Being "HAOLE" In Hawaii - This Comedian Gets Serious About His Real Life Experience / Michael Madsen
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- It's a touchy subject no one wants to talk about, but everyone can relate.
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So what's it really like moving to Hawaii as a mainlander?
In this video Derek and Michael have a candid conversation about a touchy topic everyone experiences but few openly discuss - what does it mean to be 'haole' in Hawaii?
Michael is a comedian who grew up in Hawaii and uses his unique perspective and life experiences to make people laugh.
Not everything about growing up in Hawaii was funny, though.
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Derek Okahashi
RS-82017
Licensed In Hawaii
We moved to Kona July 83. Went to my freshman year of HS at Konawaena. I was blonde hair blue eyes(now no hair). It was rough. It taught me things though. Stand your ground but know your place. We moved back to the mainland and even with the things i had to put up with i didn't want to leave. So ten years after HS i moved to Maui and have been here for almost thirty years. Hawaii is a very special place. It has changed quite a bit though over the years. I miss all the gnarly uncles in the lineup surfing that would keep things fair for everyone. Nowadays people come and dont have to earn respect like you did back in the day so much
our uncles taught us the way of things by giving us Lickens and telling us why they did it. i feel im right in the middle of the old school and the new gen.
Mark Thompson
@@bloodshot.i6431 Haole to you Too! he so Haole he dont know hes Haole
@@bloodshot.i6431LOL! Mark THOOOMMPsen😂
@@Nastyn1nja808das how come yo face all buss up.
My favorite part... "I found it offensive that everyone was offended in California." Same, but this goes for the whole west coast. Being half-okinawan, raised in the south and moved to Hawai'i as an adult, sarcasm, humor, humbleness & kindness go a long way! If you can't laugh at yourself, you're not doing it right!
Okinawan and raised in the south? Tell me more about this. Where in Hawaii are you? Mahalo for your comment
@@movingtohawaii I lived on Big Island, but have moved since. Lots of Okinawans allover the USA and world. Milbrat, and I lived in a small town in the South where I was one of 2 asian kids for a long time. I was teased from an early age on being asian in a mostly black community. They had never seen an asian before I'm guessing. Hawai'i felt like coming home, because our ethnicities (even mixed) are celebrated.
@@lifeontherally where in the South? I was born in Pensacola and same!! All white family and mostly black schools. I’d regularly get “Chinese boy”. Haha. Interested in where you were.
@@movingtohawaii Small town North Carolina! I actually have met quite a few Hawaiians in NC within the last decade when I have visited.
Yup yup
I was born and raised in Hawaii, Nanakuli, Hi. My Mom was Hawaiian, Chinese, Portuguese, American Indian. My Dad was Swedish with a little Irish and German mixed in. So, I guess you could say my sister, brother and I were "cosmopolitan" for the most part. We were perceived as "haole", because we took after our father, but as soon as we talked broken english, or "pidgeon", people knew we were local. Never really felt the local prejudice because I went through school (elementary to high school) with childhood friends and was liked and respected because of my musical accomplishments throughout my school years. My Dad on the other ALWAYS felt that prejudice, and it never left him until he moved back to the mainland (California). I felt SO bad because I never recognized the sacrifices he made on our behalf. For the most part, whenever you felt or experienced that hatred towards haole's, it was from the younger asian/hawaiian population. At least that was my experience. But, all in all, I would never ever want to grow up anywhere else in the world! Still have family back there, and miss the beaches and the local "grindz", everyday!! ❤😢😋🙏🤙🏽🤙🏽
This is your home.
You know i'm gonna drop some truth... If haole boys in the past who overthrew the hawaiian government in the most polite way knew the problems that were gonna happen later on down the road they probably would have just wiped most of the native population out and put the rest on a reservation on kahoolawe... The native hawaiians should be happy. But on the other hand if you had the reservation, you'd have casinos in the islands. So I guess it all depends on how you look at it. 🤷♂️
I loved this podcast so much. I dated a guy from Waianae 12 years ago and came back and forth from CANADA. He was a huge entertainer there and well respected. His friends in the industry would always tease me for not understanding everything but it was always in an endearing way and playful and kind. And that was because I cared about their friend, and their island and I was genuine and real and positive and great full. I love Hawaii so much but I would have been the same no matter where my relationship was❤
This is a great video! Very good perspective! One thing I have learned from my local Ohana is, “Haole” means one with no soul or no aloha! I’ve been taught to not use it because it is derogatory, but also anyone can be a Haole, it does not mean “white”! Even a Hawaiian can be a Haole! Best advice on here…..stay humble!! My life has been so enriched from the Hawaiian locals!! I don’t know what I would do without them in my life!! Aloha guys! 🤙🤙
Loved hearing Michael speak about his perpective in Hawaii!
