional communication was disappointing and sad. This was a major miss in my opinion. His character feels irrelevant and distanced from the others story as well. Not a fan at all. I wish he would’ve attempted the magician.
@@Moksi_Monkey I do understand what you're saying, but from everyone from the beginning was told they could add and paint over other's work. Jess made the feminine face at the top but she chose to take a whole lotta extra real estate with those hands at the bottom.
I thought the first 4 had such great talent, but these guys really brought some wisdom to the collab. I need more
Thank you for going back into some of the other parts of the painting to fix it! Sometimes all the artist are too afraid to step on each others toes and it makes for a terrible overall painting. Awesome stuff James!!
We were beyond thrilled to be able to scan this and do the printing!
Can't WAIT to see what Aaron does with this!! So happy to hear he'll join this collab!!
I'm a little sad he painted over the dove flying off the hands, but otherwise great work. It's cool to see a mash up with young artist & old school type artistry
I love that you added the input from the old school cartoonist. It felt like you both were adding your skills to this piece.
This was awesome James, fully interesting throughout the whole video it's such a pleasure to listen to the discussions around the piece and also AI!!!
The whole idea of this video is for artist to come together and have fun, anything outside of that don’t matter
I’ve taken some time to think and digest this video, because something felt off, but now I’ve got my thoughts in order.
I believe some folks in the comments may not understand what the purpose to a true artistic collaboration is. It can be jarring for those not within *both* the traditional art communities and TH-cam art communities if they’ve never experienced the other side; I think this was a masterful attempt to bring both sides of the larger art world together. Dali and friends painted over each other’s works all the time when collaborating, because it’s not about ego, it’s about telling a cohesive story.
Gurney’s dive in to the past, as well as the future of art; his taking a risk with a style he not exactly experience with or known for; seeking to help tie the composition together as a whole piece; even getting a critic to give feedback on the piece at it’s current stage… it’s all a very nuanced and beautiful part of the evolution of this piece to help make it a cohesive unit. Even last season the people near the end worked to tie the piece together in to one cohesive piece.
I realize many following along are perhaps more active within the “new age” style of art communities, where content creation is king, but you’ve got to respect the fact that these people are essentially masters of their craft and the predecessors of those you follow now, including those who’ve previously worked on this piece. There is no shade, there is no drama to be had; you absolutely do not need to defend any artists who’s work gets covered over, either, as they all agreed to this before hand, and as budding masters of their craft, I’m certain they understand the need to tie it together, and perhaps if they were the one at this stage they’d have been the one doing it.
Everyone will see in the end how beautiful and rich this turns out to be, of this I am certain.
I think a lot of thought and intention was put in to this piece, far more than many may realize or care about, but it’s important and deserving of respect and even admiration none-the-less.
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This hasn’t gone at all the way I expected with any of the artists and I am LOVING IT!! ❤️ I love that art is every evolving and collaborations like this are a living example of art in evolution. I’m glad you got to enjoy trying something new Mr Gurney; heck, last season one of the artists (Jazza) tried an entirely new medium for the first time on his part of the collaboration. I’m excited to see how this piece continues to flow and change, and I am way excited to see it going to an animator and artist whose work I’ve seen since childhood! I bet Tenhun didn’t expect his idea to take such a neat trip!
It's great to see a collaboration between an older generation with the younger generation with this project.
I need friends like this. The exchange added so much to this painting
The electric man looks great, but I think your ruined the hands should’ve left the way they were, but you’re an amazing artist
Next artist: th-cam.com/users/AaronBlaiseArt
This is a really cool, different approach to the other TH-camrs videos. It's amazing to see the conversation and brainstorming
just to say that i feel like you didn't disrespect the other artists on the contrary, it feel like you took time to think what would make the whole picture works and so make their contribution shine. And for alle the video i did not comment: as always great content ^^
WOW dude this went from a normal art Collab to a legendary piece of history
Oh my gosh, this is what I needed! Really enjoyed your addition to this collaboration, also loved your insight and your thoughts on collaboration with other artists generally and AI in particular. It makes me think of your old traveling artist tapes that you’ve featured on this channel before. I appreciate how you are always finding new ways to create art in community with other people- it’s not often mentioned as part of the standard artists tool kit, but community is an invaluable thing.
wow, there was so much in this video. as someone who also got access in the last month to DALL-E 2, I really appreciated your insight and thoughts on the tool in terms of creativity, imagination, and the like.
in terms of collaboration with the AI behind the tool, I wonder if DALL-E 2 is collecting information from all of our inputs to influence future pictures and artwork? for example, maybe it will take images that get downloaded as "successful" and then have that connect to the words used in the picture. just a thought - thanks for another great video!