Don't know if the shutter count really is too much of an issue - I think (not yet checked) some of my 6Ds have done more than 200K currently. The R does have the (dis)advantage of a higher MP count - which provides slightly more detail. I personally think the R6ii is a little less noisy. If you do other photography as well (I'm a full time photog) - the R6ii - is absolutely fantastic, the very fast AF, the video is better, 2 card slots, more ergonomic with the 3 dials (shutter ISO and aperture) and I really like the photo to video switch location making some event photography to be materially easier. As with all tech though - more cameras keep coming out - I'm tempted to buy another R6ii (or an R8 or an R5ii and/or a sony camera body or two) as additional cameras.
Shutter count ratings are not concrete. Just because the shutter count is high, doesn't mean it will die. Ratings are there from the manufacturer to say it will be guaranteed for that point to operate with a certain margin of error. Often after you get past that point, it will continue to work just fine, but may have increased error in the actual performance of the shutter, like the shutter speed itself. This matters if you're shooting sports, but with astrophotography and landscape, who cares about a 250 millisecond deviation in the shutter speed when you're shooting for 10 seconds? (10000 milliseconds) I think the money would be better spent on a star tracker or a new lens you've been wanting. I'm looking to upgrade TO the EOS R, using a 6D astro modded now. I love the 6D though, all the cameras here in question render the milky way detail and color wonderfully. I have the Sony A7 IV for video and daytime use, but I hate how it renders stars and nebulosity.
Have you got a quote for repair? A lot of people fret over shutter life, but I wonder whether it's a big deal. For members of Canon's professional services, I would expect it to never happen unless there's an actual fault, and you would get a Canon loaner to cover you.
@@oneeyedphotographer I did look into it but since I bought it second hand it was going to cost more to replace the shutter than what I paid for the camera! and as for the shutter life thing I have another 6D that I have had as long as the one with dead shutter and it's still going after doing over 300 thousand clicks , so it's just like a car you might get a million miles out one car and another car you won't! The Rated Shutter life given by Canon is only for warranty Purposes
Hi Michael, thank you for sharing this video! I learned a few things I was unaware of. I do have a question on the R6 Mk ll that I can't find an answer for, so I was hoping that you could help. For astrophotography I use a Venus Optics Laowa RF 15mm F/2 lens (all manual). I was taking night sky photos a couple days ago, and out of roughly 100 images, I am seeing a bit of rotating blur on about half of them - each one has the same amount of motion, and it was real sporadic which shots were good vs. bad. This happened a few weeks ago with a Rokinon EF 14mm F.2.8 lens (manual lens) so I've concluded this isn't a lens issue. The tripod is rock solid, so I know it isn't that. I am thinking it had something to do with the IBIS. This is what I can't find answers on, even in the Canon manual for this camera. The manual is very limited about enabling IS and nothing about disabling IS. So unlike my other cameras that do not have IBIS, I am a bit unfamiliar with this part of the menu system. When I go to the IS (Image Stabilization) Mode in the menu settings, it opens up a sub menu. IS Mode.... on Digital IS ...on Still Photo IS... Always Focal length... 50mm (Im assuming I don't need to worry about that one) So my question is, do I turn all three of these off for astrophotography? Or just one? Thank you!
I'd just turn all of them off. I know when IBIS was on it did occassionally show up with the problem. Turning off IS mode and digital IS will automatically turn off still photo IS
actually I think they are both completely when on silent shutter and with a wide open aperture. I think I'd only just noticed since I often shoot 1/3 stop down on the aperture
Salutations - I use the EF to R mount adapter so any "normal" lens will work. The adapter has the filter slot so you can also add light pollution filters that way. I use trackers as well so the focal length isn't so much of an issue. I personally like the fast primes (easier for focusing and generally sharper) - so my preference tends to be like the sigma 35, sigma 85, normally things like the tamron 15-30 but when I'm timelapsing - light lenses are preferable
Salutations - I use the EF to R mount adapter so any "normal" lens will work. The adapter has the filter slot so you can also add light pollution filters that way. I use trackers as well so the focal length isn't so much of an issue. I personally like the fast primes (easier for focusing and generally sharper) - so my preference tends to be like the sigma 35, sigma 85, normally things like the tamron 15-30 but when I'm timelapsing - light lenses are preferable
I don't have a tracker...I would have a concern about the focal length as a result. I am new to the R6 MKii and only have a 16mm. I am thinking of getting a 5d or 6d so i can use a 14mm.@@michaelgoh2884
Worth making the change from the R to R6II? My R is getting up there in shutter count. I use RF 15-35 F2.8 ISO 6400 13 seconds as my typical formula
Don't know if the shutter count really is too much of an issue - I think (not yet checked) some of my 6Ds have done more than 200K currently. The R does have the (dis)advantage of a higher MP count - which provides slightly more detail. I personally think the R6ii is a little less noisy. If you do other photography as well (I'm a full time photog) - the R6ii - is absolutely fantastic, the very fast AF, the video is better, 2 card slots, more ergonomic with the 3 dials (shutter ISO and aperture) and I really like the photo to video switch location making some event photography to be materially easier. As with all tech though - more cameras keep coming out - I'm tempted to buy another R6ii (or an R8 or an R5ii and/or a sony camera body or two) as additional cameras.