"You can not scrap him.." absolutely lost it 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 “because then I scrap you and I’ll win.”
In high school this younger gangster kid pulled a knife on me, to steal my money. I had $1-2 at most, but I told him no. His brother happened to walk around the corner and he was my friend from shop class. The younger guy thought he was going to get my money. His brother ended up kicking his ass for messing with me. That kid never looked at me in the eye again. It was surprising, funny and scary.
@@Lokahi-fo-lifeWe teach through Whippins
I used to get beat up on Fridays at Washington Intermediate School. “Kill Haole Day”. LOL!
One of his first statements is so true . You get a hint of prejudice if not more in almost every connection you have with local people. You learn to live with it, but it truly can be traumatic.
I think having other videos about “what it’s like” being black, asian, etc in Hawaii would be a great idea!
Thanks for sharing your personal experience. They say time heals all wounds but we have to consider for some that could be a lifetime. Even then, we live with our scars. As for having this conversation with other ethnicities and discussing their experiences, we’re definitely considering that. Mahalo for watching 🤙
I had a friend at UH, who was a local haole - SUPER-haole! - and went to Roosevelt HS. She had platinum blonde hair, blue eyes and milky white skin (she was just short of being albino), so she was one big bullseye🎯 on "Kill Haole Day." I never met anyone more traumatized by her "Kill Haole Day" experiences. If she didn't leave for the mainland, I'm sure she made certain her kids went to private schools where they wouldn't have to endure what she went through.
Yes! Writing a book about this subject, though I'm prospecting stories from others who experienced prejudice in Hawai"i for a compilation.❤
I have an acquaintance whom through recent conversation, realized that he was the kine parent that teach his daughter hate light skinned people and those where the chicks that I had to scrap with and bullied others for the color of their skin.
I remember the last day of school was kill Haole day. I remember running home. I was in kindergarten. 😅
Michael seems like a very respectful person. So, I think that’s why he didn’t have as much of a problem someone else might have had.
Been living on the big island for 37 years. Was 18 years old. Pidgin english is a necessary part of communication and changes depending on who your talking to. Was partying with a kahuna the other night. We talked about life, death, and everything before and after. As the sun was rising he got serious and told me " You one good braddah, i like you. I think so i going tell you your sacred hawaiian name". Wow, i thought. He says"Fuckin Haole". Almost died laughing! Love it here!
My dad was in the Air Force. We were stationed to Hickam in 1963. I was four years old. I don't remember being bullied on race. My best friend was 1/2 Filipino, half white, I played with a set of hawaiian/filipino mix triplets, and my next door neighbors were chinese and had a son and daughter my age. We lived in a house on the corner of Pu'uku Makai and Wanaka street, about two-three blocks up from Salt Lake Road. Attended Waipahu for part of kindergarten, then transferred to Aliomanu. My brother and I and two boys at the end of our street were the only white families on the street. We got treated really well, our yard was a popular play place, my dad chased away all the Waikiki lei vendors and only let the neighbor hood kids pick flowers from our 19 plumeria trees for playing, school events, etc. My dad was 1/4 Cherokee, and was dark complected so I think he was respected for his ancestry. We attended a lot of parties of people he worked with, from the military to when he retired and worked at Honolulu Airport. Growing up as a minority in my formative years definitely changed me. Moving to a community on the mainland that was 99 percent white was a cultural shock. I sought out the first asian face I could, which was the daughter of the people who owned the only chinese restaurant in town who lived next door to my aunt and uncle. We are still friends today and her family moved when my aunt and uncle moved so they could stay neighbors.
You creatively covered this subject with humor and honesty. Best Hawaii TH-cam video I’ve seen. Thank you. Way too long a comment. I’m sorry. This video “hit home” for me.
it’s been my dream to move to Hawaii after my brother passes away from cancer.
I’ve taken care of him for many years now. Hawaii is the only place on earth I FEEL peace. The singing of the birds in the morning… the smell of the flowers. The warmth of the people there.
Derek, thanks for doing this video.
Respect is something I believe is earned by first showing respect to others.
I hope I can make my dream come true someday there. I can use a “rest of my life in peace.”
Merry Christmas to you both.
Larry
This was a great video Derek! I always enjoy new content you throw up on your channel! I use your videos as sort of an “End of the work day” relaxer.
I lived in O'ahu for two years, and I miss it so much. I've never met a people more dignified than the people who call Hawaii home. ❤
I love Hawaii the people are so kind and special
Awesome content. I’m hapa haole, left when I was 5, back and forth, came back when I was 14-15 and went back to the mainland, now want to come home. I feel this whole podcast so much!
Just sharing true stories from real people in the islands! Thanks for watching
I loved everything about this - relatable and informative.
My grandfather moved to Oahu from Chicago in the 30s. He was army. He was as white as snow as far as appearance w/ Irish/Scottish ancestry. He was a boxer and my grandmother was his biggest fan as she watched him in the rink. They eventually married there and had the first two kids there. They owned several shops in Waikiki including a camera shop and taxi business while living in Kaimuki in the 40s. My grandmother and Don Ho’s father are brother and sister and all grew up on the Big Island as kids.
I didn’t go to Oahu schools but was enrolled in the pvt catholic school system on Guam. The military built their own school system on Andersen AFB because of the fights, etc when the military dependents moved their kids into the public school system on Guam. The Japanese on Guam have a different history there not as farm hands but as colonizers as you may well know. Many Chamorro people on Guam were brutalized, raped and killed by bayonet and tortured repeatedly for sympathizing w/ the Americans after being colonial subjects since 1898 by the US. Longer & more colorful history than Hawaii and the Hawaiians.
Thank you guys for your conversation. It is an important one. I never feel more at home and the best of myself as a 73 year old than on island. I gave been an outsider everywhere I lived with an on the move Army brat childhood. Yup, respect and humility lead the way. No where on island did I experience any less from locals. I did however experience less than that in Puna from other haoli folks. Having intergenerational friendships for a senior is greatly enhanced on island if they are willing to evolve into the best version of who they dare to become. I volunteered at Campbell and got a lot of joy meeting my new neighbors. Campbell offered a great opportunity to really appreciate the true diversity of Hawaii. Frankly, I found the aloha my own brown skinned Mother often spoke of in her always too short vacays there in the 60's-80's. The staring advice is true wisdom, learning the history, taking the bus and immersion into the culture is the best for any age. I hope you guys have more conversations like this.
I grew up as just about the only haole boy on a sugar plantation on a remote part of the the Big Island's Hamakua coast from 1965-1975. Now I have to laugh when I hear mainland haoles talk about microaggressions.
Man this was a great conversation and I really enjoyed this video!!! And I have to laugh with the comment of Kailua. :). Thanks guys!
Great video. Thank you!
Good listening to your conversation. Mahalo!
This was a fantastic interview! Thanks so much for making this a lot of the points really resonated with me and I found it very motivating. I too am a local haole who moved back and forth and had military parents. Like you two I always struggled with trying to prove myself or be more local and it was definitely a challenge. Also similar to you two I realize that we all have our own Journey we all have our individual ways that we see things and the way that we handle things.
As far as the actual phrase haole though the thing I've always struggled with is that it's always used in a derogatory way! I remember in school people say "ho, you can dance pretty good for one haole" or girls that say "you're cute for one haole" or whatever it was which means that somehow you're already inferior from the jump. So some people laughingly joke about it and act as if it's a light word but the problem is you're already coming from a place of inferiority. Like in Dereks' story where his sister says oh because he's haole she is referring to something subpar. A weakness, a deficiency, something négative. On the other end of that it would be like if you solve an equation and they said oh that's cuz you're haole however haole is always used in the negative.
People are going to think what they think and like he mentioned they're bad people everywhere and they would have just been mad about something else or upset that you about something else. However the issue I have with the word haole specifically is it forces you to prove yourself because if you're considered haole then your lower on the rung and you have to elevate yourself somehow. It's like a pecking order and you already have a strike against you before anything even starts.
It's almost like someone creates this criteria of what local is and then they start by adding and minusing things.
1. Dark skin +/White skin-
2. Speak Pidgin+/
3. Skills, connections, wealth. Talents etc..
So in other words if you were trying to get into a social group on any level if it was sports or academics or whatever it is. In Hawaii a white person who doesn't speak Pidgin is already a couple rungs lower on the ladder. So they have to offset that or at least they feel like they have to offset that with some sort of skill some sort of ability or like Derek mentioned wealth or with jokes or whatever it is somehow you have to prove yourself on some level to in order to feel comfortable with yourself.
That's not to say that people won't accept you or be okay with you but you already start on a(percieved) lower level from the start.
It's the assumption that somebody different than you is inferior. And it happened many times throughout my childhood. Something as simple as spearfishing, catching aama crabs, surfing, boogie boarding, bodysurfing, making poke, speaking pidgin or whatever things are inherently local the assumption is that somehow you can't do that or you won't be as good as me at doing that.
its hard not to have an inferiority complex...and then there is the SHOCK when you do it well and backhanded compliments 😂. "Youre smarter than you look" "you run fast for a haole"
I don't know if I consider this a positive or a negative because in some ways it makes you stronger and builds your will and you definitely learn to deal with criticism and doubt from others as well as self-doubt.You learn how to push through many challenges, However as a culture I feel like that's a terrible way to treat somebody.(and yes I am deeply familiar with Hawaiian history-we took it all throughout elementary, intermediate, and high school. My point is about how individuals treat individuals. How do YOU choose to treat 1 person? )
As a sidenote Im stuck living in Vegas for too long now but my past has really helped me empathize and connect with people from all walks of life and assume the best without bias because i know what it feels like to be judged and underestimated.