Shutter count ratings are not concrete. Just because the shutter count is high, doesn't mean it will die. Ratings are there from the manufacturer to say it will be guaranteed for that point to operate with a certain margin of error. Often after you get past that point, it will continue to work just fine, but may have increased error in the actual performance of the shutter, like the shutter speed itself. This matters if you're shooting sports, but with astrophotography and landscape, who cares about a 250 millisecond deviation in the shutter speed when you're shooting for 10 seconds? (10000 milliseconds)
I think the money would be better spent on a star tracker or a new lens you've been wanting. I'm looking to upgrade TO the EOS R, using a 6D astro modded now. I love the 6D though, all the cameras here in question render the milky way detail and color wonderfully. I have the Sony A7 IV for video and daytime use, but I hate how it renders stars and nebulosity.
Yep can't beat the Old 6D I have four of them myself but will admit one has died with dead shutter!
Have you got a quote for repair? A lot of people fret over shutter life, but I wonder whether it's a big deal. For members of Canon's professional services, I would expect it to never happen unless there's an actual fault, and you would get a Canon loaner to cover you.
@@oneeyedphotographer I did look into it but since I bought it second hand it was going to cost more to replace the shutter than what I paid for the camera! and as for the shutter life thing I have another 6D that I have had as long as the one with dead shutter and it's still going after doing over 300 thousand clicks , so it's just like a car you might get a million miles out one car and another car you won't! The Rated Shutter life given by Canon is only for warranty Purposes
Hi Michael, thank you for sharing this video! I learned a few things I was unaware of. I do have a question on the R6 Mk ll that I can't find an answer for, so I was hoping that you could help. For astrophotography I use a Venus Optics Laowa RF 15mm F/2 lens (all manual). I was taking night sky photos a couple days ago, and out of roughly 100 images, I am seeing a bit of rotating blur on about half of them - each one has the same amount of motion, and it was real sporadic which shots were good vs. bad. This happened a few weeks ago with a Rokinon EF 14mm F.2.8 lens (manual lens) so I've concluded this isn't a lens issue. The tripod is rock solid, so I know it isn't that. I am thinking it had something to do with the IBIS. This is what I can't find answers on, even in the Canon manual for this camera. The manual is very limited about enabling IS and nothing about disabling IS.
So unlike my other cameras that do not have IBIS, I am a bit unfamiliar with this part of the menu system. When I go to the IS (Image Stabilization) Mode in the menu settings, it opens up a sub menu.
IS Mode.... on
Digital IS ...on
Still Photo IS... Always
Focal length... 50mm (Im assuming I don't need to worry about that one)
So my question is, do I turn all three of these off for astrophotography? Or just one?
Thank you!
I'd just turn all of them off. I know when IBIS was on it did occassionally show up with the problem. Turning off IS mode and digital IS will automatically turn off still photo IS
Hi Michael, how this R6ii compare to Canon 5D Mark IV use for astrophotography in 2024 when budget is limited?
It was not clear to me on which setting the shutter sound was louder on the R6ii compared to the R6.
actually I think they are both completely when on silent shutter and with a wide open aperture. I think I'd only just noticed since I often shoot 1/3 stop down on the aperture
What lens would you recommend for R6 Mark II if I want both astrophotography and landscape photography? Thank you in advance.
Salutations - I use the EF to R mount adapter so any "normal" lens will work. The adapter has the filter slot so you can also add light pollution filters that way. I use trackers as well so the focal length isn't so much of an issue. I personally like the fast primes (easier for focusing and generally sharper) - so my preference tends to be like the sigma 35, sigma 85, normally things like the tamron 15-30 but when I'm timelapsing - light lenses are preferable
What lens(es) do you recommend for astrophotography? RF lenses? EF lenses with adapter?
Salutations - I use the EF to R mount adapter so any "normal" lens will work. The adapter has the filter slot so you can also add light pollution filters that way. I use trackers as well so the focal length isn't so much of an issue. I personally like the fast primes (easier for focusing and generally sharper) - so my preference tends to be like the sigma 35, sigma 85, normally things like the tamron 15-30 but when I'm timelapsing - light lenses are preferable
I don't have a tracker...I would have a concern about the focal length as a result. I am new to the R6 MKii and only have a 16mm. I am thinking of getting a 5d or 6d so i can use a 14mm.@@michaelgoh2884
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