So after thinking about this comment that I just wrote it hit me that the people that treat you like you need to prove something to them or somehow your inferior to them aren't worth your time. I spent so much of my childhood and my teenage years trying to prove that I wasn't haole or that I was more local. And every time I would prove myself it never mattered. You would just have to restart in the next relationship or with the next person and it's a waste of time. So I guess the big takeaway from me is if I'm around people that treat me like I have to prove myself to be around them they're probably not the people I should be around anyway. Obviously those things happen a lot more when you're younger and especially like middle school and high school but reflecting now the culture in Hawaii isn't like that everywhere obviously. And I think those experiences are just more prominent in your developmental years all of the fights and the criticism, proving yourself that happens at any school right at that age?
So basically if someone treats you like you're inferior for being you that is their problem.
And another idea with Michael that I know for myself if I would have had more support at home to help me build up my own confidence that probably would have helped tremendously. My parents were very passive and my dad was gone a lot(my brother bulled me) so I didn't get to build up that self-confidence either so it could have been a little more of a foundational issue rather than a cultural issue I don't know how much Derek's family traveled but it could have been something similar and building actual self confidence and social skills and things like that that you probably developed later in life maybe but if the family nucleus can help you build confidence in yourself and who you are that's going to translate to to the friends you pick the way people treat you the way you let people treat you all those factors as well.
Sorry for all the rambling but this podcast brought up a lot of good emotions and it was very nice! Thank you so much!
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I loved reading your thoughts. ❤ Peace, Brother.
🙏So crazy you mention all this, Im Hapa-Hawaiian light skinned, went Stevenson, Highlands, PCH, RH, and had to scrap with some girls when I attended Campbell High School calling me Haole. I found its a lot of time the parents teaching dem be haters against lighter skinned. Sad and true, uneducated. Writing a book rnow on this subject but with Hapa-Hawaiian.❤❤❤
wow ive been on Maui for about 17 years now its Feels Amazing to see These Names here. i went to Stvenson. Roosevelt! i grad 03. Bruno Mars is my Classmate lol. i just smiling so much to see My fellow islanders!.
My good friend is a very good surfer and this nomad surfer was traveling the globe.
He is a respectful person, but he told me to be very respectful in the water especially in the waters.
I really didn't know what he meant, until I met a at least 6'5" pure muscle Hawaiian😂.
i was a Haole on Maui for a couple years in elementary school. I experienced things like kill Haole day. Not a good thing, but I am not bitter about it, it gave me a understanding of discrimination and racism that most whites will never know. I let it make me a better person.
I love the set. That wall is awesome. Great video. Thank you for all the educational information. ❤
People aren't bullies yet in early elementary!?!? I'm haole and was bullied constantly at Laie elementary, it was brutal (1990-1996) Kahuku wasn't nearly as bad as elementary for me. Now that I'm an adult I never get bothered for being a haole.
My kids (adults now) are half Kuwaiti. In Kuwait, everyone asked what they were! They are adults now. I believe asking what someone's ethnicity is, is a way of connecting & understanding where you are coming from in a cultural way. It can be illuminating and actually break through someone's stereotypes about ethnicity and what people assume that means. Celebrating our similarities and differences is what makes our world interesting. Love your video!! And FYI, I haven't heard anyone use the word code switching since I was at USC for grad school! My kids were absolute masters of the code switch!
Awesome visit!!! Would love to catch another one.
Pure gold here 👌🏽
Interesting interview....insightful. Thanks
So true about The Bus. You can learn a lot on The Bus.
Oh my God the Radford dig crack me up!! That is where I went to high school lol!😂😂
Cuz love the perspective and dinamics between the both of you🤙
Mahalo Kyle!
Uuuffff the part of not being local enough…I’ve been there. Born on Oahu, raised in Florida but bounced around a lot (army brat). Moved back my junior and senior year of high school, came back to the mainland for university. But every year I go back and the first couple of days home that feeling of am I local enough always surfaces. Though, with age and financial success it’s become less of an issue. Can’t wait to be back home in July for my niece’s grad party. 🤙🏽
Haleiwa!!! Best community and so much LOVE and Ohana! We all look out for each other and love all our kids!
Id love an encore🎉
Thank you ❤😊
I moved to Kauai at 23, in '88. Left in 2015, at 50. I went beyond ''kamaina'' to being ''hanai'' (adopted). But I still ''tread easy upon the land''. But one night, my ''uncles'' got into this litany of ''Japani had ruin Hawaii.'' "The Haoles had ruin Hawaii''. etc., etc. The year was about 2001. And I said, ''The batu (meth) had ruin Hawaii''. There was a tense moment, but truth is truth. Then, they all nodded their heads (some of them were on the ice), and we went back to talking about Moi holes. When I fled in 2015, (Westside Kauai), I couldn't even leave my slippers outside the door. They would wait until my tiny bedroom AC unit came on,- and siphon my gas. I had contributed a lot to the community and schools (I was a professional entertainer), and after 26 years, I'm STILL being ''street taxed?'' and I just decided to take my music, and hit the ''road''. But, for those who want to go, don't let this old guy, throw shade. Because, to this day, like Brahda Iz said, ''Still, you will find Hawaii''. But, to be clear, for ME to ''go back'' to Hawaii, no jet can cut it. I would need a time machine. ''Ua Mau Ke Ea....''
"When I was going to Campbell, I was also scared of ʻIlima kids" 😂😂😂
Loved this! Was haole army brat that grew up on Ft Shafter.
In joking with each other, we make fun of ourselves-not the other person.
Very interesting conversation gentleman. I'm an old Korean dude from nyc that's never been to hawaii but have learned a lot observing channels like yours and having known some Koreans that moved over to the mainland. I feel that whites that grew up in Hawaii are in a unique position to understand the Asian experience in the mainland. And that part has always interested me. I literally typed in haole and your video was at the top lol. It used to be that guy that would be yelling at the tourists having a picnic lol.
the "Other" Micheal Madson lololol
Great video !!!
My first day going to McKinley in Honolulu (mid-80's and I was 15), first break period I was outside and got surrounded by 10+ dudes..."What you f*g haole" "You looking for beef?" "You got beef with HP?" "Get tf off our island", etc. I'm standing there looking at all these kids wondering wtf their problem was and how did they get instilled with so much hatred and bigotry at such a young age. I didn't enjoy the prospect of getting jumped on the daily, so I bounced and joined up with the Lewers St. clan in Waikiki, a mixed bag of haole and locals. Unfortunately that just opened the door for me to get into a different kind of trouble. Luckily I was only into pakalolo, and dodged the Ice craze. Moved back to mainland a couple years later. I miss Hawaii though lol!
the 80s was a rough time
I think I saw you at Moose's. LOL
28:51 Damn Radford still catching Strays! lol
Great discussion. I grew up in rural Maine. Both parents born/raised from away (out of state) I could never be a local Mainer. Always looked at and treated as someone from a different place.
We are moving to Oahu next spring and when we go to Oahu to visit we always take the bus usually for half our trip. It's the best way to see the city and get down with the people that actually live in different neighborhoods. You can ride for over an hour and just see so many pockets. It's how we saw so much more of different neighborhoods and you can actually get everywhere.
Great attitude by both these guys. You can be ANY race and face hate here or anywhere else (I assume since I've only lived in Hawaii). As a kid growing up I still remember being told "Go home Jap" when I was walking on the street (I'm in my 50s) and asking my Mom what that meant...as I had no clue.
But those are the closed minded real minorities in Hawaii. Sure we poke fun of each others race but I think I can honestly say the vast majority of people I've ever dealt with are just good people.
Pride in FL but my 10 year old has been here in school in Hawaii since 2nd grade and he THRIVES here! We love our community and to US we are all family
New to the channel but really enjoying your content. I truly understand what you were saying about being different versions of yourself. I went to college on the mainland and did radio there. I had to learn how to make my pidgen English work for me and make it acceptable while I was on the radio by playing up the fact I was from Hawaii. Great episode!!
I moved to Oahu from Georgia a bit over a year ago. While I'm whiter than the driven snow, I feel quite at home here. I think there's a lot of similarities between Southern culture and Hawaiian culture in terms of respect and politeness. Maybe it's easier for me because I also lived in Korea as a civilian for 5 years so I have experience being a minority/guest. I dunno, I just don't notice it too much. I love Hawaiian people and their culture and wouldn't mind making this my long term home.
Southern hospitality and aloha are very similar 🤙🏽
Really appreciate this & your guest, Derek! I don't expect you to make a video on Hawaiian's experience on the mainland because this isn't what this channel is about so I'll just ask you in my comment: I'm hapa myself & lived in various areas of the U.S. mainland & internationally; I'm curious to know what the mainland experience was for you as a Hawaiian?
Ayyyyyeeee that's a Render 808 painting on that back wall! Meeeeaaannnnn
Just saw his stand up at bluenote. Hilarious!
He’s good at his craft yea!
My first week going to school in Hawaii, everyday at the bus stop, eh brah you like beef. You scrap and next week you best friends. Yes being haole in the 70's helped me to learn and adapt to other cultures. Best experience evah.
I remember there was a day in 1993 when all military bases told the service men not to go downtown because of a huge Hawaiian Sovereignty protest. There was serious fear that the locals would "kill haole" aka beat up white people. I also remember military guys were told not to go to Waianae or North shore at night in general lol. I was lucky being a Filipino guy from the mainland that I could blend in pretty easy especially if I didnt talk lol. So I went downtown on that day in 93 and saw Hawaiians screaming into a mic "We are not American"...I went North Shore and Waianae at night (with local friends) and had zero issues. I learned alot. I was probably a little young and stupid too though. Then again I had already seen kids killed right in front of me growing up in California in the 80's during crack and gangster rap. To me Hawaii was still paradise even with the risk and controversy.
Met this guy at Ann O Brian’s and Slack Key Lounge, he’s a natural!
Haole, ma ka ʻōlelo kanaka translates into English literally as a foreigner, Caucasian, or white person. Our language is very specific. It does not mean "without breath."
For educational purposes, the following link below is for those who aren't aware.
Lastly, especially if you're kānaka, you should be referring to it as Turtle Island or the u.s. continent, not the mainland. Your kulāiwi (homeland) is Hawaiʻi. And, Hawaiʻi is not a state. The Kingdom is still here. No one can move a Kingdom. It was the hawaiian government that was illegally overthrown, not the kingdom. So yeah, the truth is, the u.s. government has been operating in our Kingdom since January 17, 1893.
"There's no treaty that our Kingdom has been annexed."
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Kahalu’u elementary in 1971 thru 1973 I was a third grader but had to fight sixth graders and every Friday I would wear my yellow Datsun T-shirt but by the end of the year it turned blood red but at least i had Checkers and Pogo 🤙🏻
....would also like to add that I had tons of asian/hawaiian friends and family. My High School music teacher, Mr. Clarece Awaya, who practically help rear me from 5th grade through high school, was my 2nd father, as far as I was concerned! Miss him dearly.
Was very relieved that I, or my siblings were never subjected to that "kill the haole day" bs that was happening in a lot of schools. Unfortunately, caucasions are always gonna have to deal with some form of prejudice in Hawaii, just goes with the territory and traditions. My advice is, if youre planning a vacation there and you dont know any local people, travel in groups or tours! The same applies anywhere, nowadays. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
It’s good for our kids to know that there’s a big wide world out there and there’s more to life than Hawaii and Las Vegas.
I would agree. Strengthen Hawaii through more well rounded local kids who may travel, but bring all of that world experience home for well even if just for reference (not implementation)
Time to migrate back to the islandz! Good seeing locals living in the mainland going back to the HI
Aloha! I watch all your videos - extra grateful for this one. Being Haole, who is planning a move to Oahu soon, being accepted does make me nervous. I have a deep respect for the culture and am doing my best to learn everything I can (including some language and read Hawaii’s Story’) before arriving. That said, I’m a single female (40) all alone, who doesn’t have any Ohana there. Should I be concerned for my safety, etc.? Mahalo!
Be humble, be kind, join community and find that local aunty that will take you under her wing and you'll be fine.
No I wouldn’t worry much about it. Just chill and be kind :) and call us if you need to buy or sell 😂
i lived in pns for awhile also ... went to uni there. made really, really great friends there.
but pns does have the downside of racial tension for sure, i remember how hostile (from a notable number of white students, even if not all) the campus felt when obama became president in '09 ... scarily, at least a couple of 'protest nooses' went up, too, which were quickly taken down. as a born and raised puerto rican islander who didn't really understand USA racial tensions at the time, i was quite alarmed at that. honestly still am, thinking back. that was my first exposure to majority mainlander culture.
now, i'm in mtl, waiting on an offer letter for an amazing job in hawaii that i was pleasantly surprised by. if it's meant to be, it'll pan out. life is unpredictable. thank you for your hawaii content.
I’ve never lived on any of the islands but I visit when I can. I’ve never had any negative issue come from any islander.
Graduated Kapaa high 14’ been in couple scraps, but nothing mayjuh. Best experience of my life🤙🏼 mahalo ke akua
You guys need to talk to incoming mainland college students!!!! Seriously!
such amazing and Also nostalgic stories here in the comments. Much love too all! chee Huu. i wqs Born 85 Grew up in Chinatown and Makiki. im a 90s Kid. Grad 03 and i live Maui now. keep the Aloha Alive!
When I lived in Hawaii during my father's Naval service at Pearl Harbor I had to attend two schools the first was my 8th grade year at Aliamanu middle School and then I attended my 9th and 10th year at Radford Highschool...Attending these schools taught me a few things...First everyone got high on Paco Lolo and it didn't take long for this kid from New York to fall in love with this herb...Second the total chill of the locals and imported locals who embraced the chill when they moved to Hawaii...Now that being said on what was called "Kill Haole" day the day the Hawaiians killed Captain Cook and I was told they ate him afterward, but that was the story that was told to me...Now flash forward 200 years and you had the modern day version of hostilities in the form of hatred for all people of white skin, even your friends who were Hawaiian had to turn against you on this day...On this day we as white kids stayed home from school and let the day pass by us...The next day everything was chill again and chill we did smoking some great grass and enjoying all of the beauty the islands provided us...
Mahalo for sharing! You sure did have a taste of the island lifestyle lol
Sound like fake friends
I grew up in aiea and went to aiea high and was bullied every day so I know what you guys are talking about and also have family in ewa beach
Baldwin Bears Maui. Used to get beat up all the time. Had a blast, still live here. All my friends are gone now or dead.
Kapolei's first graduating class=2004
Ha'ole
"Without the breath of life"
You either have it, or you don't. It's in the heart. Kindness and respect. Kina'ole.
So sorry you guys had to be treated like that. I went to a city school but lived in the country...
It’s integrity 100.
Great episode - a lot of what you spoke to was great advice for those moving into Oahu. My wife and I have lived in ocean point for over 10 yrs.
We will hit you guys up soon to network. We are also going to be purchasing in the Kahala or Diamond Head area - based off what my wife likes.
Aloha 🤙🏽
i love hawaii
Eh I seen this guy at comedy before. I went kaiser graduated 2012 totally enjoying the conversation 🤙🏼
I live on the NS of Oahu. My Hawaiian family said don’t ever change you to fit in. I’m a little southern bell! Hawaiian said it’s more disrespectful to try to speak pigeon or the accent. I just keep my accent! I’m more respected just being ME
49:07 Well said 49:15 ❤
Being respectful, PARTICULARLY to the matriarch of a family, will get you far. Open your ears, close your mouth, don’t act like you know everything, and you will be fine.
"Portagee" actually isn't originally a pidgin term. It comes from the east coast of the states but it's used-ofren derogatorily- in almost all English speaking countries.
My co worker Bo he works in Jeffersonvill Indiana. He moved out there 1980 He grew up with Mexicano and blacks, they saved me. He goes straight home after work, I don’t stay out. Reality. Downey California ❤❤❤
Where's Michaels links for Comedy ? 9th Island local in Oahu here. My take is be coolz and peeps coolz back, no matter where ya go 🤙Rad energy and love always works 💛
For me, it was more about acceptance of culture. When I moved, I was walking in the high school at that time and being a military kid just wasn’t an ideal situation. For me, I got involved in sports and connected with culture and to this day that’s my home. ALL my friends are local. I don’t take offense when called haole . I’ll make it a point to make friends with everyone. #Kalaheo #KailuaGirl
Ride the bus, learn the history(context), and explore(safely). Yeah!
I've vacationed in Hawaii before and it's one of the most beautiful places that I've ever been to and would love to take my wife there one day. Even though I'm a Haole from the East Coast, I embraced and respected the culture as well as treat the locals with the utmost respect and manners and I got along great with the locals while I was there.
That's what it's all about! Glad to hear you had a positive experince in the islands.
Everyone is nice in the resort and restaurant when you’re spreading the cheese around. Different story when life gets down to the day to day there and you need to put kids in school.
Derek, you must be talking about the Beulah area of Pensacola. I grew up in Cantonment. NW Florida is a strange place.
Holy crap I know that guy.
I was a haole growing up in Ewa. I went to Ilima and I was supposed to go to Campbell but we moved Cali. I had a full pidgin accent and still got shoulder checks in the halls and girls wanting to fight me. My friends would find out and have to be like “no she from hea” and then it’d be fine😂 The school in California I was supposed to go to was in Oxnard was known for having gangs and signs all around saying “guns are prohibited” and a daycare at the front of the school so that kids had a place to drop their kids 😂 I was upset that my parents weren’t going to let me go to that school because it felt more like “home” 🤣🤣 yikes.
Great subject. My family and I lived on Oahu from April 2013 through December 2016. We are a military family, my wife and I worked out of Joint Base Pearl Harbor Hickam. We are contemplating moving back and I am curious to know what the current culture in Ewa is, regarding middle and high school. I am Hispanic and my wife is White, (Anglo-Irish/Scot). I am a little concerned for my son. I did not have any negative experience previously, but my wife had a few, fewer than any other mainland location we have lived in. Curious to know what you think about Ilima Intermediate School, Ewa Makai Middle School and James Campbell High School are currently. PS, I might need your help finding a house.
I had a friend who was born and raised on the main island. I went to Hawaii for a month with her, her boyfriend, and my girlfriend. All her friends were super cool to me. But once we started drinking the male friends were really talking shit to her boyfriend, but my Scandinavian pail ass they had no problem with. The only time I was messed with I was jumping off the cliff at Waimea Bay. I was about to jump then a local guy my age said "a real man jumps from here" which was a good three feet from the cliff. So my pride got the better of me and I said, "cool I'm gonna go from here." then jumped from four feet away. I damn near skidded down into the water, but I proved my manhood to a total stranger. lol
Thanks for the comment
Your videos are amazing. I really like it. I am a new subscriber to your channel. Can I talk with you Hawaii?
Campbell was a rough school, and Farrington was rough too…. Back in the day. I also think it comes down to generation.
I’m starting to consider the possibility of comedy being a cultural practice lol
When I first came here it was a fairly dangerous place to be white. It was over 20 years ago, deep in the jungle in Puna on the Big Island. It was the first time in my life where I experienced what it was like to be a minority. There was places I was told not to go unless invited. I was told a lot of other survival tips you may call them. It wasn't all bad though. For every asshole, there was plenty more good people. I still love going there. It's so beautiful and the people are so kind and generous.
I love how in Hawaii haole get just a taste of what minorities are treated like daily on the mainland when they’re no longer the majority and loses their minds. I think everyone needs to experience not being the majority to be humbled and contrast their privileges
Anyone would lose their mind if they were being treated like this, this isn’t humbling.
Are you saying they deserve it?
@@jeremims9044 No, no one deserves discrimination. But to give perspective, I never experienced racism until I moved to the states. I was comfortable being the majority. We advocated for equality but only on the surface. It’s hard to achieve true empathy to really change this until you experience the reality. I didn’t understand my privilege until I was taken away from it and I feel this is the same case for many.
As someone born and raised in Hawaii, now living on the mainland I strongly disagree. I was taught to respect everybody regardless of race. Growing up, race was never even a concept to me. I mean sure we all embraced and discussed our differences and cultural backgrounds. And admittedly we all made fun of the Micronesians which was wrong in retrospect. But still, the concept of race didn't really stick out to me. People are people.
When I moved to the mainland I was shocked at how much race was a topic among people. I'm shaking my head to this day that in the 21st century people can't get over this superficial concept of race and the imaginary perceived privilege and disadvantages that come with it.
I live in a predominately white area now. And lemme tell you, nobody treats me differently for being a 'minority' because to them people are people. I work a good job, have shown willingness to learn things and show up everyday. So that's my experience not being the majority. And being a minority is not holding me back from anything. I'm treated fairly well actually.
The anti white attitudes in Hawaii that are becoming normalized everywhere needs to stop. This is the very racism and discrimination that the leftists are supposedly fighting against but are at the same time perpetrating.
If you fail in life that's on you, not because of some imaginary racial privilege that somebody else supposedly has.
People need to stop blaming race for their failures and instead look at themselves.
Nobody has some racial privilege over somebody else. You put in the work, you're gonna succeed regardless of your skin color. I don't know about you, but that's how I was raised. My parents NEVER told me that I would be at a disadvantage because of my race.
@@yuushamenma2130 I'll also add that no longer being the majority does give you a perspective though. When I first moved to the mainland I felt lonely and isolated because of the fact that I was now the minority.
In my mind I'm thinking: if this is how I feel, imagine how a haole must feel when they move to Hawaii.
But again, I quickly learned that they didn't see color. To them people are people. Which is the way everybody should really be looking at it.
I agree with your statement about true empathy. When you're no longer the majority, and you feel what somebody else feels. It gives you a broader perspective of things which is why I think the anti white attitudes in Hawaii are wrong.
Da word Ha’ole is derived from two words put together..
Ha means breathe,air I breathe
Ole is a form of No or not.
Put it together and it’s No Breathe! Now that means ANYONE NOT OF HAWAIIAN OR MIXED (Hapa).
That’s means everyone without Hawaiian is Haole! Black,Filipino,Tongan,Canadian,Samoan,American etc..
We researched it and I think this is actually a misconception. The first documented use of haole we could find uses the word as “estranged”. The pig god Kamāpua`a was referred to as “haole”.
@@movingtohawaii the God of Agriculture KamaPua’a not “pig God” although legends has it everyone see’s is a 8 eyed pig, I’m thinking Ha’Ole might have been used toward Him since He’s a pig and probably didn’t talk?
@@movingtohawaii I assure You Ha’ole does not mean estranged although it could have been taken out of context to fit English literature.
@@kanakamokunui1039 many kupuna, kumu, and scholars have deemed the anti-breath thing to be a misconception. Idk though. I’m none of those qualified titles 🤷♂️ Much aloha 🤙🏽
@@movingtohawaii this is just knowledge past down to every Kanaka over time. When We great someone,We share breathe and put Our foreheads together and smell each other’s Mana! English settlers to visitors only shook hands and never shared breathe or air. I’m blessed I’m half kanaka from both parents who’s line runs through Lindsey/Kamehameha. Much Aloha Kanaka!